1 Second After The Rapture

[Work4Peanuts]

We know the world will change dramatically after the rapture. What about just before the rapture. Before we hear the call to come up there, will there be any kind of warning its coming? I have read arguments for yes and no on this, but scripture does not indicate any warnings, or feelings we have inside we are about to go Home. But if there is a “2 minute warning” what would you do for those moments?

Two minutes? Honestly, I'd stand in one place and stare at the sky, much like the apostles were doing when Jesus left, until He sent an angel down to break it up. I don't imagine that's what God would want me to do.

I think that whole point of a "twinkling of an eye" is that it is going to be sudden. Quick, and without warning (except for the warnings that have been given over and over...) then sudden destruction will come upon the world.

 

[Andy C]

Two minutes? Honestly, I'd stand in one place and stare at the sky, much like the apostles were doing when Jesus left, until He sent an angel down to break it up. I don't imagine that's what God would want me to do.

I think that whole point of a "twinkling of an eye" is that it is going to be sudden. Quick, and without warning (except for the warnings that have been given over and over...) then sudden destruction will come upon the world.

Agree, over in the twinkling of an eye. Too bad Daygo has not yet found this forum as he would definitely post on believing there is a forewarning.

 

[Ghoti Ichthus]

We know the world will change dramatically after the rapture. What about just before the rapture. Before we hear the call to come up there, will there be any kind of warning its coming? I have read arguments for yes and no on this, but scripture does not indicate any warnings, or feelings we have inside we are about to go Home. But if there is a “2 minute warning” what would you do for those moments?

I'd like to think I'd shout The Gospel and a warning about what was about to happen at the top of my lungs so anyone within earshot could hear, and hopefully believe before it were too late. Bonus: Jesus would find me about His work when the Rapture occurred.

In reality, I'd likely gloat and taunt my enemies, which is definitely not what Jesus would want.

However, the Bible says in the twinkling of an eye, and no man knows the day or hour, etc., so I really don't think there will be any warning, unless there's noise, and perhaps an earthquake or other disturbance, when the graves of the dead in Christ are opened. I don't think any of us would realize what it was unless were happened to be in a cemetery, though, and by that time the dead in Christ would be leading the way with us right behind.



Dear God, please hurry up!




52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.
1 Corinthians 15:52

36 But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only.
37 But as the days of Noah were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
38 For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark,
39 And knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
40 Then shall two be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left.
41 Two women shall be grinding at the mill; the one shall be taken, and the other left.
42 Watch therefore: for ye know not what hour your Lord doth come.
43 But know this, that if the goodman of the house had known in what watch the thief would come, he would have watched, and would not have suffered his house to be broken up.
44 Therefore be ye also ready: for in such an hour as ye think not the Son of man cometh.
Matthew 24:36-44, KJV

 

[Andy C]

I'd like to think I'd shout The Gospel and a warning about what was about to happen at the top of my lungs so anyone within earshot could hear, and hopefully believe before it were too late. Bonus: Jesus would find me about His work when the Rapture occurred.

In reality, I'd likely gloat and taunt my enemies, which is definitely not what Jesus would want.

However, the Bible says in the twinkling of an eye, and no man knows the day or hour, etc., so I really don't think there will be any warning, unless there's noise, and perhaps an earthquake or other disturbance, when the graves of the dead in Christ are opened. I don't think any of us would realize what it was unless were happened to be in a cemetery, though, and by that time the dead in Christ would be leading the way with us right behind.



Dear God, please hurry up!




52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.
1 Corinthians 15:52

36 But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only.
37 But as the days of Noah were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
38 For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark,
39 And knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
40 Then shall two be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left.
41 Two women shall be grinding at the mill; the one shall be taken, and the other left.
42 Watch therefore: for ye know not what hour your Lord doth come.
43 But know this, that if the goodman of the house had known in what watch the thief would come, he would have watched, and would not have suffered his house to be broken up.
44 Therefore be ye also ready: for in such an hour as ye think not the Son of man cometh.
Matthew 24:36-44, KJV

I agree, no warning, and Im not convinced the graves will open, but the decayed bodies, or nothing but ashes left, will be transformed into a glorified body on the way up.

 

[Ghoti Ichthus]

I think it'll be cool if we get to see bodies come back together

Don't know if we'll get to see the whole of Israel resurrected and bodies put back together (Ezekiel 37), but I think that would be so cool to see and hear. Bet that will make some awesome noise. Although we might be busy in Heaven at the time.

1 The hand of the Lord was upon me, and carried me out in the spirit of the Lord, and set me down in the midst of the valley which was full of bones,
2 And caused me to pass by them round about: and, behold, there were very many in the open valley; and, lo, they were very dry.
3 And he said unto me, Son of man, can these bones live? And I answered, O Lord God, thou knowest.
4 Again he said unto me, Prophesy upon these bones, and say unto them, O ye dry bones, hear the word of the Lord.
5 Thus saith the Lord God unto these bones; Behold, I will cause breath to enter into you, and ye shall live:
6 And I will lay sinews upon you, and will bring up flesh upon you, and cover you with skin, and put breath in you, and ye shall live; and ye shall know that I am the Lord.
7 So I prophesied as I was commanded: and as I prophesied, there was a noise, and behold a shaking, and the bones came together, bone to his bone.
8 And when I beheld, lo, the sinews and the flesh came up upon them, and the skin covered them above: but there was no breath in them.
9 Then said he unto me, Prophesy unto the wind, prophesy, son of man, and say to the wind, Thus saith the Lord God; Come from the four winds, O breath, and breathe upon these slain, that they may live.
10 So I prophesied as he commanded me, and the breath came into them, and they lived, and stood up upon their feet, an exceeding great army.
11 Then he said unto me, Son of man, these bones are the whole house of Israel: behold, they say, Our bones are dried, and our hope is lost: we are cut off for our parts.
12 Therefore prophesy and say unto them, Thus saith the Lord God; Behold, O my people, I will open your graves, and cause you to come up out of your graves, and bring you into the land of Israel.
13 And ye shall know that I am the Lord, when I have opened your graves, O my people, and brought you up out of your graves,
14 And shall put my spirit in you, and ye shall live, and I shall place you in your own land: then shall ye know that I the Lord have spoken it, and performed it, saith the Lord.
15 The word of the Lord came again unto me, saying,
16 Moreover, thou son of man, take thee one stick, and write upon it, For Judah, and for the children of Israel his companions: then take another stick, and write upon it, For Joseph, the stick of Ephraim and for all the house of Israel his companions:
17 And join them one to another into one stick; and they shall become one in thine hand.
18 And when the children of thy people shall speak unto thee, saying, Wilt thou not shew us what thou meanest by these?
19 Say unto them, Thus saith the Lord God; Behold, I will take the stick of Joseph, which is in the hand of Ephraim, and the tribes of Israel his fellows, and will put them with him, even with the stick of Judah, and make them one stick, and they shall be one in mine hand.
20 And the sticks whereon thou writest shall be in thine hand before their eyes.
21 And say unto them, Thus saith the Lord God; Behold, I will take the children of Israel from among the heathen, whither they be gone, and will gather them on every side, and bring them into their own land:
22 And I will make them one nation in the land upon the mountains of Israel; and one king shall be king to them all: and they shall be no more two nations, neither shall they be divided into two kingdoms any more at all.
23 Neither shall they defile themselves any more with their idols, nor with their detestable things, nor with any of their transgressions: but I will save them out of all their dwellingplaces, wherein they have sinned, and will cleanse them: so shall they be my people, and I will be their God.
24 And David my servant shall be king over them; and they all shall have one shepherd: they shall also walk in my judgments, and observe my statutes, and do them.
25 And they shall dwell in the land that I have given unto Jacob my servant, wherein your fathers have dwelt; and they shall dwell therein, even they, and their children, and their children's children for ever: and my servant David shall be their prince for ever.
26 Moreover I will make a covenant of peace with them; it shall be an everlasting covenant with them: and I will place them, and multiply them, and will set my sanctuary in the midst of them for evermore.
27 My tabernacle also shall be with them: yea, I will be their God, and they shall be my people.
28 And the heathen shall know that I the Lord do sanctify Israel, when my sanctuary shall be in the midst of them for evermore.
Ezekiel 37, KJV

 

[Andy C]

I think it'll be cool if we get to see bodies come back together

Yes, that would be.

Since the bible does not mention how bodies leave the grave at the rapture, all we can do is speculate. I think if all the dead in Christ graves were to burst open at the rapture, that would be a huge visual clue for those left behind as to what happened.

I also believe the bodies leaving the graves will be the same as those of us still alive at the time of the rapture. One nano second here, the next, gone, same for those in the graves.

 

[Ghoti Ichthus]

I think if all the dead in Christ graves were to burst open at the rapture, that would be a huge visual clue for those left behind as to what happened.

Especially if someone were to be standing on such a grave at the time (and fell in the now open, vacant grave)
I'm a big fan of huge, obvious, blatant visual clues. I can really be dense at times

Maybe some of these graves will contain well packaged Bibles with key verses and passages marked and bookmarked . . . maybe a note or letter to the left-behind finder . . .

 

[Ghoti Ichthus]

Just had an ugly thought. If all those graves are open and uncovered at the Rapture, wonder how many bacteria and viruses may have survived the years and are now exposed to the air and free to escape. Or brought out by people taking items that were buried with people (stuffed animals, etc.). Or attach themselves to people, birds, or animals investigating the open graves, and get carried away and spread.

Wonder if this will be at least part of the source(s) of the pestilences during the Tribulation. Smallpox is currently eradicated, but it could make a come-back since relatively few are still alive, who have been vaccinated. Other diseases like polio, scarlet fever, plague, cholera, ebola, dengue fever, yellow fever, rabies, etc., etc., etc.

Bet TPTB will be quick to point a finger at this and use it to blame the Christians.

 

[spartan sprinter]

Why is is that people associate the verse about peace and security being about the rapture and what is people's reasoning for it ?

I thought this verse was applying to Israel when they thought that they finally had peace through the covenant of death with the Antichrist, then the sudden destruction would fall on them ?

 

[Work4Peanuts]

Why is is that people associate the verse about peace and security being about the rapture and what is people's reasoning for it ?

I thought this verse was applying to Israel when they thought that they finally had peace through the covenant of death with the Antichrist, then the sudden destruction would fall on them ?

Well, personally, I think of the rapture like Noah and the ark or Lot and Sodom. When both of those men and their families left, that was when the wrath broke loose. So, people on earth are going about their business, then rapture, then BAM! Destruction starts.

But I also don't think the devil is going to waste time once he sees that the rapture has happened and the Restrainer has removed Himself. It'll be go time, with not a moment to lose. So I don't see much of a gap between the rapture and the signing of the covenant. I'm one of the people who believes that the devil has an antiChrist candidate waiting in the wings in every generation, because he doesn't know the day or hour either.

 

[Andy C]

I'm one of the people who believes that the devil has an antiChrist candidate waiting in the wings in every generation, because he doesn't know the day or hour either.

So do I. However, just because satan has a man groomed for when its time, it still could take a good amount of time to get him to rise in power. But, who really knows?

 

[Andy C]

How about for the believers one second after the rapture? Although the bible is not clear on this, most biblical scholars place the BEMA seat judgement immediately after the rapture. Thankfully, we are not judged here for our sins, or salvation. I like what Andy Woods calls it “a performance appraisal” on how we did in our walk with Him.

2 Corinthians 5
10 For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ, that each one may receive the things done in the body, according to what he has done, whether good or bad. 11 Knowing, therefore, the terror of the Lord, we persuade men; but we are well known to God, and I also trust are well known in your consciences.

Me personally, I cant wait for this to happen.

 

[Ghoti Ichthus]

I'll get an F at Bema, but so long as I'm in Heaven . . .

 

[Andy C]

I'll get an F at Bema, but so long as I'm in Heaven . . .

No sister, you will get much higher than that!

 

[Ghoti Ichthus]

No sister, you will get much higher than that!

Nah . . . I came to saving faith at 3 and and had so many wasted opportunities and wasted advantages and have no excuse for not doing a lot better/more. I deserve far lower than an F. Maybe a Z- - - Fortunately, works (or lack of them or how sinful or how pitiful or how wrongfully motivated) don't affect Salvation

 

[Andy C]

Nah . . . I came to saving faith at 3 and and had so many wasted opportunities and wasted advantages and have no excuse for not doing a lot better/more. I deserve far lower than an F. Maybe a Z- - - Fortunately, works (or lack of them or how sinful or how pitiful or how wrongfully motivated) don't affect Salvation

Read the thread I posted about crowns earned!

 

[spartan sprinter]

How about for the believers one second after the rapture? Although the bible is not clear on this, most biblical scholars place the BEMA seat judgement immediately after the rapture. Thankfully, we are not judged here for our sins, or salvation. I like what Andy Woods calls it “a performance appraisal” on how we did in our walk with Him.

2 Corinthians 5
10 For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ, that each one may receive the things done in the body, according to what he has done, whether good or bad. 11 Knowing, therefore, the terror of the Lord, we persuade men; but we are well known to God, and I also trust are well known in your consciences.

Me personally, I cant wait for this to happen.

I'm a bit on the fence, I'm sort of cringeing on what's is going to get burned up LOL

 

[Goodboy]

Nah . . . I came to saving faith at 3 and and had so many wasted opportunities and wasted advantages and have no excuse for not doing a lot better/more. I deserve far lower than an F. Maybe a Z- - - Fortunately, works (or lack of them or how sinful or how pitiful or how wrongfully motivated) don't affect Salvation

While I totally agree that getting to Heaven for eternity is much more than we deserve, don't cut yourself short. After Jesus, Paul is my main man!!! However, look at what he did before the road to Damascus. I know, I know he was not saved at the time, but that is not my point. Look at all the rewards Paul will receive for how his life ended!

It is not so much about how you start, but more about how you finish! Many a Christian does just the opposite of what you claim. They start out all excited and focus on following Jesus, but later the world system deceives and/or distracts them and they fall away.

I can testify that it is easier to be all in when you are young and recently saved. It is much harder as you try and make it through Satan's system seeing those who disobey God doing so well. You ever notice how Narcissists (evil people) seem to do so well? That is because they fit well into Satan's system. You have lived in Satan's system and may have been deceived and/or distracted for a season, but look at you now!!!

While your humility says you don't deserve any rewards, God will give you them anyway!!!

 

[Ghoti Ichthus]

I'm a bit on the fence, I'm sort of cringeing on what's is going to get burned up LOL

The more of what I did/do/will do that gets burned up, the better. Less for anyone/everyone to see, especially Jesus (although He saw/sees it all in real time).

6 If we say that we have fellowship with him, and walk in darkness, we lie, and do not the truth:
7 But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin.
8 If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.
9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
10 If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us.
1 John 1: 6-10, KJV

 

[Andy C]

The more of what I did/do/will do that gets burned up, the better. Less for anyone/everyone to see, especially Jesus (although He

I believe at the BEMA, most people will be surprised at the rewards they received. Some of the actions in our life we think were good, may not be seen in the same way through His eyes. On the flip side, some of the actions in our life we may not even remember doing, will be seen in a very positive Light in His eyes. Motive is everything, and who, or for what reason were we doing them for.