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Millennial Day Theory
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Could you share the theory for those of us who have never heard of it?
Amethyst
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It’s that scripture teaches there are 6 days (millennials) and the seventh is a millennial is a rest (1000 year millennial kingdom)
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Seven day theory or seven thousand years from creation theory
The seven day or millennial week theory is that there are 7000 years from Adam until the eternal kingdom
www.thepropheticyears.com
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Millennial Day Theory - Wikipedia
Spartan Sprinter
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Yeah i think i heard this theory except each day represented a 1000 years with the 7th day being the millenial kingdomIt’s that scripture teaches there are 6 days (millennials) and the seventh is a millennial is a rest (1000 year millennial kingdom)
Seven day theory or seven thousand years from creation theory
The seven day or millennial week theory is that there are 7000 years from Adam until the eternal kingdomwww.thepropheticyears.com
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Millennial Day Theory - Wikipedia
That is quite possible. I've heard the theory, thought about it (but not in tremendous depth), and have thought it makes sense.
But how will we know whether it is correct? The Bible may hint at it, but I do not believe Scripture speaks of it specifically. In fact, as with much prophecy in the Bible, we only know for sure after the prophesied event or circumstance occurs. God actually tells us in scripture that prophecy exists so that we may know that he is God when the foretold event takes place. That's the reason He gives it to us, and not so that we may try to fit the pieces together ahead of time. Re-read Isaiah 41:21-22,26; 43:9; 44:6-7; 45:21; 46:8-10; 48:3-7 and You will see God repeatedly say that only He can foretell the future and He does it to demonstrate who He is.
In other scriptures I have found evidence that God gives some prophecy so that His people may prepare themselves ahead of time and know what to do. The prophecies he gave the people of Israel through Jeremiah are one example of this kind.
However, nowhere in any passages of Scripture do I recall God telling His listeners that He gives prophecy so they may know what is going to happen. No, He says He gives prophecy so that when it happens we will know that no one could have known it ahead of time except Him alone ... demonstrating that He alone is God.
Just something I always try to keep in mind when discussing prophecy.
But how will we know whether it is correct? The Bible may hint at it, but I do not believe Scripture speaks of it specifically. In fact, as with much prophecy in the Bible, we only know for sure after the prophesied event or circumstance occurs. God actually tells us in scripture that prophecy exists so that we may know that he is God when the foretold event takes place. That's the reason He gives it to us, and not so that we may try to fit the pieces together ahead of time. Re-read Isaiah 41:21-22,26; 43:9; 44:6-7; 45:21; 46:8-10; 48:3-7 and You will see God repeatedly say that only He can foretell the future and He does it to demonstrate who He is.
In other scriptures I have found evidence that God gives some prophecy so that His people may prepare themselves ahead of time and know what to do. The prophecies he gave the people of Israel through Jeremiah are one example of this kind.
However, nowhere in any passages of Scripture do I recall God telling His listeners that He gives prophecy so they may know what is going to happen. No, He says He gives prophecy so that when it happens we will know that no one could have known it ahead of time except Him alone ... demonstrating that He alone is God.
Just something I always try to keep in mind when discussing prophecy.
Anastacia
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Hosea 6:2 is supposed to be a big "hint" at this theory.
To me, this theory seems like a timeline for human history. And God is so precise and foreshadows so much, that I wouldnt be surprised if He used the creation week to foreshadow history!
Definitely have to believe in a young earth to even consider this. And I definitely believe in a young earth/human history!
@Amethyst thanks for posting this topic; it's very interesting!
To me, this theory seems like a timeline for human history. And God is so precise and foreshadows so much, that I wouldnt be surprised if He used the creation week to foreshadow history!
Definitely have to believe in a young earth to even consider this. And I definitely believe in a young earth/human history!
@Amethyst thanks for posting this topic; it's very interesting!
Based on an estimated (imperfect) timeline we're either very close to or just within the 7th year or 7th 1000 years. Given the signs of the times I would have to say the theory is at least plausible.
Greg
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Well, we've got about 2000 years from Adam to Abraham, 2000 years from Abraham to Jesus, and just shy of 2000 years from Calvary to now, with a literal thousand year Millennial reign on deck any day plus about seven years from now. Without knowing the exact date markers, I'd say the theory looks plausible and probably likely. If we're here much longer, though,I think there will be a great silence on Earth as people adjust their prophecy timelines.
Amethyst
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Applying that thought to this theory, then wouldnt that nullify it altogether? Because the theory itself says 'it looks like this is what will happen', if only God knows. Or am I misinterpreting what you're saying?
Agree. This theory has been around for a long time. However, when noted biblical scholars disagree on the time between Adam, and Jesus, its then questionable about the dating.
I dont know of any scripture that leads one to believe that because God created the Earth in 6 days, then rested on the 7th, is equal to the time from Adam until the MK.
I've always been fond of the 7-day / 7000-year theory. If it doesn't happen with exactness (to the 6000th day for the trib end) then that would seem to be an erroneous theory.........but doesn't it seem awful close when looking at Adam/Eve to now? I guess I like it for the simple fact that it's been around 6000 years so the theory does get some traction within Christendom.
I don't think the fact that we cannot know something (unless God specifically states it) ahead of time necessarily means that the idea of Him having laid things out on a seven "day" pattern is incorrect. It just means we cannot know it for sure...until it happens. The fact is there are some clues in scripture that could lead us to the millennial day theory as a valid one; God, after all, seems to use patterns. Some of them are extremely specific, such as every aspect of the Tabernacle and its service and sacrifices accurately portraying every aspect of the life and ministry of Jesus Christ and the pattern of salvation. Everything I have learned from scripture shows me that all God has done in the past has relevance to today. So the millennial day theory is certainly possible...and, I venture to add, may indeed be true. But at this point in history we cannot know for sure. I rather like the theory because thinking it is correct in our hearts means we believe (as TT said in his post above) that we're either in or on the verge of the seventh day and therefore our homegoing is imminent and, as a result, we're working harder to serve Christ by sharing the gospel because the time is so short.
RonJohnSilver
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This theory makes sense to me in general but one problem that I've seen is that there is little, if any, agreement on the dates or time lines. Calendars differ, event occurrences are either uncertain or calculated different ways, there are just so many variables in determining exact times/dates that I don't think we could ever correctly 'know' the date even if there was no Biblical prohibition. The Hosea passage seems to indicate that we're getting close to that 1,000 Millennium marker, but we knew that anyway. So, I think this theory, even if valid, puts us no closer to knowing the 'timing' of the end that what we already knew from just reading the Bible.
Margery
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1: I think there is something to the theory, it seems to fit the facts and the flow of history. It was something that the early church fathers taught which may or may not mean it's for sure but it does look like it holds water.
2: Like you, I think that the reason God allowed us to be so fuzzy on dates at this end of history prevents us from falling headfirst into the swamp of date setting. If we were to try to use the date of the Cross, we have good arguments for 30 AD, thr 33 AD which is a 4 year time frame end to end so anything we calculate even from the Cross is plus or minus 4 years.
Something to consider - If we agree Satan knew all the dates of history - he lived thru them and he certainly remembers the Cross -- then IF this theory was correct, he could reasonably set his timer for Tribulation prep work in the appropriate time frame. And we should see a lot of frantic prep work done on the world stage surrounding the time frame leading up to the 2000 year anniversary of Jesus' Resurrection.
That raises interesting questions with the insistence on the year 2025 and 2030 for a lot of UN stuff. Because we do see that.
However Satan is fallible, and his understanding is NOT equal to God's so looking at his activity isn't a good indicator but it does indicate a general time frame.
Ever since 1948 his activity has been increasing (wars, UFO phenomena, breakdown of morality, porn, drugs, abortion, surge in LGBTQ etc, muslim terrorism, globalist agendas, economic agendas, hatred for Israel, decreasing border security and mass migrations)
So he may not be sure of that theory any more than we are, and he's been extra busy since 1948 when Israel came back to life. (what a nightmare that would be for him, second only to Jesus resurrecting)
Margery
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I agree. We won't know for sure. We can't know for sure. But it spurs us on to evangelism. That final push to get the last church age believer saved.
Amethyst
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This is a good point, just dwelling on it again.
Amethyst
† He hath shed his own blood for my soul
@Margery (or anyone) I figure you may have watched this video last year. If so, in your opinion do you think there was way too much speculation here?
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Greg
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I watched it then (or most of it), but don't remember much more than the overall point. That said, I don't think way too much. I think they probably said if our thinking is correct, it has to be one of these four years. If not, then God has something else in mind. If that's accurate, I don't see anything wrong with it. Setting individual dates... that would be way too much. But a general timeframe based on an understanding of scripture -- no problem.
Greg
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I should also add that Pete has generally done an excellent job of being speculative enough to get you to think and consider the urgency and gravity of where we're probably at on the timeline of this age while not stepping outside a reasonable interpretation of what scripture has to say and not setting absolute dates or anything like that.
Anastacia
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I watched it when it first came out and I thought it was a good discussion. There are mathematician type people who try to figure out the year of the crucifixion/resurrection and it seems many think it was either 31 or 33AD.@Margery (or anyone) I figure you may have watched this video last year. If so, in your opinion do you think there was way too much speculation here?
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Randy Nettles is one of those numbers guys. And Sir Robert Anderson was a guy from way back who tried to figure out the year in order to date Nehemiah 2 and Zech 9:9. So from that starting point, at least the idea is based on a lot of history and math! I dont recall any over-the-top speculation but I'm just careful not to fix my hopes on any specific time frame.
Tyler of Generation2434 also discusses this idea and he adds in the book of Ruth, harvest season, "the wine and the bread" and the 9th of Av to figure the timing of the rapture. I can see the prophetic parallels in Ruth but using the harvest season, "wine and the bread", and 9th of Av-- that's a bit too speculative for me to be comfortable with.
If we try to pin it down then we end up thinking Jesus can only come in a certain season, in this or that year, etc ...and then that feels like it steals my hope for every day, any day, any year.
But I do think we're likely down to the last few minutes or months or years of human history and it'd be pretty awesome if He did pattern history after the creation week!
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