Who Is Your Favorite End Times Teacher/Pastor?

[TCC]

The most recent Andy Woods prophecy update from 11/14 is really good!

Lots of discussion about current news tie ins with scripture. Even regarding Trump cabinet appointments.

Hi GLC11. Yeah i just checked that out. The way i kind of observe the trends is somewhat from an not so popular position (or rather a completely no-supported position...lol). So i love hearing Anday Woods and Tom Hughes updates because i believe they are the two most open to consider wild cards. My eschatological view is predicated on a wild card in comparison to the status quo. So i like the fact that Woods says that even though he understands Trump to slow down globalism (which likely eventually becomes 10 king confederacy), Trump still seems to keep the EZ 38 motif well alive (or through aggravation over him, God permits it to be alive).

I share 1/2 of Woods tribulation opening act view. I agree with Andy W that Ez 38 is seal 2. But I don't agree with his view on seal 1. Which is the status quo view of antichrist. Interesting to note that what Andy means by Trump keeping Ez 38 alive = that Iran is still hot in the mix. But lets think about what this is saying. We are saying that the more activity we see in the middle east, the closer we are to Ez 38? I believe this is the exact wrong filter though (in gentle deference). But appreciate Andy wholeheartedly.

The reason i see a different filter is because Ez 38 occurs when Israel is at peace. I believe the 1 Thes Peace and Security is about Israel not the world. And super highlights Ez 38 on the brink in 1 Thes 5. So, I believe Iran has to be humbled. Has to be pushed way back. In order for middle east peace to thrive. And i believe we will likely see that Lord willing. If this calculation is accurate, Andy might feel that Ez 38 potential just ran away from us....or went into some undiscoverable hibernation mode. But that is what i believe we are looking for. We are looking for a time when it doesn't look aggressive to know the clam in the eye of hurricane is THE condition of the Ez 38.

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Well i am just sharing this along the way. And really appreciate the reminder to check out Andy. As I mentioned my other favorite is Tom Hughes. Tom did an assessment recently too where Tom is actually THE first pastor to articulate two major features of the view i hold. I have never heard this from any pastor of theologian prior. And i would notice because my view is almost counterintuitive to the way we are looking at end times taking shape (for instance i believe globalism does not just get slowed down but gets punched right in the face...lol). I guess we will see. I totally could be mistaken. But whether so or not...we are kind of at that place and time i reckon to see. Wow...what a time to be alive. Almost surreal...isn't it? lol.

So what Tom said that was so linking to my favored perspective is this:

1. Peace and safety is related to Israel
2. Peace and safety is related to Ez 38

On that second point what i mean a little broader is that Tom sees the coming age we typically associate with the antichrist (a man who comes to solve the problems of the world when we need it most), a golden age of sorts, as related to the peace and security leading to Ez 38, having no reference of the antichrist. So yeah, that i have never heard before but is in line with my views. Andy would see it differently, but if there is anything to that view, it would make sense that more get on board as we go. If not, then yeah, no one should then, amen.

In some sense, as Tom Hughes would imply, is that i would extend Peace and Safety i guess to the whole world too, but primarily likely because and for Israel i believe. So the thing i think is kind of funny is that prophecy proper kind of might look upon the lines of a man of rescue to come with all the solutions, and be the antichrist. Instead we get Trump and MAGA...lol. Which i do believe has a high potential to overturn the globalists and establish a brief golden age that establishes Israel for Ez 38. I guess we will see. In my perspective i believe the church is here during seal 1 as a witness to Israel. And likely rapture on the cusp of seal 2. And the tribulation staring on seal 3. Which is in no theological blue print. So i guess i am kind of a hick hybrid view of sorts...lol. In any case...this is so amazing you guys....NO? lol Wow. Blessings.

 

[1LoverofGod]

I download and listen to Jan Markell's weekly shows.

I like to go to oneplace.com for Jan's recorded messages.
That website has several good recordings from different solid Bible teachers.

Under the Shadow of His Wings | Understanding the Times with Jan Markell

Listen to Understanding the Times daily radio broadcasts with Jan Markell sermons free online. Your favorite Jan Markell messages, ministry radio programs, podcasts and more!

www.oneplace.com

 

[Shinobi]

I like to go to oneplace.com for Jan's recorded messages.
That website has several good recordings from different solid Bible teachers.

Under the Shadow of His Wings | Understanding the Times with Jan Markell

Listen to Understanding the Times daily radio broadcasts with Jan Markell sermons free online. Your favorite Jan Markell messages, ministry radio programs, podcasts and more!

www.oneplace.com

I don't follow her and I have not listened to the link. But that question in the title just sounds strange to me. Why would anyone even say such a thing. The Rapture has never been on hold, so why say something like that now. It will happen when it happens and not a minute sooner or a minute later.

 

[1LoverofGod]

I don't follow her and I have not listened to the link. But that question in the title just sounds strange to me. Why would anyone even say such a thing. The Rapture has never been on hold, so why say something like that now. It will happen when it happens and not a minute sooner or a minute later.

Jan is solid on her beliefs in the Rapture doctrine. I have noticed that there are some who tend to use titles for their videos that may be a bit sensationalist or poised in a way to get people to watch the video.
I don't pay too much attention to titles, but the content.

 

[TCC]

I don't follow her and I have not listened to the link. But that question in the title just sounds strange to me. Why would anyone even say such a thing. The Rapture has never been on hold, so why say something like that now. It will happen when it happens and not a minute sooner or a minute later.

I think 1Lover said it. But the reason why it sells? Because we tend to see the rapture at a time of massive evil increasing and this world losing its mind. Not a golden age...sober minds fighting the globalists, and peace and safety for all (did i just say that?). That movie is boring. Sound like God's plan was to rapture the saints heroically out of a library while even the staff were on coffee break.

To me that sort of thing is pretty cool to see. Because i would bet on quiet times. Peaceful times. Time that looks like it just gets better and better...and then...muhahaha. But that's just me. Well actually no, its the second coming model. But maybe Christ gave us the second coming model to help wink wink at the pretrib rapture mirror...since...eh hem...there's a horse mirror too, right? Blessings.

 

[Shinobi]

Jan is solid on her beliefs in the Rapture doctrine. I have noticed that there are some who tend to use titles for their videos that may be a bit sensationalist or poised in a way to get people to watch the video.
I don't pay too much attention to titles, but the content.

That may be but if even a good solid Christian teacher resorts to sensationalism even in a sermon title I get real skittish as to their message. I cannot remember once reading in scripture where Jesus led off with some sensationalistic announcement to get His message out. To me sensationalism like that which Satan used on Eve in the garden to trick her has its roots grounded in false doctrinal proclamations.

 

[Shinobi]

But the reason why it sells

Which brings me to the point. What is more important catching people's attention or providing solid biblical teaching. I get why secular news does it but I don't get why bible teachers do the same. To me that is like saying, its ok it is just a little sin and it won't really hurt anyone.

One of the reasons it bothers me so much is because there are so many lay ministers seeking fame and money with their pay per view channels and YT channels wanting all the hits and likes they can get so they can be monetized. These self same ministers and some ordained pastors seem to put more time into the flashiness of their productions with fancy lead in graphics than they do into their material they are talking about. Sadly I see so many baby Christians chasing after all these online ministers and pastors and getting fed with a lot more sugar and junk food than real food. They are not even getting good stable milk just junk formula as it were because they seem to all follow a similar formula by how they all look similar.

 

[1LoverofGod]

That may be but if even a good solid Christian teacher resorts to sensationalism even in a sermon title I get real skittish as to their message. I cannot remember once reading in scripture where Jesus led off with some sensationalistic announcement to get His message out. To me sensationalism like that which Satan used on Eve in the garden to trick her has its roots grounded in false doctrinal proclamations.

To be fair, I don't know why Jan or anyone chooses to title their messages as they do.
I'm the one that interprets the reason for it with being sensationalist.
I didn't intend on making it seem like it's factual for the reason titles are chosen. It was my personal opinion, not intending to form an opinion on anyone else.
I wouldn't want my opinion to bring an unfair judge of character on anyone because I give my opinion, especially when others don't know anything about the people who are choosing their titles, so I must apologize that I replied to your comment with a statement that isn't a fact and not having emphasized that.

 

[Shinobi]

To be fair, I don't know why Jan or anyone chooses to title their messages as they do.
I'm the one that interprets the reason for it with being sensationalist.
I didn't intend on making it seem like it's factual for the reason titles are chosen. It was my personal opinion, not intending to form an opinion on anyone else.
I wouldn't want my opinion to bring an unfair judge of character on anyone because I give my opinion, especially when others don't know anything about the people who are choosing their titles, so I must apologize that I replied to your comment with a statement that isn't a fact and not having emphasized that.

Don't worry about me being led by what you had said. I have been following the rise of what can be called influencers now on TikTok but have been around a lot longer than TikTok has been. This kind of thing goes way back from the start of the internet. People ran forum, chat boards, and other places where groups gathered to talk about current events. Others saw this and moved in as "so called subject matter experts." The problem was they were not subject matter experts at all, they were just very successful scam artist that got others to believe they were subject matter experts. Then enter YT and worse monetization on YT. At the same time around the time of the first Trump presidency came such a person who claimed he had a "Q" level clearance and an inside track to what Trump was doing most of the time. He developed a following that we now know as QAnon. It grew so much and people bought into it so deeply that even though Q was always vague in his claims and managed to manipulate well enough events to make it appear he was accurate that when he was not it was acceptable to the followers to the point that they, the followers would rise up in his defense. He did not need to defend his many wrong predictions.

After Trump left office and it was later found out that Q was never what he implied he was and QAnon dried up and disappeared, still some of the most hard core adherents still tried to keep it alive. Several of them who had already started their own online presence were suddenly at a loss of their income as many of the QAnon followers which were their's as well started going away. A number of them found a new source in the rising NAR pastors that were starting to show up online under a political banner not that far from much of what QAnon was promoting in the previous years. Several of them saw the opportunity and started getting close to and involved with pastors with a strong following online in places like Rumble, YT, and later the big money maker Patreon.

It was then that I noticed a patter developing in that nearly all of them made the rounds with online interviews with Pastors or interviewing Pastors. Along with that came the big lead in productions to their many videos where they had flashy images, short video clips, dramatic music that usually eats up about the first 3 to 5 minutes of their videos. This is all there for a reason which is the longer their video the easier it is for YT to interject advertisments which the channel owner and YT split profits. Along with that you will hear nearly everyone of them begging for likes and subscriptions because the more of those they have the more money they make. What is sad though is a lot of times they talk on technical subjects to which they have no clue how the technology works but repeat what other influencers say about those subjects and do it in a way that makes it sound like it is their knowledge and expertise which it is not.

So when what used to be some of the better main stream pastors start with the likes of sensationalistic titles I see them going down the same rabbit holes as the johnny-come-lately ministers with their flash intros and less that factual news and I have to wonder why they would do that? If their message is important then stick with it and don't be concerned with how many people are seeing it. For one, online they are getting more views there than they are in their churches on Sundays and what ever other days they hold services. It is basically a take off from the old newspaper days when editors told their staff, "If it bleeds, it leads." The idea is the more sensational the headline the more eye catching it is the better chance they have to get someone to buy a copy and the more money the paper makes by having a larger customer base. The bigger the customer base the more they can charge for advertising in their papers.

The only difference is now with the internet so many people running channels have found out that by connecting up with other like minded people they can grow their followers immensely that way. So you start to see some of the same faces over and over connecting up with some other bigger names. It is not about spreading news or providing some kind of special insight it is all about growing a money making following.

Now some will say how can I say that. It is easy. If tomorrow YT took way monetization, more than half of those many channels would disappear and run to only platforms where they can still make money. Just look at the platforms they work on. Rumble TikTok, Instagram, Patreon, etc. Those all pay monetization to various channels. While other smaller and newer platforms donot pay for content. MeWe as far as I know does not monetize and does not have near the number of those influencers showing up there. So why not? Probably because it makes them no money. If money is the driving force and not the value and truth of their content then that tells me they don't care about the content or providing the followers with important information. Hence when Ms. Markel starts running sensational titles I am guessing she is moving towards the financial aspect of the internet rather than the Godly aspect of spreading the Gospel and teaching the word. I see that no different than what old TBN did with the rise of name-it-claim-it prosperity gospel preachers of old and still some now.

If I remember correctly the Apostle Paul never begged for money and in fact worked in his trade as a tent maker to take of his own needs. Yes he was often gifted things that he shared with some of the poorer churches but never beggged for such things. Yet in this day and age we had the early days of TBN prosperity preachers begging for money and now they are begging for likes and subscriptions instead of direct money which some do where people can donate funds but mostly to get greater compensation of from platform monetization.

What I have said here will not sit well with a lot of people and I get that. Some have followed many of the sham artist channels for a long time thinking they were getting good information and now finding out they were lied to is hard to accept. I get that. But, if people actually took the time and started looking at how many of the influencers have similar looking channels, never really say things that you can find on several other channels and nothing of real investigative reporting then you would likely see it is all of the same fake character.

 

[Tall Timbers]

Goody - what a fun thread! Mention whomever we want with no repercussions.
WHHHEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!

 

[TCC]

Which brings me to the point. What is more important catching people's attention or providing solid biblical teaching. I get why secular news does it but I don't get why bible teachers do the same. To me that is like saying, its ok it is just a little sin and it won't really hurt anyone.

One of the reasons it bothers me so much is because there are so many lay ministers seeking fame and money with their pay per view channels and YT channels wanting all the hits and likes they can get so they can be monetized. These self same ministers and some ordained pastors seem to put more time into the flashiness of their productions with fancy lead in graphics than they do into their material they are talking about. Sadly I see so many baby Christians chasing after all these online ministers and pastors and getting fed with a lot more sugar and junk food than real food. They are not even getting good stable milk just junk formula as it were because they seem to all follow a similar formula by how they all look similar.

I agree and believe the rabbit hole goes quite a bit deeper than that. I'm going to say something here, but before I do, I am going to qualify it. My general view is that we are in the age of Laodicea. I realize there might not be an actual age of Laodicea. Maybe they were just churches at the time of Christ. And prophetic ages of churches is not really a thing. I understand that. But as easy as it is to see the Benny Hinns and Joel Osteens of our day, its a lot harder to see good and real orthodoxy be used as merely performing art. But we are in that age. Best seen of late in mega hit Steve Lawson in the reformed camp. And Aliister Begg before him. It is a day and age where even the more accurate teachings of Andy Woods, could be diluted with lets say his take on "the kingdom of God." That he believes the mustard seed parable is about a Frankeinstien tree. Truly an odd day to be alive.

As I have seen Elon Musk seem to want to corral the Qanon crowd (as he sometimes posts tipping the hat to Qanon), it made me wonder in what way might God permit such a thing on such a grand scale at such a prophetic time? And I believe there is a lot to chew on in that rather than just dismissing that people are nuts, and merely turn away in shame at the human race. Which can be tempting. But on rather strong takeaway for me in that is how easy it is to see error in others but not so easy to see it in our own camps. The American reformed church has a TRIPPLE doctorate in that. Because for the most part they believe they are God to the church and it is as it should be.

So here is the statement: What if Qanon is permitted by God to help believers see how we might look at our own sensationalism? Or in our extreme denominational views? Or in how not we but they see conspiracy theories and our views of that are reasonable. It kind of seems to be an age like that a bit, no? Which I guess is one reason I really thinkg John 15:15 (the more I think about it) is a rather prophetic verse for our day.

So like I like Jan Markell. I like the fact that the watcher world is so into a focus on end times. I like that Jack Hibbs says we hope God gives us more time. We may be judged. But we may also see some pretty remarkable things in our day. I like Andy Woods updates. I like Billy Crones zeal and concern and optimism too. I like Brandon H's Tip of the Spear YouTube interviews. I also like that JD Farag opted out of the whole prophecy circuit business. I'm not on board with where he can stray into what I would see as sensationalism either...but of them all JD (with his flaws) is kind of a marverick above the rest in a way. Although I would equally have difficulty with his conclusions, I find myself admire that quality about him pretty highly. But I would see the whole fanfare under the umbrella of a Loadicea age. An age where the church sees itself as the shot caller. Within that there is a lot of humility. But quite a lions share too of keepers of the Indiana Jones version of sacred arc meanings. If this sounds like a back handed comment, its actually an attempt to look it square in the face and own our moment. And see perhaps that we have quite a bit of smoke and mirrors going on in our hearts as fallen...and it stands to reason how this might be a challenge during end time's eve. So just saying, seeing all of that under a Laodicean umbrella kind of helps me to be quite a bit more empathetic in a way I think. Because its my age too. The age I'm in as well. So to see God through all that would imply (to me) that my view on the 1st seal for example might take the cake in sensationalism. And if wrong, pretty ridiculous...lol. Like Teren Brown going to kick the football as Lucy pulls it way.

In that I am not saying your bringing this up does not have merit brother. I think it does. Some modes of end time watching are obviously gameir than others. But a good part of it could be considered vanity faire. But God. So I try and look for the but God part I reckon. It is sad that we might go too far into the sensational. But I think there is a grace to extend poetic license to some to much of it. Because where we might be stronger in places there might also be other strengths some of the more sensational bunch might have too in places as well. I guess I would see that as God is the creator of all things, the enemy can only make bad use of what is. So is there a place for hyperbole and exaggeration in scripture for effect in the bible? How many people plucked out their eyes and cut their hands off? Shouldn't most believes be blind and handless? The devil is not the creator of sensationalism. But because God is, there is a good use for it. And as circus like our age has become, I would most certianly look for God's transcendant use of it as He not only created its existence to be used in the first place, but also how He can use its misuse to even count for good I reckon. If that makes sense.

Not making excuses for marketing ploys. Just I guess trying to make best sense of His use of things in the madness. This is one reason it would be not too easy for me to settle in seeing end times in the age of grace as primarily deception. Because even though that is a given, I would be looking for His transcendent use of it. Because I believe that would be there in spades I reckon. Blessings.

 

[Shinobi]

I agree and believe the rabbit hole goes quite a bit deeper than that. I'm going to say something here, but before I do, I am going to qualify it. My general view is that we are in the age of Laodicea. I realize there might not be an actual age of Laodicea. Maybe they were just churches at the time of Christ. And prophetic ages of churches is not really a thing. I understand that. But as easy as it is to see the Benny Hinns and Joel Osteens of our day, its a lot harder to see good and real orthodoxy be used as merely performing art. But we are in that age. Best seen of late in mega hit Steve Lawson in the reformed camp. And Aliister Begg before him. It is a day and age where even the more accurate teachings of Andy Woods, could be diluted with lets say his take on "the kingdom of God." That he believes the mustard seed parable is about a Frankeinstien tree. Truly an odd day to be alive.

As I have seen Elon Musk seem to want to corral the Qanon crowd (as he sometimes posts tipping the hat to Qanon), it made me wonder in what way might God permit such a thing on such a grand scale at such a prophetic time? And I believe there is a lot to chew on in that rather than just dismissing that people are nuts, and merely turn away in shame at the human race. Which can be tempting. But on rather strong takeaway for me in that is how easy it is to see error in others but not so easy to see it in our own camps. The American reformed church has a TRIPPLE doctorate in that. Because for the most part they believe they are God to the church and it is as it should be.

So here is the statement: What if Qanon is permitted by God to help believers see how we might look at our own sensationalism? Or in our extreme denominational views? Or in how not we but they see conspiracy theories and our views of that are reasonable. It kind of seems to be an age like that a bit, no? Which I guess is one reason I really thinkg John 15:15 (the more I think about it) is a rather prophetic verse for our day.

So like I like Jan Markell. I like the fact that the watcher world is so into a focus on end times. I like that Jack Hibbs says we hope God gives us more time. We may be judged. But we may also see some pretty remarkable things in our day. I like Andy Woods updates. I like Billy Crones zeal and concern and optimism too. I like Brandon H's Tip of the Spear YouTube interviews. I also like that JD Farag opted out of the whole prophecy circuit business. I'm not on board with where he can stray into what I would see as sensationalism either...but of them all JD (with his flaws) is kind of a marverick above the rest in a way. Although I would equally have difficulty with his conclusions, I find myself admire that quality about him pretty highly. But I would see the whole fanfare under the umbrella of a Loadicea age. An age where the church sees itself as the shot caller. Within that there is a lot of humility. But quite a lions share too of keepers of the Indiana Jones version of sacred arc meanings. If this sounds like a back handed comment, its actually an attempt to look it square in the face and own our moment. And see perhaps that we have quite a bit of smoke and mirrors going on in our hearts as fallen...and it stands to reason how this might be a challenge during end time's eve. So just saying, seeing all of that under a Laodicean umbrella kind of helps me to be quite a bit more empathetic in a way I think. Because its my age too. The age I'm in as well. So to see God through all that would imply (to me) that my view on the 1st seal for example might take the cake in sensationalism. And if wrong, pretty ridiculous...lol. Like Teren Brown going to kick the football as Lucy pulls it way.

In that I am not saying your bringing this up does not have merit brother. I think it does. Some modes of end time watching are obviously gameir than others. But a good part of it could be considered vanity faire. But God. So I try and look for the but God part I reckon. It is sad that we might go too far into the sensational. But I think there is a grace to extend poetic license to some to much of it. Because where we might be stronger in places there might also be other strengths some of the more sensational bunch might have too in places as well. I guess I would see that as God is the creator of all things, the enemy can only make bad use of what is. So is there a place for hyperbole and exaggeration in scripture for effect in the bible? How many people plucked out their eyes and cut their hands off? Shouldn't most believes be blind and handless? The devil is not the creator of sensationalism. But because God is, there is a good use for it. And as circus like our age has become, I would most certianly look for God's transcendant use of it as He not only created its existence to be used in the first place, but also how He can use its misuse to even count for good I reckon. If that makes sense.

Not making excuses for marketing ploys. Just I guess trying to make best sense of His use of things in the madness. This is one reason it would be not too easy for me to settle in seeing end times in the age of grace as primarily deception. Because even though that is a given, I would be looking for His transcendent use of it. Because I believe that would be there in spades I reckon. Blessings.

All I am talking about is two fold. First Christians using the ways of the world, the world style Madison Ave. flashy eye candy and verbage to get people's attention and second with the advent of technology, so called lay ministers as they would call themselves suddenly out of no where become sudden subject matter experts on what ever the choice flavor of technology being used today. As I look at many of these folks as they get passed to me for understanding I find usually rather quickly they have little knowledge in the subject matter. For instance, QAnon types as well as other conspiracy theorist types were all over Helene as be man manipulated yet there have been two successive storms formed in the Caribbean in the past couple of weeks that barely made it into the Gulf of Mexico before they dissipated. Yet I don't see all these QAnon types and conspiracy theorist praising the government for destroying those storm before they got huge and made land fall. Funny how that goes like that. They only look at where the problems are and blame it on people for the damage. No I am not discussing the aftermath of recovery as that is a real and different situation. I am talking about how man is using things like weather manipulation only when bad storms or other natural events happen but never mention where the potential of a bad storm or situation doesn't materialize and ignore that because why? I is not sensational enough to get people's attention. Hence my complaint that too many even in the Christian arena are doing way to much like the secular world in how they are attempting to gather followers and usually for the money it brings them.

Is God using QAnon and others at this time? Of course He is. He is always in control and nothing happens that He is not aware of or can use to His will. I would rather suspect much of what we see in this day and age is more of His behind the scenes will happening than we can ever realize. The problem as I perceive it is we are so busy trying to determine what God is up to rather than doing what we are supposed to, obey and not take matters into our own hands save those little things we may be required to do to learn what ever lessons we are intended to learn. So basically I see big name Christian influencers, when they get all flashy with their content as attempting to be not a soldier of God doing His work but some kind of interpreter of God to tell others what and how to think about the things that are happening. I prefer to give unto God what is God's and deal with Caesar only when I am forced to.

 

[GLC11]

Hi GLC11. Yeah i just checked that out. The way i kind of observe the trends is somewhat from an not so popular position (or rather a completely no-supported position...lol). So i love hearing Anday Woods and Tom Hughes updates because i believe they are the two most open to consider wild cards. My eschatological view is predicated on a wild card in comparison to the status quo. So i like the fact that Woods says that even though he understands Trump to slow down globalism (which likely eventually becomes 10 king confederacy), Trump still seems to keep the EZ 38 motif well alive (or through aggravation over him, God permits it to be alive).

I share 1/2 of Woods tribulation opening act view. I agree with Andy W that Ez 38 is seal 2. But I don't agree with his view on seal 1. Which is the status quo view of antichrist. Interesting to note that what Andy means by Trump keeping Ez 38 alive = that Iran is still hot in the mix. But lets think about what this is saying. We are saying that the more activity we see in the middle east, the closer we are to Ez 38? I believe this is the exact wrong filter though (in gentle deference). But appreciate Andy wholeheartedly.

The reason i see a different filter is because Ez 38 occurs when Israel is at peace. I believe the 1 Thes Peace and Security is about Israel not the world. And super highlights Ez 38 on the brink in 1 Thes 5. So, I believe Iran has to be humbled. Has to be pushed way back. In order for middle east peace to thrive. And i believe we will likely see that Lord willing. If this calculation is accurate, Andy might feel that Ez 38 potential just ran away from us....or went into some undiscoverable hibernation mode. But that is what i believe we are looking for. We are looking for a time when it doesn't look aggressive to know the clam in the eye of hurricane is THE condition of the Ez 38.

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Well i am just sharing this along the way. And really appreciate the reminder to check out Andy. As I mentioned my other favorite is Tom Hughes. Tom did an assessment recently too where Tom is actually THE first pastor to articulate two major features of the view i hold. I have never heard this from any pastor of theologian prior. And i would notice because my view is almost counterintuitive to the way we are looking at end times taking shape (for instance i believe globalism does not just get slowed down but gets punched right in the face...lol). I guess we will see. I totally could be mistaken. But whether so or not...we are kind of at that place and time i reckon to see. Wow...what a time to be alive. Almost surreal...isn't it? lol.

So what Tom said that was so linking to my favored perspective is this:

1. Peace and safety is related to Israel
2. Peace and safety is related to Ez 38

On that second point what i mean a little broader is that Tom sees the coming age we typically associate with the antichrist (a man who comes to solve the problems of the world when we need it most), a golden age of sorts, as related to the peace and security leading to Ez 38, having no reference of the antichrist. So yeah, that i have never heard before but is in line with my views. Andy would see it differently, but if there is anything to that view, it would make sense that more get on board as we go. If not, then yeah, no one should then, amen.

In some sense, as Tom Hughes would imply, is that i would extend Peace and Safety i guess to the whole world too, but primarily likely because and for Israel i believe. So the thing i think is kind of funny is that prophecy proper kind of might look upon the lines of a man of rescue to come with all the solutions, and be the antichrist. Instead we get Trump and MAGA...lol. Which i do believe has a high potential to overturn the globalists and establish a brief golden age that establishes Israel for Ez 38. I guess we will see. In my perspective i believe the church is here during seal 1 as a witness to Israel. And likely rapture on the cusp of seal 2. And the tribulation staring on seal 3. Which is in no theological blue print. So i guess i am kind of a hick hybrid view of sorts...lol. In any case...this is so amazing you guys....NO? lol Wow. Blessings.

I think you may find this podcast episode that came out yesterday interesting. Allie Beth Stuckey works for The Blaze . Not a prophecy teacher, but definitely a saved believer.

She had a guest on who is very knowledgeable about the WEF and their “Great Reset” plans.

Title of their discussion: Did Trump Just Stop the Great Reset?

This is the link. - YouTube

 

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I think you may find this podcast episode that came out yesterday interesting. Allie Beth Stuckey works for The Blaze . Not a prophecy teacher, but definitely a saved believer.

She had a guest on who is very knowledgeable about the WEF and their “Great Reset” plans.

Title of their discussion: Did Trump Just Stop the Great Reset?

This is the link. - YouTube

Amen dear sister. I came out of her American Calvinist camp. And although I am no longer in the reformed camp, I consider Alley incredible. I would disagree with some of her core theological stances, but I see her as definately being used by God. Some of her interviews have been the best I'd seen on certain topics. And she has a very helpful and relevant format. I have often recommended her takes on certain things in the past. It's funny, I had this video you tagged for me (thanks ) something I was going to get to today. But totally forgot about it. And will check it out.

This is the kind of thing I am talking about. How robustly it would appear a Trump admin be against the evil globalist empire. In the watcher world we can tend to perhaps run interference for the globalist having a place. Because prophetically we know something like what we see in them today will become the beast system. We know that. So if it goes away we might feel our sense of the bible is being distorted or downplayed. In some ways we can tend perhaps to almost cherish globalist takeover because it affirms where things were going according to prophecy. I was like that a few years back. It is amazing to watch things form, that is for sure.

But it just seems that there is a monkey wrench perhaps in the works. We can't let Trump take the one world government out of the picture because Trump does not undue prophecy according to the bible. I think that is where some of the tension in the church is on some topics of that. But the way I roll with that is moving the tribulation start point to seal 3. To me, that would be the reemergence of the globalists. It just makes a lot of sense that God might in His age of grace pounce out evil government to demonstrate His character one last huge clear time while it is still light to see it. Because after this, the judgement. And it will be very challenging for people to see the character of God when the world becomes His bowling alley for 7 years. All the more reason he might conclude the age of grace with victory over globalism for all to see. That's my view. But to some it probably sounds too Qanonish or new agey. But I'm not coming from that place. And expect a full defeat of globalism like nothing we have ever seen. Because the world has never seen a seal before. Its to that degree i'd push it. So yeah, I guess willl have to see if it actually goes like that. Only the Lord knows. But we have never been so close for it to look like that is a great possibility.

Thanks I'll check it out for sure. The guy she is interviewing there had a great interview with her before and it really did highlight just how powerful America is likely about to become. Pretty trippy. Just for the record, because I know I can sound like a few things. I am not a Christian Nationalists. Nor believe that the church takes on the 7 mountains of society to get the world ready for the return of Christ. I think that will likely be a difficult narrative for some because of how it might seem to look like that. I just see it God demonstrating His character at the close of the age of grace. And America and Israel her beneficiaries in that. I could be wrong. And I always could be wrong that in the tribulation I do think America is the best candidate for Babylon the Great. But not in the age of grace. But I am just saying in the event the things I share might sound a little Christian Natioanlistic like, it's not where I am coming from. In fact I believe America will become babylon the great...so much for the Christian Naionalising of her in that sense of a perspective. Thanks for sharing with me in this way dear sister. I willl totally check out this video. Blessings.

 

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All I am talking about is two fold. First Christians using the ways of the world, the world style Madison Ave. flashy eye candy and verbage to get people's attention and second with the advent of technology, so called lay ministers as they would call themselves suddenly out of no where become sudden subject matter experts on what ever the choice flavor of technology being used today. As I look at many of these folks as they get passed to me for understanding I find usually rather quickly they have little knowledge in the subject matter. For instance, QAnon types as well as other conspiracy theorist types were all over Helene as be man manipulated yet there have been two successive storms formed in the Caribbean in the past couple of weeks that barely made it into the Gulf of Mexico before they dissipated. Yet I don't see all these QAnon types and conspiracy theorist praising the government for destroying those storm before they got huge and made land fall. Funny how that goes like that. They only look at where the problems are and blame it on people for the damage. No I am not discussing the aftermath of recovery as that is a real and different situation. I am talking about how man is using things like weather manipulation only when bad storms or other natural events happen but never mention where the potential of a bad storm or situation doesn't materialize and ignore that because why? I is not sensational enough to get people's attention. Hence my complaint that too many even in the Christian arena are doing way to much like the secular world in how they are attempting to gather followers and usually for the money it brings them.

Is God using QAnon and others at this time? Of course He is. He is always in control and nothing happens that He is not aware of or can use to His will. I would rather suspect much of what we see in this day and age is more of His behind the scenes will happening than we can ever realize. The problem as I perceive it is we are so busy trying to determine what God is up to rather than doing what we are supposed to, obey and not take matters into our own hands save those little things we may be required to do to learn what ever lessons we are intended to learn. So basically I see big name Christian influencers, when they get all flashy with their content as attempting to be not a soldier of God doing His work but some kind of interpreter of God to tell others what and how to think about the things that are happening. I prefer to give unto God what is God's and deal with Caesar only when I am forced to.

Lol. Saturday Night Live did a skit a while back on the Fisher Price Podcaster Toy. Where men could wear themselves off of their opinionated podcast rants and just use the toy instead (like a solution from family members to help curb their spreading their ideas all over the neighborhood). In that sense it is unfortunate that the pulpit or conferences of believes etc have become SUPER opinion podcasting. A phenomenon of our age for sure. You make a beautiful point brother. We are not "he who can have the best opinion wins." Or as one believer put it, "God is not going to say to us when we see Him: "You absolutely nailed it." lol. Yet this unfortunately is the vision in our heads. Great points about being/doing rather than incerting ourselves into the matrix of having the golden puzzle pieces. I suppose by seeing we might feel close to God.

I do think though for most believers it is exciting to see what is going on in our day and to be able share in that experience together. Like a family on a road trip. So I think there is some good to it. But point well taken. Blessings.

 

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I do think though for most believers it is exciting to see what is going on in our day and to be able share in that experience together. Like a family on a road trip. So I think there is some good to it. But point well taken. Blessings.

If that were the case it would not be so problematic. Telling someone about something exciting happening in your life is a lot different than trying to be the official source of all news like so many online influencers do. I have one who lives close by me. He keeps talking about the FEMA head quarters and mentions the amount of military vehicles and occasional Helo that lands in the open space. What he does not know is that the Hummers and other military vehicles belong to the Army Reserve center that uses the same federal land which is in no way associated with FEMA. In fact the unit that is housed there is nothing more then a mail unit. No special ops going on, no rapid reaction soldiers, just ordinary support soldiers making sure those working on deployments get their mail. But to hear this guy talk about it, the military is special ops there just to protect the FEMA people that work there.

Back in the 90s when I was on a special detachment, I spent a lot of time in that particular reserve center as it was a quick stop off on my way home. I knew a number of the people who worked there very well. In fact one of the ladies was married to the man I was working for as she was a full time reservist so I am familiar with the unit their building and a lot of their equipment and none of it has anything to do with FEMA save they share federal property which used to be a Nike Missile site back in the 60s. But if you listen to this guy and you don't know that he is way off base you would probably accept that something nefarious is going on around that particular FEMA HQ.

 

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If that were the case it would not be so problematic. Telling someone about something exciting happening in your life is a lot different than trying to be the official source of all news like so many online influencers do. I have one who lives close by me. He keeps talking about the FEMA head quarters and mentions the amount of military vehicles and occasional Helo that lands in the open space. What he does not know is that the Hummers and other military vehicles belong to the Army Reserve center that uses the same federal land which is in no way associated with FEMA. In fact the unit that is housed there is nothing more then a mail unit. No special ops going on, no rapid reaction soldiers, just ordinary support soldiers making sure those working on deployments get their mail. But to hear this guy talk about it, the military is special ops there just to protect the FEMA people that work there.

Back in the 90s when I was on a special detachment, I spent a lot of time in that particular reserve center as it was a quick stop off on my way home. I knew a number of the people who worked there very well. In fact one of the ladies was married to the man I was working for as she was a full time reservist so I am familiar with the unit their building and a lot of their equipment and none of it has anything to do with FEMA save they share federal property which used to be a Nike Missile site back in the 60s. But if you listen to this guy and you don't know that he is way off base you would probably accept that something nefarious is going on around that particular FEMA HQ.

Yeah that sounds kind of like my intro to YouTube. I had no idea what that whole world was like. I started off with Niberu ending the world daily and Mandella Effect. After a while, I got tired of tripping out and dropped both of them. I guess they serve as antibodies. lol. Its like we have a need to be in the know. Like we all became Karens. Nice. This would be an evidence of end times lovers of self. We must be that important to have such serious knowledge. As teens we are like that, but generally it should be something we grow out of. I see that problem in general though on a much wider and deeper scale as to how the church at large is forming (or has been for a very long time). But I try to see where there might be solutions to that. I kind of love that I have a different view to monkey wrench it all...lol. Not on purpose. But it does help me laugh at myself. And see the better person beyond where others might be trapped in an identity crisis or something. Its sad if the best we can do is take someone by the hand and lead them to some wall with safety railing and call it a friendship. So yeah I get what you are saying. So many ways to avert genuine human communication and interaction where His Spirit organically in His church makes things "really" happen.

I guess I just try and be a solution to be able to help others maybe think outside our own boxes if possible. I do have a friend like that but even still there are times it takes quite a % to reel him in away from all the white noise introduced into his life. I do think I have learned a lot along the way even from the sensationalists. Some stuff sticks out. But I hear what you are saying. Blessings.