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The choice was Trump and Harris. That's what we had. There was no Utopian choice. How in the world does anyone justify Kamala over Trump, even if and especially arguing in the context of being evil? The left can't even account for evil, as their worldview doesn't logically allow it. But Christians should know better. Harris, her admin, and the people she represents, are in your face evil.

They celebrate their "right" to kill their children. They fist pump and go slayyyy queeeeen! They are viciously anti-Israel and pro Palestine/Hamas. They chant "From the river to the sea". They openly mock Christians from the White House, movies, entertainment, and various other mediums and platforms. They aren't restrained about any of it. They aren't tripping over their own feet. They aren't accidentally bumping into any of it. It's in your face. Your brother isn't infallible and criticizing the nonsense isn't mocking him. I'm not even Trumper, but goodness... Kamala Harris? Seriously? I'm not saying you have to be Trumper to be Christian, nor do I think it's a litmus test. But I also don't argue in bad faith or by feelings.

And speaking of the heart, it's always yikes when people argue for it and oftentimes from it. God has this to say about it: "The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it?" Contextualized, this speaks not only of the nation Judah and its goings on, but the human condition itself. It illustrates that our hearts often lead us astray and down the wrong path. There have been so many that were preaching and teaching from the heart, they were so sure of the things and led many to destruction. The follow your heart, trust your heart stuff dog doesn't hunt.
I won't lie. I've had similar thoughts about Trump, but then I think about who instigated those things that he is accused of- Jared Kushner helped a lot with the Middle Eastern diplomacy, and the vaccine is not called the "Fauci ouchie" for nothing. Neither one of them could be considered good counsel.

Then I look at the absolute hatred of Trump from those who actively celebrate evil, and it's as demonically-inspired and irrational as the hatred of the Jews. If we were raptured right now, and Trump were left behind, I really don't think he would be able to influence and finesse the world the way the a/C will. We are battling a spiritual war, not against flesh and blood. The real enemy sees Trump as not helpful, and that means something.

I don't believe Trump is saved. What I've heard from him it sounds like he believes in God, but is still trusting in a works-based salvation, which we all know leads straight to hell. That said, I don't think he's that far from salvation, as he has some idea of right and wrong and does actually want to do right. As Paul said about the law, it's there to convict. We need to pray for him and his advisors: for saving faith, correct instruction, and for wisdom.
 
They better do something good with it this time!:tap:

There's still going to be the RINO factor. Who will lead the House and Senate? Johnson is questionable, IMO... One good thing that is different now is it appears that Trump pretty much owns the Republican Party and the Establishment Republicans are in the back seat where in 2016 the Republican Party did not like having Trump in office and seemed to do everything to slow him down. Now the Party of Trump can pressure the Establishment Republicans who are still in office. But the leadership is going to be very important, I hope mistakes are not made there.

I expect a whirlwind of action in the very first days of President Trump's next term. It's going to be interesting, and if it does come to pass, it'll probably only last 4 years. Anyone who replaces Trump will be a "politician" who got elected here and there by accepting big money and returning favors for that money. DeSantis is a good example of that. Remember how quickly he embraced those offering him support when he first ran for President? It'll likely happen to anyone who isn't Trump. Trump appears to be a one-of-a-kind man that God only made one of for the USA.
 
There's still going to be the RINO factor. Who will lead the House and Senate? Johnson is questionable, IMO... One good thing that is different now is it appears that Trump pretty much owns the Republican Party and the Establishment Republicans are in the back seat where in 2016 the Republican Party did not like having Trump in office and seemed to do everything to slow him down. Now the Party of Trump can pressure the Establishment Republicans who are still in office. But the leadership is going to be very important, I hope mistakes are not made there.

I expect a whirlwind of action in the very first days of President Trump's next term. It's going to be interesting, and if it does come to pass, it'll probably only last 4 years. Anyone who replaces Trump will be a "politician" who got elected here and there by accepting big money and returning favors for that money. DeSantis is a good example of that. Remember how quickly he embraced those offering him support when he first ran for President? It'll likely happen to anyone who isn't Trump. Trump appears to be a one-of-a-kind man that God only made one of for the USA.
I pray we can get a Godly man in office. A long shot but I won’t stop praying for that. Or at least a friend to Christians.
 
I won't lie. I've had similar thoughts about Trump, but then I think about who instigated those things that he is accused of- Jared Kushner helped a lot with the Middle Eastern diplomacy, and the vaccine is not called the "Fauci ouchie" for nothing. Neither one of them could be considered good counsel.

Then I look at the absolute hatred of Trump from those who actively celebrate evil, and it's as demonically-inspired and irrational as the hatred of the Jews. If we were raptured right now, and Trump were left behind, I really don't think he would be able to influence and finesse the world the way the a/C will. We are battling a spiritual war, not against flesh and blood. The real enemy sees Trump as not helpful, and that means something.

I don't believe Trump is saved. What I've heard from him it sounds like he believes in God, but is still trusting in a works-based salvation, which we all know leads straight to hell. That said, I don't think he's that far from salvation, as he has some idea of right and wrong and does actually want to do right. As Paul said about the law, it's there to convict. We need to pray for him and his advisors: for saving faith, correct instruction, and for wisdom.
Oh, I have, too. Trump is not my kinda guy. I don't have stickers, memorabilia, or anything else re Trump. I caught flak for not being all in during his tenure. I'm only speaking about the two choices at hand. I share a lot of what you said here.

If Harris would have won, it would have sucked, but I would have prayed for her and her admin as instructed in Scripture, just like I did Biden's, so that we may live peaceably. Yeah, it would be a longshot, but that's what we are to do in any case. But the Harris admin previous and the one that just got thwarted was just so in your face obnoxious and hideous, they made the decision quite easy for me. The assassination attempts were the cherries on top.
 
"We know what God's Word says concerning those who seek to divide His land. We also know that Israel will make a pact with the Antichrist. What if the “Deal of the Century” / “Abraham Accord” would lead to this very pact? God is neither ambiguous nor silent on this matter. He has consistently communicated His position on this matter throughout Scripture. It really doesn't matter what we think about it. What matters is that we understand and accept God's position - anything else leads to judgment."

Here is the rest of the summary on the topic.
Thank you for posting that to where I can see it. I agree that dividing God's land is an invitation to judgement. I believe the attempt that was made before was one of the reasons for Trump's failure to win the White House the last time he ran. None of us believe that Trump is America's savior. I do, however, believe that his winning the election this time is God's reprieve for the time being. I believe that God raises up rulers and casts them down for His own purposes and will, and I think that Trump will protect Christians' God-given freedoms, while Harris would have done everything in her power to persecute them, as this administration has done to abortion protestors.

I am not convinced that Trump is the antiChrist based on the arguments I laid out earlier. I do think he has been influenced by evil advisors, and that the devil has used them to his advantage. I think that Trump's stances on homosexuality and abortion show that he is worldly. That is not in question.

Let me ask you this: between Trump and Harris, who do you believe will be a friend to Israel? Do you really think that Harris wouldn't try to force Israel to give up land to the Palestinians if she had been elected? Can you in good faith promote Harris over Trump? Because that was the choice we had. Harris or Trump.

ETA: and I still challenge the idea that we voted for Trump because we were worldly and only wanted more comfort and cheap gas. There was and is a lot more at stake, and voting for Trump doesn't automatically make us Laodicea.
 
Here is the rest of the summary on the topic.
Hi Grace, I skimmed your paper and would like to offer my questions.

Have you considered that Trump wants Judea and Samaria occupied by Israel? And, your paper is framed in world conditions from 2016 so maybe David Friedman was anticipating Gaza as the home for Palestinian Arabs? That pig won't fly now.

Also, have you encountered the sort of speech called 'legalese'? Much of your paper assumes that information released to the public is on the surface accurate so we can carefully be informed with these details. What I mean is that the info we've been able to digest may not be the full story. For example, in today's news we hear that the Arab world readily condemns each Israeli win against Iranian terrorists. In reality, a majority of the Arab nations hate the terrorists as much as we do and silently cheer. They would not publicly write that. When policies are in the works regarding Israel, Arabs will not tell us that they are open to trade and stability, but they are.

I've another question that's unrelated to your point. Have you followed Pastor JB Hixson? I like his podcasts occasionally and I LOVE his Gospel presentation. Anyhow, he makes similar arguments that you seem to be making. I think I understand the worry that Christians may love Trump too much in the US. What I would not agree with JB on is how he attacks Trump with high piety. Christians like myself will pray for those in leadership, keep our focus on the Bible, and find the humility to see that God put Trump back into the WH, not for us to worship but for us to keep in prayer.

"Let every soul be subject to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except from God, and the authorities that exist are appointed by God." Rom. 13:1
 
Americans have known freedom that has been denied to most of the peoples of the world. Enemies from within took that from us. We're fighting now to recover those freedoms. It's been said that the USA is the first country to vote itself out of communism. May it be so and may our rights under the US Constitution and Bill of Rights both return and endure.
 
I wasn't going to fret too much about this election. I voted my conscience between the 2, turned off the tv by 10:00 pm, said a prayer of thankfulness for all His blessings and prayed the Lord's will be done. Watched the back of my eyelids until about 4:00am, went out to my chair and turned on the news. I was very pleasantly surprised by the win, thanked the Lord again as I drifted off into peaceful sleep for a couple hours.
 
Americans have known freedom that has been denied to most of the people's of the world. Enemies from within took that from us. We're fighting now to recover those freedoms. It's been said that the USA is the first country to vote itself out of communism. May it be so and may our rights under the US Constitution and Bill of Rights both return and endure.
Agreed. Folks on X, TikTok , etc. have absolutely no idea how bad it is beyond their picket fences. You can tell how kept they are by their proclamations of doom re Trump. They don't' realize that you can't talk as freely and disrespectfully to world leaders with such hideous verbiage as they do and keep your spleen in countries that have actual dictators. Everyone insults Trump at the popular level and absolutely nothing happens to them. They stay well fed, with a roof atop of their heads, electricity charging the phones to insult him on, and no mortars or spookys in the sky pointed toward their rooftops. They also are applauded en masse after the barrage of insults. Sheltered, mollycoddled, and infantilized ilk, not to mention demonically misinformed.
 
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