Mystery NJ drones are coming from Iranian mothership offshore, congressman suggests: ‘Should be shot down’

A New Jersey congressman claimed Wednesday that the mystery drones over the Garden State are from Iran, and they’re being launched by a mothership parked off the East Coast.

Rep. Jeff Van Drew, a Republican, said the drones “very possibly could be” from Iran, citing confidential sources during an appearance on Fox News Wednesday morning.

“I’m going to tell you the real deal. Iran launched a mothership that contains these drones,” Van Drew said. “It’s off the East Coast of the United States of America. They’ve launched drones.”

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Mystery NJ drones are coming from Iranian mothership offshore, congressman suggests: ‘Should be shot down’

A New Jersey congressman claimed Wednesday that the mystery drones over the Garden State are from Iran, and they’re being launched by a mothership parked off the East Coast.

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[Batman]

Isn't Greer the dude that is all over Youtube with vids that seem to show astral projection contact with demons?

 

[Shinobi]

Isn't Greer the dude that is all over Youtube with vids that seem to show astral projection contact with demons?

Would not know about that. I have only heard the man's name and never sure who he was or what he was about. In short have not vetted him enough to know if I should listen to him. I know when they went with the "psyop" terminology as a government operation I remember back to the days of AJ and Jade Helm 15 which was to lead to civil war and was as advertised a certain type of specialized train for various groups of soldiers.

 

[1LoverofGod]

Nuclear Power Plants Report Massive Uptick In Drone Sightings​

The number of drone flyovers of nuclear plants for the entire year nearly doubled in one week, from December 10th to December 17th, according to data provided to The War Zone by the Nuclear Regulatory Commission (NRC).

Between Jan. 1 and Dec.10, nuclear facility licensees reported a total of 15 drone events. As of about 1 p.m. Dec., 17, that number had jumped to 26, NRC spokesman Dave McIntyre told The War Zone on Friday in response to our query. While the timeline overlaps with a rash of drone sightings across the country and especially in the New Jersey area – including over military installations and energy infrastructure – it is unclear at the moment what, if any, connection there is to the dramatic increase in suspicious drone events over nuclear facilities.

“…before January 2024, nuclear power plant licensees voluntarily reported flyovers by uncrewed aerial systems, such as drones, to the Federal Aviation Administration; law enforcement (local and the FBI); and the NRC,” McIntyre told The War Zone. “Because reporting was voluntary, our information may not reflect the total number of UAS overflights of nuclear power plants.”

Once a flyover is reported, he added, “the NRC provides the specifics to other agencies for follow-up, including the FBI. The NRC does not investigate this type of activity once it has been reported.”

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Nuclear Power Plants Report Massive Uptick In Drone Sightings

The drone reports filed by nuclear power plant operators for the entire year nearly doubled in just the week after Dec. 10.

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[Hol]

It’s the stupidest thing that the Biden admin refuses to communicate honestly.

They focus on calling evil good (e.g., Afghanistan pull out - their proudest moment). They follow their satanic lead forces. They dig a pit of confusion for us and fall in themselves.

 

[Margery]

Nuclear Power Plants Report Massive Uptick In Drone Sightings​

The number of drone flyovers of nuclear plants for the entire year nearly doubled in one week, from December 10th to December 17th, according to data provided to The War Zone by the Nuclear Regulatory Commission (NRC).

Between Jan. 1 and Dec.10, nuclear facility licensees reported a total of 15 drone events. As of about 1 p.m. Dec., 17, that number had jumped to 26, NRC spokesman Dave McIntyre told The War Zone on Friday in response to our query. While the timeline overlaps with a rash of drone sightings across the country and especially in the New Jersey area – including over military installations and energy infrastructure – it is unclear at the moment what, if any, connection there is to the dramatic increase in suspicious drone events over nuclear facilities.

“…before January 2024, nuclear power plant licensees voluntarily reported flyovers by uncrewed aerial systems, such as drones, to the Federal Aviation Administration; law enforcement (local and the FBI); and the NRC,” McIntyre told The War Zone. “Because reporting was voluntary, our information may not reflect the total number of UAS overflights of nuclear power plants.”

Once a flyover is reported, he added, “the NRC provides the specifics to other agencies for follow-up, including the FBI. The NRC does not investigate this type of activity once it has been reported.”

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Nuclear Power Plants Report Massive Uptick In Drone Sightings

The drone reports filed by nuclear power plant operators for the entire year nearly doubled in just the week after Dec. 10.

www.twz.com

That does sound alarming. Russia wouldn't tolerate it, nor would China to name 2 other largeish powers.

Trudeau would invite them to tour our top secret facilities even further.

 

[Shinobi]

I may have a much different take than most on this situation. Some of it comes from reports like this one. First of all there are conflicting statements in that sometimes it says fly overs and other time it says in the vicinity of installations. Now that may sound nitpicking but it does make a huge legal difference. Depending on the the extent of prohibitions over and around various facilities people can get close right up to the line and yet not cross that line and remain legal but suspicious. I don't fly commercial drones so I am not up to speed with all the rules by the FAA on where, when, and at what altitudes are allowed but other than those with FAA restrictions flying drones is open to a lot of places legally. So it begs the question is it just people bothered by drones being seen in close proximity or is it actual violations of FAA restrictions? This is what the news is not being clear on.

I am not opposed to the idea that nefarious characters up to no good might be doing intelligence surveillance in some of these cases. But since the news is not being clear but leaving it open to speculation, I have to stop and think about how most people in the world handle unknown situations. The general rule is that we tend to think the worse is happening even if it is not. That is our human nature which does not match to what Jesus said about not having fear. That is blatant fear showing itself and the news pandering to it for readership numbers which we see even the alternative news people struggling for because it gets them more money.

One place I have a real problem with is that too many people are seeing things but don't recognize them for what they are. They can tell the difference between a quadcopter drone and helicopter especially in the dark. They hear the sounds but are not familiar enough with one or the other to know the difference nor can they tell from the FAA required lighting on them if they are an actual aircraft or a drone. From many of the images that I have seen and a lot of the videos much of what is said to be drones is more likely small helicopters or small private planes at distances. In my area I can often see something and not know what it is at distance but can go in and look on the computer on flight tracking sites and find out. Most people don't even know that kind of knowledge is possible to trace down. It is not 100% accurate as I do get a good number of tactical military aircraft that fly with their transponders off so unless I see them I will never know what they are for surety. Still all my years around various aircraft helos and jets I can often get a good idea of what a plane may be even if I don't see it. There are distinctive sounds with various types of aircraft which makes identifying them sight unseen a little better than nothing at all.

Additionally I live very close to the police station and they are often times flying their drone in the area so I get to see and hear it both night and day so I am getting more familiar with their sounds. Same with the fire department drones when they are doing practice runs for training and what have you. If you go up to most people on the street and play the sound or show them an actual drone in the distance they will tell you they don't know what it is. They are not interested in it so they don't keep up with it.

I say all this because I am left wondering if someone some where has not started an internet hoax flying drones in close proximity to various military bases and other facilities. I know some of the so called alternative media type people are big in drones for getting news stories because they can do it safely from a distance. Even so there are others who actually race drones as I have seen that happen in the late evening after dark when two of them were racing down a major road then both turned to a side street and then I lost both sight and sound of them. I later found out that there is a thing of racing drones and that appears to be what I saw that night, maybe a practice run. I can't say for sure but it makes more sense than it was happening for intelligence gathering because they were flat out moving very fast. So with this article not clearly stating exactly what is being seen, where it is being seen as in a fly over meaning it moves over the air space or just in close proximity but not in the actual airspace, it is hard to know what is actually going on. Going on Occam's Razor I would tend to think with all the hoaxes we have seen over the years in the US that makes the most sense while getting people all worked up that some nefarious thing is happening. In my younger years of shenanigans that is exactly what I would be doing. In fact I have done similar using cut outs over flash lights and shining it on peoples windows from the outside so that it appears that an illuminated shape is moving around outside the window. Not doing any harm but having a bit of fun messing with friends. I thinks a lot more of what is happening is along that lines than actual nefarious actions of foreign actors.

 

[Hol]

I say all this because I am left wondering if someone some where has not started an internet hoax flying drones in close proximity to various military bases and other facilities.

I’d like your insights to prove true.

In the OP we have a congressman who claims it’s an operation out of Iran. Iran has threatened, again, to assassinate President Trump.

All of the news from Biden is untrustworthy. He wants Iran to win and his admin hates Trump.

If the Biden folks are authorizing both a small swarm of domestic drones and Iran drones in the mix, all of this sudden activity would make sense to me.

Your view is good with me, but I’d have to discount several things: 1) the OP, 2) Iran & Biden admin want Trump dead, 3) Biden admin lie and never tell the truth, and 4) these drones are unusual in the area as witnesses from all backgrounds raise alarms.

 

[Shinobi]

I’d like your insights to prove true.

In the OP we have a congressman who claims it’s an operation out of Iran. Iran has threatened, again, to assassinate President Trump.

All of the news from Biden is untrustworthy. He wants Iran to win and his admin hates Trump.

If the Biden folks are authorizing both a small swarm of domestic drones and Iran drones in the mix, all of this sudden activity would make sense to me.

Your view is good with me, but I’d have to discount several things: 1) the OP, 2) Iran & Biden admin want Trump dead, 3) Biden admin lie and never tell the truth, and 4) these drones are unusual in the area as witnesses from all backgrounds raise alarms.

I can't discount nefarious foreign actors like Iran. Although I don't think they were at the start of it. I can see where someone got the bright idea lets help Iran ruin things for Trump and get them over here doing this vary thing. Just shows how much the one side is willing to destroy their home for personal power and that is always a possibility. What is the old saying power corrupts and corrupts absolutely. We have seen the corruption at extreme levels in the past decade or more so I can go with the idea that Iran and even China could be in the mix. After all we let a Chinese balloon traverse the entire nation before doing anything about it. In days long past that would have never happened as it would have been brought down immediately. It could only happen when corrupt government types allowed it. So yeah it could be in the mix.

My only complaint is at this point we are getting so many mixed signals that I think by design if foreign agents are taking advantage of the situation we can not know for sure which is bad for all of us. I am thing 9/11 on steroids possibly at some point in time. But I would be a lot happier if we saw better images and less conflicting messages to help us as citizens assess the situation better. Don't get me wrong, that is wishful thinking and I know that but at this point I am still free to wish for honest government, protection by them of the people of the country being invaded. But I am free to wish none the less so I exercise it readily.

 

[1LoverofGod]

Former defense official makes earth-shattering revelation as mystery drones cause concern: ‘We are not alone’​

Testimony and several reports have exposed unidentified flying object (UFO) sightings across the country amid the national attention on apparent drone observations over recent weeks.

Luiz Elizondo, the former head of the Defense Department’s Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program, and other witnesses testified before Congress last month about an alleged government group “hid[ing] the fact that we are not alone in the cosmos.”

“I believe that we as Americans can handle the truth. And I also believe the world deserves the truth,” Elizondo said, urging Congress to enact legislation protecting whistleblowers too afraid to come forward.

The hearing was part of a larger effort by lawmakers to investigate UFOs, or unidentified aerial phenomena (UAPs), and determine whether elements within the government are unlawfully withholding evidence from Congress.

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Former defense official makes earth-shattering revelation as mystery drones cause concern: ‘We are not alone’

Testimony and several reports have exposed unidentified flying object (UFO) sightings across the country amid the national attention on apparent drone observations over recent weeks.

nypost.com

 

[1LoverofGod]

Lol I was just thinking today that the "Drone mystery" has been pretty quiet.

Well well, so, "we're not alone".
I think L A Marzulli would be interested in talking to this guy

More "conditioning", to explain away the coming Rapture of the Church.
The devil knows it's close and has to create a lie to mislead those left behind.

 

[Work4Peanuts]

Former defense official makes earth-shattering revelation as mystery drones cause concern: ‘We are not alone’​

Testimony and several reports have exposed unidentified flying object (UFO) sightings across the country amid the national attention on apparent drone observations over recent weeks.

Luiz Elizondo, the former head of the Defense Department’s Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program, and other witnesses testified before Congress last month about an alleged government group “hid[ing] the fact that we are not alone in the cosmos.”

“I believe that we as Americans can handle the truth. And I also believe the world deserves the truth,” Elizondo said, urging Congress to enact legislation protecting whistleblowers too afraid to come forward.

The hearing was part of a larger effort by lawmakers to investigate UFOs, or unidentified aerial phenomena (UAPs), and determine whether elements within the government are unlawfully withholding evidence from Congress.

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Former defense official makes earth-shattering revelation as mystery drones cause concern: ‘We are not alone’

Testimony and several reports have exposed unidentified flying object (UFO) sightings across the country amid the national attention on apparent drone observations over recent weeks.

nypost.com

This dude is on every UFO tv show out there, He's been saying this for years.

 

[Shinobi]

Just saw that my old base in Japan had to shut down both military and commercial flights. Yes in a agreement with the Japanese Government there is a commercial terminal at the base and the planes share the run way so it is both military and commercial air field. It would not be so bad as just military because very few planes are carrying large numbers of passengers but commercial planes do. So interference could end up very bad. As it turns out a flight about to land had to go in to a holding pattern and due to low fuel eventually had to fly over 100 miles away to another airport. This was this last Sunday. I still think this like many in the US are just people who don't realize the dangers they create by flying close to air fields of any kind. I sure hope they start catching these people and start laying the law down on them and making a public spectacle of those captures so it makes the news and people rethink their stupid actions.

 

[1LoverofGod]

Former DARPA Drone Operator Claims Mysterious Drones Over U.S. May Be a ‘Distraction’ for Future Military Attack​

In recent weeks, numerous reports of mysterious drone sightings have emerged across New Jersey and other East Coast states, causing public concern and prompting federal investigations.

The Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) has responded by imposing temporary flight restrictions over critical infrastructure in New Jersey, effective until January 17, 2025, threatening “deadly force” against aircraft violating the zones if they pose an “imminent security threat.”

Despite these measures, federal agencies, including the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) and the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI), have stated that the majority of these sightings involve lawful drone operations or misidentified manned aircraft.

They assert that there is no credible evidence suggesting a threat to national security or public safety.

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Former DARPA Drone Operator Claims Mysterious Drones Over U.S. May Be a 'Distraction' for Future Military Attack | The Gateway Pundit | by Jim Hᴏft

Former DARPA drone operator Mike Glover raises alarming questions about recent drone sightings, suggesting they could be a distraction from more pressing military threats. Discover his insights in our latest post.

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[1LoverofGod]

18 Different Theories About The Mystery Drones That Are Appearing Along The East Coast From 18 Different People​

Why do drones keep invading U.S. airspace along the east coast night after night? Many people have asked me about this, and honestly I have not come to any definitive conclusions yet. But there are two things that appear to be quite clear. First of all, most of the drones that people are seeing are man-made drones. Secondly, the government seems to know a lot more about these drones than they are telling us. Hopefully we will get some solid answers soon, but for now lots of strange theories are flying around. Personally, I think that there are elements of the truth in a number of these theories, while others are just wild speculation.

In this article, I thought that I would share a large number of these theories. Read them for yourself and come to your own conclusions. The following are 18 different theories about the mystery drones that are appearing along the east coast from 18 different people…

#1 Donald Trump: “Our military knows, and our president knows, and for some reason they want to keep people in suspense,” he said during remarks at Mar-a-Lago on Monday. “Something strange is going on and for some reason they don’t want to tell the people. And they should.”

#2 James Howard Kunstler: The theory I lean toward is the notion that “Joe Biden” (meaning the DC blob) is desperately seeking some way to obstruct or fend-off the January 20th inauguration of Mr. Trump. Because, well, to put it bluntly, a whole lot of blobistas are worried about going to jail when the likes of Kash Patel, John Ratcliffe, Tulsi-G, and Pam Bondi get their mitts on the levers of power and start opening up the files. They’ve got thirty-five days to. . . to do something!

#3 DHS Secretary Alejandro Mayorkas: ‘In September of 2023, the Federal Aviation Administration, the FAA, changed the rules so that drones could fly at night,’ Mayorkas said.

‘And that may be one of the reasons why now people are seeing more drones than they did before, especially from dawn to dusk.’

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18 Different Theories About The Mystery Drones That Are Appearing Along The East Coast From 18 Different People

Why do drones keep invading U.S. airspace along the east coast night after night? Many people have asked me about this, and honestly I have not come to any definitive conclusions yet. But there are two things that appear to be quite clear. First of all, most of the drones that people are...

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[Tall Timbers]

Somebody has been shaking the nut tree.

Has anyone identified the alleged Iranian mothership off the Atlantic coast?

Are there any Iranian ships off any of our coasts?

 

[Shinobi]

Somebody has been shaking the nut tree.

Has anyone identified the alleged Iranian mothership off the Atlantic coast?

Are there any Iranian ships off any of our coasts?

Well that can be difficult unless you are on the water and see them with eyes on. Here is the reason why. Like planes using transponders there are sites where you can track planes. The problem is those sites can't track all planes. Certain small planes like experimental ones are not required to have transponders and some don't. Then there are tactical military aircraft, fighter or interceptor jets, helicopters, even some small propeller driven tactical surveillance planes. They are not required to have transponders on and most do not. On rare occasions you may see and F16 show up on the ADS-B systems or an F-18 but those are rare. Yet they fly every day of the week, yeah even weekends at times. Just ask anyone who lives near any air base, USAF, USN, USMC even US Army.

Now for ships on the oceans as well as inland water ways like the Mississippi or the intercostal canal, they use as system called AIS as opposed to ADS-B. It is based on similar transponders to planes. While there are sites for tracking ships and smaller vessels the same situation is true as not all vessels carry transponders and some that do don't always have them on. For certain you can't track the US carriers as they never transmit their location or even identity. Smaller Naval vessels also don't transmit their Ident nor location and travel info. But there are also many commercial and private vessels which either don't have transponders or transmit any information. Now the reason we never see say a carrier showing up on the AIS sites is simple intelligence security. Makes sense. So if the US as well as other major naval forces England, France, etc. don't transmit either then to think Iran would is to be a fool.

So given that we can't see them on AIS but drone control distances max our around 2.5 to 5. That means if they drift out of that range the controller can no longer reach them and they are likely to fall out of the sky as there is no signal to keep the motors running and they shut down. Now that is in the commercial variants even those considered long range. For military especially those like QR4s and QR9s those can be flown around the world launched from the US and flow to places like eastern Europe or the Middle east. But those use fancy and very expensive satellite relays for the drone pilots to control them. Smaller versions like the ones Iran builds and sells to Russia are a bit shorter range of hundreds of miles not thousands. Again often times satellites are involved when they fly over the horizon. Even so if the pilot flying the drone has a very powerful transmitter say in the 50k watt range you can reach distances of well into the hundreds of miles. As a kid on the Gulf coast late at night we could pick up 50K watt radio stations out of Mexico. They were not using satellites in those days. So it is possible.

So if flight over the horizon is possible an Iranian ship could be a few hundred miles off shore which is why people would thing them coming up out of the ocean as they see them rise up over the horizon and never seeing the vessel they were launched from. So with that in mind marking off an area 300 miles wide following the east coast of the US I checked every ship on the AIS tracking sites I use. Not one was listed as Iranian flagged. Does not mean they were there just they were not transmitting AIS data. Yet the numbers of vessels there doing just regular moving of goods would still see them and report that in their ship logs which can be easily checked by the Coast Guard who also has large vessels as well as smaller ones patrolling the entire US coast lines to several hundreds of miles off shore.

Now it may be the news people don't know enough to check the Coast Guard but since we have not seen anything allegedly from the Coast Guard on such foreign vessels then chances are high they just aren't there other wise the US military and Coast Guard would be surveilling those vessels and the clues would show up in other ways. I have not seen any of that in the many times I have checked. Finally we have surveillance aircraft that can track items down to the size of tennis ball and at present such air craft are not seen in plentiful numbers around the US coast line above normal flight training levels that were well established long before the first drones were noticed.

Lastly given that the most significant number of drones that are being seen and even slightly verified as drones are of the quadcopter or octalcopter varieties and they don't have the flight range of hundreds of miles nor the flight time to fly from great distances off shore and then spend long times over various facilities which points to they are launched from on shore and in close proximity. Also given how various events get lives of their own if they become internet sensations the likelihood of many joining into to play along indicated by the number of actual smaller quadcoter style drones are likely people playing hoax as opposed to foreign adversaries flying in US air space. Foreign agents on the ground in the US could do it but they run into the ability of officials to triangulate and track them down to their place of control with ease that most do not even know is possible. The more powerful the transmitter and such is needed for distance and time of flight makes being located very easy for officials.

But the idea of some Iranian mother ship seems to be fanciful thoughts of either someone on the internet or some news person who has little back ground in things of this nature or even of military nature. I would not put any faith in such claims. I would give them less than 0.01% chance of being legit.

 

[Work4Peanuts]

This is possibly relevant to our discussions:

High Levels of Radiation Detected Across the East Coast After Mysterious Drone Sightings

townhall.com

I would love to hear from our resident engineers on this.

 

[Shinobi]

This is possibly relevant to our discussions:

High Levels of Radiation Detected Across the East Coast After Mysterious Drone Sightings

townhall.com

I would love to hear from our resident engineers on this.

When I go look at the online map which is not accurate as people have the ability to put in as many so called level changes as they choose there is not but I see only 3 places showing any elevation in radiation levels and those are not all that much at this time 8 am PST 12-27-2024.

 

[Shinobi]

More to why I think a lot of drone activity is just people messing around. The below article from the Stars and Stripes news paper mentions my old home in SW Japan. It has always been a hot bed of Communist activity as they love to stir up trouble at the base as well as in Hiroshima just up the road on the Aug. 6 Memorials at Peace Park. In the old days it would not likely have been much of a problem but in rencent years Japan and the US came to the agreement to use the runway on the base for commercial flights as well. So the Japanese built a small terminal on the edge of the base near the north gate for civilians to fly in and out of it. My wife has flown through there because it gives her easy public access to her home in western Hiroshima. But the fact that suddenly the drones show up when commercial flights are trying to land but never when military flights are going in and out leans to the fact that commercial flights are publicly available but military flights are not. Now the article does not specifically mention this is the case but because this has the potential to cause an accident with civil aircraft it is being reported. If it was not a problem except for military aircraft chances are it would not be in the news and only show up in social media by those who have seen it or recorded it. Likewise in England I have seen a good list of USAF bases that are have said to have drone activity but several of those I have not been able to verify so I am guessing maybe the actual numbers are being enlarged. At the same time I have seen that there appears to have been only 2 case in Germany. Now if these were from some Iranian mother ship then those flying to Japan, England and Germany are flying a very long way.

But lets say there are nefarious actors on the ground in England, Germany, Japan and even they US as some reports have come out of Camp Pendleton in California as well but they don't say where on the base but I suspect in those areas outside the fence where it is open country where people can sneak up and get close. Anyway as I read the article it sounds scary because one flight had to divert after waiting a long time to land due to low fuel state. The Japanese take such events very seriously and are likely doing a very detailed investigation. We may never know how that turns out but I am sure if they catch someone that person or persons will wished they hadn't been so stupid. Japanese jails are not nice places to live.

Anyway given the number of US bases around Japan and only two that have made claim of drone activity and both of those close the sea chances are they are being flown in off private boats which is something the Communist party is big on in Japan as a means of protesting. Even if it is not them given the nature of kids these days in Japan compared to when I was there chance are high that kids are just out messing around not realizing the dangers they are creating. I mean as teen ager I used to race on city streets. I won't do it now because I have learned of the many dangers of that but as a kid I thought I would live for ever and was a better driver than most. The only reason I survived is because God did not let me fall prey to my own stupidity. So Like Japan, and Germany as well as the US there are many more military facilities to which there has been no drone activity which is strange. I asked my old Company Commander who he and his wife are both retired army and live near Ft. Reilly KS if they have had any sightings. He said not near him and he was going over in to Missouri today to Ft. Lenordwood and would check with the base officials there to see if they have. Yet down the west side of Missouri are a number of missile sites that are fairly well known and none of them are reporting sightings either. So it begs the question why are they only showing up in certain places associated with military and/or energy infrastructure but not in other places. Makes taking this seriously hard to do.

Here is the article from Stars and Stripes: Drone reports close airport at US air base in Japan, divert passenger flight

 

[Hol]

@Shinobi had you heard any news or rumors the a Coast Guard patrol near NJ had been followed by several drones? It would have been a few weeks ago.