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Is President Trump the Antichrist?

CharlesW

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I believe that Donald Trump is the Antichrist and feel the need to share my concerns.

President Trump has corrupted the Christian values of pastors, politicians and ordinary citizens and he has caused the neediest among us to suffer. Internationally, he has aligned himself with the world's most cruel leaders.

It is clear to me that President Trump is not a true believer. He did thank God for the prophetic survival of an attempt on his life. However, he never attends church, he refused to quote a favorite Bible passage when asked to do so, and he has recently filled his Oval Office golden idols. Most important, would he lie so easily, give such hateful speeches, and make vindictive promises of retribution if he ever asked "What Would Jesus Do?"

I hear President Trump described as an imperfect messiah. Being the Antichrist seems more believable. If you seek a seat in heaven then you may have to make a choice. Support him and risk losing it, or play it safe like me and keep your distance.
 
I believe that Donald Trump is the Antichrist and feel the need to share my concerns.

President Trump has corrupted the Christian values of pastors, politicians and ordinary citizens and he has caused the neediest among us to suffer. Internationally, he has aligned himself with the world's most cruel leaders.

It is clear to me that President Trump is not a true believer. He did thank God for the prophetic survival of an attempt on his life. However, he never attends church, he refused to quote a favorite Bible passage when asked to do so, and he has recently filled his Oval Office golden idols. Most important, would he lie so easily, give such hateful speeches, and make vindictive promises of retribution if he ever asked "What Would Jesus Do?"

I hear President Trump described as an imperfect messiah. Being the Antichrist seems more believable. If you seek a seat in heaven then you may have to make a choice. Support him and risk losing it, or play it safe like me and keep your distance.
Donald Trump does have his faults but i wouldn't go labelling him as the antichrist nor judge him whether he is saved or not.
 
I'm pretty sure my seat in heaven is guaranteed by what Christ did not by anything I do once I've accepted Him. And respectfully, most people voted for a president not a savior. Surely a vote for a man who stands against the murder of little children, corruption in government, and, among other evil things being taught to our children, the idea of transgenderism, and who stands for peace, prosperity and personal freedoms is not a vote for anything against God or His Word. Quite the opposite, I would suggest. And given the choice in the last election, I don't think there was any other option for Christians. To not have voted would have allowed open evil to occupy the White House and further do irreparable harm to this nation.

What Donald Trump turns out to be is a matter for the future. But, based on his first 4 years and what he is setting out to do now I do not see evil as his intention. But of course the Antichrist will at first appear benign, saying and doing all the right things. There is no doubt that the AC is alive in the world today and active. But, according to 2 Thessalonians 2:6-8, no one will know who he is until he is revealed after the Church has been raptured.

Certainly very few people are neutral about thus president. Everybody has a different view of the man: some positive and some negative. And I have no problem with that. However, here in this fellowship the emphasis is on Christ and what He has done for us and how we should live in this current age as we find ourselves in the end of the end times. We try not to focus on those things that divide us, unless they are erroneous interpretations of scripture. And then we engage in discussion to seek a better understanding of God's Word to us.

I notice you are a brand new member. I encourage you to explore and engage in our prayer and praise section, our worship, comfort and encouragement section, and all of the other aspects of this fellowship. God uses each of us to help the others as we are being built up into what He called each one of us to be-- faithful servants.
 
Many leaders throughout history have been seen as Antichrist and it's been because those leaders had things about them that some would see as evil about them. Many of those leaders who have been thought to be Antichrist have come and gone. As a matter of fact John being the only one who uses the term Antichrist says there are many antichrists. But only one final Antichrist.

"Little children, it is the last hour; and as you have heard that the Antichrist is coming, even now many antichrists have come, by which we know that it is the last hour."
1 John 2:19

Some people may not like some things about him, but that doesn't make him The Antichrist.

Knowing scripture, in particular prophecy, The Antichrist cannot appear until the start of the Tribulation depicted as the rider on the white horse.
We are not in the Tribulation.
According to 2 Thessalonians chapter 2, The Antichrist isn't revealed until after the restrainer is removed when the church is Raptured.

Another thing is going by the prophecies of Daniel 7 and Revelation 17, there has to be a one world government of ten kings in place first, and the Antichrist doesn't have power and authority to rule until the one world government gives him that power to rule.
There's no one world government yet and right now I don't see that world leaders are supportive of Trump other than Israel, and Israel isn't part of the coming one world government that gives power to The Antichrist, because it's Israel who will be persecuted by The Antichrist.
There's other reasons why Trump can't be The Antichrist but those alone is enough to prove he can't be.

I think as Christians we don't need to be looking for The Antichrist because we won't be here when he's revealed, but instead keep looking for the coming of Our Lord Jesus to come take us to heaven with Him.
 
No, President Trump is not the AntiChrist. He is not our savior. President Trump is a man that God allowed to be our president at this time in our nation’s history for his purposes. As many have said in other posts, God will use Trump as he sees fit and I believe he will further Bible Prophecy through how we help or hurt Israel.
 
I believe that Donald Trump is the Antichrist and feel the need to share my concerns.
No. president Trump is not the Antichrist.
He can't be, because the AC won't be revealed until the Restrainer is out of the way.

Could he become the AC?
Yes, it is possible, but we don't judge or revile people on how they will/might become.

And yes, we can worry, and keep a close eye on everything happening in the world.
But let's bring our concerns to the throne of God, and leave it in His capable hands.
 
Rubbish. Everyone knows Trump is literally Hitler, for the media tells us so.

Let's Google... On Easter, Trump posted — and this is a copy/paste, so it may not be complete, but:

"Melania and I join in prayer with Christians celebrating the crucifixion and resurrection of our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ—the living Son of God who conquered death, freed us from sin, and unlocked the gates of Heaven for all of humanity.

This Holy Week, my Administration renews its promise to defend the Christian faith in our schools, military, workplaces, hospitals, and halls of government. We will never waver in safeguarding the right to religious liberty, upholding the dignity of life, and protecting God in our public square.

Melania and I would like to wish everyone a very Happy Easter! Whether you are heading out to Church or, watching Service from home, may this day be full of Peace and Joy for all who celebrate the Resurrection of Jesus Christ. HE IS RISEN!!

Now, maybe he didn't mean it, maybe he had his writers put it together, maybe it was the Autopen. But most people who wouldn't mean it wouldn't even bother saying something like this. I'm sure the literal Antichrist would not even dream of it.

Let's compare some of what the Bible says about the AC:

Daniel writes: He will show no regard for the gods of his fathers, nor for the one desired by women*, nor for any other god, because he will magnify himself above them all. *ie, the Messiah.

Paul adds: Let no one deceive you in any way, for it will not come until the rebellion occurs and the man of lawlessness—the son of destruction—is revealed. He will oppose and exalt himself above every so-called god or object of worship. So he will seat himself in the temple of God, proclaiming himself to be God.

One of these things is not like the other.
 
Yes, according to Revelation 13, the whole world will exceedingly admire and follow the Antichrist and the world Empire he leads.

Quite the opposite of what we're seeing today. Today there's great resistance, calls for murdering our president and continued disparegement of him.

Given that Trump is so hated by the whole world, which is influenced by Satan, to me puts Trump completely out as a contender for Antichrist.

Additionally, since the Holy Spirit is still here within the church on earth, still restraining, the Antichrist cannot be revealed yet either. That seems to suggest guesses are also fruitless.
 
Speaking of Antichrists wannabe candidates, have you guys seen this bloke on yt and social media etc :the guy claimed 10,000 different titles from Judaism, Islam and Christianity and then backflipped LOL

 
Speaking of Antichrists wannabe candidates, have you guys seen this bloke on yt and social media etc :the guy claimed 10,000 different titles from Judaism, Islam and Christianity and then backflipped LOL

Yes!! I caught wind of him yesterday. Glad you brought him up too, I didn’t really know how to share it without looking like I am posting falsities. This guy is capturing a lot of attention at the moment!
 
I believe that Donald Trump is the Antichrist and feel the need to share my concerns.

President Trump has corrupted the Christian values of pastors, politicians and ordinary citizens and he has caused the neediest among us to suffer. Internationally, he has aligned himself with the world's most cruel leaders.

It is clear to me that President Trump is not a true believer. He did thank God for the prophetic survival of an attempt on his life. However, he never attends church, he refused to quote a favorite Bible passage when asked to do so, and he has recently filled his Oval Office golden idols. Most important, would he lie so easily, give such hateful speeches, and make vindictive promises of retribution if he ever asked "What Would Jesus Do?"

Salvation is not based on our works. Jesus' atoning death and resurrection are enough. It's not Jesus plus anything. To even think we can do anything to help get our Salvation is presumptuous and prideful, and takes some of the glory away from Christ.

Salvation is a gift from God and is bestowed in mercy and grace, even though we do not deserve it. Free to us, but oh, so costly to God.

Salvation is in accordance with the Scriptures (Holy Bible), by faith in Jesus Christ alone, by the grace of God, to the glory of God alone.

Regardless of what President Trump does or doesn't do, unless he commits the unpardonable sin, if he's saved, he's saved, regardless of his deeds.
Whether or not President Trump is saved is between him and God, but based on what he's said, I do think he is.

President Trump doesn't need to go to church to prove he's a Christian. Security for the President attending church would tend to disrupt everyone's worship and the sanctity of the Sanctuary, and be a major inconvenience to everyone else in the congregation, plus the Pastor, staff, volunteers, etc. He might not go out of respect for other people.

He also doesn't have to quote a favorite verse to humor someone. He may not have a favorite verse. Or maybe his favorite verse is personal and it might reveal something private about him or a family member that should remain private. What if it's something from the Song of Solomon that's personal, private, and special between him and his wife? That's no one else's business.

As far as gold idols, so what if he's decorated with a bunch of expensive gold trinkets. No different than someone decorating with inexpensive, drab items. President Trump likes to project an image of wealth, success, and power, and his tastes in publicly-viewable decor reflect that. It's very important that the President project whatever image he (or she) thinks is best to get the job done. I don't think what President Trump has put in the Oval Office qualifies as idols in the sense of the deities the Hindus and other pagans worship, and I seriously doubt President Trump thinks of any of it as living or capable of fulfilling requests, etc.


1 And you hath he quickened, who were dead in trespasses and sins;
2 Wherein in time past ye walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that now worketh in the children of disobedience:
3 Among whom also we all had our conversation in times past in the lusts of our flesh, fulfilling the desires of the flesh and of the mind; and were by nature the children of wrath, even as others.
4 But God, who is rich in mercy, for his great love wherewith he loved us,
5 Even when we were dead in sins, hath quickened us together with Christ, (by grace ye are saved;)
6 And hath raised us up together, and made us sit together in heavenly places in Christ Jesus:
7 That in the ages to come he might shew the exceeding riches of his grace in his kindness toward us through Christ Jesus.
8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
9 Not of works, lest any man should boast.

Ephesians 2:1-9, KJV


19 Now we know that what things soever the law saith, it saith to them who are under the law: that every mouth may be stopped, and all the world may become guilty before God.
20 Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sight: for by the law is the knowledge of sin.
21 But now the righteousness of God without the law is manifested, being witnessed by the law and the prophets;
22 Even the righteousness of God which is by faith of Jesus Christ unto all and upon all them that believe: for there is no difference:
23 For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;
24 Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus:
25 Whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God;
26 To declare, I say, at this time his righteousness: that he might be just, and the justifier of him which believeth in Jesus.
27 Where is boasting then? It is excluded. By what law? of works? Nay: but by the law of faith.
28 Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith without the deeds of the law.

Romans 3:19-28, KJV

16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.
18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.
John 3:16-18, KJV


I hear President Trump described as an imperfect messiah. Being the Antichrist seems more believable. If you seek a seat in heaven then you may have to make a choice. Support him and risk losing it, or play it safe like me and keep your distance.

The Scriptures are very clear that we should respect and obey our leaders, and give what belongs to God to God, and what belongs to the government to the government, and that we are to pray for our leaders.


15 Then went the Pharisees, and took counsel how they might entangle him in his talk.
16 And they sent out unto him their disciples with the Herodians, saying, Master, we know that thou art true, and teachest the way of God in truth, neither carest thou for any man: for thou regardest not the person of men.
17 Tell us therefore, What thinkest thou? Is it lawful to give tribute unto Caesar, or not?
18 But Jesus perceived their wickedness, and said, Why tempt ye me, ye hypocrites?
19 Shew me the tribute money. And they brought unto him a penny.
20 And he saith unto them, Whose is this image and superscription?
21 They say unto him, Caesar's. Then saith he unto them, Render therefore unto Caesar the things which are Caesar's; and unto God the things that are God's.
22 When they had heard these words, they marvelled, and left him, and went their way.
Matthew 22:15-22, KJV

1 Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers. For there is no power but of God: the powers that be are ordained of God.
2 Whosoever therefore resisteth the power, resisteth the ordinance of God: and they that resist shall receive to themselves damnation.
3 For rulers are not a terror to good works, but to the evil. Wilt thou then not be afraid of the power? do that which is good, and thou shalt have praise of the same:
4 For he is the minister of God to thee for good. But if thou do that which is evil, be afraid; for he beareth not the sword in vain: for he is the minister of God, a revenger to execute wrath upon him that doeth evil.
5 Wherefore ye must needs be subject, not only for wrath, but also for conscience sake.
6 For for this cause pay ye tribute also: for they are God's ministers, attending continually upon this very thing.
7 Render therefore to all their dues: tribute to whom tribute is due; custom to whom custom; fear to whom fear; honour to whom honour.
Romans 13:1-7, KJV

17 Obey them that have the rule over you, and submit yourselves: for they watch for your souls, as they that must give account, that they may do it with joy, and not with grief: for that is unprofitable for you.
Hebrews 13:17, KJV

1 I exhort therefore, that, first of all, supplications, prayers, intercessions, and giving of thanks, be made for all men;
2 For kings, and for all that are in authority; that we may lead a quiet and peaceable life in all godliness and honesty.
3 For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Saviour;
1 Timothy 2:1-3, KJV


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