Immediately after the Rapture

[mattfivefour]

When the dust settles and the family and friends of Christians realize what happened, I expect 2 responses from them- The bulk will likely harden against God further, and consciously decide to believe the lie (whether aliens or other explanations). The few will get saved over the next little while.

Marge, I really liked your article as a whole; but I tend to disagree with what you wrote above regarding "the few will get saved over the next little while." I think based on my understanding of human nature and of Revelation 7:9 that there will be a huge number saved ... many of them right after the Rapture, especially among those who had the witness of family and friends in the years before we disappeared. I could be wrong, but it seems logical to me. I certainly hope I'm not wrong, because the longer our loved ones reject the truth after the Rapture, the harder it will be for them to be saved.

 

[Andy C]

Marge, I really liked your article as a whole; but I tend to disagree with what you wrote above regarding "the few will get saved over the next little while." I think based on my understanding of human nature and of Revelation 7:9 that there will be a huge number saved ... many of them right after the Rapture, especially among those who had the witness of family and friends in the years before we disappeared. I could be wrong, but it seems logical to me. I certainly hope I'm not wrong, because the longer our loved ones reject the truth after the Rapture, the harder it will be for them to be saved.

Agree. There will be a huge harvest within days, or even hours after the rapture. All those unsaved family members, and friends, will notice which of their friends and relatives are missing. When the common denominator shows it to be Christians, they will remember the words spoken to them by their Christian friends, and maybe, they were even told about the coming rapture. Still, some will have their hearts hardened even more so than before.

We cant know from scripture how much time there is after the rapture before the tribulation begins. Could be minutes, days, weeks, possibly a year or more. Regardless of how long, the time for the left behind to become saved will become increasingly harder once the judgements begin, and the AC goes on a murdering rampage.

 

[Tall Timbers]

Agree. There will be a huge harvest within days, or even hours after the rapture. All those unsaved family members, and friends, will notice which of their friends and relatives are missing. When the common denominator shows it to be Christians, they will remember the words spoken to them by their Christian friends, and maybe, they were even told about the coming rapture. Still, some will have their hearts hardened even more so than before.

We cant know from scripture how much time there is after the rapture before the tribulation begins. Could be minutes, days, weeks, possibly a year or more. Regardless of how long, the time for the left behind to become saved will become increasingly harder once the judgements begin, and the AC goes on a murdering rampage.

I wonder how many will have heard much if anything about the Rapture. A few of us can't keep our mouths shut on the topic, but leave that circle of Watchers and you don't hear much about it.

 

[Amethyst]

I wonder how many will have heard much if anything about the Rapture. A few of us can't keep our mouths shut on the topic, but leave that circle of Watchers and you don't hear much about it

My thoughts exactly. Many people will not have heard of it (at least in a biblical truth of it) and then if they do, will think "hogwash."

 

[Tall Timbers]

I do believe there will be a huge harvest during the Tribulation years, the Bible tells us so. There will likely be some who recognize that the disappearance was the Rapture of Christians they heard about. For most, I imagine, they'll choose Jesus over all the evil that they're seeing and experiencing around them everyday. When Christians start getting executed for merely being Christians, I think that'll have a huge effect on many, leading them to choose Christ.

The angel(s) proclaiming the gospel and warning the world of judgment along with the 144,000 may well be what reaps the majority of the harvest.

Meanwhile the majority will revel in evil for as long as they can.

 

[Andy C]

The angel(s) proclaiming the gospel and warning the world of judgment along with the 144,000 may well be what reaps the majority of the harvest.

Meanwhile the

Perhaps, but the Angels flying giving their warnings are at or near the middle of the tribulation, not immediately after the rapture.

I disagree with the Angels causing the majority of the new believers because those unbelievers still alive 3.5 years in, have likely already aligned with the new world leader.(AC)

The unbelievers immediately after the rapture will be ripe for harvest when their Christians friends/spouses/relatives/coworkers….have all disappeared. JMHO.

 

[Tall Timbers]

I disagree with the Angels causing the majority of the new believers because those unbelievers still alive 3.5 years in

My statement was the angels along with the 144,000 as opposed to just the angels. I think many will be saved in the last 3.5 years as well, though not as many as the first 3.5 years.

 

[Andy C]

My statement was the angels along with the 144,000 as opposed to just the angels. I think many will be saved in the last 3.5 years as well, though not as many as the first 3.5 years.

Ok, thanks for clarification. My old brain is catching yours… Yes, you could certainly be right, but glad we wont be here to see which view is correct!

 

[Tall Timbers]

Ok, thanks for clarification. My old brain is catching yours… Yes, you could certainly be right, but glad we wont be here to see which view is correct!

My old brain is still in fine working order... ... ... so what were we discussing?

 

[AnyMinute]

I really have no idea what will ensue in the immediate aftermath of the rapture.
If I were to speculate, I agree with the previous posts that there will likely be despair, horror, and carnage everywhere that have a large percentage of believers in their society. The removal of the One who is restraining now will eventually and I think rather quickly, spread throughout the whole world.
Even places that have very few believers are still benefiting from the restraining power of full evil being unleashed now, so when the Church goes I can imagine worldwide chaos rather quickly.

Now having experienced and watched some of the effects of worldwide governments tyrannical overreach lately, I wonder what if the rapture were to occur during a so called national/world emergency event. Maybe an orchestrated long term lock down with say extended power outages. There could be few means of communication. No phones, no internet and I can imagine the reality of what took place being able to be hidden or covered up. A lot of evil things are done in the cover of darkness, both literal and figurative darkness. Of course those who are eyewitnesses could testify (maybe) but in this world now we are being conditioned to not believe our eyes and ears.

I tend to lean towards a small gap between the rapture and the start of the trib. But any amount of time that is given to those left behind is still time within Gods grace and mercy for more to repent.
Yes those who have heard but rejected the Truth might come to faith but I'm not convinced even that will drive a huge number to receive His salvation.
I think the judgements of God being poured out might wake more up if they haven't already been hardened by the delusion. The two witnesses, the 144,000 and the angel proclaiming the everlasting gospel (and combined all that they reach) I believe will create the biggest harvest of believers.
Many will die for that new found faith, many will populate the Millennial Kingdom.

ETA: I see you two, Andy and TT, have already worked out the finer points while I was 2 finger pecking at my keyboard.

 

[Tall Timbers]

There have been a few times when I could sense evil in the air. Once in Bogota Colombia when riots were on the cusp of breaking out, once in the former Yugoslavia during the civil war, and I sensed it in Washington D.C. when Clinton and his people moved in to take over the administration.

It's a dark and ominous feeling one senses, it is hard to explain. I expect that sense of darkness/evil will exist around the whole world immediately after the Rapture. Some will not like it, others will feed on it.

 

[AnyMinute]

It's a dark and ominous feeling one senses, it is hard to explain. I expect that sense of darkness/evil will exist around the whole world immediately after the Rapture. Some will not like it, others will feed on it.

I agree. How could the restraining work of the Holy Spirit being lifted not result in oppressive darkness/evil?!

 

[Andy C]

World wide chaos, untold number of deaths as a direct result of the rapture….Planes pilotless, cars crashing with no drivers…..etc…Looting will commence right away. Evil unleashed that had previously been held back. Think how evil the world has become in our lifetime, its unimaginable how evil it will become after the Holy Spirit stops restraining.

Another area I think about is if the Age of Accountability is true, and all children under a certain age will be raptured. If this is true, then all countries will feel the devastation not just those countries with a higher percentage of Christians.

 

[AnyMinute]

Agree. There will be a huge harvest within days, or even hours after the rapture. All those unsaved family members, and friends, will notice which of their friends and relatives are missing. When the common denominator shows it to be Christians, they will remember the words spoken to them by their Christian friends, and maybe, they were even told about the coming rapture. Still, some will have their hearts hardened even more so than before.

We cant know from scripture how much time there is after the rapture before the tribulation begins. Could be minutes, days, weeks, possibly a year or more. Regardless of how long, the time for the left behind to become saved will become increasingly harder once the judgements begin, and the AC goes on a murdering rampage.

You could be absolutely correct, I don't discount what you and Adrian have pointed out. There could be a tremendous harvest of souls, I pray so. I, like many others, have lost loved ones that just refuse to accept the truth that I hope may come to their senses immediately after the rapture.

I just have to acknowledge that even now, while the indwelt, empowered Church is still here, there is still a vast majority who reject Jesus and His only way of salvation. We have vast knowledge, resources and incredible means of communication, never available before, yet most are still on that broad way that leads to destruction. We are here now, the Holy Spirit is still calling and convicting, God is still holding back His righteous judgement so that more can be added yet the closer we get to the tribulation, the more we see absolute mockery and rejection.

When I consider all this, I'm not sure how our removal along with the removal of the Holy Spirits indwelling and His restraining influence over evil is going to cause a vast number of people to repent. But I do pray it does!

The 2 witnesses, the 144,000 and an angel proclaiming the gospel convinces me more that His method described during the trib, rather than our absence, will result in a great harvest.

Of course this is all just speculation so really IDK.

 

[Andy C]

You could be absolutely correct, I don't discount what you and Adrian have pointed out. There could be a tremendous harvest of souls, I pray so. I, like many others, have lost loved ones that just refuse to accept the truth that I hope may come to their senses immediately after the rapture.

I just have to acknowledge that even now, while the indwelt, empowered Church is still here, there is still a vast majority who reject Jesus and His only way of salvation. We have vast knowledge, resources and incredible means of communication, never available before, yet most are still on that broad way that leads to destruction. We are here now, the Holy Spirit is still calling and convicting, God is still holding back His righteous judgement so that more can be added yet the closer we get to the tribulation, the more we see absolute mockery and rejection.

When I consider all this, I'm not sure how our removal along with the removal of the Holy Spirits indwelling and His restraining influence over evil is going to cause a vast number of people to repent. But I do pray it does!

The 2 witnesses, the 144,000 and an angel proclaiming the gospel convinces me more that His method described during the trib, rather than our absence, will result in a great harvest.

Of course this is all just speculation so really IDK.

Think of a Christian spouse, married to a nonbeliever. Most likely the gospel was presented many times over years, and perhaps a brief mention of the rapture. What will the left behind spouse think of when their spouse is missing, along with millions of others? The same scenario would apply to other relatives, friends…etc. Some may not connect the dots right away, but I think many will. Its a pride thing, and they will swallow their pride once they accept the proof right before their very eyes.

Wishful thinking on my part? Perhaps, but I firmly believe the majority of the trib saints will become so at the beginning vice any other time during the terrible judgments. Scripture even states they will shake their fists at God for the suffering they are going through, but still remain with a hardened heart.

 

[Spartan Sprinter]

I was really disappointed in a few videos i've came across Sam Shamoun.

He's apologetic videos with muslims and religious jews are excellent in showing who Jesus is as messiah, however, i stumbled across his escatalogical views and they are way off.

He doesn't believe in the pre trib view and was debating a person that had doubts about the pretrib and had rung Sam to confirm whether the view was correct.

He stated that people misinterpret Dan 9:27 as being the length of time or validation for the tribulation being 7 years .

When i read the whole of Dan 9 i think that it's pretty black and white for their being a case that the tribulation lasts for that length of time

 

[Tall Timbers]

Think of a Christian spouse, married to a nonbeliever. Most likely the gospel was presented many times over years, and perhaps a brief mention of the rapture. What will the left behind spouse think of when their spouse is missing, along with millions of others? The same scenario would apply to other relatives, friends…etc. Some may not connect the dots right away, but I think many will. Its a pride thing, and they will swallow their pride once they accept the proof right before their very eyes.

Wishful thinking on my part? Perhaps, but I firmly believe the majority of the trib saints will become so at the beginning vice any other time during the terrible judgments. Scripture even states they will shake their fists at God for the suffering they are going through, but still remain with a hardened heart.

Many won't hear the brief mention of Rapture because a lot of Believers just aren't familiar with it.

Additionally, for those attending churches that aren't Raptured, many of the left behind attend churches that believe that man is eventually going to make everything hunky dory and when it's all good then Jesus will return. That false idea falls right inline with a global govmint and a leader that can fix everything and make everything right. When the churched who didn't leave in the Rapture are given an explanation by the powers that be many are likely to think things like "Yeah, that Uncle George was a bit of a wacko, no wonder the aliens took him and others like him".

Regardless of when folks get saved during Tribulation, it just really matters that they get saved and keep the faith until death or until Jesus Christ returns.

 

[Ghoti Ichthus]

There have been a few times when I could sense evil in the air. Once in Bogota Colombia when riots were on the cusp of breaking out, once in the former Yugoslavia during the civil war, and I sensed it in Washington D.C. when Clinton and his people moved in to take over the administration.

It's a dark and ominous feeling one senses, it is hard to explain. I expect that sense of darkness/evil will exist around the whole world immediately after the Rapture. Some will not like it, others will feed on it.

There's a horrific smell to it, as well.

The presence of evil can sometimes be seen in places with no Christians or Jewish people.

And the low-pitched buzzing sound that accompanies the call to blasphemy in some places is positively evil and repelling.

 

[Grace]

they will remember the words spoken to them by their Christian friends,

You can be sure of that. Nothing that we do from the heart in service to the Lord will be in vain. On my FB chronicle I have posted for friends and relatives 1. the gospel, 2. the timeline of the tribulation, 3. the warning of the mark. Since I am no longer active on fb, I will leave it online. Two groups for unbelievers are also filled up on fb with the above facts, comments deactivated, simply two info pages. And believe it or not, MANY unbelievers have registered there. Something sticks. And quite a few will undoubtedly remember our warnings. I've been working hard since 2020 to translate this stuff into other languages. Now I'm just tired and want to go home to our beloved Lord and Savior.

For the first person to enter my apartment after the Rapture, I have left a letter with everything he needs to know.

After us, the two witnesses, the 144,000 Jewish evangelists and an angel flying through the heaven will proclaim the gospel, and a great harvest will be reaped.

 

[Hol]

I was really disappointed in a few videos i've came across Sam Shamoun.

He's apologetic videos with muslims and religious jews are excellent in showing who Jesus is as messiah, however, i stumbled across his escatalogical views and they are way off.

He doesn't believe in the pre trib view and was debating a person that had doubts about the pretrib and had rung Sam to confirm whether the view was correct.

I like Sam too, but like David Wood they lean Calvanist (who teaches the church = Israel and there is no pre-mil rapture).