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Trump Threatens Musk’s Contracts, Musk Hits Back With Epstein Files

This just makes me wonder what important stuff is being buried as everyone looks at this dog and pony show. Silliness. I know there was a financial report due out yesterday or today- maybe it will still make it out but if this is the Friday end of the week news cycle and it's still on stupidity - I don't imagine any serious news will surface, even if it should.
Yes, that video I posted in this thread from ReallyGraceful touches on that notice. Its only a 10 minute video. You might like her channel. She is YouTube oldschool. It is the post in this thread were I start off by saying: "This is a 10 minute video of a youtube veteran i have grown to love for almost a decade now." <3
 
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Just as i seen this post i just finished watching a britt gillette video about how japans economy is up the duff so to speak and the ripple on effect it will havr on the global economy.
We'll have to see brother. I know much of evangelicalism leans toward economic havoc in end times. I am more thinking what exults Israel to power and safety. And that would seem to be the USA for now. Hopefully we have a better economic outlook for a bit. I know the liberal news in America reports quite a bit on bad financial weather. In just generic Japan news, not seeing too much in terms of financial dissaray. Any article in particular though brother? Blessings.
 
We'll have to see brother. I know much of evangelicalism leans toward economic havoc in end times. I am more thinking what exults Israel to power and safety. And that would seem to be the USA for now. Hopefully we have a better economic outlook for a bit. I know the liberal news in America reports quite a bit on bad financial weather. In just generic Japan news, not seeing too much in terms of financial dissaray. Any article in particular though brother? Blessings.
Nah brother , it was a video from britt Gillette, if you got time you can check it out

 
Nah brother , it was a video from britt Gillette, if you got time you can check it out

Thanks Spartan. Yeah when i reread you comment again i'm like, "Duh, go find the video." lol. I just watched it now before seeing you had replied. I was just about to post it as penance (not that i am into that--just a joke).

Wow. Yeah i had seen this guy before. Very solid. I appreciate the insights. Its sober moments like these that really help consider my own views because I don't generally go where this video goes at all...lol. Which is probably pretty sad of me...lol. i don't have a lot to report from some of my alternative perspectives because of some concerns with a friend of mine, I kind of lost the appetite. Sometimes i get pretty fed up with myself, lol.

It's not like it likely sounds. My friend was upset over some Trump issues like a few weeks ago. And i meant to comfort him by reminding him it is likely end times, so why let all that bother you to the degree you do. And he kind of took a person jab at me that somewhat shocked me. This is a friend that has started to slowly consider the times we are in. He would likely think end times is 50 to 100 years out there. And I don't try to push my views too much at all because he is far more center on the social media matters. He is a believer, but can be rather insulting at times. I've know him for like 30 years...lots of baggage...lol. But I just said the end time thing meant kind of in fun, but more to the point of not wanting him to be so stressed. i have issues with Trump quite on the regular. So i get that. But it was meant to help him lighten up or maybe even laugh. It did not end so well.

So its times like that i like to take inventory. And even though i have a reasonable appetite for tracking events and views, some thing like that can tend to reset me for a time. And so normally at this point in light of this really great video you shared, I have like 0 research from my general views in surrounding context. This is a pretty significant video to run into without my context...lol...feel like i need my Linus blanket. But I'm grateful actually to come across something like raw too though. Because regardless of what my views "might" be, its good to just sit with something like this. Amen. So again Spartan, thanks.

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Because i don't do as much exploratory work in the ways of approach this excellent video has taken on, it is rare I will spend too much time in consideration thereof. So I would hope that my amount and level of feedback please be considered in honor of you post and the sincere well research info it provides. The amount of feedback here is meant as a compliment. Not an argument. A sincere reflection of my heart upon this video and related matters. For even with my somewhat differing takeaways, tht in no wise will leave me without considerable sober thought in appreciation of what is highlighted here. I will be considering these kinds of matters for days to come because of its humble and honest delivery. Please know that. So in that spirit do i share where something like this leaves me for the moment. A place in heart that will honestly and sincerely ponder the weighty concerns contained in this video. I will be considering them for days, amen. And it is with that heart and spirit I share the following, in full respect and honor of none of us knowing how linkage of this kind works or its eventual timing. Amen.

There are some general points those of confuse somewhat on the approaches from this videos perspective though. Please keep in mind that generically, I came from this school of eschatology too. It almost does not matter how he frames it. What is, is. And that is bad enough. And i understand the encouragement by which he does desire to frame it in. So for me to go back to a default evangelical watcher view i had in past years is almost 2nd nature in me. And if these are the kinds of things that don't change but increase, it would not be likely my alt view has any business in consideration. And for very different reasons, share with Brother Chooch at Think Out Loud youtube ministries and check myself into a looney bin...lol. He literally said that, yes. If no rapture by mid 2027.

So here are the things that are kind of confusing to me in this humble godly man's approach with this very well researched and displayed detail. If what is coming is the largest financial world collapse, I suppose that could occur and a famine seal 3 come later. And be even more dramatic. I get that that can happen. Or it could be looking onto the horizon of what may become or play into a seal 3. This would typically be the hook-line-and sinker way i would have thought generally. If analysis stopped there, I might not even have any comment. Because the potential of something like I just mentioned along with the reality Japan is in now (and America), makes complete sense of where end time literal game theory goes. Even with what i about to share, still does not necessarily shake or negate that concern in me.

But what almost like clockwork has me somewhat recoil from how this situation is frame (aside from the gospel call to: He is near, amen), is how the video content creator can be so articulately aware with such great research in our present moment and then place it into a tribulation midterm context. The reason this is a red flag for me, is not holdings to my own views. If they are bunk, I would dispose of them easily. Not without remorse, some pain, and embarrassment. But its just a view. The red flag in things like this for me is the hyperlinking to Revelation without the same kind of thoughtful unfolding we are blessed with in this mans presentation. Now I am sure he has other videos where he fills in a lot more and the focus here is just the current subject of Japan, amen. And there are believers in the household of God that see Rev 13 as the beginning of the tribulation (I view it as an overview in part of some past history leading to the hyper focus of the midpoint). So there is that. I don't sense this brother has that view, but i don't really know for sure.

But where this gets problematic for me is that there is 3 years + of tribulation events prior to the AC rule. Where to place AC influence exactly on the way to the midpoint will have many varying views. But because the judgements are linear, and because the 2 witnessed are killed by the trumpet 5 beast that comes out of the pit, It would be reasonable to see that the first half of the tribulation is seals and trumpets. And the second half bowls. If this is correct, that is quite a bit going on for the first 3.5 years. So to take what we are seeing now and stretch it throughout the whole first half of the tribulation ultimately linking it to AC rule is like a movie slowed paced throughout, and than 373 things happen in the last 5 minutes...lol. It just feels to me, well, not forced. But the exegetical consideration are not in proportion to the claim levels, to me it would seem.

So when i see that, that to me is asking too much. Would what is happening today have 0 connection? No. There could well likely be great connection. Especially if there is a global market crash and reset. To be fair, I am sure this brother just sees: financial collapse, authoritarianism starts to rise as the church soon raptures. And then the financial tribulation system falls into place. For him, it is that clear and obvious. And for most of us it would seem similar, amen. But with all the insane activity going on in the 1st half of the trib, aside from seal 3-5), finances and authoritarian rule kind of pale in comparison. At least to me.

Yes authoritarian rule would like produce many killed in the quarter of the world seal 5 persecution. But then we have the following:

  • Fire and brimstone rain
  • Massive trees and grass burn
  • Water spoils
  • Severly unhealthy Darkness
  • Psycho locusts attacking everyone
  • Profound demon presence on earth
  • A literal 3rd of the world killed in war of some strange kind

Like that is a lot going on where tyranny and financial hardships would be rather secondary to all of that though i would think. Then during the second half, yes we have the mark era, and great deception, but even at the point of the last bowl (Babylon the Great Fallen), there are great pockets and wealth and commerce noted at the time the world feels loss over Babylon. This is pretty near the end point of tribulation.

So I get to Japan financial to the tribulation makes sense on one level. And certainly in the warning of what is coming regardless of soon or later is totally merited. Its just too me potentially a reach. Which kind of takes the fun out of considering financial ruin with a rapture. I say that in jest. Its just that for me is somewhat like an exegetical inversion. We are talking about 3 very weighty things here. a) The state of the world and our neighbors commons, b) The word, and c) The oncoming worst 7 years the wolrd has ever and will ever see. I understand borrowing on the tribulation as reference points. But just noting where its impact, as sobering as we should take this, does leave a measure of connfusion for me.
 
Thanks Spartan. Yeah when i reread you comment again i'm like, "Duh, go find the video." lol. I just watched it now before seeing you had replied. I was just about to post it as penance (not that i am into that--just a joke).

Wow. Yeah i had seen this guy before. Very solid. I appreciate the insights. Its sober moments like these that really help consider my own views because I don't generally go where this video goes at all...lol. Which is probably pretty sad of me...lol. i don't have a lot to report from some of my alternative perspectives because of some concerns with a friend of mine, I kind of lost the appetite. Sometimes i get pretty fed up with myself, lol.

It's not like it likely sounds. My friend was upset over some Trump issues like a few weeks ago. And i meant to comfort him by reminding him it is likely end times, so why let all that bother you to the degree you do. And he kind of took a person jab at me that somewhat shocked me. This is a friend that has started to slowly consider the times we are in. He would likely think end times is 50 to 100 years out there. And I don't try to push my views too much at all because he is far more center on the social media matters. He is a believer, but can be rather insulting at times. I've know him for like 30 years...lots of baggage...lol. But I just said the end time thing meant kind of in fun, but more to the point of not wanting him to be so stressed. i have issues with Trump quite on the regular. So i get that. But it was meant to help him lighten up or maybe even laugh. It did not end so well.

So its times like that i like to take inventory. And even though i have a reasonable appetite for tracking events and views, some thing like that can tend to reset me for a time. And so normally at this point in light of this really great video you shared, I have like 0 research from my general views in surrounding context. This is a pretty significant video to run into without my context...lol...feel like i need my Linus blanket. But I'm grateful actually to come across something like raw too though. Because regardless of what my views "might" be, its good to just sit with something like this. Amen. So again Spartan, thanks.

. . . . . .

Because i don't do as much exploratory work in the ways of approach this excellent video has taken on, it is rare I will spend too much time in consideration thereof. So I would hope that my amount and level of feedback please be considered in honor of you post and the sincere well research info it provides. The amount of feedback here is meant as a compliment. Not an argument. A sincere reflection of my heart upon this video and related matters. For even with my somewhat differing takeaways, tht in no wise will leave me without considerable sober thought in appreciation of what is highlighted here. I will be considering these kinds of matters for days to come because of its humble and honest delivery. Please know that. So in that spirit do i share where something like this leaves me for the moment. A place in heart that will honestly and sincerely ponder the weighty concerns contained in this video. I will be considering them for days, amen. And it is with that heart and spirit I share the following, in full respect and honor of none of us knowing how linkage of this kind works or its eventual timing. Amen.

There are some general points those of confuse somewhat on the approaches from this videos perspective though. Please keep in mind that generically, I came from this school of eschatology too. It almost does not matter how he frames it. What is, is. And that is bad enough. And i understand the encouragement by which he does desire to frame it in. So for me to go back to a default evangelical watcher view i had in past years is almost 2nd nature in me. And if these are the kinds of things that don't change but increase, it would not be likely my alt view has any business in consideration. And for very different reasons, share with Brother Chooch at Think Out Loud youtube ministries and check myself into a looney bin...lol. He literally said that, yes. If no rapture by mid 2027.

So here are the things that are kind of confusing to me in this humble godly man's approach with this very well researched and displayed detail. If what is coming is the largest financial world collapse, I suppose that could occur and a famine seal 3 come later. And be even more dramatic. I get that that can happen. Or it could be looking onto the horizon of what may become or play into a seal 3. This would typically be the hook-line-and sinker way i would have thought generally. If analysis stopped there, I might not even have any comment. Because the potential of something like I just mentioned along with the reality Japan is in now (and America), makes complete sense of where end time literal game theory goes. Even with what i about to share, still does not necessarily shake or negate that concern in me.

But what almost like clockwork has me somewhat recoil from how this situation is frame (aside from the gospel call to: He is near, amen), is how the video content creator can be so articulately aware with such great research in our present moment and then place it into a tribulation midterm context. The reason this is a red flag for me, is not holdings to my own views. If they are bunk, I would dispose of them easily. Not without remorse, some pain, and embarrassment. But its just a view. The red flag in things like this for me is the hyperlinking to Revelation without the same kind of thoughtful unfolding we are blessed with in this mans presentation. Now I am sure he has other videos where he fills in a lot more and the focus here is just the current subject of Japan, amen. And there are believers in the household of God that see Rev 13 as the beginning of the tribulation (I view it as an overview in part of some past history leading to the hyper focus of the midpoint). So there is that. I don't sense this brother has that view, but i don't really know for sure.

But where this gets problematic for me is that there is 3 years + of tribulation events prior to the AC rule. Where to place AC influence exactly on the way to the midpoint will have many varying views. But because the judgements are linear, and because the 2 witnessed are killed by the trumpet 5 beast that comes out of the pit, It would be reasonable to see that the first half of the tribulation is seals and trumpets. And the second half bowls. If this is correct, that is quite a bit going on for the first 3.5 years. So to take what we are seeing now and stretch it throughout the whole first half of the tribulation ultimately linking it to AC rule is like a movie slowed paced throughout, and than 373 things happen in the last 5 minutes...lol. It just feels to me, well, not forced. But the exegetical consideration are not in proportion to the claim levels, to me it would seem.

So when i see that, that to me is asking too much. Would what is happening today have 0 connection? No. There could well likely be great connection. Especially if there is a global market crash and reset. To be fair, I am sure this brother just sees: financial collapse, authoritarianism starts to rise as the church soon raptures. And then the financial tribulation system falls into place. For him, it is that clear and obvious. And for most of us it would seem similar, amen. But with all the insane activity going on in the 1st half of the trib, aside from seal 3-5), finances and authoritarian rule kind of pale in comparison. At least to me.

Yes authoritarian rule would like produce many killed in the quarter of the world seal 5 persecution. But then we have the following:

  • Fire and brimstone rain
  • Massive trees and grass burn
  • Water spoils
  • Severly unhealthy Darkness
  • Psycho locusts attacking everyone
  • Profound demon presence on earth
  • A literal 3rd of the world killed in war of some strange kind

Like that is a lot going on where tyranny and financial hardships would be rather secondary to all of that though i would think. Then during the second half, yes we have the mark era, and great deception, but even at the point of the last bowl (Babylon the Great Fallen), there are great pockets and wealth and commerce noted at the time the world feels loss over Babylon. This is pretty near the end point of tribulation.

So I get to Japan financial to the tribulation makes sense on one level. And certainly in the warning of what is coming regardless of soon or later is totally merited. Its just too me potentially a reach. Which kind of takes the fun out of considering financial ruin with a rapture. I say that in jest. Its just that for me is somewhat like an exegetical inversion. We are talking about 3 very weighty things here. a) The state of the world and our neighbors commons, b) The word, and c) The oncoming worst 7 years the wolrd has ever and will ever see. I understand borrowing on the tribulation as reference points. But just noting where its impact, as sobering as we should take this, does leave a measure of connfusion for me.
Yeah, i suppose with your friend it may be the opposite of Trump derangement syndrome where they think that Trump is infallible and get uber defensive when any sort of reasonable criticism is made against him.

In terms of the tribulation length, i'm kinda leaning towards the school of thought where there may be a rapture gap before the last 7 years take place.

With the author of the video, i think his fields of expertise for end time prophecies is finance and technology.
 
I've been praying about this and maybe the Lord revealed to me that it's a satanic attack. President Trump's achilles heel is when he someone who WAS a supporter turns on him. Elon Musk isn't a believer, maybe President Trump isn't, so both need our prayers.
 
This just makes me wonder what important stuff is being buried as everyone looks at this dog and pony show. Silliness. I know there was a financial report due out yesterday or today- maybe it will still make it out but if this is the Friday end of the week news cycle and it's still on stupidity - I don't imagine any serious news will surface, even if it should.
Here's some info on the jobs report:

The Latest Jobs Report Is Here​

The U.S. economy added 139,000 news jobs in May, beating expectations for the third month in a row, while the unemployment rate remained unchanged at 4.2 percent, the Bureau of Labor Statistics reported Friday morning. Economists estimated last month's job growth to be at 125,000.


I spotted a few additional news reports that got buried and will post those as threads
 
Yeah, i suppose with your friend it may be the opposite of Trump derangement syndrome where they think that Trump is infallible and get uber defensive when any sort of reasonable criticism is made against him.

In terms of the tribulation length, i'm kinda leaning towards the school of thought where there may be a rapture gap before the last 7 years take place.

With the author of the video, i think his fields of expertise for end time prophecies is finance and technology.

Yes his field of expertise shows for sure. A very close sister of mine while on JD Forum came down with the gap theory syndrome too (saying that in gest and fun). To the extent she has left the end time community in general because of how some of the views in gap theory can extenuate things quite a bit. I understand the reasonableness in considering a gap theory. Perhaps there is one. Thanks for clarifying that though brother. :)

As for my friend, well it is somewhat nuanced. To clarify though, of the two of us between me and him, I had always thought more highly of Trump. As 45, my friend would have been a card carrying member of the Lincoln Party wanting to oust Trump. At that time although i could agree 100% Trump was not so diplomatic and that can become an ugly food fight in the USA and abroad, I would also take in consideration the sphere in which Trump entered in politics. How far America (and the world in general) has been jaded by the left. So to me it would just make sense to genuinely contend with all of that you probably have to be willing to a jerk half the time...lol.

But then my friend voted for Trump in 2024 because he could see the divide a bit better. My friend knows all my views, but himself, is kind of in the general business of leveraging friendship (which is likely the greater overarching concern). To clarify, he was becoming increasingly upset at Trump regarding speech laws and seeming connections with Israel. For those on the forum, Trump's unity with Israel is seen as a good thing. In the secular social media world the concerns of connections to Israel can become a huge debate concern because of issues relating to the International Holocaust Remembrance Alliance (IHRA) imposition placed on the USA through Executive Order and Congress even.

So actually his concern over Trump I would have to say has merit. But to let it become such a talking point renting space in his head and heart saddened me for him. So it was just really meant from me for him to not get so charged even under reasonable areas of legitimate concern. Which is some ways does feel kind of dirty in my own soul...lol. Being that the USA = government by the people. So in a way we should be concerned. And have to be. But this thing with Trump is so nuanced and there are so many moving pieces it was just meant by me that my friend not let it have sinister importance in is heart, i guess is a way to put it.

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So here is a slight game changer especially coming from me. But i am very open to consider the varying values in how to size things up. Typically the way to go about our considering the value of our convictions we hold leans toward ways to secure its relevance. I kind of work in the opposite way though. I look for a way to pull the rug out from underneath my convictions. Not so much so others don't have to...lol...but ok, yeah in part. But more so in wanting my convictions to have the right in my own heart to stand on their own. Or else, what the heck am i doing holding them. So i have a pretty heavy sense upon Trump in modern day end time schematics. And generally they fall into the category of the positive. But with that, and possibly even because of that, i find it helpful to challenge the pants off my own views. This video is an example of what that looks like.

For those interested in what kind of distraction this ongoing Trump/Musk saga might be about, a Jimmy Dore thesis in this 15 minute video released yesterday does seem to have some helpful concern and merit. Please keep in mind my recent general ongoing research concerning positive avenues of Trump in end times (for me) in my research has been put on hold on purpose. Sometimes i just don't want to go there at all....lol. So the kinds of research this find comes upon the wings of is during my completely ignoring my own core convictions to let a ton of other fresh air (if we can call it that...lol) in enough organically and with my holding as little bias against as possible in consideration of the validity and possibility thereof. It doesn't get much worse than what this video looks at. So for those who would not wish to see the most potential dark side here, please give this video a pass.


As for my general stance, at this moment i tend to go with what Pastor said earlier in the thread of it just being an organic spat. I tend to see that as the most likely read. But on a larger scale of concern, if the above video is what MAGA has been really about, then it is far more likely that the evangelical watcher trends and concerns of our day were likely not negative enough. I guess the correlation here would be, as long as we are looking at financial disaster potential, lets make that even scarier...lol. I believe this is the first time i have ever heard Jimmy Dore use the watcher term "beast system." He might have used it before and i just not notice. But whether so or not, he's using it now. Blessings.
 
I've been praying about this and maybe the Lord revealed to me that it's a satanic attack. President Trump's achilles heel is when he someone who WAS a supporter turns on him. Elon Musk isn't a believer, maybe President Trump isn't, so both need our prayers.
Very good consideration. In all the drama. In all the fan fare. In all the ways we look at politics and end times and themes and things that go bump in the night. In all the ways we might extrapolate directions things are going and why and what it means. In all the blueprint, templates, 3 hour video presentations of what is "really" going on. At the end of the day, would it not be said if what you notice here Hollie, is the there there?

Its almost like we have so exercised the grand overviews in our hearts, that something like you just said here can't be all this is. lol. I believe there are probably science fiction novels or movies that capture the imbalance of overaction drowning out the obvious. As far as things get crazy. And more and more alarms go off. And deeper better theories emerge, what is most common with my views of the age of grace end times being their own thing separate from the tribulation has some core feature ingredients. One of the (if not THE) strongest ones is the art of the obvious. Of all the core tenants of my views, i believe this to be the chief one with most hermeneutical excellence potential.

Not the high minded theorem of a prophet. Not the grandiose skill of the high functioning. Not the news. Not the scholarly research. Not the well traveled and seasoned guess. But just the obvious. The dirty sidewalk with graffiti. On that pavement, our eyes would not typically be trained to observe. But for those who might, its not intel on high as much as what is of the commons. What is for breakfast. What shirt or blouse to wear. What smile on a child. What off handed comment from a neighbor. Those little things in life. The nots. Becoming the things that are. In a day and age where "insights" from on high are of such premium value, I suppose it could be a thing that when levels of volume become so loud societally, it might also be a hermeneutic of sorts itself too. Silhouetting the still. The small voice...as where perhaps the most genuine essence of our times resonate most clearly.

A paradigm like this is ripe for our age. A very overly concerned one. With all the charts. All the videos. All the research. Perhaps as easily dismissed by that really dumb question asked by a child in the back of the room that utterly upends the going narrative. Themes like 1 Kings 19:11-14 come to mind when i consider, by what authority might we think thus or that in such ways...

11 So He said, “Go out and stand on the mountain before the Lord.” And behold, the Lord was passing by! And a great and powerful wind was tearing out the mountains and breaking the rocks in pieces before the Lord; but the Lord was not in the wind. And after the wind there was an earthquake, but the Lord was not in the earthquake. 12 And after the earthquake, a fire, but the Lord was not in the fire; and after the fire, a sound of a gentle blowing. 13 When Elijah heard it, he wrapped his face in his cloak and went out and stood in the entrance of the cave. And behold, a voice came to him and said, “What are you doing here, Elijah?” 14 Then he said, “I have been very zealous for the Lord, the God of armies; for the sons of Israel have abandoned Your covenant, torn down Your altars, and killed Your prophets with the sword. And I alone am left; and they have sought to take my life.”

Blessings. <3
 
I think that’s it!
At first i was thinking it was theater because of how buying twitter and using it to elect Trump seemed to wiggle its way along into Elon becoming a super Trump supporter. But knowing how Elon has a kind of Tourette syndrome worse than Trump (apparently), and the potential different views in how they look at China in a USA practical sense, it makes a lot of sense what we are seeing is real tension between the two. If it is theater, its AI level.
 
I think it is simply two powerful self-made public figures with huge egos, each used to getting their own way, and one of whom is on the autism spectrum. Nothing more than that.

It may be theater for us, but I do not believe it is some cosmic plan. Nevertheless, there is no doubt in my mind that their actions are playing into the end-times scenario that God controls. So we don't need to worry about it. Our focus should be on doing what it is God has called us to do at this time in history. Corporately, that is to spread the gospel to everyone on this planet. (And we can each do a small part of that and support others whose called ministry it is.) Individually, it is to do what God has laid on your heart to do.

This!

Not theatre, not some contrived scheme cooked up to create drama and drive the stock market, and not Tourette's which is a very very different profile than either man displays.

Lack of social filter, big egos, both displaying other problems, but this clash is exactly what @mattfivefour said: "Nevertheless, there is no doubt in my mind that their actions are playing into the end-times scenario that God controls."

This ends up focusing the media attention away from very real problems including the business of granting access to Social Insurance records and data to the quasi governmental structure of DOGE set up and staffed by Elon.

Things like privacy, protections by govt against misuse of data seem to be melting away ---as they should if we are as close to the Tribulation as I think we are getting.

This is how rights are eroded. Both sides convinced that in the end their erosion of rights is justified by the long term gain. Neither side sees that any erosion of rights is a long term loss. This started to real gain speed after 911. Here we are 24 years later and each new president, each new term brings new ways to sidestep the US Constitution and the rights of the citizens while increasing the powers of govt that were never granted to them previously.
 
Because the news cycle is in warp speed, please consider the following just sound bites along the way. Stating these things at this point along the way might seem a bit premature, and perhaps they are, but at the very end of this post you can see scientific proof of at least a measure of merit to consider as potentials along the way. Nothing more. Nothing less. Just a snapshot of thought in time. It may be interesting for some. Or not at all for others. One thing is for sure though, we are in the early timeframe of admin 47. As intro to this section, please consider what "tells" might be in place. For example, if we consider the following two brief articles, why are these judges so interested in gangs? This is not happening in a vacuum. And is something provided to see as context of our moment. Meanwhile in contrast we want to keep our thoughts within reason, and not think too far outside a box. But in sober minded consideration, what box with these judges are we actually too far out from? If this box is our current reality, and it appears to be it is, how might otherwise sound and reasonable observations of ours tame how we are thinking about things as though this is not the actual box we are experiencing to be in (we don't even have too be too far outside the box to already be outside the box of norm to begin with -- if that makes sense)? And to what extent might we posture to be reasonable in the land of the unreasonable?



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A SURMIZING
Some things could be if theater, would seem to be the Big Beautiful Bill that might need a social touch for potentially better push through/relevance. And midterms. Which of the two, seems quite a bit more involved in how.

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Elon's defection seems due to "not ALSO pulling subsidies for gas/oil as is with EVs + pork in the big beautiful bill." This makes sense if Elon thought his role in DOGE was emblematic of the trajectory he understood a Trump admin to take America. Feeling disillusioned by the bill. Maybe even used by Trump perhaps as a gimmick to seem like Trump was about America but then supports a typical looking (in Elon's view) pork bill. Feeling like we merely pretended to be America first, but really oil/gas doner class orientation and pork first. All the while, Elon taking hits for active Trump support (including what he risked prior to election day should Trump had lost--Elon's life would have been buried by leftist power mode retaliation). The caveat here possibly that as saturated as America is in the globalist infrastructure, we may not be able to get everything through a bill yet. Some old school some new may be a best shot at the current going rate of globalist infiltration (which has proven to be quite a deep deep state) we might best be able to manage at this point, perhaps. Trying to put through a lean beautiful bill would die on the floor most likely. Where are where we are at, unfortunately.

To that end, it would seem the left think Elon's economic hits taken recently, would currently now re-evaluate a want and need for the EV tax credits provisions. Perhaps feeling like the richest man in the world just got played by Trump.

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THESIS
If there is nothing more to MAGA than a noble try (or worse: a cover up to further enslave America, but with a happy/hopeful face), then likely the best it can be is whatever pseudo--political reforms can grant America along the way (by appearance only) would be merely cosmetic patchwork on the titanic. Would government actually be about anything more than posing while it syphons power?

However, if MAGA fills a role in economic and sociopolitical honest facelifts (at least in part or in whole) for prophetic setting to empower Israel, then extreme game theory would of necessity to magnanimously be in play. Determining this outcome verses the "poser" outcome may be not the easiest wind direction of things to determine where they might be headed. We live in a day and age where each side of the equation sees in events what affirms our leanings.

I believe the most reasonable ways to consider what real trajectory looks like today, is in the consideration of what each potential outcome would look like along the way. With being deceived in general, granted, it does not take much...lol. But to consider the attributes of what the lay of the land would look like if American prosperity on some level become most true (or as true as might be even possible in our day and age), would be the harder course to discern if any merit.

To make things more complicated, we have extreme views on either side. Where those in the middle see those extremes (either of them: utter soon coming doom OR measure of temporary victory) as conspiracy theory. And each side of the extreme see its opposites to be reading way too much into things. Further, if either extreme, Beast System/Golden Age, have actual merit for today, it would seem fitting that there would be seasons of false flags, psyop, false starts, and over conjecture inherent all along the way if either extreme were to be true (even though one extreme might have more merit than the other). In other words, even where one extreme might be more true for our social moment, even there it might even have its ebb and flow of how apparaent that extreme be). PS -- By Golden Age I don't mean a real golden age. Just using it as metaphor for a short real season of prosperity potential not typically considered to go with the hunk of mess we all find ourselves in.

So in this sense the best i believe we can do is understand as much we might the possibility of either extreme as our moment. And weigh them out along the way. Not so much for the sake of being in the know, as much as developing a healthy sense of generic trajectory for our day. Which could be helpful in discussions with others in the level of relevance and sober minded thinking of things relating to the bible and are times, hopefully most accurately. And how that might aid believers in a number of ways. But also unbelievers in getting a best sense of our backdrop perspective when sharing the gospel.

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We are in a world where there seems to be never ending things that could happen or may happen that is just around the corner. Any minute now. It could become a sense of purgatorying endlessly. However, we also know there are certain things that do happpen and are occurring. How to make reasonable sense in some cases are easier, granted, than others. This may be another endless rabbit trail, or it might be presumed discovery a new administration might have a sense about when potentially considering to improve things. This brief highlights what that could look like:


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I appreciate our forum as a place to consider and weigh things out as we travel together along the way during most puzzling times. Amen. :) So in the start of this post, I mentioned the harder to consider would be how theater between Trump and Musk could have oars in the midterm waters. One reason i posted the above Grassley article is a demonstration of what things might look like during a new admin's views on where previous administration left things. And how waking up to all of that might look in the real world at that level. It is clear from Grassley that a lot of game playing went on. Hide and seek. Subterfuge etc. Understanding what that might actually look like, at best (for us), would be symptoms and ear marks in takes like Grassley expressed there.

So what theater with Trump and Musk could represent in relation to midterms is something one could only ponder if there is any real consideration there are good faith players in trying to pull America further away from globalist clutches.. But if the case, it would make a lot of sense in how to call out, track and monitor bad faith players imbedded within American agencies. Out of the 10s of thousands of workers in all our agencies, there will be sleepers, and there would be those not loyal to the USA. Pitting Elon and the Don would be one political theory that would make sense in sussing out some measure of bad faith actors in the many agencies. It would also provide a mood of capture. What do i mean by that?

If the political tone and mood is that America is arguing with itself and dumbed down (even at the--or especially at the Trump admin level), then bad faith actors feel less on guard. There are two ways big mistakes are often taken by opponents. When they are stressed. And when they feel at unreasonable ease. On the latter point, something interesting on the front (only in as much as it might be a potential), Kash and Bongino comes to mind.. Because if Trump and Musk are theater, then maybe so are Kash and Bongino. What would be shared in common is the mood sense of ease for bad players. Kash And Dan are dummies maybe even suckered to be blind regarding Epstein's death. And Trump/Musk are emotional neanderthals. Nothing to worry about.

If that seems far fetched, its understandable. But how do con men work? Then often work on presumption. Leading people to think and feel presumptively. Or the "yes" path in sales. Helping a customer think "yes, yes, yes" so as to bring them down a road to a presumptive conclusion. If said customer agrees with the salesman, it would appear he is easily led. Understanding one as easily led is the mirage the con man lives within. Like the WEF duping the world on all sorts of things. If they can get people to think this or that, the WEF is fortified in their belief that they have our minds and souls in their hands. And may be overly confident we are being led to the degree they think we might. Feeling confident in their guile. The problem there though is...the WEF, or the conman or the salesman abandons real world clarity on where people actually are. Because they are too busy believing how skilled their guile is. And that can be a huge blind spot.

So if the Trump admin has something regarding Epstein the bad faith players believe has been otherwise well hidden, Kash and Dan playing dumb and owned (and even sell that on TV) could be mood. Granted, Occam's Razor would call thoughts like this insane. And it may be that Kash and Dan and Don and Elon are just saps like the rest of us caught up in the wiles of life. And that is just how it goes etc. But as wild a theory as it may be, for instance, that Trump may have wanted Elon to bring up Epstein to garnish ground swell interest even from among the dems for support of its release (whenever that might be), it could be seen as easily demonstratable political science theory measurable. Because that is at least on one level, its outcome so far...



My sense would be that the Epstein files if ever released to be like a trumpcard move. And not something we would see anytime in the near future. But something when the moment is right. Which we would have 0 understanding of because of such massive nuance all along the way. Way too many moving pieces. On a similar note, I would think one concern the left could have if Trump pardons Ditty is: All the things he'd be free to share in trade thereof.

Just some considerations from the peanut gallery along the way. :p Blessings.
 
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