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Shots Fired At Trump Rally

It's always possible that never-Trumpers are all over that convention but will look reformed and in unity with Trump/Vance. I hope that is not true. For those never-Trumpers that are now aligned......it shouldn't have taken this assassination attempt to get aligned.
I assume they will say and act however is politically expedient for them at the time.
 
I think that the 20 year old shooter was a patsy, a fall guy, for others that wanted Trump taken out. Also, I believe that they wanted to make sure that dead men tells no tales.
Very possible. He wasn't supposed to miss. Trump moving his head to look down saved him from a clean hit to his head.
I don't think the shooter expected to be taken out by SS. If he was being used, how sad that he ended up losing his life and possibly didn't know that would be part of the plan, to use him then kill him.
Ignorant guy. ☹️
 
Curious, would you all like to attend the RNC live?
I generally dislike being in big crowds and cities, but watching some of it livestream yesterday, yeah, I kinda would like to be able to drop in for a few minutes, just to feel the energy. Too bad we don't have teleporters, and I feel like if I were to ask God for just one quick sideways rapture and back, He would just laugh at me.

Anyway.

Trying to make sense of the security lapses at the Butler rally, and the shooter being able to access that roof, being known to be there for half an hour, allowed to get off shots, it just makes no sense. So suppose it was an inside job, they left the holes open, ignored the guy crawling on the roof, how do you recruit a shooter to come do that, knowing he was going to be shot right after? I mean I guess you'd tell him he's going to be allowed to get away, but who is stupid enough to believe that? I can't believe they left holes open and this guy just happened to decide to go down there to shoot Trump and oh look, how convenient, an open roof.
 
**New reports

Failed Trump Assassin Purchased Ladder and 50 Rounds of Ammo on the Morning of the Rally, According to New Report​


According to a report from CNN citing law enforcement officials, Crooks bought the ladder from Home Depot on the day he tried to assassinate Trump from the roof of a nearby building.

If this report is accurate and to be believed, Crooks may have made it past law enforcement and the Secret Service carrying a very tall ladder and used it to climb the building unnoticed.

CNN reports:

On Friday, he went to a shooting range where he was a member, and practiced firing, a law enforcement official told CNN. The next morning, Crooks went to a Home Depot, where he bought a five-foot ladder, and a gun store, where he purchased 50 rounds of ammunition, the official said.

Then, Crooks drove his Hyundai Sonata about an hour north, joining thousands of people from around the region who flocked to Trump’s rally in Butler, Pennsylvania. He parked the car outside the rally, with an improvised explosive device hidden in the trunk that was wired to a transmitter he carried, the official said. Then, investigators believe, he used his newly-bought ladder to scale a nearby building, and opened fire on the former president.

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How'd he get a 12-foot fiberglass ladder in his Sonata? Must be magic dust like Santa uses to get down the chimney.

eta article says 5-foot, but that is not what is in the photo. Maybe photo one was not his, but just left there by cops or maintenance.

Fishy fishy.
Maybe he put the ladder in the back seat and the ladder was sticking out the window?
Who knows. But people are investigating this and likely looking into the shooters last steps before the shooting. If receipts are produced for the purchase of that said ladder that trace back to the shooter then the report is legitimate.
 
I generally dislike being in big crowds and cities, but watching some of it livestream yesterday, yeah, I kinda would like to be able to drop in for a few minutes, just to feel the energy. Too bad we don't have teleporters, and I feel like if I were to ask God for just one quick sideways rapture and back, He would just laugh at me.

Anyway.

Trying to make sense of the security lapses at the Butler rally, and the shooter being able to access that roof, being known to be there for half an hour, allowed to get off shots, it just makes no sense. So suppose it was an inside job, they left the holes open, ignored the guy crawling on the roof, how do you recruit a shooter to come do that, knowing he was going to be shot right after? I mean I guess you'd tell him he's going to be allowed to get away, but who is stupid enough to believe that? I can't believe they left holes open and this guy just happened to decide to go down there to shoot Trump and oh look, how convenient, an open roof.
Competent sec detail would have dominated that space. I mean dominated, especially the high ground. They never arrive the day of an event to establish a perimeter. That's done weeks in advance or should be. But it's quite convenient when assassinations or attempted assassinations take place that the high ground is usually happily overlooked. We'd have never done that. Ever. I don't know anyone personally who I worked with that would have done that either. It's absurd. I know many are backseat detailing, but this is just basic stuff. The bare basic necessity stuff. I really do not think this is a hindsight issue at all.
 
Very possible. He wasn't supposed to miss. Trump moving his head to look down saved him from a clean hit to his head.
I don't think the shooter expected to be taken out by SS. If he was being used, how sad that he ended up losing his life and possibly didn't know that would be part of the plan, to use him then kill him.
Ignorant guy. ☹️
Many reports have said the shooter had some mental health issues because he had been bullied a lot in school and had odd behavior.
 
**New report

Rooftop where gunman shot at Trump was identified as a security vulnerability "before" rally: sources​


The rooftop where a gunman shot at former President Donald Trump during a campaign rally was identified by the Secret Service as a potential vulnerability in the days before the event, two sources familiar with the agency’s operations told NBC News.

The building, owned by a glass research company, is adjacent to the Butler Farm Show, an outdoor venue in Butler, Pennsylvania. The Secret Service was aware of the risks associated with it, the sources said.

“Someone should have been on the roof or securing the building so no one could get on the roof,” said one of the sources, a former senior Secret Service agent who was familiar with the planning.

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I suppose tho the roof did not have anyone stationed on it, the snipers were covering it from their higher vantage. Maybe that's just what they could do with their assets.
From Up thread:

Things do not add up, however, as video footage from the rally clearly shows what looks like two Secret Service agents standing watch on the Rooftop directly adjacent to where the shooter allegedly fired from.

 
**You can't make this up.

Secret Service Now Saying They Didn’t Put Any Agents on the Roof Because Slight Slope Was Too Dangerous​


CNN reports:

Witnesses who saw the alleged shooter climb on top of the roof with a rifle across from the podium where President Trump was speaking to a crowd of over 15,000 supporters begged law enforcement for action. Multiple individuals gave eyewitness accounts of how they alerted law enforcement to the serious issue.
The Gateway Pundit reported on a report from CNN that cited law enforcement officials, who said Crooks bought the ladder from Home Depot on the day he tried to assassinate Trump from the roof of a nearby building.
If this report is accurate and to be believed, Crooks may have made it past law enforcement and the Secret Service carrying a very tall ladder and used it to climb the building unnoticed.

CNN reports:
On Friday, he went to a shooting range where he was a member, and practiced firing, a law enforcement official told CNN. The next morning, Crooks went to a Home Depot, where he bought a five-foot ladder, and a gun store, where he purchased 50 rounds of ammunition, the official said.

So many questions have been asked by everyday Americans and Republican members of Congress about how the Secret Service dropped the ball and allowed a 20-yr-old man to scale a building with a rifle less than 150 yards from a former President of the United States and a frontrunner in the 2024 presidential race.

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**You can't make this up.

Secret Service Now Saying They Didn’t Put Any Agents on the Roof Because Slight Slope Was Too Dangerous​


Witnesses who saw the alleged shooter climb on top of the roof with a rifle across from the podium where President Trump was speaking to a crowd of over 15,000 supporters begged law enforcement for action. Multiple individuals gave eyewitness accounts of how they alerted law enforcement to the serious issue.

The Gateway Pundit reported on a report from CNN that cited law enforcement officials, who said Crooks bought the ladder from Home Depot on the day he tried to assassinate Trump from the roof of a nearby building.

If this report is accurate and to be believed, Crooks may have made it past law enforcement and the Secret Service carrying a very tall ladder and used it to climb the building unnoticed.

CNN reports:

Witnesses who saw the alleged shooter climb on top of the roof with a rifle across from the podium where President Trump was speaking to a crowd of over 15,000 supporters begged law enforcement for action. Multiple individuals gave eyewitness accounts of how they alerted law enforcement to the serious issue.
The Gateway Pundit reported on a report from CNN that cited law enforcement officials, who said Crooks bought the ladder from Home Depot on the day he tried to assassinate Trump from the roof of a nearby building.
If this report is accurate and to be believed, Crooks may have made it past law enforcement and the Secret Service carrying a very tall ladder and used it to climb the building unnoticed.

CNN reports:


So many questions have been asked by everyday Americans and Republican members of Congress about how the Secret Service dropped the ball and allowed a 20-yr-old man to scale a building with a rifle less than 150 yards from a former President of the United States and a frontrunner in the 2024 presidential race.

More

They can't even lie right anymore.
 
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