Pfizer, FDA docs show both lied about vaccine safety.

[Andiamo]

@1LoverofGod thats amazing how you’re able to remember all that information lol

Because of the threat of my income I reluctantly got one JJ shot in late ‘21.

I don’t know what that’s done to my body, hopefully nothing terrible. It was in a quick drive thru and I don’t think the girl knew what she was doing tbh.

Her mind is just amazing - such an ability to recall, especially scripture.

 

[Andiamo]

It was health professionals who did the studies on the effectiveness of masks with Covid and it was concluded they didn't help prevent transmission.

Masks work for certain viruses but Covid was different. The particles are so tiny they get through the masks. Some say the Only mask that may have helped a little was the N95 mask used by medical personnel and first responders but those masks were denied to the public when it was announced that they were the better mask to use
But even so, many nurses got Covid even though they wore their masks
And Covid was never spread on surface contact it was always airborne

The airborne viruses not contained in droplets do go through the masks, but the droplets containing the viruses do not. If this was not true I would have caught viral pneumonia from my patients.
And it is my understanding it was also contracted through contact. Touching the dirty carts and then touching your nose for example.

 

[Andiamo]

But not saying masks helped stop the pandemic, they obviously did not and should not have been mandated. Like I said, confusing time, conflicting information, individual decisions.

 

[Andiamo]

Here's two articles explaining the effectiveness or not, of masks for Covid. I don't want anyone to take my word for it.



A major new study shows that masks don't stop the spread of COVID. Will the mandaters apologize?

MSN


Face masks made ‘little to no difference’ in preventing spread of COVID, scientific review finds

Face masks made ‘little to no difference’ in preventing spread of COVID, scientific review finds

A new scientific review suggests that mask mandates, per the CDC's recommendations, may have done little to nothing to curb the transmission of COVID.

www.foxnews.com

Sure I agree with that. I’m just saying that at the time with the information we had, I made the decisions I made. So did people on our forum who got the jab. We were all just trying to navigate this thing. We tried our best.

 

[Andy C]

This thread reminds me of the one we had on RF before it was terminated. Lots of differing views, and thankfully, its in the past. Sadly, the damage was done, and prayers for those still struggling with residual effects with either physical or mental health issues.

There are so many opposing views from “experts” its hard to know who to trust for accurate information.

 

[Andiamo]

This thread reminds me of the one we had on RF before it was terminated. Lots of differing views, and thankfully, its in the past. Sadly, the damage was done, and prayers for those still struggling with residual effects with either physical or mental health issues.

There are so many opposing views from “experts” its hard to know who to trust for accurate information.

Actually that thread became so disrespectful. I don’t feel disrespected here. But yes, a stressful thing to discuss, many viewpoints and studies

 

[Amethyst]

But this was a very confusing time and wearing a mask was an individual decision for everyone to make, and no one should have been ridiculed for it. One person on the forum actually insinuated that I wasn’t walking in faith, just because I chose to wear a mask at the grocery store. I’m still hurt by that implication.

That is really sad and you're right it shouldnt have been said.
On the other side there were those on the board saying bc I couldnt breath good wearing a mask and hated the mandate a few people that insinuated I was not 'dying to self' and using this as an opportunity to help my fellow man and that I was not wanting to obey the governing authorities like God said to do.

It was awful, the insults on both sides.

 

[Andiamo]

That is really sad and you're right it shouldnt have been said.
On the other side there were those on the board saying bc I couldnt breath good wearing a mask and hated the mandate a few people that insinuated I was not 'dying to self' and using this as an opportunity to help my fellow man and that I was not wanting to obey the governing authorities like God said to do.

It was awful, the insults on both sides.

That’s not right either. It’s just a shame what happened.

 

[Tall Timbers]

Face masks made ‘little to no difference’ in preventing spread of COVID, scientific review finds

I believe there are over 200 studies that essentially reach that same conclusion, with regard to COVID.

 

[Andy C]

I believe there are over 200 studies that essentially reach that same conclusion, with regard to COVID.

Personally I dont care what some believe in regards to masks, jabs, isolation. Whatever that person feels most comfortable with is ok in my books.

I wont ever trust any government or private sector info released, its all biased IMO. In reality, how can we as lay persons know what is true or not? Only thing I trust is His Word. All else sadly is trial an error.

 

[Tall Timbers]

We should care. If what's being done against the Will of God, we ought to go with what The Spirit in us directs us and not go by our own instincts.
If we listen to the Holy Spirit, He will not let us be deceived.
If we get just a slight uncomfortable notion of what may be wrong, it just may be The Holy Spirit warning us and we need to listen to Him.

And we should be cautious about judging someone who comes to a different conclusion than we do. That's where much of the ugliness that happened and is still happening lies.

 

[Andy C]

We should care. If what's being done against the Will of God, we ought to go with what The Spirit in us directs us and not go by our own instincts.
If we listen to the Holy Spirit, He will not let us be deceived.
If we get just a slight uncomfortable notion of what may be wrong, it just may be The Holy Spirit warning us and we need to listen to Him.

'Trust in the Lord with all your heart,
And lean not on your own understanding;
6 In all your ways acknowledge Him,
And He shall direct your paths."
Proverbs 3:5-6

Trust in His Word, all else is suspect.

 

[Andy C]

If we can't support what we say with God's Word it should be questionable

Amen.

I would caution some with posting what they believe are facts, when in reality, its impossible to know the truth for the entire covid fiasco. I have read many articles from persons I have always trusted, yet they have a different set of “facts”, and reaching differing conclusions. Thats why I say I dont truly care, I made it through, and yet was ready to be called Home at any given minute.

 

[Andy C]

I have done extensive research on the topic and have credible knowledge on it. I don't need to use caution with the Truth.
If it offends to know the truth it's not on me.

Unless you were there as a direct part of that research, you cant know if it is accurate.

Again, you are not an expert, so when you claim its the truth, that is not accurate in regards to anything and everything covid related. And yes, I do respect your views and opinions.

 

[Andy C]

Nobody has to listen to me.
Listen to The Spirit

Doesn't that imply that if I dont agree with your views, Im not listening to the Spirit? This is a fine line were walking on this thread, and we dont need a repeat outcome as on RF.

I think we all know without doing deep research the whole thing was improperly handled.

 

[1LoverofGod]

I'm not trying to hurt anyone. I am only trying to help others understand.
Some don't know what really took place with the Covid and the shots.
Adrian has posted similar information. I don't think he would receive the same criticism I get because it is me

 

[Andy C]

I'm not trying to hurt anyone. I am only trying to help others understand.
Some don't know what really took place with the Covid and the shots.
Adrian has posted similar information. I don't think he would receive the same criticism I get because it is me

Im not criticizing, just stating none of us truly know the facts, but I still respect your opinions- I dont have to agree with them all to respect them!

Good discussion this morning but sadly, I have 200 mile drive this morning.

 

[1LoverofGod]

I don't apologize for telling the truth. I do apologize that what I have said out of love for my brothers and sisters in Christ has offended anyone.
I will gracefully leave this forum and I wish everyone blessings and that you will all continue to lift up one another in these last days until we are taken up to glory. With Love in Jesus.

 

[Andy C]

I don't apologize for telling the truth. I do apologize that what I have said out of love for my brothers and sisters in Christ has offended anyone.
I will gracefully leave this forum and I wish everyone blessings and that you will all continue to lift up one another in these last days until we are taken up to glory. With Love in Jesus.

You cant leave sister, you post a lot of interesting articles, and contribute greatly to this family of believers!

 

[Andiamo]

I don't apologize for telling the truth. I do apologize that what I have said out of love for my brothers and sisters in Christ has offended anyone.
I will gracefully leave this forum and I wish everyone blessings and that you will all continue to lift up one another in these last days until we are taken up to glory. With Love in Jesus.

I am not offended at all. As a matter of fact I have an Aunt who emails me a lot of the same information you have. I don’t read most of it, because it makes me so very angry to know how much we were all duped. Nothing I can do about it now, so I’ve moved on. It’s all I can do just to keep up with Israel. I will be very upset if you leave. You always make your points with love and respect. This forum needs you and your input. Sometimes people are quick to leave forums but I feel they should always pray and ask God first because after all, this is a ministry and we are ministering to each other. With iron but it’s still a ministry.
I love you Rose