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Mystery NJ drones are coming from Iranian mothership offshore, congressman suggests: ‘Should be shot down’

A New Jersey congressman claimed Wednesday that the mystery drones over the Garden State are from Iran, and they’re being launched by a mothership parked off the East Coast.

Rep. Jeff Van Drew, a Republican, said the drones “very possibly could be” from Iran, citing confidential sources during an appearance on Fox News Wednesday morning.

“I’m going to tell you the real deal. Iran launched a mothership that contains these drones,” Van Drew said. “It’s off the East Coast of the United States of America. They’ve launched drones.”

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DHS, FBI, FAA, DOD All Agree on New Jersey Drones: No National Security Threat​


Which one of those listed agencies can we currently trust?

Trump can't get into the White House soon enough!
 

Multiple Drone Incursions Confirmed Over Marine Corps Base Camp Pendleton​


Marine Corps Base Camp Pendleton in southern California experienced multiple drone incursions over its airspace over the past several days, a facility spokesman told The War Zone on Tuesday morning.

Between Dec. 9 and 15, “there were six instances of unmanned aerial systems (UAS) observed entering Camp Pendleton’s airspace, with no threat to installation operations,” Capt James C. Sartain, a base spokesman, told The War Zone in response to our query on the matter.

Sartain could not immediately provide details about how many drones flew over the installation, their origin, what actions were taken in response and if any air or ground operations were affected as a result of the incursions. We have asked for these details and will update this story should any be provided.

While authorities are downplaying the majority of public drone sightings, they acknowledge a real concern about those flying over military installations, which as we have noted, forced the closure of airspace over one of those facilities.

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Well, @Andy C and @bigMoose and @Tall Timbers are quite correct in their opinions of these drones. By piecing together various reports and interviews with various government officials at various levels, including federal, state and municipal who have received classified briefings, it would appear this is what is going on--

Some time ago at least one nuclear missile disappeared from Ukraine. After the fact it was determined that it was quite likely shipped to the United States. When the container was finally traced to PNYNJ (the Port of New York and New Jersey), it was discovered to have been damaged or possibly breached and the contents were gone. This was discovered approximately a month ago. Immediately America's clandestine services with military support began an intense search for the radioactive material. So far they have not located the device or devices. The nature of the missing material and the fear it could generate among the population given the terrorist promise to create an event far greater than 9/11 in America and the fact that known terrorists are loose in America thanks to the Biden Harris border policies, is why the administration has not announced what is going on. They figure the confusion and chaos created by the speculation is much easier to handle than mass hysteria that would arise if the public believed there is a nuclear weapon (or weapons) on American soil but not in American hands.

By the way, when they stated that these drones were not from an enemy nation nor was there any danger to America from an enemy nation, they were quite correct. The danger is worse: it is from known terrorists who have been allowed into the United States but not kept track of. I would imagine the administration is extremely concerned about high value targets in America, including the New York financial district, and also DC during the inauguration on January 20th.

I pray this is not the case. But if it is, I ask God that the device or devices be found and rendered harmless. Lord, may evil not triumph.
 
Well, @Andy C and @bigMoose and @Tall Timbers are quite correct in their opinions of these drones. By piecing together various reports and interviews with various government officials at various levels, including federal, state and municipal who have received classified briefings, it would appear this is what is going on--

Some time ago at least one nuclear missile disappeared from Ukraine. After the fact it was determined that it was quite likely shipped to the United States. When the container was finally traced to PNYNJ (the Port of New York and New Jersey), it was discovered to have been damaged or possibly breached and the contents were gone. This was discovered approximately a month ago. Immediately America's clandestine services with military support began an intense search for the radioactive material. So far they have not located the device or devices. The nature of the missing material and the fear it could generate among the population given the terrorist promise to create an event far greater than 9/11 in America and the fact that known terrorists are loose in America thanks to the Biden Harris border policies, is why the administration has not announced what is going on. They figure the confusion and chaos created by the speculation is much easier to handle than mass hysteria that would arise if the public believed there is a nuclear weapon (or weapons) on American soil but not in American hands.

By the way, when they stated that these drones were not from an enemy nation nor was there any danger to America from an enemy nation, they were quite correct. The danger is worse: it is from known terrorists who have been allowed into the United States but not kept track of. I would imagine the administration is extremely concerned about high value targets in America, including the New York financial district, and also DC during the inauguration on January 20th.

I pray this is not the case. But if it is, I ask God that the device or devices be found and rendered harmless. Lord, may evil not triumph.
That's what the former CEO of Aerospace John Ferguson said. He said those are "sniffer" drones looking for a missing Nuclear Warhead that he believes ended up here in the US.

I don't even know what to believe. There are so many statements that have come from government officials that change every time you turn around.
 
What in the world did we even do in the East? None of my friends have a good (satisfactory) answer and they are all as disgruntled as anyone else. I mean what, we ran endless ops, raids, and kicked in enough doors to place a fresh one at the front door of every citizen in our nation? I'm glad we drove them into caves and some people got to go to school, etc., but nation building? There? Come on.

I get it, the last things are not going to be a picnic, I just wish it wasn't all so silly. And this? We go from one box of barbaric sand to this dystopian modern-day sludge of talking refrigerators and drones looking for radioactive material on our own soil due to some hill chief's incompetence while unaccounted for line crossers run amok, unchecked? Ugh, not like this. But I'm not going to lie, I hope I fight one robot in CQ combat before it takes me out. I really hope it speaks. It just has to speak. That'd be a way to go. I could live...die with that. ☺️
 
I'm not going to lie, I hope I fight one robot in CQ combat before it takes me out. I really hope it speaks. It just has to speak. That'd be a way to go. I could live...die with that. ☺️
I've never been in close quarter combat other than in a boxing ring or a martial arts ring You're the worst Connecticut we're the worst I can be happen is a bloody nose and a few bruises; so I don't know what it's really like and therefore am unqualified to judge. But I have immense respect for all those who have been. And, brother, I have a sneaking suspicion that you could be the one who could take out a robot and emerge ... perhaps bloodied, but standing.
 
I've never been in close quarter combat other than in a boxing ring or a martial arts ring You're the worst Connecticut we're the worst I can be happen is a bloody nose and a few bruises; so I don't know what it's really like and therefore am unqualified to judge. But I have immense respect for all those who have been. And, brother, I have a sneaking suspicion that you could be the one who could take out a robot and emerge ... perhaps bloodied, but standing.
Thanks, Adrian! I wouldn't let you down.
 
Some time ago at least one nuclear missile disappeared from Ukraine. After the fact it was determined that it was quite likely shipped to the United States. When the container was finally traced to PNYNJ (the Port of New York and New Jersey), it was discovered to have been damaged or possibly breached and the contents were gone. This was discovered approximately a month ago. Immediately America's clandestine services with military support began an intense search for the radioactive material. So far they have not located the device or devices. The nature of the missing material and the fear it could generate among the population given the terrorist promise to create an event far greater than 9/11 in America and the fact that known terrorists are loose in America thanks to the Biden Harris border policies, is why the administration has not announced what is going on. They figure the confusion and chaos created by the speculation is much easier to handle than mass hysteria that would arise if the public believed there is a nuclear weapon (or weapons) on American soil but not in American hands.

If this is the case, it is a major security fail by our clandestine assets. Enough so that the agencies should be carefully scrutinized and possibly reorganized, getting rid of any personnel that are extra baggage..
 
Well, @Andy C and @bigMoose and @Tall Timbers are quite correct in their opinions of these drones. By piecing together various reports and interviews with various government officials at various levels, including federal, state and municipal who have received classified briefings, it would appear this is what is going on--

Some time ago at least one nuclear missile disappeared from Ukraine. After the fact it was determined that it was quite likely shipped to the United States. When the container was finally traced to PNYNJ (the Port of New York and New Jersey), it was discovered to have been damaged or possibly breached and the contents were gone. This was discovered approximately a month ago. Immediately America's clandestine services with military support began an intense search for the radioactive material. So far they have not located the device or devices. The nature of the missing material and the fear it could generate among the population given the terrorist promise to create an event far greater than 9/11 in America and the fact that known terrorists are loose in America thanks to the Biden Harris border policies, is why the administration has not announced what is going on. They figure the confusion and chaos created by the speculation is much easier to handle than mass hysteria that would arise if the public believed there is a nuclear weapon (or weapons) on American soil but not in American hands.

By the way, when they stated that these drones were not from an enemy nation nor was there any danger to America from an enemy nation, they were quite correct. The danger is worse: it is from known terrorists who have been allowed into the United States but not kept track of. I would imagine the administration is extremely concerned about high value targets in America, including the New York financial district, and also DC during the inauguration on January 20th.

I pray this is not the case. But if it is, I ask God that the device or devices be found and rendered harmless. Lord, may evil not triumph.
So I am not up on the idea of taking small quad copter type drone aircraft and using them as sniffer like the long running WC-135 sniffer aircraft going back in origins to the end of the cold war days. Would you have any specific info that small drones like those being claimed to be seen in this recent hoopla about them that shows a definite outfitting of such drones with NBC collection abilities?
 
So I am not up on the idea of taking small quad copter type drone aircraft and using them as sniffer like the long running WC-135 sniffer aircraft going back in origins to the end of the cold war days. Would you have any specific info that small drones like those being claimed to be seen in this recent hoopla about them that shows a definite outfitting of such drones with NBC collection abilities?
First, a warning about reading my post — I possess about 1/2 teaspoon knowledge about outfitting drones.

Regarding radioactive materials, couldn’t both a Geiger counter ‘sniff’ out radioactivity. Or maybe there’s a type of photography that detects radioactivity :scratch:
 
So I am not up on the idea of taking small quad copter type drone aircraft and using them as sniffer like the long running WC-135 sniffer aircraft going back in origins to the end of the cold war days. Would you have any specific info that small drones like those being claimed to be seen in this recent hoopla about them that shows a definite outfitting of such drones with NBC collection abilities?

Ferguson is the CEO of Saxon Aerospace LLC, a Wichita-based company specializing in advanced UAVs for military and industrial applications.

According to his LinkedIn account, “Saxon Aerospace LLC./Saxon Unmanned is a manufacturer of Unmanned Aerial Vehicles and Terrestrial Robot Crawlers for commercial, industrial and military clients around the world. Our mission is to design and build the most rugged, reliable systems and provide on-site training to ensure success for each client.”

Areas of Expertise:

  • Intelligent Surveillance and Reconnaissance
  • Thermal Imagery Analysis
  • Remote Operated Vehicle (ROV) Industry Expertise spanning over 19 years
  • Executive Management
  • Project Management
  • Operations Management
  • Business Development
  • Vessel Management


The CEO further explained that the specific use of drones at night, equipped with advanced sensing technologies, suggests that they are being used for specialized tasks such as intelligence surveillance and reconnaissance (ISR).

Ferguson dismissed the idea that these drones are used for ordinary tasks like mapping or agricultural work, which are typically conducted during daylight.

Instead, he insists these operations are likely aimed at detecting hidden or elusive targets, including radioactive materials.

Ferguson: Now, drones have no reason to be in the air at night unless you’re doing some type of ISR work, intelligence surveillance reconnaissance, looking for bad guys or looking for a victim, a search and rescue victim, or law enforcement, or some type of military project.

There’s no reason for a drone to be flying at night, really, because they don’t see ****. Unless you have thermal optics, drones really don’t see stuff. You need to do mapping during the day. If you’re going to do farming stuff, mostly do it during the day.

Ferguson: Now, drones have no reason to be in the air at night unless you’re doing some type of ISR work, intelligence surveillance reconnaissance, looking for bad guys or looking for a victim, a search and rescue victim, or law enforcement, or some type of military project.

There’s no reason for a drone to be flying at night, really, because they don’t see ****. Unless you have thermal optics, drones really don’t see stuff. You need to do mapping during the day. If you’re going to do farming stuff, mostly do it during the day.

The only reason why you would ever fly an unmanned aircraft at night is if you’re looking for something, whether it be a person or trying to smell gas.

We have methane gas detection systems that can detect gas leaks and pipelines. You really wouldn’t use thermal optics for trying to find gas leaks just simply because the only way you’re actually going to find a gas leak with thermal optics is if the gas leak is aggressive enough that it has a difference in temperature. Because radio thermal imaging, it creates a digital image based off the temperature of variance.

Ferguson: My belief is they’re trying to smell something on the ground, gas, leaks, radioactive material, whatever. Do I think that If they’re coming up out of the ocean, no, I don’t think so.

Drones that are multi-copter type drones, not the fixed wing aircraft that look like regular airplanes, but the multi-copters, they only have so much battery life. They have hybrid versions that are gas-powered with electric, but those can still only fly for a short period of time.

There’s no way in hell that any drone is going to go miles off the Coast as a multi-copter and fly into the interior of the United States and do a bunch of work and then turn around and fly back. It’s just physics will not allow that to happen.

So these drones, I believe, are launched from a location that nobody knows. But I do believe that they’re flying low enough that they’re just trying to sniff the ground and try to find something. So again, I hate to be a pessimist or a guy that thinks directly to the negative.

However, I know as a professional, we build professional stuff for the military. I believe that they’re actually out there trying to smell something that’s very important.

 
First, a warning about reading my post — I possess about 1/2 teaspoon knowledge about outfitting drones.

Regarding radioactive materials, couldn’t both a Geiger counter ‘sniff’ out radioactivity. Or maybe there’s a type of photography that detects radioactivity :scratch:
Understood. I can tell you that a Geiger counters generally do not record much data and often times only give live info that is immediately lost. Cameras as a means of detecting radiation, there are means of doing it even with a cell phone camera sensor and special apps. This goes back about 3 to 5 years as a concept that has been proven to actually work. I can't find much on current technological levels now but the originals proof of concept apps were not without a number of flaws that make precision detection not good. In short you could know there was radiation but not necessarily how much and it could not be run long enough to be used to locate a source. Now that may have changed over the past few years but I can't find anything to support any upgrade in abilities. So yes a special camera and certain software applications could be mounted to a drone. But the volume of radioactivity from a weaponized hunk of nuclear material would likely be better noticed and located by existing older technology that goes back many decades. Such technology was specifically designed to detect weapon levels of radioactivity unlike a simple dosimeter can track from great distances and triangulate location.

What I did see is some interesting equipment out of the Univ. of Michigan that detects gamma ray radiation with a nice trick that it does not need to be cryogenically cooled with liquid nitrogen like older technology requires. The thing about that tecnology is the size of the unit is bigger than two of the largest commercial drones sold and weighs too much to be lifted by a single drone.

So I am not saying it can't be as you suggested and thank you because I had not considered digital camera equipment as a form of radiation detection but it does already exist. I will be looking into that some more. Maybe I can pass some good info off to my son for him to do further possible investment in some start up tech.
 
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