Is the RAPTURE Really This Month? The Bible’s Timeline Is Shocking

[Andiamo]

And despite people date setting, I still do enjoy speculating about time frames. To me, its kind of like betting on horses Ok…that one wasn’t a winner, but look at this beauty
It’s fun. The problem is when people take it too seriously.

 

[Amethyst]

I like the millennial day theory
And I hope it true.
And yes I will be disappointed if it’s not.
But it s a time frame not a specific day or even year necessarily

 

[Andiamo]

I like the millennial day theory
And I hope it true.
And yes I will be disappointed if it’s not.
But it s a time frame not a specific day or even year necessarily

The millennial day theory is so cool and to me it rings true because God is so perfect and exacting. But who knows, maybe the trigger is the perfect number in His bride or some other perfect thing we have no idea about.

 

[Margery]

And despite people date setting, I still do enjoy speculating about time frames. To me, its kind of like betting on horses Ok…that one wasn’t a winner, but look at this beauty
It’s fun. The problem is when people take it too seriously.

I like to explore all the possibilities, just like I take notice when stuff is happening that might line up with Ezek 38 for example. Or any prophecy that might apply to the near future or to the Trib. Because before the Trib He is coming to get us.

There's an air of hopeful excitement all the more as we see the season coming more and more into view. Like a kid before Christmas.

It's just proof we are happily waiting to see our Lord. Talking about the possibilities. Hoping.

Waiting on the Lord - God the Father decides when to send His Son to get His bride. He gets to set the date. We can ask - Maranatha please Lord, but our attitude is "thy will not mine be done". Our eager longing is pleasing to God.

The Jewish brides in Galilee at the time of Christ didn't know when their bridegroom would come for them. They were always waiting hopefully, and even more so as time went by. He had promised with that cup of wine they shared to come for her after all. So she'd carry on getting her things ready and staying ready every night. And if anyone asked the young man when the wedding was (it was an expected joke) he would give the usual reply, "only my father knows for sure" and probably everyone would grin and stop ribbing the young man. He was just as hopeful as his future bride was. But only the Father knew for sure.

I like the millennial day theory
And I hope it true.
And yes I will be disappointed if it’s not.
But it s a time frame not a specific day or even year necessarily

Yes! It is pointing at a season. It will be closing next year I think- with the year 2033 minus 7 being 2026 but that 4 year window is a large window of time, not a date.

I will be a bit disappointed too if it comes and goes, and like you- I hope it's true, and whether it is or not, I'm going to do my level best to serve the Lord down here with whatever time and strength He gives me.

All who love His appearing will be rewarded.

2 Tim 4:8
Henceforth there is laid up for me a crown of righteousness which the Lord, the righteous Judge, shall give me on that Day — and not to me only, but unto all those also who love His appearing.

 

[lismore]

Hello! I watched the video, it raised interesting points some of which I hadn't heard before. I know we all can't wait for the today, but I can recall similar videos in past years that seemed to be sure. One thing I'm sure of, it's real close. If not this September, it will certainly be soon. God Bless All

 

[RonJohnSilver]

From Greg Laurie, reposted from Harbingers Daily...

Let’s start with the obvious: the Rapture sounds crazy. Jesus descends from Heaven, dead people rise from their graves, and living believers are suddenly caught up into the sky—like the world’s strangest episode of “Stranger Things.” Sounds like the stuff your uncle mutters about after three cups of church coffee. Except—it’s right there in Scripture. Paul says it. John says it. Jesus says it. The only ones who don’t are usually the skeptics writing editorials dismissing the very faith that gives us hope.

Opposing Views on the Rapture

Now, critics like to pounce: “But the word Rapture isn’t even in the Bible!” Congratulations, Sherlock. Neither are the words Trinity or even Bible. And yet, here we are, still believing in all three. The word comes from the Latin rapturus, which translates the Greek word harpazo—meaning “to snatch up, grab by force.” Imagine a parent reaching out and pulling their child away from danger just in time. That’s the picture Scripture gives us of the Rapture.

Some say, “Oh, the Rapture is just a modern invention, some 19th-century gimmick.” Nonsense. Yes, J.N. Darby helped popularize it in more recent times, but long before him, the early Church Fathers like Irenaeus and Cyprian wrote about believers being “snatched up” before judgment. It’s not new—it’s biblical. We also hear about the Rapture straight from Paul, Peter, James, and most importantly, Jesus Himself: “I will come again and receive you to myself.”

The most familiar passage on the Rapture is 1 Thessalonians 4:16–18: “For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together (Greek word: harpazo, meaning ‘snatched up’) with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord. Wherefore comfort one another with these words.”

And if that sounds far-fetched, remember Enoch—who literally walked off the face of the earth into God’s presence—and Elijah, who rode to Heaven in a fiery chariot. The prototypes are already in the Old Testament.

Why This Matters

Here’s why this isn’t just a fun theological parlor game: the Rapture gives hope. Paul calls it the “blessed hope.” When you’ve buried a loved one, you don’t need vague talk about them being “in a better place.” You need the solid promise that in one split second, you’ll be with them again. Parents reunited with children. Husbands with wives. Brothers and sisters together again. And at the center of it all—Jesus Christ Himself.

And it does more than comfort grief. It motivates godliness. If you really believe Jesus could return at any moment, maybe don’t binge sin like it’s Netflix. You wouldn’t invite your best friend into a house piled with dirty laundry and Taco Bell wrappers. Don’t greet your Savior that way either. You want to be ready—walking with Him, keeping your spiritual house in order.

Of course, there’s always the circus clowns with their calendars: “88 Reasons Jesus Will Return in 1988!” They were wrong, just like every other date-setter before or since. Jesus made it pretty clear: “No one knows the day or the hour.” Which, funnily enough, includes you, me, and that guy on YouTube with the chart and the whiteboard. The Rapture isn’t about prediction—it’s about preparation.

The Takeaway

So, what do we do with all this? We wake up. We stay alert. We stop living like the world is a Vegas buffet that never closes. Paul said: “The night is almost gone, the day of salvation is soon here.” Translation: time is short. Knock it off. If you’re a believer, live clean, live holy, live hopeful. If you’re not—well, get right or get left.

Because one day, maybe in our lifetime, maybe tonight—in a blink, in the twinkling of an eye—everything changes. Loved ones raised. The Church caught up. Judgment delayed until after the Bride has been rescued.

It’s not escapism. It’s not fantasy. As C.S. Lewis reminded us, looking forward to the eternal world is one of the things a Christian is meant to do.

So, laugh if you want. Roll your eyes. Write your snarky post. But when it happens—when the shout comes, when the trumpet blows—mockery won’t matter. Only hope will.

 

[AnyMinute]

I think I mostly know the answer, but where in the Bible does the doctrine of imminency come from? How much is explicitly stated vs how much is logically derived? We’ve touched on that a few times in this thread (or maybe the other one), but I don't think we've developed it fully.

The word imminence used in the context of describing the unknowable time of the rapture, is a theological term to describe many related passages that deal with the subject. All the passages kept in their proper context form the doctrine of imminence.
As described better in the linked articles, the imminent rapture doesn't mean it has to happen soon but can happen at any time and nothing else prophetic has to proceed it.
I always refer to the rapture as soon, but that is mostly subjective just because of the perceived nearness of tribulation events and the nearly 2000 years since the death and resurrection of Christ.

As far as explicit or logically derived, I understand most passages that state things such as eagerly await, at hand, is near, etc. are to be considered together and explicitly form the doctrine of imminency.

This isn't directed at you specifically and you may already know all of this but your question made me dig into both scripture and reread some older articles that helped me along the way to better understand the biblical teaching of imminence.
Here are a few if any are interested.

Imminency and the Any-Moment Rapture - by Thomas Ice - The Pre-Trib Research Center

We believe that our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ could come in the clouds at any-moment and take His church to be with Him to His Father's house (John 14:1-3). What a great hope, that while you are reading this article, our Lord could return and rapture His church. We have come to call this...

www.pre-trib.org

In fact, imminency is such a powerful argument for pretribulationism that it is one of the most frequent and fiercely attacked doctrines by our opponents. Non-pretribulationists sense that if the New Testament teaches imminency, then pretribulationism is virtually assured.

DEFINITION OF IMMINENCY​

What is the biblical definition of imminency? Four important elements contribute to a pretribulational understanding of imminency. First, imminency means that the rapture could take place at any moment. While other events may take place before the rapture, no event must precede it. If prior events are required before the rapture, then the rapture could not be described as imminent. Thus, if any event were required to occur before the rapture, then the concept of imminency would be destroyed.


Second, since the rapture is imminent and could happen at any moment, then it follows that one must be prepared for it to occur at any time, without sign or warning.


Third, imminency eliminates any attempt at date setting. Date setting is impossible since the rapture is signless (i.e., providing no basis for date setting) and if imminency is really true, the moment a date was fixed then Christ could not come at any moment, destroying imminency.


Fourth, Renold Showers says, "A person cannot legitimately say that an imminent event will happen soon. The term 'soon' implies that an event must take place 'within a short time (after a particular point of time specified or implied).' By contrast, an imminent event may take place within a short time, but it does not have to do so in order to be imminent. As I hope you can see by now, "imminent" is not equal to 'soon.' "1 A. T. Pierson has noted that, "Imminence is the combination of two conditions, viz.,: certainty and uncertainty. By an imminent event we mean one which is certain to occur at some time, uncertain at what time." 2

• 1 Corinthians 1:7bible:1Cor1.7']
  
  - "awaiting eagerly the revelation of our Lord Jesus Christ,"
• 1 Corinthians 16:22bible:1Cor16.22']
  
  - "Maranatha."
• Philippians 3:20bible%3APhil3.20']
  
  - "For our citizenship is in heaven, from which also we eagerly wait for a Savior, the Lord Jesus Christ;"
• Philippians 4:5bible%3APhil4.5']
  
  - "The Lord is near."
• 1 Thessalonians 1:10bible:1Thess1.10']
  
  - "to wait for His Son from heaven,"
• 1 Thessalonians 4:15-18bible:1Thess4.15-18']
  
  - "For this we say to you by the word of the Lord, that we who are alive, and remain until the coming of the Lord, shall not precede those who have fallen asleep. For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of {the} archangel, and with the trumpet of God; and the dead in Christ shall rise first. Then we who are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air, and thus we shall always be with the Lord. Therefore comfort one another with these words."
• 1 Thessalonians 5:6bible:1Thess5.6']
  
  - "so then let us not sleep as others do, but let us be alert and sober."
• 1 Timothy 6:14bible:1Tim6.14']
  
  - "that you keep the commandment without stain or reproach until the appearing of our Lord Jesus Christ,"
• Titus 2:13bible%3ATitus2.13']
  
  - "looking for the blessed hope and the appearing of the glory of our great God and Savior, Christ Jesus;"
• Hebrews 9:28bible%3AHeb9.28']
  
  - "so Christ . . . shall appear a second time for salvation without reference to sin, to those who eagerly await Him."
• James 5:7-9bible%3AJames5.7-9']
  
  - "Be patient, therefore, brethren, until the coming of the Lord. . . . for the coming of the Lord is at hand. . . . behold, the Judge is standing right at the door."
• 1 Peter 1:13bible:1Pet1.13']
  
  - "fix your hope completely on the grace to be brought to you at the revelation of Jesus Christ."
• Jude 21bible%3AJude21']
  
  - "waiting anxiously for the mercy of our Lord Jesus Christ to eternal life."
• Revelation 3:11bible%3ARev3.11']
  
  ; 22:7bible%3ARevelation22.7']
  
  , 12bible%3ARevelation22.12']
  
  , 20bible%3ARevelation22.20']
  
  - "' I am coming quickly!' "
• Revelation 22:17bible%3ARev22.17']
  
  , 20bible%3ARevelation22.20']
  
  - "And the Spirit and the bride say, 'Come.' And let the one who hears say, 'Come.' "
  "He who testifies to these things says, 'Yes, I am coming quickly.' Amen. Come, Lord Jesus."

The Imminent Coming of Christ - by Renald Showers - The Pre-Trib Research Center

The Concept of Imminency ...

www.pre-trib.org

https://www.pre-trib.org/pretribfiles/pdfs/Stanton-TheDoctrineOfImminency.pdf

 

[Greg]

Great digging -- thank you! That gets much deeper than what we were looking at earlier in the thread, which itself led me to challenge some assumptions and reconsider what scripture actually said in context.

 

[TCC]

Date setting is extremely harmful to onlookers and makes Christians look stupid. Brit brought that up in his video and I can see what he means. It's not only believers that can become jaded, but unbelievers will start to see us as weirdos that are constantly wrong and gullible, and I can see how that can negatively impact what they think of the Bible.

I do get excited at the possibility of the rapture happening soon and I love reading the articles on Pete Garcia's blog, but I also know that the Bible never says the date. I fantasize at possible years they speculate about and then I live my life as it may not happen in my lifetime. 2026, for example, is a year many on that blog point to. While I get excited at the possiblity, I am still making plans for my vow renewals in 2027 (Yes, I'm an extreme Type A that God is constantly reminding to hold my plans loosely ). Hey, maybe we'll be raptured and those plans won't happen. I would love that!

Thanks Cheeky for sharing your heart here. Amen. I understand a general consensus about the abuse of using dates to make spiritual points. Amen. But there are some other factors I think are kind of worthy too to consider. In addition below I wanted to share something that is a bit confusing to me too in all of this. Thanks in advance...and blessings...

If someone date sets and says this will happen on such and such a date and does not offer any other possible outcome including being wrong, yes, I would agree this is foolish. But in Britts video he mentioned the blood red moon traid as an example of date setting. The issue I have with this approach, to me, is it kind of commits, to me, a logical logical fallacy of date setting to begin with. Not that we should not be Leary of bad dates set. But that we dismiss potential significances because of date setters. On one hand, we don't want to grant power to the all mighty date setter. Amen. But I do not believe it is equally wise though for us to consider there may not be something significant in what that person that saw dates as important. On one hand we overly set dates. On the other hand we can tend to white wash any relevance as to why some dates or events might matter.

I think the blood red moon triad is a perfect example of this. If we say a prediction was made that Christ would return between triad sets, and Christ did not return, then we dismiss that blood red moon traids as not being meaningful because John Doe false date set. Although it is true that false dates or events were used. But should that mean that triads have no significance? In doing so, we can tend to make John Doe so wrong, we refuse to consider what might be relevant about traids. For example, we "can" trace traids to periods of unusually historic Jewish events. So there might be something helpful from an overall perspective about that phenomenon. What was within 2 years of the last triad was Israely getting Jerusalem affirmed. Which 70 years of diplomatic cowardice would otherwise be the annual outcome concerning Israel. So there is something true I believe about blood red moon triads and how their markers in history do reflect on significant Jewish events. Why that matters? That could be up for debate. Or in what way is kowning that helpful is up for debate. But to dismiss it out right because John Doe is wrong is kind of how I believe in ways the church can tend to levy discernment that might not be as discerning as it might also stray into overly confident conjecture trafficking as wisdom. If that makes sense?

. . . . .

So this whole Rosh Hashanah dating is confusing to me. And the fact that it often is noted too as the same day as the day of Atonoment. Below are day of Atonements for the next 10 years.

2025	Wednesday, October 1	Thursday, October 2
2026	Sunday, September 20	Monday, September 21
2027	Sunday, October 10	Monday, October 11
2028	Friday, September 29	Saturday, September 30
2029	Wednesday, September 18	Thursday, September 19
2030	Sunday, October 6	Monday, October 7
2031	Saturday, September 27	Sunday, September 28
2032	Friday, October 15	Saturday, October 16
2033	Wednesday, October 5	Thursday, October 6
2034	Tuesday, September 26	Wednesday, September 27

Below are the dates of Rosh Hashanah for the next 10 years:

• 2025: Monday, September 22 – Wednesday, September 24
• 2026: Friday, September 11 – Sunday, September 13
• 2027: Friday, October 1 – Sunday, October 3
• 2028: Wednesday, September 20 – Friday, September 22
• 2029: Sunday, September 9 – Tuesday, September 11
• 2030: Friday, September 27 – Sunday, September 29
• 2031: Friday, September 19 – Sunday, September 21
• 2032: Tuesday, September 7 – Thursday, September 9
• 2033: Sunday, September 26 – Tuesday, September 28
• 2034: Monday, September 16 – Wednesday, September 18
• 2035: Thursday, October 4 – Saturday, October 6

Biblically what is weird is that Rosh Hashanah had typically been 10 days leading to the day of Atonment. Only now they are one in the same? In cases it would seem the Day of Atonoment is before Rosh Hashanah. So this is really getting confusing to me. Would anyone have a good way of setting this record straight? lol. Because it seems to be all over the map to me.

In addition, when we look at the dates for Rosh Hashanah 2025 / 2032 we have Sept 22 and Sept 7th. So how did this video make it this far? What dates are we actually using? Furthermore, what dates is Britt using. He said 2027 Oct 1-3 correctly, but then in 2034 it is September 16-18 and the day of Atonement Sept 26 & 27th. So at this point, lol, I'm kind of lost as to why dates are flying off the shelf like they are when it does not even seem to be a consistent context when viewing what dates we can go by in the future for these Holy Days. So if anyone has a helpful way to break down why there is this inconsistency, I would love to hear it. Amen. Blessings.

 

[TCC]

Question: Is there a specific time of the year for some of the Rapture verses in Scripture? If so,then shouldn’t we know exactly what time of year to be looking for Him to come? For instance in Micah Chapter 7 it speaks of Summer fruits as a time when the Good man has disappeared out of the earth.

My point is this,many say Imminency is a Biblical concept,but if the Word of God is giving a specific time of year for the season of the Rapture then the Word of God has to come to pass exactly as what is written. I hope it is Imminent otherwise we all have to maybe wait a few more months before we can get into the season again. I am struggling with the concept of Imminency if the Scriptures are pin-pointing a specific time of the year. I am open to be taught on the concept of Imminency and how it relates to the Rapture.

Answer:
Trying to anticipate the Rapture by looking for the most likely date for its occurrence is man’s idea, not God’s. The thought behind the Doctrine of Imminency is that the Lord can come at any time for His Church. As you point out, as soon as a probable date is selected, the Doctrine of Imminency goes out the window.

In the past I’ve written that if the Rapture were to occur on a specific date, then the Feast of Pentecost would be the one most likely becauce it’s the only Biblically significant date that seems to describe the Church.

But I’ve also written that I don’t believe that the Rapture is a date specific event, but is number specific instead. That means that it won’t happen on any particular day, but only when the pre-determined number of humans become believers. This conclusion comes from Romans 11:25. If you stop to think about it, the number specific concept is the only one consistent with the Doctrine of Imminence.

The Rapture And The Doctrine Of Imminency – Grace thru faith

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If we believe the Galilean wedding is a model for the Rapture of the church, the Father will decide that preparations by the son for His Bride are complete and that it is time to go and fetch the Bride. If that is correct then nothing that happens here on earth aside from the pre-determined numbers that will make up the Bride (the Church) need take place before the Rapture occurs. From that comes the Doctrine of Imminency with regards to the Rapture.

If the content in the video were correct, that the signing of that 7 year covenant will happen and the Rapture will immediately follow that, then the Doctrine of Imminency would have turned out to be flawed. The Doctrine is derived from our best understanding of the Word by those who believe the Bible tells us the Rapture will be pre-Tribulational.

Thanks TT. I appreciate your elaborating here. From the standpoint of marketing a date, I think the content creator injecting the rapture happens after the signing of the covenant with the many in ways is a poor choice to sell his point. Because it brings up a whole host of issues. But I think the content creator needed to do something like that to lock in dates. Which on the surface does look to twist things and force things to look like something.

But on imminency though, if the purpose of the rapture is to remove the church from the tribulation coming, and the tribulation is the 70th week for Israel, could the rapture have occured in 1940? Eight years before Israel would ever form? In understanding the tribulation as the 70th week, Israel would have to be here, correct? And if what is known about Ez 37 as Israel returning in 1948, would not Ez 37 supercede imminency? Because it is a clear prophecy we saw unfold. It would seem that imminency though could not be free standing aside from God's sovereign plan with Israel. In this way, would not the rapture have to be connected to Israel forming for them to have a 70th week? Thanks, and blessings.

 

[Baby Yoda]

was then taught about the Rapture which I had never heard about from my parents or from church.

Same here, my mom only said "her mom had told her how horrible things would be in the end times," never about our hope. But I guess that's because they were all Catholic and never looked at Bibles.

 

[Tall Timbers]

I got save at 28 and was then taught about the Rapture which I had never heard about from my parents or from church.

Shortly after I got saved I picked up a pamphlet about the end times that someone had left for someone to pick up. It described a pre-trib rapture and mapped out the Tribulation years. I still have that pamphlet and am grateful for whomever left it there for me to find.

 

[Andy C]

if the purpose of the rapture is to remove the church from the tribulation coming,

That is a reason, but the scripture below I believe shows the main reason, and its to complete the 6 areas below in the final week of the 70 week prophecy leading to the start of the Millennial Kingdom.

Daniel 9:24
“Seventy ‘sevens’ are decreed for your people and your holy city to finish transgression, to put an end to sin, to atone for wickedness, to bring in everlasting righteousness, to seal up vision and prophecy and to anoint the Most Holy Place.

 

[Margery]

God bless Christians who leave tracts in random places. You never know..... BUT GOD DOES!

 

[Andy C]

I will be a bit disappointed too if it comes and goes, and like you- I hope it's true, and whether it is or not, I'm going to do my level best to serve the Lord down here with whatever time and strength He gives me.

I heard someone say that if the rapture does not happen next month, or even next year, whenever it happens if in our lifetime, none of us upon first laying our eyes upon Jesus will state “What took you so long”?

 

[Margery]

That is a reason, but the scripture below I believe shows the main reason, and its to complete the 6 areas below in the final week of the 70 week prophecy leading to the start of the Millennial Kingdom.

Daniel 9:24
“Seventy ‘sevens’ are decreed for your people and your holy city to finish transgression, to put an end to sin, to atone for wickedness, to bring in everlasting righteousness, to seal up vision and prophecy and to anoint the Most Holy Place.

Yes, because the Tribulation is all about the salvation of the Jewish nation (quoting Jan here)

That is the primary purpose. God will save Gentiles who believe in Jesus too, but the primary purpose is the Salvation of the Jews. Which fulfills a whole ton of prophecies in the OT.

Removing the church is for 2 reasons

1 is God will not pour out His wrath on His Son again. Those covered by the blood of His Son are likewise covered and protected as they are part of His body here on earth. His body and bride the church must be removed before that wrath can be poured out on the world.

2 the church was promised to be taken out before the Tribulation when God's focus again returns to Israel.

 

[dwb]

In the past I’ve written that if the Rapture were to occur on a specific date, then the Feast of Pentecost would be the one most likely becauce it’s the only Biblically significant date that seems to describe the Church.

I tend to agree with this statement. The Church is different from Israel, so why would the rapture be based on Israel's feast days or events. The separation of Israel and the Church is critical to understanding end time events. I was totally confused until I stopped lumping both together; I'm sure a lot of replacement theology caused the confusion.

 

[Goodboy]

Just wanted to let everyone know that due to health issues and stress at my age of 72, I will be taking what may turn out to be a permanent vacation from any forum activity. I have enjoyed the time that I have participated here and wish all of you the best!!!
I really hope that I see all of you next month in the Rapture but if not then, the Rapture has to be soon.

This world is really going down fast!!!

 

[Andy C]

I tend to agree with this statement. The Church is different from Israel, so why would the rapture be based on Israel's feast days or events. The separation of Israel and the Church is critical to understanding end time events. I was totally confused until I stopped lumping both together; I'm sure a lot of replacement theology caused the confusion.

Concur. I can understand arguments on both sides, but to me its for the church, irrelevant to any Jewish festival days.

 

[Spartan Sprinter]

Thanks TT. I appreciate your elaborating here. From the standpoint of marketing a date, I think the content creator injecting the rapture happens after the signing of the covenant with the many in ways is a poor choice to sell his point. Because it brings up a whole host of issues. But I think the content creator needed to do something like that to lock in dates. Which on the surface does look to twist things and force things to look like something.

But on imminency though, if the purpose of the rapture is to remove the church from the tribulation coming, and the tribulation is the 70th week for Israel, could the rapture have occured in 1940? Eight years before Israel would ever form? In understanding the tribulation as the 70th week, Israel would have to be here, correct? And if what is known about Ez 37 as Israel returning in 1948, would not Ez 37 supercede imminency? Because it is a clear prophecy we saw unfold. It would seem that imminency though could not be free standing aside from God's sovereign plan with Israel. In this way, would not the rapture have to be connected to Israel forming for them to have a 70th week? Thanks, and blessings.

I can't speak on the rapture but had the Jews of recognised Jesus and accepted him at his first coming the millennial kingdom etc woulda started way back then .