Is the RAPTURE Really Next Month? The Bible’s Timeline Is Shocking

[Tall Timbers]

He's referring to me and none of what I posted was personal to him but was directed at the topic.

 

[Margery]

He's referring to me and none of what I posted was personal to him but was directed at the topic.

I thought as much!

Goodboy, I think you owe Tall Timbers an apology!

Just because a person doesn't agree with an idea or a video that you posted (for people to comment on) doesn't mean that they've attacked you personally!

While you and I may not agree on some things, I was not speaking of you or anyone that was not specifically directing what they said at me personally. This person seemed to just have a problem with me and again it was not you. I have no problem with you!

"this person" as you call him

is a moderator here, and as such he like the rest of us mods try to keep things in every thread on a good friendly civil basis. AND on a BIBLICAL basis.

He deserves respect for that!

When a moderator has to step in, it's hard when they then become the target, and it's even more of a problem then because you've pointed and hinted that it was Tall Timbers, who is just doing his job here.

Last year you DID get pretty heated in your defence of that date too. And you did get a bit cranky with those of us trying to talk you off that ledge. This does feel like a replay. I was there, and it wasn't pleasant.

As for this video - it's creator said when the rapture would take place --- it is at the 7 minute mark 55 seconds. @Kem quotes him correctly. I went back to check. He starts in on this at the 7:45 mark, explaining the exact day, then goes on to place the rapture just after that.

That is kind of a big deal because it is the covenant that starts the Trib, and the church isn't here for any part of that. Placing it after the signing of the covenant- means that puts the church into the Trib at that very point. That is theologically wrong. Placing the Church inside the Trib at any point is NOT a Pre Trib position.

And that guy teaches that the Rapture is AFTER the covenant that starts the Trib! That is not Pre Trib at all.

That is terrible theology because it places the church, the BODY OF CHRIST here on earth into God's wrath, which is poured out during the entire Tribulation. But God already poured out HIs WRATH on His Son Jesus on the Cross, once for all time and eternity. We who are bought by His blood, forming the church, His body are NOT UNDER THAT WRATH. We CANNOT be here after that covenant that starts the Trib. Because God will NOT EVER pour out His wrath again on Jesus or those covered by His blood

Ok to answer @Tall Timbers , at the 7 minute 55 second spot on the video, he says "after that the rapture will kick start the 7 year tribulation". I was pretty sure he said something like that and indeed he did.

The other question @Andy C right about 8 minutes and 47 seconds he starts speaking of the number of times that exactly 2550 days are between the feast of trumpets and yom kipper are 0 times before 1948, 6 times after 1948 leaving a seventh time this year and 0 times after this year. I can't explain it better than that and he says it more clearly on the video.

And @Kem also brings up the math that Britt Gillette deals with. That the 2550 exact number of days only happening 6 times after 1948 and the seventh being this year. That sounds amazing, and thankfully Britt looked up that claim, and it's not true.

So even though he meant to encourage, he's teaching bad theology and he's repeated some math without checking and seeing that it is faulty or he's tortured the numbers as Britt said, to make them come out right. Both points mean he is not credible.

Date setting is a problem. It harms our Christian witness. Just because we don't tell our friends that we think it might be Sept 23, doesn't mean that the world isn't watching, mocking and causing hope to die in people who thought maybe just maybe those Christians were right about salvation, but here they are again waving a false date.

We are not commanded to watch by setting dates.

We are to watch with expectant hopefulness that any time Jesus could appear. We will know the season is near, that much is clear from Scripture, but as for dates, that is pure speculation.

It is fine to encourage each other and speculate on when it might happen. But we need to keep that speculation within Biblical limits too. If someone comes out with a date- they are acting as a prophet, and their prophecies are judged biblicly. If they make math mistakes, those need to be pointed out. If someone has had previous false dates, then their future words are not to be listened to (the OT directions on not listening to a proven false prophet)

I hope it's in the next 5 minutes. It might happen some year on the Feast of Trumpets. But like @mattfivefour carefully said, it could be any year! He wasn't setting a date. He was indicating a time of year- in any year. There's a difference.

Just don't get mad if others don't share that enthusiasm for a particular date.

And especially not at a mod whose job it is to keep things within Biblical boundaries. We volunteer our own time here, take time from our families and other obligations to make sure things run well, that everyone here has a chance to talk about what's on their heart, to ask questions and get feedback. But especially to keep it within Biblical standards.

I'm going to lock this thread so we can all get some sleep and come at this tomorrow after some prayer and reflection.

And apologies to all, I've somehow managed to split this thread into 2. I've locked both for now. Blame my incredibly bad computer skills. Really bad computer skills. I can make stuff happen that shouldn't be possible. Oh well. Let's all get some sleep.

 

[mattfivefour]

apologies to all, I've somehow managed to split this thread into 2. I've locked both for now.

No problem, sis. I've recombined them. I'll leave the unlocking of it to you. Sleeping on the topic may help us return with a constructive discussion.