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Could Christian Nationalism be Gaslighting Christians? What Does ret Gen. Michael Flynn Believe
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Genesis 18:32, 2 Chronicles 7:14, Acts 5:29
There was an ad on TV the other day in which new age/occultism/satanism was being promoted, and the website given during the ad sounded like it was to a Christian organization/church 
Andiamo
Hanging on to the Throne
Thank you Andy. I already saw that. I will watch it again. What I’m wanting to see from him is a warning to Christians to stay away from that movement. Maybe he said this in the video and I forgot.28 minute video of Jack Hibbs addressing the false concerns to his prayer to congress.
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'God gave us Trump': Christian media evangelicals preach a messianic message
NEW YORK (Reuters) - "This is really a battle between good and evil," evangelical TV preacher Hank Kunneman says of the slew of criminal charges facing Donald Trump. "There's something on President Trump that the enemy fears: It's called the anointing."The Nebraska pastor, who was speaking on cable news show "FlashPoint" last summer, is among several voices in Christian media pressing a message of Biblical proportions: The 2024 presidential race is a fight for America's soul, and a persecuted Trump has God's protection.
"They're just trying to bankrupt him. They're trying to take everything he's got. They're trying to put him in prison," author, media personality and self-proclaimed prophet Lance Wallnau said in October on "The Jim Bakker Show", an hour-long daily broadcast that focuses on news and revelations about the end times that it says we are living in.
'God gave us Trump': Christian media evangelicals preach a messianic message
NEW YORK (Reuters) - "This is really a battle between good and evil," evangelical TV preacher Hank Kunneman says of the slew of criminal charges facing Donald Trump. "There's something on President Trump that the enemy fears: It's called the anointing." The Nebraska pastor, who was speaking...
Does anyone actually listen to Jim Bakker? There are a lot of opportunists operating under the Christian banner. It's probably always been that way...
Hol
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Prayer is all that can stop Donald Trump from listening to & following these crazies.
There are patriots who are NAR, R. Catholic, and Reformed who normally wouldn't be in the same camp. It's satanic the way they've found 'unity'.
Here's a timely question: "Are Americans worshiping government over God?" (I don't know who said it, it's featured in the intro to the Jan Markell radio show.)
Believers aren't worshiping govmint over God, but a portion of unbelievers may well be. That likely comes with socialism where govmint is supposedly the solution to all problems.
Andiamo
Hanging on to the Throne
Eric and Lara Trump are on the roster of speakers for these ReAwaken events.https://www.thrivetimeshow.com/reawaken-america-tour/#conference-grid-1
Andiamo
Hanging on to the Throne
The rest of the speakers are a bunch of unsaved people and unsaved/clueless “pastors”.
I can’t stand the thought of being lumped in with these people by the media. There is nothing I can do about it but pray, stay in the Word and speak out whenever I hear someone talking about it.
If we are still here for the election (which I truly hope we are not because I think we are about to see a major attack on Christians because of this) I will fill out my bubble for Trump because I don’t know what else to do.
Again, what a mess!!!
I can’t stand the thought of being lumped in with these people by the media. There is nothing I can do about it but pray, stay in the Word and speak out whenever I hear someone talking about it.
If we are still here for the election (which I truly hope we are not because I think we are about to see a major attack on Christians because of this) I will fill out my bubble for Trump because I don’t know what else to do.
Again, what a mess!!!
Andiamo
Hanging on to the Throne
It has. But up until now it’s been for money-making. This is different.
Eric Nicholas
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Oh, I don't miss any of this at all. I'm one of the odd ducks out when it comes to Trumpy Bear. The extent of my commentary on any of it will be when I make fun of it live during the debates. 
Everlasting Life
By grace, through faith in Jesus
In difficult, political times there's always that desperate temptation by the populous to look for a leader to place faith and allegiance to for rescue.
Unfortunately it's most often a human leader over and above Jesus Christ, God the Son.
So, a way to seque political talk to communicate understanding for one's desire for a truly good leader (without bashing any current human leaders....remember God's permitted and/or placed those leaders in position for His greater purposes, one reason is it being seen that the hoped in leader is not the answer), is to be pointing to the Leader Who can truly be trusted, eternally.....Jesus Christ.
I think this both counters false assurance in human leaders and false teachings, while pointing to the greater need, faith in Jesus Christ.
It's hard to see what's happening politically and religiously.....but then we are told these things will happen. It's greiving to see but God's prophetic Word is proving true as this age is drawing to a close.
Yes, the church needs to warn and also be alert to false teachings and movements. I believe sharing God's truth is what does this.
Someone I know communicated to me the agreement or the interesting thought that Trump might be the antichrist. God impressed upon me not to either defend or contend against Trump but rather use the Sword of the Spirit, God's Word, His truth, for the greater spiritual understanding.
My response was to share what the Bible says about the antichrist and let this person come to their own conclusions.
That truth being that the whole world will be in awe, support and great favor towards the antichrist, hanging on every word and overwhelmingly approving of him, whether democrat, republican, American, Middle Eastern, European, etc. He will actually unite the world rather than divide, for he will speak the world's values and ways. I could see this gave pause for thought and by God's grace I was able to get past defenses and world views.
It reminds me of Ephesians 6:
For our struggle is not against flesh and blood [contending only with physical opponents], but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this [present] darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly (supernatural) places.
Therefore, put on the complete armor of God, so that you will be able to [successfully] resist and stand your ground in the evil day [of danger], and having done everything [that the crisis demands], to stand firm [in your place, fully prepared, immovable, victorious].
So stand firm and hold your ground, having tightened the wide band of truth (personal integrity, moral courage) around your waist and having put on the breastplate of righteousness (an upright heart), and having strapped on your feet the gospel of peace in preparation [to face the enemy with firm-footed stability and the readiness produced by the good news].
Above all, lift up the [protective] shield of faith with which you can extinguish all the flaming arrows of the evil one. And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the Word of God.
With all prayer and petition pray [with specific requests] at all times [on every occasion and in every season] in the Spirit, and with this in view, stay alert with all perseverance and petition [interceding in prayer] for all God’s people.
Vs 12-18 AMP
As far as God's and our reputation as His followers, we are told that there will be those who'll slander 'the way':
But there were also false prophets in Israel, just as there will be false teachers among you. They will cleverly teach destructive heresies and even deny the Master who bought them. In this way, they will bring sudden destruction on themselves. Many will follow their evil teaching and shameful immorality. And because of these teachers, the way of truth will be slandered. In their greed they will make up clever lies to get hold of your money. But God condemned them long ago, and their destruction will not be delayed.
2 Peter 2:1-3
God's faithful to display and share His truth through His creation, mankind's conscience and His Word.
For the sake of those God's calling, we need to simply share His truth (being careful not to be diverted in reaction mode but rather offensively utilizing the Sword of the Spirit, Gods Word, His Truth.....God will guide in this).
You can be sure that God will preserve His reputation, His Word's and ours.
I know this by experience. In a couple of situations in my life I could've panicked, scrambled in reaction mode, spinning my wheels because of my deep concern for loved ones and my highly, falsely slandared reputation by others. It's been tricky to navigate.
God impressed upon my heart to calmly stand on His Word (not necessarily contending over the issues of the day, that turns into an unproductive black hole in my situation), sharing at strategic moments and prayerfully trusting the outcomes to Him. This has proved in the long run to be the most effective. One situation I'm trusting God for possibly after I'm not here and called home to be with the Lord.
However, the difficult situations only served to show God's the better way to others in my life, who then have seen the truth for themselves. Some have returned and asked for forgiveness, showing God's work in their hearts...praise God!
Unfortunately it's most often a human leader over and above Jesus Christ, God the Son.
So, a way to seque political talk to communicate understanding for one's desire for a truly good leader (without bashing any current human leaders....remember God's permitted and/or placed those leaders in position for His greater purposes, one reason is it being seen that the hoped in leader is not the answer), is to be pointing to the Leader Who can truly be trusted, eternally.....Jesus Christ.
I think this both counters false assurance in human leaders and false teachings, while pointing to the greater need, faith in Jesus Christ.
It's hard to see what's happening politically and religiously.....but then we are told these things will happen. It's greiving to see but God's prophetic Word is proving true as this age is drawing to a close.
Yes, the church needs to warn and also be alert to false teachings and movements. I believe sharing God's truth is what does this.
Someone I know communicated to me the agreement or the interesting thought that Trump might be the antichrist. God impressed upon me not to either defend or contend against Trump but rather use the Sword of the Spirit, God's Word, His truth, for the greater spiritual understanding.
My response was to share what the Bible says about the antichrist and let this person come to their own conclusions.
That truth being that the whole world will be in awe, support and great favor towards the antichrist, hanging on every word and overwhelmingly approving of him, whether democrat, republican, American, Middle Eastern, European, etc. He will actually unite the world rather than divide, for he will speak the world's values and ways. I could see this gave pause for thought and by God's grace I was able to get past defenses and world views.
It reminds me of Ephesians 6:
For our struggle is not against flesh and blood [contending only with physical opponents], but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this [present] darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly (supernatural) places.
Therefore, put on the complete armor of God, so that you will be able to [successfully] resist and stand your ground in the evil day [of danger], and having done everything [that the crisis demands], to stand firm [in your place, fully prepared, immovable, victorious].
So stand firm and hold your ground, having tightened the wide band of truth (personal integrity, moral courage) around your waist and having put on the breastplate of righteousness (an upright heart), and having strapped on your feet the gospel of peace in preparation [to face the enemy with firm-footed stability and the readiness produced by the good news].
Above all, lift up the [protective] shield of faith with which you can extinguish all the flaming arrows of the evil one. And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the Word of God.
With all prayer and petition pray [with specific requests] at all times [on every occasion and in every season] in the Spirit, and with this in view, stay alert with all perseverance and petition [interceding in prayer] for all God’s people.
Vs 12-18 AMP
As far as God's and our reputation as His followers, we are told that there will be those who'll slander 'the way':
But there were also false prophets in Israel, just as there will be false teachers among you. They will cleverly teach destructive heresies and even deny the Master who bought them. In this way, they will bring sudden destruction on themselves. Many will follow their evil teaching and shameful immorality. And because of these teachers, the way of truth will be slandered. In their greed they will make up clever lies to get hold of your money. But God condemned them long ago, and their destruction will not be delayed.
2 Peter 2:1-3
God's faithful to display and share His truth through His creation, mankind's conscience and His Word.
For the sake of those God's calling, we need to simply share His truth (being careful not to be diverted in reaction mode but rather offensively utilizing the Sword of the Spirit, Gods Word, His Truth.....God will guide in this).
You can be sure that God will preserve His reputation, His Word's and ours.
I know this by experience. In a couple of situations in my life I could've panicked, scrambled in reaction mode, spinning my wheels because of my deep concern for loved ones and my highly, falsely slandared reputation by others. It's been tricky to navigate.
God impressed upon my heart to calmly stand on His Word (not necessarily contending over the issues of the day, that turns into an unproductive black hole in my situation), sharing at strategic moments and prayerfully trusting the outcomes to Him. This has proved in the long run to be the most effective. One situation I'm trusting God for possibly after I'm not here and called home to be with the Lord.
However, the difficult situations only served to show God's the better way to others in my life, who then have seen the truth for themselves. Some have returned and asked for forgiveness, showing God's work in their hearts...praise God!
Andiamo
Hanging on to the Throne
Great advice thank you.
VERY wise advice, sister. Thank you for sharing it.
GLC11
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Thankful for this thread since this term “Christian Nationalist” has been coming up so much this week with many things I read and hear
GLC11
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Love this!
Lance Wallnau should ring warning bells- he is a big figure in the NAR. The NAR and the Dominionist movements are big on the "7 mountain mandate" which believes that Christians have a God given duty to transform the 7 mountains of culture into a "christian" society. It's hard to type on this machine, but those refer to govt, arts, and 5 other areas.
from a search:
What are the 7 Mountains of Influence explained?
The Seven Mountains of Influence are the primary spheres of culture that make up a nation. They are: business, arts/entertainment, media, government, family, education, and religion.
Not by teaching about the Cross and our need to get saved. By taking over these aspects of the culture and FORCING christianity (or their version) on the masses. Dominionists teach that Christ won't return till this is done. It's why getting into govt or influencing leaders in govt is so important to these people.
It's been around for a while. I remember hearing about it back in the early 90s.
We FORCE the culture into compliance. Stomp them into submission. Then present a christianized world to Christ. Who is finally able to come back.
It is a gospel of WORKS from the get go, no salvation message, just purest works.
It elevates man, and denigrates Christ!
from a search:
What are the 7 Mountains of Influence explained?
The Seven Mountains of Influence are the primary spheres of culture that make up a nation. They are: business, arts/entertainment, media, government, family, education, and religion.
Not by teaching about the Cross and our need to get saved. By taking over these aspects of the culture and FORCING christianity (or their version) on the masses. Dominionists teach that Christ won't return till this is done. It's why getting into govt or influencing leaders in govt is so important to these people.
It's been around for a while. I remember hearing about it back in the early 90s.
We FORCE the culture into compliance. Stomp them into submission. Then present a christianized world to Christ. Who is finally able to come back.
It is a gospel of WORKS from the get go, no salvation message, just purest works.
It elevates man, and denigrates Christ!
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