Charlie Kirk shot at Utah Valley University.

[mattfivefour]

I think most practiced hunters could've made that shot.

True.

 

[Amethyst]

When it comes to violence or weapons
I trust our retired military personnel on this forum more than any article or journalist

 

[Cheeky200386]

When it comes to violence or weapons
I trust our retired military personnel on this forum more than any article or journalist

Same here. I’ve been asking my husband as a law enforcement officer and that has been a blessing.

 

[Hol]

Israeli Artist Dudi Shoval Paints Giant Mural of Charlie Kirk in Tel Aviv​

Israeli graffiti artist Dudi Shoval has painted a giant mural of Charlie Kirk in Tel Aviv as a tribute to the late conservative commentator and youth leader, and in appreciation for his support for Israel over the years.

Shoval, whose work graces many walls in Tel Aviv, wrote that he was heartbroken at the news of Kirk’s assassination on Wednesday.

In a post on Instagram, he wrote in Hebrew (via Google Translate):

Your fan forever Charlie

If the world is divided into good and evil, then today we lost a very important person on the side of the good..

I still can’t believe they managed to silence you.

May we continue Charlie’s path and never give in to crazy anarchists using violence to silence and wipe us off the map.

We really need you to continue watching over us from above.

May his memory be blessed ️

Israeli Artist Dudi Shoval Paints Giant Mural of Charlie Kirk in Tel Aviv

Israeli graffiti artist Dudi Shoval has painted a giant mural of Charlie Kirk in Tel Aviv as a tribute to the late conservative youth leader.

www.breitbart.com

 

[1LoverofGod]

Tyler Robinson Linked to Antifa Discord Calls for Christian Extermination​

Tyler Robinson has been linked to multiple Antifa Discord groups that reportedly called for the extermination of Christians. The allegations surfaced today, sparking widespread outrage and concern among religious communities.

These revelations raise significant questions about the extent of Robinson"s involvement with extremist ideologies. According to sources, discussions within these groups included violent rhetoric directed at Christians, which has alarmed both law enforcement and civil rights organizations.

Robinson"s connections to these groups come amid a broader national dialogue on the rise of political extremism. This week, the arrest of a suspect in a high-profile case involving right-wing commentator Charlie Kirk has drawn attention to the potential dangers associated with radical movements, as highlighted in recent developments related to the ongoing debate over free speech and hate speech.

Tyler Robinson Linked to Antifa Discord Calls for Christian Extermination

"Breaking: Tyler Robinson linked to Antifa Discord groups calling for Christian extermination. Discover the alarming implications and community reactions today."

demstate.com

 

[dwb]

I read that Charlie was wearing a bullet proof vest under his white T-shirt the bullet ricocheted off of the bullet proof vest, and went upward to get his neck. It sounds like he was aiming for his heart area.

From the article:


Soldiers are carefully trained to aim at what’s called “center mass.” This is a point where the ribcage meets the diaphragm – the largest vulnerable target in the human body. Combat snipers are taught to aim for a “kill shot” that either shreds the human heart or pierces the skull, destroying the brain within. Either of those targets lead to almost instant destruction of one of the two most vulnerable organs in the body. A shot to either one is followed by an almost instantaneous death. They are not trained to hit the carotid. Nobody trains for such a shot, not the best snipers. It’s just too chancy.

There are other reasons for all but the most seasoned professional snipers or master target shooters to aim for anything but “center mass.”

While shots to the neck can deliver one-shot, one-kill performance, they are fraught with risk. Keep in mind that hearts and heads are remarkably small targets, even when seen through a sniper scope. Factors that can cause shooters to miss include the weight of the bullet, ambient wind speed, especially cross-winds – which pushes a bullet off course – and gravity. That latter factor is especially important when the shooter is lying on a building’s flat roof, targeting someone who is well below the shooter’s platform. Unless you’ve really practiced in the skills for downward shooting, you really can’t imagine how much gravity affects the barrel-to-target shot.

Deer hunters make a shot to vital areas about the same size as a human head at 200 yards all the time. I'm no expert, but have made similar shots hunting and on the range. Of course, you need a good sighted in rifle such as a .30-06 or .270 with a scope. That round would only drop about 3" at 200 yards. Most hunters will sight their rifles in at about 2" high at 100 yards so they can aim dead on anywhere from 50-300 yards without compensating and still hit the vitals. A good hunter would not even attempt that shot with iron sights.

 

[3Nails4Given]

If the weapon used was a WW2 Mauser , I thought that weapon fired an 8mm round not 30/06.

After the war many of them were imported and sporterized, rechambered, for common hunting cartridges in the United States.

 

[Almost Heaven]

4.1 magnitude earthquake hits Uinta Basin just west of Vernal in eastern Utah​

VERNAL, Utah (KUTV) — A 4.1 magnitude earthquake hit the Uinta Basin, just west of Vernal.

The earthquake struck at approximately 5:57 p.m. on Wednesday, at a depth of 42 miles.


This is a little more than 100 miles from the site of the murder. Charlie was shot a bit past noon on the same day!
Make of it what you will.
Love Hugs and prayers for all that are grieving!

 

[Andy C]

Deer hunters make a shot to vital areas about the same size as a human head at 200 yards all the time. I'm no expert, but have made similar shots hunting and on the range. Of course, you need a good sighted in rifle such as a .30-06 or .270 with a scope. That round would only drop about 3" at 200 yards. Most hunters will sight their rifles in at about 2" high at 100 yards so they can aim dead on anywhere from 50-300 yards without compensating and still hit the vitals. A good hunter would not even attempt that shot with iron sights.

In the Marines, we annually had to qualify with the M16 and targets were at 200, 300, and 500 yards - with no scope.

 

[Everlasting Life]

According to sources, discussions within these groups included violent rhetoric directed at Christians, which has alarmed both law enforcement and civil rights organizations.

Interesting that civil rights organizations are described as "alarmed".

So, for America with it's Christian Heritage, yes, this is unsettling and to some shocking.

But, if Jesus was mistreated so too will we be so.

This is not our home, we are but aliens and pilgrims here. So, like Jesus, seeking our Father in prayer for His mighty help, strength, power and supernatural guidance and clear leading in how to move forward in His will, without compromise, is essential.

Earthly comforts is not priority, the great commission is. Remembering we are not given a spirit of fear and timidity, but of love and power and self discipline.

Just as Jesus' time was not up until his work was done, so too our Heavenly Father will preserve our earthly lives until His Work through us is finished. And, He equips His children for the work at hand, His work of reflecting the love of Jesus through the Gospel. And, it's not by human might or power but by the Spirit of God:


Then he said to me, “This is what the Lord says to Zerubbabel: It is not by force nor by strength, but by my Spirit, says the Lord of Heaven’s Armies. Zechariah 4:6

May the Lord strengthen us as we depend on Him, guide us as we look to Him and comfortingly encourage us as we rest in Him.

 

[Tall Timbers]

I think most practiced hunters could've made that shot.

I've never considered myself a good shot, but I reloaded my bullets and studied the expected trajectory of those bullets, especially the ones I might go hunting with. The bullet doesn't fly in a straight line, but can be at the same point above the earth at more than one distance. For example, one load I had I could practice with a target at 50 yards for a shot at 200 yards (It's been a long time so the distances might not be accurate). My reloading manuals had all that kind of information in them. That's shooting across an area that is more or less level. I once brought down a caribou that was so far away that I couldn't see it except when looking through the scope. I was on higher ground. The kill shot was aimed several feet above the animal. I had to keep raising my aim until I finally burst its heart on the third shot. That rifle was a 300 win mag with a scope.

At the distance this shot was taken from, with the seated target, there was a lot of room for error so long as you aimed towards the top middle of your target. The shooter probably attempted a shot to the head but if he was experienced with the rifle and load it could have been a neck shot that just went a little wide to the right

 

[LightOfMyLife]

Does anyone know why he targeted Charlie Kirk? I am just now catching up on what is going on after having breakfast. So glad they caught this guy. So that Charlie is gone, and feel so bad for his wife, children, and other family members mom and dad.

 

[Mary Cole]

In the Marines, we annually had to qualify with the M16 and targets were at 200, 300, and 500 yards - with no scope.

I was a deadly shot with a. 38 making expert 3 times. I missed expert by 2/3 of one point with an M16.

 

[Cheeky200386]

Does anyone know why he targeted Charlie Kirk? I am just now catching up on what is going on after having breakfast. So glad they caught this guy. So that Charlie is gone, and feel so bad for his wife, children, and other family members mom and dad.

It looks like the killer was part of an Antifa Discord group that promoted the extermination of Christians.

 

[TCC]

I’m devastated by Charlie Kirk’s death but he is one of many martyrs being killed in this day and age, sadly. Just go to North Korea, China, the Middle East and you’ll see many others. I don’t think his means something is just starting of Biblical Proportions.

It’s another sign of the growing hatred towards Christians in the Western World that was once Christendom. I fully expected to hear of more church shootings from now until the rapture. Especially if the LGBT mafia continue to lose their stranglehold on the culture and youth. They will not go away silently.

I want to believe in a National Revival but I just don’t see it.

I understand that it is likely that the left will get increasingly violent losing their grip on social erosion. No violence needed if you own the town (the police department, the post office, the courthouse the schools etc.). Although I agree that a general attitude shift in culture against Christianity has occurred in the West, there has also been waves of people also moving toward a belief in God outside the West. Africa, Asia, and Latin America and the Middle East have been increasing in Christianity. Although in general America has swung left because of media control plus other factors, overflow from COVID and trusting less in this world system due to such hype realized, had also brought a wave of people away from unbelief to belief or consideration of a good God is being real. Like we saw in cases of some new agers (JP) move away from new age toward considering the real Christ. In America, it is likely any changes toward good would be slow because we have been a nation of a lot of distractions. And a certain hardness would seem to come with that naturally.

I don't really view Kirk's death as anything, in my estimation, unusual for where we are. It did surprise me. And I do think leftist hostilities are "up," yes. But with everything being eroded from the left, I would actually have expected quite a bit more. They are losing significant ground all over the place. Financially, media wise, and political power wise. The left have customarily operated from demonizing, winning at any means, deceiving politically, enlarging government to secure their power, infiltrating education systems, the FBI, the CIA etc. Their long range strategies have always been subterfuge. That is the M.O. For example I believe the death of Supreme Court Justice Scalia was just another power move. To me, the surprise is not that the left becomes more violent. But rather that they find themselves to have increasingly need to do so. A testimony of the pains of losing ground.

As for @Ronnie I do share his optimism, but for slightly different reasons. I would understand God pouring out His spirit upon all flesh to initial be the 1st century. And secondarily Israel in the tribulation at the 6th seal, that also seals the 144k for the trumpet judgements. I used to believe that those verses from Amos were for the end time age of grace for gentiles. But I would see it as Israel during the tribulation makes the most biblical sense to me. However, even so, whatever controversy there might be over some said coming great awakening, I would just sense to be conquering shift over globalism. In my estimation that would not be a revival. Some fear if there is something like that to come it would be a false new age revival. My take on that if it goes in that direction is that that period in time would be primed for people to believe in Christ because of such strong global shifting in all of our faces. The biblical leg I stand on is a bit flimsier than if God might pour out His spirit in the end time age of grace. But the verses concerning His charactor regarding closure of the age of grace for me would be:

• Ezekiel 18:23
• Hosea 11:9
• Numbers 20:12-13

We see God not as excited about the tribulation as evangelicals can tend to be. We see God not like us. And we see God defining "Holy" as being kind to an underserving generation. To me it would just seem that a certain % of evangelical eschatologicl concept be ground largely in discerning evil, or the antichrist (which I would generically see as off kilter templates by which to view through). Whereas, I believe the overarching hermenuetic = discerning God, and His Sovereign character over His ending of the age of grace. Evangelicalism would seem to bottleneck eschatology unto a tribulation flower. Whereas alternatively, the whole of scripture greater testifies to His great an powerful sovereign nature throughout the entirety of the Bible, is how i might process much of that. Blessings.

 

[LightOfMyLife]

It looks like the killer was part of an Antifa Discord group that prompted the extermination of Christians.

I just read that they are calling him a white Christian Mormon from a Republican family. The Mormon church is not Christian. They have false teachings.telegraph.com/?p=676

 

[Ronnie]

I would understand God pouring out His spirit upon all flesh to initial be the 1st century.

The first century is not the last days!

It shall come to past in the “”last days” I will
pour my Spirit out. It’s coming though deniers abound.

 

[Baby Yoda]

Fox News was just saying they have reports that teenagers are watching the video (the killing part) over and over. Sick behavior.

Here is a related article, about a college class where they passed the video around and laughed.

 

[are you ready]

Tyler Robinson,22 has been confirmed as the suspect in the shooting of Charlie Kirk.The governor said a family member was the one who ID'd him from a picture that was that was shown on TV.



www.newsmax.com/us/tyler-robinson-charlie-kirk/2025/09/12/id/1226179/

 

[Andiamo]

Tyler Robinson Linked to Antifa Discord Calls for Christian Extermination​

Tyler Robinson has been linked to multiple Antifa Discord groups that reportedly called for the extermination of Christians. The allegations surfaced today, sparking widespread outrage and concern among religious communities.

These revelations raise significant questions about the extent of Robinson"s involvement with extremist ideologies. According to sources, discussions within these groups included violent rhetoric directed at Christians, which has alarmed both law enforcement and civil rights organizations.

Robinson"s connections to these groups come amid a broader national dialogue on the rise of political extremism. This week, the arrest of a suspect in a high-profile case involving right-wing commentator Charlie Kirk has drawn attention to the potential dangers associated with radical movements, as highlighted in recent developments related to the ongoing debate over free speech and hate speech.

Tyler Robinson Linked to Antifa Discord Calls for Christian Extermination

"Breaking: Tyler Robinson linked to Antifa Discord groups calling for Christian extermination. Discover the alarming implications and community reactions today."

demstate.com

Ok then. That makes our brother, Charlie Kirk, a martyr. Glory to God! We will all see him get that crown.