Canadian Prime Minister Mark Carney accused of plagiarism in his Oxford thesis

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MSN

Canadian Prime Minister Mark Carney has been accused of plagiarizing parts of his Oxford University thesis on the economy just weeks before voters will decide whether he should continue in his role.

The accusations were reportedly made by three academics chosen to assess the liberal leader’s 1995 theses for his doctorate by the conservative newspaper the National Post.

 

[Margery]

Yes, and he has a trail of "issues" that create an ugly picture.

He is a friend of the late Epstein. Guilt by association isn't nice. But birds of a feather flock together. No good thing comes from Epstein Island.

He is a known member of the WEF and has helped to destroy the economies he's touched in the past.

He is worse than Trudeau, and in fact helped craft Trudeau's economic strategies that have led to the mess we are in.

He has ties to Chinese Communist Party funding inside Liberal politics and has been a partner in crime with Trudeau in squashing these coming out into the public eye

He continues to double down against the independent free press in Canada who are NOT on the govt payroll.

And just the other day this came out. - YouTube

and this - YouTube

It is not a pretty picture.

FWIW I already came to the conclusion that the MP in that first video came to. Before I saw it. And already I saw the same things Pierre Poilievre sees that Brian Lilley points out in the second video. They simply confirmed what I was seeing. Betrayal from the highest offices in Canada.

Carney is a man with deep globalist WEF ties. Ties that lead to Chinese interference in our elections in the past and in the very Liberal party decision to cast him as the Liberal leader, current Prime Minister and probable future PM of Canada.

Let that sink in a moment. It isn't the worst.

The implication alone of that first video - she is one of our sitting MPs- so she is part of the Federal govt, representing Alberta, not some bimbo with a crackpot idea and a YT channel. Add in Pierre Poilievre the leader of the Conservatives, what he sees, it's NOT a good picture.

This is why I've come to the conclusion as I've stated on other threads dealing with Canada and also with the economic crisis- that I don't see any future where Canada remains a sovereign nation. I don't actually expect Americans to follow my train of thought here, it's complicated but the end result keeps coming up the same. Canada is due to fold over the next 3-4 years or so. Certainly by the time the Tribulation starts and sadly before that.

I HOPE I AM WRONG!

Due to media manipulation this won't get enough traction even in Canada. If you thought America was bad, here most of our media is bought off by tax dollar bribes to give the stories the PM's office wants. This won't surface till AFTER the election when Carney gets crowned king thanks to Chinese and other interested parties manipulating our election process.

Carney is as I thought, pure poison for Canada, wrapping himself in the Canadian flag, acting like he's for Canada when he's sold us to the highest bidder several times over.

I don't like to think about it, talk about but I am honest about it- this is what I see. As I said, I don't see any future where Canada survives as an independent nation unless God intervenes. Even if God intervenes, and Poilievre wins the election this will be a temporary reprieve at best!

I pray God does intervene. I will do my best, praying and voting like the life of my country depends on it. But I'm a realist.

 

[Tall Timbers]

This is why I've come to the conclusion as I've stated on other threads dealing with Canada and also with the economic crisis- that I don't see any future where Canada remains a sovereign nation. I don't actually expect Americans to follow my train of thought here, it's complicated but the end result keeps coming up the same. Canada is due to fold over the next 3-4 years or so. Certainly by the time the Tribulation starts and sadly before that.

Hopefully Canada's govmint doesn't sell the country to China to enrich themselves...

 

[Margery]

Hopefully Canada's govmint doesn't sell the country to China to enrich themselves...

They already did! It's all over Rebel News and some of the more independent news outlets, the CSIS investigation shows the interference but Trudeau and now Carney are preventing a public investigation. The Liberals tried to box Poilievre in by offering to read him in on the papers that CSIS came up with, but that was a trap because once he's read in, he can't mention anything or criticise because that is breach of confidence and then they can arrest him and stop his political campaign to be PM in this next election.

We were sold out to China. And they have a proven track record that affected the last election for sure with about 10 MP's and Trudeau! But so far Trudeau and Carney won't allow the CSIS report out that would name those 10 traitors, and show us all what Trudeau is- before this election.

It's another reason that election is happening when and how it is. But there's more than China involved. And it's not pretty. But politics seldom is.

Bottom line, I think I'd rather have Kamala Harris than Mark Carney! And that is saying a LOT!

 

[Margery]

It's more important to look at what people do rather than what they say they do or say they will do. Trump's actions line up with his statements. He is truthful. Carney is NOT.

Everything in the political drama playing out in the news right now in Canada is a theatre piece. Remember to look at what people DO, not what they say. When watching a magician doing a trick on stage, don't look where your attention is directed, look at the OTHER hand to see what's going on. Look beyond the smoke and mirrors, and never where your attention is directed.

There are 2 reactions to be concerned about.

Mark Carney has been endorsed by Trump and Carney is playing out a theatre act saying he is acting on behalf of Canada (rather than the truth, he is acting on behalf of China, and his stock portfolio, and most of all climate change and other leftist "values" that his buddies at the WEF world economic forum told him were important to him. Yes, he's a WEF puppet.)

and Pierre Poilievre who is aligned with what Trump says he believes in- a conservative approach reducing debt, strong borders, national interests against the interests of people like the WEF, increasing military spending, finally meeting our commitment to NATO, and eliminating the flow of migrants into Canada and across the border to the US, PLUS eliminating the drug smuggling across that border- no matter which side it's coming from. What's not to love?????

so WHY is Trump endorsing Carney???

That is the 64 million dollar question!

That is puzzling unless you take Trump at his word in this interview here on Fox's Ingraham Angle with host Laura Ingraham - YouTube

Trump endorsed CARNEY- the environmental lunatic, beholden to China, a WEF puppet on the string. Sadly that lines up with his stated intent to break Canada financially. The BEST way to do that is to support Carney, make him look good, make him look like Carney is working with Trump to make the whole thing go away. Just wait a little, and Carney will destroy Canada economically or even faster if the recent phone call between Trump and Carney was Carney's compliance to Trump prior to the election.

Trump can out think Carney any day of the week and twice on Sundays.

Carney mostly lets Klaus Schwab do his thinking for him. His book that Jordan Peterson gave a scathing review of in the National Post, outlines the WEF program as his own ideas pretty much- from what I gather- I haven't bothered to read it. Boring leftist drivel from all indicators, nothing of any real substance. And then the environmental climate change agenda he loves! Saint Greta Thunberg should be proud of her acolyte.

Trump's objection to Poilievre- who does everything Trump says Trump stands for, is puzzling ---until you factor in Poilievre's potential to strengthen Canada economically and then it all makes sense. If you want to buy real estate and you can ensure it's devalued before the price is set, then you get a bargain.

This IS a real estate deal after all.

Water rights, timber, oil, and POTASH. That is one mineral essential for fertilizer that only Canada and Belarus has in abundance. All the fertilizer used around the planet comes from Belarus - a Russian satellite or CANADA. And then the other minerals. Coal too. There is a wealth of resources. 1/3 of all the oil America uses for fuel right now comes from Canada, all of the Potash for the fertilizer. Uranium, rare earth minerals, the list goes on. This is a deal about assets.


Now add in what that short 8 minute video I linked above says. - YouTube
The head of a financial company, linked to Carney quietly announced that Canada would fold to all Trump's demands shortly after the election. If Carney wins. REALLY? That sounds like a deal was already struck!

This is the quote:
"I expect Ottawa will quietly fold shortly after the vote to ensure that ongoing relations with the US remain functional" from the head of this firm linked to Carney!

This Alberta MP explains that the Liberals under Carney have done NOTHING to deal with the tariffs while saying that they are going all out to oppose Trump's tariffs. Actions, not words matter.

It sure lines up with what Trump said in that interview. It also explains a lot about that phone call between Carney and Trump the other day.

I believe this Alberta MP, and I believe Trump. Those 2 have a record of telling the truth.

Carney is playing a theatre role, Poilievre is telling the truth but he is currently losing to the dog and pony show of Carney.

This is what concerns me about Carney.

It's not just that the Chinese Communist Party supported him (and Trudeau) (and influenced several elections), including the leadership of the Liberals. China has an interest in Canada, they control 10 Liberal MPs sitting in Parliament right now. They have their own agenda, ensuring the CCP has a controlling interest in America's northern neighbour AND her closest ally to date.

In addition to that troubling aspect from China, Carney has sold Canada to Trump but the price paid will not be Statehood which I think would be preferable.

It will be to Carney's benefit, and his pocket and the pockets of the various holding companies like the one the Alberta MP quoted. It will NOT BE TO THE BENEFIT OF THE CANADIAN PEOPLE who are unwittingly walking into this trap. Perhaps we will be allowed to pretend we are a sovereign nation, but it will be a pretense.

Trump has no obligation to the people of Canada. The person who does, has already sold out and the losers are the people of Canada and the one guy who stood up for us- Pierre Poilievre who Trump is actively working against right now.

This is why I think Canada will very shortly fold into the US in some way. We will probably get to pretend to be a separate nation in front of the UN or anytime we need to look separate, but it will be a sham. The reality is we will take our orders from Washington DC under whatever President currently holds that office. It will be to America's benefit, not ours.

We will pay tribute in some way as is the habit of Rome exacting tribute from the nations under her grasp.

History may not repeat but it sure does rhyme as the saying goes.

We will pay a tax to Caesar, a tribute, but no representation will be available to protest if the tax is too much or too harsh or not what we thought we voted for.

Water, timber, oil, coal, uranium, potash. Our dairy industry will be crushed so that the American dairy industry will benefit. Eggs, meat, wheat. It's actually a lot.

Our systems of dairy, meat, chicken and egg production are not large factory farms, but small farmers.

Part of why we don't have to kill off our egg laying chickens like America does. There are real reasons why we are different even tho bird flu affects our chickens the same way. We don't concentrate all our birds in several giant "farms". They are all across Canada. If one farm has to kill off all their birds it doesn't affect the egg supply as a whole. This will make it easier to concentrate big agribusiness farms in Canada too, and eventually stop food production just like the egg crisis in the States shows.

When the big companies control all the food they control all the people. THAT is the end game. Big business is America's employers- American workers depend on big Agra and the big food companies. Those workers are Trump's voters that HE answers to.

But in the end big agriculture and food companies are like the Technocrats, they want control. And when you control the FOOD SUPPLY you control the people. It's happening across the world.

I don't blame Trump for taking advantage of a sweet real estate deal. I do blame Justin Trudeau and Mark Carney. We don't need to attack Trump or America, we need to attack the REAL threat which is the WEF puppet who just assumed the leadership of Canada and is looking like the next PM of Canada.

This is yet another indicator that the time is very short and the Rapture is soon. The whole 10 kings thing. Whether it's geographic (North American Union- underway with the aquisitions of Panama and Greenland, Mexico to be determined, but I wouldn't be surprised) or technocrats - kings without a kingdom exerting power and control way beyond the borders of the nations they belong to. Such as Elon Musk, Bill Gates and others.

It's all about profits for the big guys along with control of weaker nations and businesses.

This is the road to the Tribulation. Little fish swallowed up by bigger fish, till the Rapture happens and the biggest fish emerges with his bid for world domination. It's sad to watch but the good part is

We win in the end. First the RAPTURE, Then the world endures the Tribulation, THEN HE COMES BACK to blow all the evil away, and set up HIS kingdom over the planet, and HIS rule for 1000 years, followed by a brief, very brief rebellion for the final time, which He eliminates, then eternity without any more evil ever.

I can hardly wait.

NEARLY THERE PEOPLE! The signs are flashing all around us now. It might be unpleasant for the moment (like birth pains are) but once this planet is reborn under King Jesus it will all be worth it.

 

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Yes, and he has a trail of "issues" that create an ugly picture.

He is a friend of the late Epstein. Guilt by association isn't nice. But birds of a feather flock together. No good thing comes from Epstein Island.

He is a known member of the WEF and has helped to destroy the economies he's touched in the past.

He is worse than Trudeau, and in fact helped craft Trudeau's economic strategies that have led to the mess we are in.

He has ties to Chinese Communist Party funding inside Liberal politics and has been a partner in crime with Trudeau in squashing these coming out into the public eye

He continues to double down against the independent free press in Canada who are NOT on the govt payroll.

And just the other day this came out. - YouTube

and this - YouTube

It is not a pretty picture.

FWIW I already came to the conclusion that the MP in that first video came to. Before I saw it. And already I saw the same things Pierre Poilievre sees that Brian Lilley points out in the second video. They simply confirmed what I was seeing. Betrayal from the highest offices in Canada.

Carney is a man with deep globalist WEF ties. Ties that lead to Chinese interference in our elections in the past and in the very Liberal party decision to cast him as the Liberal leader, current Prime Minister and probable future PM of Canada.

Let that sink in a moment. It isn't the worst.

The implication alone of that first video - she is one of our sitting MPs- so she is part of the Federal govt, representing Alberta, not some bimbo with a crackpot idea and a YT channel. Add in Pierre Poilievre the leader of the Conservatives, what he sees, it's NOT a good picture.

This is why I've come to the conclusion as I've stated on other threads dealing with Canada and also with the economic crisis- that I don't see any future where Canada remains a sovereign nation. I don't actually expect Americans to follow my train of thought here, it's complicated but the end result keeps coming up the same. Canada is due to fold over the next 3-4 years or so. Certainly by the time the Tribulation starts and sadly before that.

I HOPE I AM WRONG!

Due to media manipulation this won't get enough traction even in Canada. If you thought America was bad, here most of our media is bought off by tax dollar bribes to give the stories the PM's office wants. This won't surface till AFTER the election when Carney gets crowned king thanks to Chinese and other interested parties manipulating our election process.

Carney is as I thought, pure poison for Canada, wrapping himself in the Canadian flag, acting like he's for Canada when he's sold us to the highest bidder several times over.

I don't like to think about it, talk about but I am honest about it- this is what I see. As I said, I don't see any future where Canada survives as an independent nation unless God intervenes. Even if God intervenes, and Poilievre wins the election this will be a temporary reprieve at best!

I pray God does intervene. I will do my best, praying and voting like the life of my country depends on it. But I'm a realist.

So i find 2 videos.

- YouTube

Enjoy the videos and music you love, upload original content, and share it all with friends, family, and the world on YouTube.

www.youtube.com

This one the first 15 minutes is pretty interesting take. If you have time Margery, what would you say?

- YouTube
What is your take on Maxime Brenier?

 

[Margery]

So i find 2 videos.

- YouTube

Enjoy the videos and music you love, upload original content, and share it all with friends, family, and the world on YouTube.

www.youtube.com

This one the first 15 minutes is pretty interesting take. If you have time Margery, what would you say?

- YouTube
What is your take on Maxime Brenier?

The first one says exactly what I just outlined, I agree. Same as the sources I gave. This story is gaining some traction in Canada but likely too late to affect Carney's chances of winning. Most people are going with the CBC version of events that Carney is our hero and Pierre Poilievre is a Trump ally rather than the other way round. Maxime Bernier is a spoiler on the Right- he functions to split the conservative vote, thus ensure that the Conservative party doesn't get elected. Last election too.

The bottom line is that where we are at in the preparation for the Tribulation, I can't see any major "golden" age anywhere on the planet. It's all just prep work for the Trib.

Trump isn't here to MAGA- he is in place by God's command to extend some much needed protection for Israel as she fights the last few battles that will result in her feeling at peace and secure in her borders ready for the Ezek 38 event, which is lining up nicely. America needs to retain her strength financially and militarily till that is done.

The major Trump effect around the world is to get Europe standing on their own without American backing in NATO for example, that sets up the Rome 2.0 version of Europe that we see in the Bible. But the EU version of Rome 2.0 won't be ready in time to challenge Russia for dominance as we see in Ezek 38 where the only people that speak up at all, and it's a pretty weak question- have you come for spoil , comes from Sheba and Dedan and Tarshish and her young lions (that certainly fits a group known as the 5 eyes)

AFTER God deals with the Russian Turkish Iranian coalition in Ezek 38 (Elam comes before that, but Iran is not wiped out yet) then Europe can rise to prominence, also considering America being weakened AFTER the Rapture.

Trump is also shaking up the Middle East, ensuring that the Abe Accords are in place (that isn't the covenant that Daniel speaks of, it's more like the Sheba and Dedan group in Ez 38) and that is setting things up for the future covenant with the AC. Things are changing there. Essentially Trump is there to set things up ready for action once we are out of here.

At some point we may see the destruction of Elam, the fall of Damascus and the conclusion of some prophecies about Israel taking Lebanese territory up to the Litani River along with stuff in Syria that probably includes Egypt and Jordan to some degree. In short Psalm 83 stuff, plus Isaiah 17 (and Jeremiah 49, Ezek 32 etc)

I say we may, because some of the wording in the Isaiah 17 and other Damascus prophecies looks like God's attention is on Israel. One of the things to keep in mind is that God is usually dealing with the church primarily or Israel primarily with very little crossover. Once we leave in the Rapture, God's full attention is back to Israel, getting them saved as Paul points out in Romans.

So we might be raptured just as the Damascus event of Isaiah 17 takes place. It does seem linked to the Elam thing and both seem to be in play before Ezek 38. Timing is fluid. Elam is the south west section of Iran below the Zagros mountains on the shores of the Persian Gulf. Tehran is north east behind the mountain range. Much of the missile stuff aimed at Israel and the West is located in Elam. Nuclear sites are scattered all over Iran, not just Elam. What we are seeing right now could end up with the fulfillment of the Elam prophecies in Ezek 32 and Jeremiah 49. Those seem linked somewhat esp in Ez 32 to Egypt, Turkey, Jordan, Syria and Lebanon. In short very close to what we see now.

Elam can easily be destroyed without destroying Iran. Turkey, Egypt, Jordan etc can also be found in those passages and like Iran, they could take a hit now, and then Iran, and Turkey can regroup to join Russia in Ezek 38. It's almost like the current war is a trigger for all that.

Once Israel's near ring of enemies is taken care of they can "relax" and little known to them, be there all relaxed and confident for Ezek 38.

Trump as I see it plays a major role right now in setting up all the preconditions. If the Rapture happens in the next year or two, or even in the next 10- Trump's placement is by God's design, not to MAGA but to set up the pre conditions we see in Bible Prophecy.

Canada is a minor player at best, and I think given the circumstances I outline above, we will not be around except as we fold into the North American Union that might be coming when they divvy up the globe into geographic zones.

Also as I outline above, the major mega food and Pharma industries plus the giants of Amazon and google and Apple and Microsoft, multinationals will control more and more of the food supply (Bill Gates is hyper focused on buying up farmland if you notice) in order to Control the Food, then control the people. I just outline how that is happening with the tariffs right now and the old way of farming that Canada is stuck in being destroyed.

This is the coming rule of the technocrats- the elites these giant multinational corporations controlled by a few individuals that are looking a lot like the 10 kings. This tariff stuff is just setting up the preconditions for them to fully take control. They are using their opportunity with Trump to consolidate control of these key industries. By moving manufacturing and control back to the USA where Trump wants. They win the long game, Trump wins the jobs back in the States. Big agriculture, big food, big pharma. No more little people having a say.

 

[Margery]

Oh and I forgot to add the reason WHY China is so interested in Canada apart from the Arctic presence, the border with the USA and all that avails them.

MAIN reason that China controls Canadian politicians and elections (the Liberals) is DRUGS! And money laundering the drug profits from other countries. The Fentenyl (can't spell) trade. The Triads do business here in Canada and down in San Francisco, LA. Those are Chinese gangs that are at the heart of the Chinese Drug trade. Canadian banks have been used (not all of them) at times for money laundering.

That is also why the BC elections here aren't allowed to go to the right, always the left even when there is a recount, it's always razor thin, but the triads have their finger on things. They are the power brokers behind the NDP in BC and the Liberals and NDP across Canada.

The ports of Vancouver and LA are major import areas for the drugs to enter both countries from China, with help from the unions for the dock workers. No shock there. The Triads north and south work together almost seamlessly.

China has a financial interest in the drug trade and a military interest in having a foothold in Canada. Trudeau (and Carney) have been in their pockets for years.

 

[Everlasting Life]

Been keeping Canada in my prayers. I've been deeply sad for what's happening to the Canadian people and pray for God's mercy and tender grace.

Yes, the Rapture is a wonderful grace of God for His Church, may many more become believers in Jesus so they can join us.

 

[Margery]

Been keeping Canada in my prayers. I've been deeply sad for what's happening to the Canadian people and pray for God's mercy and tender grace.

Yes, the Rapture is a wonderful grace of God for His Church, may many more become believers in Jesus so they can join us.

And that Rapture, the Blessed Hope has kept me comforted as I look squarely at what looks to be happening in Canada, to Canada and around the globe. The darker it gets, the closer we are. I really hate talking about what's happening in Canada but it is a fascinating test run for how the democracies of the west will fail and the technocrats, the elites and the owners of the big multinational corporations will take over in their place. The rise of the 10 kings whether that is technocrats or geographical zones or both.

I sure appreciate the prayers for Canada and most especially for the spread of the gospel at this late hour. However long we have left before the Rapture- up to God's mercy and grace, as 2 Peter 3:9 says here:

The Lord is not slack concerning His promise, as some count slackness, but is longsuffering toward us, not willing that any should perish but that all should come to repentance.

Extra time, means extra souls getting saved, that don't have to suffer the Tribulation.

 

[TCC]

The first one says exactly what I just outlined, I agree. Same as the sources I gave. This story is gaining some traction in Canada but likely too late to affect Carney's chances of winning. Most people are going with the CBC version of events that Carney is our hero and Pierre Poilievre is a Trump ally rather than the other way round. Maxime Bernier is a spoiler on the Right- he functions to split the conservative vote, thus ensure that the Conservative party doesn't get elected. Last election too.

The bottom line is that where we are at in the preparation for the Tribulation, I can't see any major "golden" age anywhere on the planet. It's all just prep work for the Trib.

Trump isn't here to MAGA- he is in place by God's command to extend some much needed protection for Israel as she fights the last few battles that will result in her feeling at peace and secure in her borders ready for the Ezek 38 event, which is lining up nicely. America needs to retain her strength financially and militarily till that is done.

The major Trump effect around the world is to get Europe standing on their own without American backing in NATO for example, that sets up the Rome 2.0 version of Europe that we see in the Bible. But the EU version of Rome 2.0 won't be ready in time to challenge Russia for dominance as we see in Ezek 38 where the only people that speak up at all, and it's a pretty weak question- have you come for spoil , comes from Sheba and Dedan and Tarshish and her young lions (that certainly fits a group known as the 5 eyes)

AFTER God deals with the Russian Turkish Iranian coalition in Ezek 38 (Elam comes before that, but Iran is not wiped out yet) then Europe can rise to prominence, also considering America being weakened AFTER the Rapture.

Trump is also shaking up the Middle East, ensuring that the Abe Accords are in place (that isn't the covenant that Daniel speaks of, it's more like the Sheba and Dedan group in Ez 38) and that is setting things up for the future covenant with the AC. Things are changing there. Essentially Trump is there to set things up ready for action once we are out of here.

At some point we may see the destruction of Elam, the fall of Damascus and the conclusion of some prophecies about Israel taking Lebanese territory up to the Litani River along with stuff in Syria that probably includes Egypt and Jordan to some degree. In short Psalm 83 stuff, plus Isaiah 17 (and Jeremiah 49, Ezek 32 etc)

I say we may, because some of the wording in the Isaiah 17 and other Damascus prophecies looks like God's attention is on Israel. One of the things to keep in mind is that God is usually dealing with the church primarily or Israel primarily with very little crossover. Once we leave in the Rapture, God's full attention is back to Israel, getting them saved as Paul points out in Romans.

So we might be raptured just as the Damascus event of Isaiah 17 takes place. It does seem linked to the Elam thing and both seem to be in play before Ezek 38. Timing is fluid. Elam is the south west section of Iran below the Zagros mountains on the shores of the Persian Gulf. Tehran is north east behind the mountain range. Much of the missile stuff aimed at Israel and the West is located in Elam. Nuclear sites are scattered all over Iran, not just Elam. What we are seeing right now could end up with the fulfillment of the Elam prophecies in Ezek 32 and Jeremiah 49. Those seem linked somewhat esp in Ez 32 to Egypt, Turkey, Jordan, Syria and Lebanon. In short very close to what we see now.

Elam can easily be destroyed without destroying Iran. Turkey, Egypt, Jordan etc can also be found in those passages and like Iran, they could take a hit now, and then Iran, and Turkey can regroup to join Russia in Ezek 38. It's almost like the current war is a trigger for all that.

Once Israel's near ring of enemies is taken care of they can "relax" and little known to them, be there all relaxed and confident for Ezek 38.

Trump as I see it plays a major role right now in setting up all the preconditions. If the Rapture happens in the next year or two, or even in the next 10- Trump's placement is by God's design, not to MAGA but to set up the pre conditions we see in Bible Prophecy.

Canada is a minor player at best, and I think given the circumstances I outline above, we will not be around except as we fold into the North American Union that might be coming when they divvy up the globe into geographic zones.

Also as I outline above, the major mega food and Pharma industries plus the giants of Amazon and google and Apple and Microsoft, multinationals will control more and more of the food supply (Bill Gates is hyper focused on buying up farmland if you notice) in order to Control the Food, then control the people. I just outline how that is happening with the tariffs right now and the old way of farming that Canada is stuck in being destroyed.

This is the coming rule of the technocrats- the elites these giant multinational corporations controlled by a few individuals that are looking a lot like the 10 kings. This tariff stuff is just setting up the preconditions for them to fully take control. They are using their opportunity with Trump to consolidate control of these key industries. By moving manufacturing and control back to the USA where Trump wants. They win the long game, Trump wins the jobs back in the States. Big agriculture, big food, big pharma. No more little people having a say.

Thanks Margery. Interesting points. Just to let you know, I still see my view in play, but I'm not as excited about it...lol. Trump often looks like a flat tire. I tend to line the rapture up with Ez 38 because of Rev 12 sequence. Seems to fit the best. But yeah could alternatively be one that is used to reposition all you mentioned? Sure. That leaves a much nastier taste...lol. But yeah. Possible. For sure.

So would you see like Zuckerberg, Bazos, and Musk as 3 of the 10 kings? It kind of has the heu to it. Understandably. Very fascinating view of EU reconstruction. Question, how in the mix of all of that does Israel get more peace and safety though? In the view you described how would you see America? Just used up with technocrats? And Isreal gets strong from that? I mean if the American economy suffers, I don't think America will just let technocrats run everything if we don't benefit. That is just my gut reaction. Trump is good at what he does. But not that good.

It's just that I tend to factor in a place and signature God might want to have in a wrap-up. I'm probably the only person that looks for that in escatology...lol. Is that crazy? Am I crazy? I mean sure it can all go down to solve escatological puzzle pieces. In your scenario what that sounds like is globalism just goes into deeper hiding. Peals away from Davos and becomes technocracy. That is a possibility. But if we really go after the FED and remove income tax (unless that is just hype--which I think would get a lot pushback later), then real trade freedom in the world is possible. Perhaps that is too pollyanish for this late hour?

I guess I am kind of more of the school of like, if most of us are looking for the beast system, it would just seem that what God might do is things orchestrating in ways that don't fit so nicely in our boxes. I mean like America gaining power and influence is the last thing watchers would have expected. In some fashion it seems we have to deal with that on some level. But the writing on the wall was "something God provided we did not see coming." So it would seem Providence to play a part perhaps?

My apology if any of this sounds sulky...lol. I am really appreciative of your views dear sister. I need time too to process them. They are actually pretty marvelous. I am just sometimes feeling the pangs of what I go through behind the scenes to disprove my own views to myself. And sometimes that is pretty jacked up therapy...lol. Soul crushing at times, but kind of necessary. To myself though. And hope that does not leak over. I am interested in how you see things dear sister. But also yeah curious on contrast to some of the point brought up. Blessings

 

[Margery]

But yeah could alternatively be one that is used to reposition all you mentioned? Sure. That leaves a much nastier taste...lol. But yeah. Possible. For sure.

Heheheh, I aim to please. Nasty taste, check! That's why I often say to take me with a grain of salt. It helps with the nasty taste

Jokes aside, I like to look at the worst case scenario because over the years it's usually the one that happens. When I'm wrong I am pleasantly surprised. So I go thru life being pleasantly surprised, or raise my eyebrows and point out how NOT surprised I am.

So would you see like Zuckerberg, Bazos, and Musk as 3 of the 10 kings?

Yes and No both. I like to think in terms of probability rather than black and white, yes or no.

So I assign a higher probability that IF (big IF there) IF the rapture were to occur in the next few months then 10 kings will likely be technocrats- owners of large influential multinational corporations. The Bible does specify, kings without a kingdom, an intriguing clue.

A lesser probability that they are geographic zones such as the one proposed by the Club of Rome in the 50s. Side note one of the early church fathers was convinced that 3 of the 10 kings were Libya, Egypt and one other I can't remember. So the really early church fathers thought of them as national kings/leaders.

The greatest probability in my thinking is that it's a combo. Divvy up the world into economic and political spheres (as I've theorized in my answers above and elsewhere) for ease of administration but have the power concentrated in these large multinational corporation owners. I think it's in this thread I remind everyone that Bill Gates of Microsoft has been buying up all the farmland. Control the food, control the people. Especially if you plan to use war, famine and pestilence (that sounds like Revelation) to depopulate the earth to "acceptable" levels. These people like Gates and others like him who believe in reducing the population to a fraction always make it sound so nice, merciful and sanitary, but then they tip their hands by being involved in Covid or bird flu or Big Agriculture that makes birds susceptible to bird flu from the close quarters they are jammed into.

Question, how in the mix of all of that does Israel get more peace and safety though? In the view you described how would you see America? Just used up with technocrats? And Isreal gets strong from that? I mean if the American economy suffers, I don't think America will just let technocrats run everything if we don't benefit. That is just my gut reaction. Trump is good at what he does. But not that good.

Israel doesn't get peace and safety till just before Ezek 38. Due to words in the text I think that is after the Rapture (I've gone into it on a thread about Ezek 38 here somewhere). Also in the text is a hint that she is at home on the mountains of Israel having endured some kind of recent war. BTW the mountains of Israel are the area called Judea and Samaria which the world calls "The West Bank". In other words, something about that war she just got back from gained her the right to live on her own mountains again, without bars and gates- no walled in kibbutzim in the presence of enemies. She is at ease.

America doesn't buy her that peace and safety, at least not directly. I think if we look at the current situation, USA is threatening Iran, and giving Israel the go ahead to deal with Gaza, Lebanon and Syria.

It's a process. IF (big if again) this is the combination of Isaiah 17, Jeremiah 49, Ezek 32 -last half, and Psalm 83, this is what Bill Salus has written about as being Israel dealing with her near neighbours- the ring of enemies most of whom are not mentioned in Ezek 38. I make bad jokes all the time about Ezek 32 coming before Ezek 38 but it's true. If that is being fulfilled now or in the future, it sets Israel up for that precondition mentioned in Ezek 38.

I think the American economy will bump along like the world economy until such time as the LORD allows it to implode hard enough to bring on the beast system. Till that time we will continue to see market corrections and responses to world events. I'd say read Patrick Woods and JB Hixson to understand why the technocrats are here already, been in position since the Bretton Woods agreement, and before actually, gaining power on BOTH sides of the aisle. We often refer to the "deep state" without understanding that IS the technocracy. In short they are here, and have been for some time.

All Technocracy is, is appointed leaders (like Elon Musk) who are experts (like Fauci) and are given a sphere of influence BY the elected leaders of western democracy. They are the beaurocrats who run the machine within the CIA or the FBI to ensure certain political outcomes. In countries like Russia, China and Cuba, they already do that with varying levels of success because the expert you turn to, and let loose to reshape policy might be smart or ethical or they might be dumb or crooked.

It gets worse by the time the Anti Christ comes on the scene- they have more tools to manipulate things- quantum computing being one. It sounds like a conspiracy theory but it's really not. It's just how Rome fell from within, only this time we have computers and the internet.

It's just that I tend to factor in a place and signature God might want to have in a wrap-up. I'm probably the only person that looks for that in escatology...lol. Is that crazy? Am I crazy?

Not just you, you aren't crazy, that wrap up is outlined in Daniel, Revelation and elsewhere. It's just that when it gets here, the ground work will have already been happening. We aren't here to see the end result but if we were it would be head slap moments and we'd say "SO THAT'S how that fit with Covid, and lock downs, so THAT's how the economic engine across the planet had a hiccup over tariffs and America withdrew from world influence just before the Rapture. So that whole NATO thing that blew up between the USA and EU forced the EU into becoming the new and improved Roman Empire that Daniel wrote about.

In your scenario what that sounds like is globalism just goes into deeper hiding. Peals away from Davos and becomes technocracy. That is a possibility. But if we really go after the FED and remove income tax (unless that is just hype--which I think would get a lot pushback later), then real trade freedom in the world is possible. Perhaps that is too pollyanish for this late hour?

Well if the Lord tarries, you might well be right on this! I'm always looking at the Rapture in the near future so I tend to interpret things based on how it would shake out if it happened tomorrow. Globalism is always hiding in plain sight. Napoleon, Hitler etc were all globalists- they just wanted to be the boss of the globe.

Will we see real trade freedom? Is that possible? Well maybe. If the Rapture was a long way away.

The problem with that is that it doesnt' fit the global control we see prophesied. Real free trade freedom would have all the markets in the world trading and becoming prosperous together. People would see the value in NOT being artificially tied to each other but they'd also not need tariffs. Instead we have a system that works because it's global, and under a small group (the 10 kings) and the AC rises out of the midst.

So at some point before or after the Rapture there is a global crisis big enough that the USA and other nations HAVE to work together on a global system that the AC will use with his mark.

The crisis has to happen for that global need for one world currency and govt.

I guess I am kind of more of the school of like, if most of us are looking for the beast system, it would just seem that what God might do is things orchestrating in ways that don't fit so nicely in our boxes. I mean like America gaining power and influence is the last thing watchers would have expected. In some fashion it seems we have to deal with that on some level. But the writing on the wall was "something God provided we did not see coming." So it would seem Providence to play a part perhaps?

I don't see America gaining power and influence. Right now, the day after Trump announced his April 2 tariffs around the globe I see a lot of turning away from the USA as a power. Since Trump took power he's been telling Europe they are on their own, that America isn't going to rescue them so we see Europe for the first time ever trying to restructure their economhy to PAY FOR THEIR OWN ARMY to protect against Russia.

That is something that fits the reforming of the ancient Roman empire. So the NATO squabble is forcing the EU to form their own army for defense from Russia, and the tariffs are forcing the world economies to stop leaning on the USA to be their market. AND we see the USA turning within it's borders to make what it consumes within it's borders. It's not the world policeman anymore, moving away from that role. Again, forcing the EU into their future role.

Then we saw the rise of the BRICS which is 10 nations that hate the USA or don't want to be under the Petrodollar- the US currency that is how the world buys and sells. The reason sanctions work for the USA is because everything is bought and sold with the US petrodollar- it just means US$ is backed by oil, not gold.

Russia and China started the BRICS with Brazil, India and South Africa partly because of US sanctions and the desire to trade outside the American eagle's eye on their deals. Iran (naturally) joined along with 4 others (all "stans" if I recall) with personal grudges against the US.

Before that we saw Obama give away control of the internet. Just leave it in the hands of the same global corporations like google to manage. That was puzzling for many, but it was another indicator that America was letting go power and control of the world. I think God allowed each President in his term to do things that would set things up for the Tribulation. That internet is how we access web cams, like the ones in Jerusalem that will allow the people of the whole planet to see the 2 Witnesses lying dead, then rising after 3 days.

So we see America isolating herself politically, economically, and militarily. Yesterday's tariffs for whatever reason didn't tariff Russia, Cuba, Iran, Yemen and some other enemies, but did tariff her allies quite sharply. Along with most of the rest of the planet, except her enemies.

The way this makes sense to me, is that God is removing all support for Israel from the rest of the planet. Israel and America stand almost alone (yes Britain, Australia, Canada and New Zealand have your back even if Trump did irritate us and we aren't about to let you suffer on your own- if something happens we are in your corner but for right now that support is weakened considerably)

This is because I think when the Rapture happens, Israel HAS to stand alone. In Ezek 38 the tattered remnants of the 5 Eyes (Brit, Aus, NZ, Can and USA) that are left after the Rapture only give a weak question to Russia in Ezek 38 (have you come for spoil). They are joined by Sheba and Dedan which look like the Abraham Accords. The rest of the planet doesn't want to get in Russia's way and or they hate Israel or they joined Russia because they hate Israel. (Turkey and Iran may have a score to settle if the Ezek 32 and Jer 49 stuff just happened)

You see the support for Israel IS the Trump voter base.

It's the evangelical Christians who still remember that GOD put Israel back in her land, that she is the apple of God's eye and that support is why America still stands with Israel. Even Biden and Obama didn't dare anger the Christians who love Israel enough to cast Israel loose to the Arab wolves.

Since 1948 Israel has known that the US has their back, sometimes better than other times (Kissinger, Obama and Biden were real low points there). But soon God will be dealing with Israel again when the Church is raptured up. Israel must stand alone, and lean on God to survive. She won't, she will make a covenant with the AC but God warns them not to.

As Jan Markell observes, the purpose of the Tribulation is the Salvation of the Jewish Nation.

AND as we often notice, the whole world revolves around that tiny nation over on the shores of the Med.

The Providence you see for America is tied to their support of Israel and their sending forth the gospel to the nations. When those 2 purposes are done (at the Rapture) it's lights out!

My apology if any of this sounds sulky...lol. I am really appreciative of your views dear sister. I need time too to process them. They are actually pretty marvelous. I am just sometimes feeling the pangs of what I go through behind the scenes to disprove my own views to myself. And sometimes that is pretty jacked up therapy...lol. Soul crushing at times, but kind of necessary. To myself though. And hope that does not leak over. I am interested in how you see things dear sister. But also yeah curious on contrast to some of the point brought up. Blessings

Bless you my dear brother you DON'T sound sulky in the least. You have a brain, you aren't afraid to use it, you question, we go back and forth, and we both learn and grow. It's the way it is supposed to work.

LOVE IN CHRIST AS ALWAYS
M