Why Will the World Worship the Antichrist?

[Douggg]

It still is not clear to me what you mean by “The five stages the person will go through on the way to his destruction in the lake of fire are....”

Those who are destined to the lake of fire will either - take the MOB, or refuse to believe in Jesus as their Savior.

Hi Andy C,

Let me try to make an analogy of the five stages.

Let's say a person becomes a city council member, then becomes a mayor, then becomes a governor, then becomes a senator, then finally becomes the President of the United States.

It is the same person all the way through those five stages, but each stage is functionally different.

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Yes, persons who take the mark of the beast's name, his name name, or the number of his name are destined for the lake of fire. Also persons who reject Jesus's death on the cross as atonement for their sins.

 

[KMendel]

Having married into a Jewish family ...... who were not particularly devout ...... I did learn that they expect a Jewish person to come as their messiah.
They unequivically say he will be "just a man", nothing special..... and he will have answers anmd solve issues. Yes, Douggg, in their minds he must be Jewish. I tend to agree with you. He may not claim to be Jewish to the world - I don't know - but, his ancestry thru his mother will most likely come out at some point.

Andy, I don't think Douggg is talking at all about the people en masse............he is talking about one particular person,,,,,,,,,,the antichrist in his different incarnations, maybe,

 

[Andy C]

Hi Andy C,

Let me try to make an analogy of the five stages.

Let's say a person becomes a city council member, then becomes a mayor, then becomes a governor, then becomes a senator, then finally becomes the President of the United States.

It is the same person all the way through those five stages, but each stage is functionally different.

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Yes, persons who take the mark of the beast's name, his name name, or the number of his name are destined for the lake of fire. Also persons who reject Jesus's death on the cross as atonement for their sins.

These are not stages to the lake of fire, but simply events. What do the below events have to do with an individual destined to the lake of fire? There are no stages to the LOF, simply lack of belief in Jesus or the taking MOB will punch their ticket to the LOF.

As the little horn person over a group of ten EU leaders.

2. then as the prince that shall come, into the middle east, following the Gog/Magog event.

3. then as the Antichrist, anointed as the King of Israel, messiah (by the false prophet who the Jews will initially think is the embodiment of Elijah who they are are expecting to come and be a part of the messianic age). Note that the person has to be a Jew for the Jews to think he is their long awaited messiah.

4. then as the revealed man of sin, by the act in 2Thesslaonians2:4, claiming to have achieved God-hood. The Jews will reject his claim and his continuation as their King of Israel. End of his Antichrist stage.

5. then as the beast-king, brought back to life (Isaiah 14:18-20) after being assassinated (Ezekiel 28:1-10). It will be in the beast-king stage, that he will be worshiped because it will appear that he overcame death, validating his claim of having achieved God-hood. Revelation 13:3-4.

 

[Douggg]

These are not stages to the lake of fire, but simply events. What do the below events have to do with an individual destined to the lake of fire? There are no stages to the LOF, simply lack of belief in Jesus or the taking MOB will punch their ticket to the LOF.

As the little horn person over a group of ten EU leaders.

2. then as the prince that shall come, into the middle east, following the Gog/Magog event.

3. then as the Antichrist, anointed as the King of Israel, messiah (by the false prophet who the Jews will initially think is the embodiment of Elijah who they are are expecting to come and be a part of the messianic age). Note that the person has to be a Jew for the Jews to think he is their long awaited messiah.

4. then as the revealed man of sin, by the act in 2Thesslaonians2:4, claiming to have achieved God-hood. The Jews will reject his claim and his continuation as their King of Israel. End of his Antichrist stage.

5. then as the beast-king, brought back to life (Isaiah 14:18-20) after being assassinated (Ezekiel 28:1-10). It will be in the beast-king stage, that he will be worshiped because it will appear that he overcame death, validating his claim of having achieved God-hood. Revelation 13:3-4.

Hi Andy C.

The 5 stages I presented are only for that single individual person. And do not apply to anyone else who ends up in the lake of fire.

Regarding events, those involve masses of people. Events like the Gog/Magog attack on Israel. Events like the great tribulation period. Which contains events like the 7 trumpet judgements and the 7 vials of God's wrath judgments.

Andy, I have made many many timeline charts of end time events. But the forum rules do not permit posting of those in order to conserve computer space for the forum to operate smoothly.

 

[Andy C]

The 5 stages I presented are only for that single individual person.

Thanks, thats what was confusing to me. Its only for the AC, those 5 stages.

 

[Andy C]

Jesus, the true Christ, was a Jew. The Antichrist, a false Christ that the Jews will temporarily think is their long awaited King of Israel messiah, must be a Jew in order that they embrace him as their King of Israel.

Part of my background (I am 76) is that I have participated at a Jewish countermissionary forum (called "Virtual Yeshiva", my screen name there as well as at Christian discussion forums such as Worth Christians, Christianity Board, Christians Forums is "Douggg" as well).

At the Virtual Yeshiva site, I have made over 3000 posts since 2004 asking the Jews (Judaism) questions about what they believe.

The Jews (Judaism) are looking for their messiah (someone other than Jesus, who they view - in their terms - as a "failed messiah"). The Antichrist will temporarily fulfill their expectations.

The below from Jack Kelley is certainly a possibility:

“It’s important to remember that only believing Jews will reject the anti-Christ, and they won’t do this until he claims to be God, at the beginning of the Great Tribulation. Prior to that time, the anti-Christ will appear to fulfill all of Israel’s desires. Chief among these will be giving them the go-ahead for their Temple. And in their history, another foreign king, Cyrus of Persia, was called a messiah (anointed one) by God in Isaiah 45:1. He also helped the Jews rebuild their Temple. So there is precedent for a non-Jewish King to be thought of as a messiah.

Also in Ezekiel 44:7-8 there’s a prophecy that upon His return, the Lord will accuse Israel of putting foreigners, uncircumcised in heart or flesh, in charge of His sanctuary during the Great Tribulation. I see this as a reference to the anti-Christ and the false prophet. Therefore I don’t think it will be necessary for the anti-Christ to be Jewish”

Must The Anti-Christ Be Jewish? – Grace thru faith

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