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Who is J.D. Vance?

As I have said right out of scripture, God Removes kings and raises them. Daniel 2:21, and He does so for both to bless and to judge. However God is using our leaders, including whoever is in office after January comes, it will be for God's purpose to offer more times to draw more to Jesus and be saved, or to judge this nation for refusing to repent.
I listen to JB Hixon and he really believes that both parties are two sides of the same coin. The Deep State is imbedded within both parties.
I think while we want to hold on to as much liberty and some kind of normalcy as long as possible, we need to look to God and trust Him believing He can do anything and always works for the good for those who love Him.
Israel made the error of wanting a king to lead them like the Gentile nations had. God saw this as Israel rejecting Him and gave them what they wanted, Saul, a horrible king.

4 "Then all the elders of Israel gathered together and came to Samuel at Ramah, 5 and said to him, “Look, you are old, and your sons do not walk in your ways. Now make us a king to judge us like all the nations.”
6 But the thing displeased Samuel when they said, “Give us a king to judge us.” So Samuel prayed to the Lord. 7 And the Lord said to Samuel, “Heed the voice of the people in all that they say to you; for they have not rejected you, but they have rejected Me, that I should not reign over them. 8 According to all the works which they have done since the day that I brought them up out of Egypt, even to this day—with which they have forsaken Me and served other gods—so they are doing to you also. 9 Now therefore, heed their voice. However, you shall solemnly forewarn them, and show them the behavior of the king who will reign over them.”
1 Samuel 8:4-9

I don't believe there's anything wrong with looking to someone to lead this nation with hopes of resulting in good and keeping law and order and keeping our freedoms as given to us by God, but in these last days it should also be expected to see things only get worse,
2 Timothy 3:13, and not be surprised or disappointed when we see it.
Our Hope is sealed in us with The Holy Spirit.

Our Real Hope is Certain and Secured in our eternal state that's coming soon, and The Prince of Peace, Jesus, is The One Who will reign as The Only King Who will lead in Righteousness.
Our Hope does Not disappoint. Maranatha 🥰

"Now hope does not disappoint, because the love of God has been poured out in our hearts by the Holy Spirit who was given to us."
Romans 5:5

"And in the days of these kings the God of heaven will set up a kingdom which shall never be destroyed; and the kingdom shall not be left to other people; it shall break in pieces and consume all these kingdoms, and it shall stand forever.'
Daniel 2:44
Yes, our only Hope is in Jesus as you well stated.

Until the day we are called home, I will vote for the party that seems the best for our country, or at least the lesser of two evils. I also know there will never be a biblically sound person elected in a national election, and it will lead to serious disappointment if one thinks there will be.
 
I still don't understand why Trump chose J.D. Vance unless his son Don Jr had a lot to do with it since he knew him. Personally, I think Trump should have picked one of the nominees he has known for awhile such as Doug Burgum, Marco Rubio or Tim Scott. I :pray: Vance doesn't have evil plans for our country. We have had enough with Biden and Harris in there. I agree that God knows how this will turn out and we are leading up to the :rapture:and the tribulation when the ac and fp come on the scene.
 
Yes, our only Hope is in Jesus as you well stated.

Until the day we are called home, I will vote for the party that seems the best for our country, or at least the lesser of two evils. I also know there will never be a biblically sound person elected in a national election, and it will lead to serious disappointment if one thinks there will be.
Certainly. In summery of my point, we Can want a leader that will hopefully be a good leader, (God has given them authority to keep His laws) but If that leader doesn't produce what we had hoped for, we cannot allow it to get us down about it, Because Our Real Hope is coming and Will Not disappoint 🥰
 
Certainly. In summery of my point, we Can want a leader that will hopefully be a good leader, (God has given them authority to keep His laws) but If that leader doesn't produce what we had hoped for, we cannot allow it to get us down about it, Because Our Real Hope is coming and Will Not disappoint 🥰
I think if Trump gets in we will have more affordable groceries and other necessary things for everyday living and working, which obviously is good
But because of his “unity” and “no more divisivenes” message from the RNC from the likes of Johnny come lately like Vance and Tucker Carlson (both used to despise trump when he was always wanting to make serious changes ) everything else will be status quo.

Only my opinion of course but it’s based on the rhetoric of this whole convention and who he is including in his administration such as Nikki Haley and the like.

Honestly, I just want to be rid of my own sin nature and for the world to be restored to how God wants it
That’s what I’m ready for.
 
I think if Trump gets in we will have more affordable groceries and other necessary things for everyday living and working, which obviously is good

I don't think prices will go down much, but I expect inflation to slow (if debt spending lessens). One thing that could relieve inflationary pressure and make things real difficult for some and maybe all BRICs members is if Donald does whatever is needed to get USA oil flowing again.
 
I think if Trump gets in we will have more affordable groceries and other necessary things for everyday living and working, which obviously is good
But because of his “unity” and “no more divisivenes” message from the RNC from the likes of Johnny come lately like Vance and Tucker Carlson (both used to despise trump when he was always wanting to make serious changes ) everything else will be status quo.

Only my opinion of course but it’s based on the rhetoric of this whole convention and who he is including in his administration such as Nikki Haley and the like.

Honestly, I just want to be rid of my own sin nature and for the world to be restored to how God wants it
That’s what I’m ready for.
What has disturbed me about Trump is his change in some things he stood for in 2016. He Was completely pro life before, now he has bent some and frees his conscience by "leaving it to the states to decide". He supports LGBT strongly and that's a problem because of that group adding the " P" to it. He is pro Israel but supports a two state solution.
Having a more prosperous country is good but what's the good in having a better economy and not getting into endless wars if our nation continues to provoke God with what he hates?
I'm just throwing my views on this but I just don't see it getting better realistically.
God's plan will move forward to send His Son back again to save Israel and judge the nations and set up His Kingdom and oh what a wonderful thing to look forward to.
 
Is J.D. Vance name on the no no list. I knew I heard something that wasn't right about him, and now you told it. So he is a RINO a faker.
If you do a search on the names of the Alumni of Klaus Schwab School of Young Global Leaders you may be surprised by the names that are there. Many Republicans are there. Nikki Haley is a graduate too. What's more interesting is that Ivanka Trump is a graduate. I thought to myself why would she be a graduate from Globalist school when her father has been anti globalist? Really odd.
 
The JD Vance experiment will not be fully known unless his VPOTUS influence leads to stories that concern us or if he would win in 2028. It is an interesting choice that could be fantastic or awful. Trumps first 4 years were intertwined with a lot of betrayers within the White House, etc.
I think that is what threw me viewing the Vance for VP pick. Knowing how he chose Fauci, and how some of those who should have helped him stuck knives in his back.

Vance has always been on Trumps short list. Trumps original speech was 20 pages, a typical Trump attack speech. He changed it as a direct result of the attempt on his life, to make it a speech on unity. Haley was added to show unity in the GOP since she was hesitant months ago to support Trump.
Thank you, that helps with my concerns actually. I hadn't heard his name, and some of the ones who were commenting in the news feeds I listen to felt he was coming in out of the blue. After listening to his speech it made more sense why he'd try and make peace with Haley. In the interests of unity. Trouble is I think Trump is the type to let bygones be bygones and work for the good of the country, but I don't see that same good attribute in some of the people he picks.

It is amazes me how a man like JD Vance who was a never Trumper and actually referred to Trump as disgraceful, disgusting, and even called him Hitler has a complete conversion two short years ago. I know Vance was a schoolmate and teammate of Don Jr and they became close personal friends. I've heard that Don Jr lobbied hard for JD as VP. I am sure that had to influence his dad to some degree.

As to JD Vance's religious beliefs, from what I understand he was an atheist when he married his wife. But apparently the Lord started working on him and he began a path that ended with him accepting Jesus as his Savior and then turning to the Roman Catholic Church for his fellowship. His wife said she supported him in his spiritual journey.

But, returning to my first comments above, I do not trust him. I am worried he is simply another political opportunist. I think there were stronger candidates for the vice presidency. But I'm not Donald Trump or anything like him. And I certainly do not have his business acumen. So I guess we'll just have to trust that this time he knew what he was doing when he picked a man for a key job.
I guess I remain concerned, but not over much now. It's just the last half of Trumps presidency did seem graced by a number of these backstabber types or worse (Fauci!!!)

Bottom line, God preserved his life, and is allowing this situation to develop. God knows the end from the beginning.
I think if Trump gets in we will have more affordable groceries and other necessary things for everyday living and working, which obviously is good
But because of his “unity” and “no more divisivenes” message from the RNC from the likes of Johnny come lately like Vance and Tucker Carlson (both used to despise trump when he was always wanting to make serious changes ) everything else will be status quo.

Only my opinion of course but it’s based on the rhetoric of this whole convention and who he is including in his administration such as Nikki Haley and the like.

Honestly, I just want to be rid of my own sin nature and for the world to be restored to how God wants it
That’s what I’m ready for.
100% AMEN

By the end of the evening I was feeling a little more hopeful about foreign affairs and dialing down the war stuff if things hold together between now and the election when Trump can do his thing talking Putin off his nuclear ledge, whacking Xi upside the head with a wet fish, giving the little dumpling of doom in N Korea a sharp talking to and cutting off the gravy train to the Ayatollahs in Iran.
 

Wall Street, Donors, Neocons Seethe Over Populist JD Vance Being Trump’s VP​

Big money donors, wealthy Wall Street brokers, and old-guard neoconservatives are seething over former President Donald Trump’s choosing Sen. JD Vance (R-OH) as his vice presidential running mate in this year’s election — similar to 2016 when the same elite crowd was furious over Trump’s candidacy.

While the GOP’s working class base embraces Vance, a populist-nationalist most known for his best-selling memoir Hillbilly Elegy about his childhood in the Rust Belt amid community-gutting globalization, the economic elite are taking to the pages of establishment media to voice their opposition.

“Wall Street will be begging for the return of Lina Khan (Biden’s top trust buster at the Federal Trade Commission) after two months of the Trump/Vance administration,” a Wall Street broker told the Financial Times, referencing Lina Khan who is favored by Vance because of her insistence on breaking up corporate monopolies.


The left is trying to draw attention to his various investments to paint him as someone that MAGA wouldn't want... it appears the powers behind the right don't like him either. I don't know anything first hand about him, but this makes him seem like a good choice...
 
The left is trying to draw attention to his various investments to paint him as someone that MAGA wouldn't want... it appears the powers behind the right don't like him either. I don't know anything first hand about him, but this makes him seem like a good choice...
Others agree with you TT, Vance has all of the right enemies.

He has some good bills in the Senate that I like.

To me his biggest plus is that he is pro-Israel. Next, he was a never-Trumper but when those folks come around they are often very strong in the MAGA movement, and I think Vance is. It's good that he's so young and very smart, and there are other things I like.

What I don't like is that he's the type of Catholic who are very liberal, leaning towards Pope Francis.

He needs our prayers.
 
For what it's worth, I saw an interview clip with Vivek Ramaswamy today in which he spoke very favorably about JD Vance. He says he has known him personally for more than 10 years and holds him in the highest esteem. He says he personally believes that he will be a great vice president and be very good for America. If Mr Ramaswamy holds Mr Vance in such high regard, then perhaps I should change my mind about Mr Vance as Mr Trump's vice presidential candidate.
 
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