What to Make of Why Paula White?

[Batman]

She is a VERY dangerous cult leader that is infested in the evangelical world. His friendship, respect, and trust in her is disheartening.

 

[TCC]

I can see both views as being possible, but lean heavily towards rapture

Side note - Arnold Fruchtenbaum is a solid teacher, and has one of the most quoted books in Eschatology, “Footsteps of the Messiah”. Arnold agreed with your position until he read Andy Woods book “The Falling Away”, and subsequently changed his view to align with Woods.

I feel cheated. I met Arnold and tried to sell him on my first seal view. But he would not buy it...lol. I guess my the change agent focus should be to target Andy. Gotta make plans now for a Texas trip.

 

[TCC]

She is a VERY dangerous cult leader that is infested in the evangelical world. His friendship, respect, and trust in her is disheartening.

Amen. There is a documentary that came out about 9 months ago that is pretty good. And gives sober backbone to even what my hopes for America might be.

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incidentally, one consideration I would have strange double takes on all over the place is that if my 1st seal view has any merit, it would seem to share a space with NAR. In general, I am of the view that each denomination will see end times progressing in their views. We will each see what we lean toward believing. But the outcome of course, where NAR is concerned, won't be that the church occupies the 7 mountains to bring back Christ with no tribulation in sight. But as far as they are concerned, it would seem that what would be a potential is that NAR would think their prophesies are coming true if my 1st seal view has any merit. Even though I see those two as two very different things...the overlap is kind of discusting in my end time parlance. Blessings.

 

[TCC]

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Thread 'SECOND THESSALONIANS 2:3A – SPIRITUAL OR PHYSICAL DEPARTURE? Andy Woods'

Sunday at 10:19 AM

I found this PDF link to Andy Woods short book on the topic.

Approx 15 minute read laying out with scripture why he believes it’s the rapture, not a spiritual falling away

From his book:

The Background

Perhaps one of the most enigmatic Bible verses in all the Scripture is found in
Second Thessalonians 2:3, which says, “Let no one deceive you by any means; for that Day
will not come unless the falling away comes first, and the man of sin is revealed, the son of
perdition” (NKJV). The Apostle Paul had on his second missionary journey planted the
church in Thessalonica. Within less than a...

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I believe actually "falling away" in 2 Thes 2 could be both a rapture and a departure from the faith. I also believe, as in the Hebrew mind prophesy = pattern. The ultimate sense of apostasy would be nearing the second half. Because the way 2 Thes 2 tracks, to me, would be the man of lawlessness revealed "as" the one who demands worship at the midpoint. Otherwise, if the church is gone, who is the man of lawlessness being revealed to? The angels? The world won't notice. Nor would it want to. Blessings.