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What if the Rapture Window theory goes Belly up?

1LoverofGod

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Lee Brainard discusses the Rapture Window theory

Description of video:

Hey friends! What if the rapture-window theory goes belly up? What if the rapture doesn't happen prior to the spring of 2026? What if we are still here in the summer of 2026 or 2027? Should this or will this shake our confidence in the pretribulation rapture? It won't shake mine!
My first thought will be that we missed something that belongs in the equation. Prophetic convergence will still be red hot. The promises of deliverance from wrath will still be true. The bottom line is, we need to give ten times more weight to the general understanding of imminence and prophetic convergence than we do to any particular theories based on supposed deep-insights. If your faith is in the bedrock foundation truths, you can't and won't be rattled.

22:57 minutes


 
For me, the Rapture window theory is interesting, but I take it with a grain of salt. I don't have a personal need to create an envelope of time for the Rapture. I'm willing to accept the Father's timing.

Some people like to know. I like a surprise, I guess. With our 4 children we waited until each birth to learn the gender, for example.
 
For me, the Rapture window theory is interesting, but I take it with a grain of salt. I don't have a personal need to create an envelope of time for the Rapture. I'm willing to accept the Father's timing.

Some people like to know. I like a surprise, I guess. With our 4 children we waited until each birth to learn the gender, for example.
High five 🖐️
I feel the same way.
I wouldn't like to be under the stress of looking at a set timeframe and if that time frame passes oh what a disappointment and then to do it all over again with another set timeframe based on human calculation and estimation, and again raising up my hopes and if it once again fails, it can be devastating especially if I'm set on getting out of here only to find I missed the plane again. I too am satisfied with knowing God has His appointed time and He will get us home, not too soon and not too late, but just at the right time as He waits in Long suffering for more to repent and come to Christ Jesus and be saved. 2 Peter 3:9
 
For me, the Rapture window theory is interesting, but I take it with a grain of salt. I don't have a personal need to create an envelope of time for the Rapture. I'm willing to accept the Father's timing.

Some people like to know. I like a surprise, I guess. With our 4 children we waited until each birth to learn the gender, for example.
Amen brother. Hope its today, but long term plans are always necessary.
 
That looks like a great video! Lee is a really common sense brother and I'm glad he's tackling this head on. Even though its a fun thing, and praise God if we are up and out of here by then, it's like every other rapture timing theory- when it goes pop bang, there's a lot of disappointed saints left feeling even worse than necessary.
 
Lee has also done well to bring out a video like this as a lot of the pre trib channels out there are all pretty much hyping up this 2 year rapture window.

It sounds exciting, even very plausible, but oh boy the comedown that would occur if the rapture didn't occur within the next 2 years woukd probably destroy a lot of people's hopes.
 
That looks like a great video! Lee is a really common sense brother and I'm glad he's tackling this head on. Even though its a fun thing, and praise God if we are up and out of here by then, it's like every other rapture timing theory- when it goes pop bang, there's a lot of disappointed saints left feeling even worse than necessary.
I have watched a few of his videos, always good.

I often have to remind myself that my hope is in Him, not in the timing of when we are called home.
 
Lee has also done well to bring out a video like this as a lot of the pre trib channels out there are all pretty much hyping up this 2 year rapture window.

It sounds exciting, even very plausible, but oh boy the comedown that would occur if the rapture didn't occur within the next 2 years woukd probably destroy a lot of people's hopes.
And that is my biggest problem with it. It's plausible. But so were a number of other great theories that have come and gone.

I agree that we "see the day approaching" Heb 10:25 , and that we are not of the night, but of the day, so we aren't caught unawares 11 Thess 5:4-6 which DO imply a certain rough idea of the general time.

I think we are getting close and I hope it's as close as the 2000 year theory with these last 2 years remaining in the "rapture window". But if not, I will putter along till He comes to get us.

We are in the general ballpark.
 
And that is my biggest problem with it. It's plausible. But so were a number of other great theories that have come and gone.

I agree that we "see the day approaching" Heb 10:25 , and that we are not of the night, but of the day, so we aren't caught unawares 11 Thess 5:4-6 which DO imply a certain rough idea of the general time.

I think we are getting close and I hope it's as close as the 2000 year theory with these last 2 years remaining in the "rapture window". But if not, I will putter along till He comes to get us.

We are in the general ballpark.
Yep a lot of bible prophecy teachers are still surprised we're here, ever since 2020 it wouldn't be such a stretch that we shoulda been outta here bar God's extreme patience and grace with us.

Lol even tv shows and movies etc seem to feel a need to release alot of post apocalyptic themes.
 
I'M not gonna lie, i would be disappointed but the little voice inside of me would also reiterate a don't be surprised as Jesus advises us to hang on until he comes
Same here. I’ll be disappointed if we are still here into the Winter of 2026, but I’ll also understand that God’s timing is perfect. I’ll just assume that we missed details of the perfect plan God has in place, which wouldn’t surprise me too much either.

I also expect we’ll keep on figuring out more as time goes on. I find it fun and exciting to see how the puzzle pieces seem to fit together.
 
Really good video. I got bogged down towards the end when Shemitahs entered the discussion. Apparently there's a Shemitah angle on the Rapture that seems to be out there, but I never heard of it so it was too much effort to try and wrap my brain around that last night. If I feel a touch of FOMO (fear of missing out) then I might go back and finish. Lee was going to some effort to be polite and yet point out problems with Shemitahs.

I was done with Shemitahs when J Cahn first mentioned them as applying to all of America and perhaps the world after being specifically for the Jews in the OT. I'm not dissing them, but I'm not diving face first into any theory that sounds like Cahn had a hand in it. He was dead wrong on his first round of Shemitah nonsense applying it to the stock market and since then he's been more cautious but it still sounds fishy to me. No offence to anyone who enjoys a good bit of Shemitahs with your prophetic prognostications over a morning coffee. I take my coffee black, without Shemitahs.

Main takeaway for me was that its' a nice theory. All nice theories up till now have been found false. Therefore it might or might not hold but Lee is asking people to really grab hold of what Adrian says here:

It'll come when it will come. And God's timing will be perfect. In the meantime there's a lot to occupy us in serving Him.
 
Really good video. I got bogged down towards the end when Shemitahs entered the discussion. Apparently there's a Shemitah angle on the Rapture that seems to be out there, but I never heard of it so it was too much effort to try and wrap my brain around that last night. If I feel a touch of FOMO (fear of missing out) then I might go back and finish. Lee was going to some effort to be polite and yet point out problems with Shemitahs.

I was done with Shemitahs when J Cahn first mentioned them as applying to all of America and perhaps the world after being specifically for the Jews in the OT. I'm not dissing them, but I'm not diving face first into any theory that sounds like Cahn had a hand in it. He was dead wrong on his first round of Shemitah nonsense applying it to the stock market and since then he's been more cautious but it still sounds fishy to me. No offence to anyone who enjoys a good bit of Shemitahs with your prophetic prognostications over a morning coffee. I take my coffee black, without Shemitahs.

Main takeaway for me was that its' a nice theory. All nice theories up till now have been found false. Therefore it might or might not hold but Lee is asking people to really grab hold of what Adrian says here:
Is Shemitah the same thing as a jubilee as 2025 is supposed to be one of them ?
 
Really good video. I got bogged down towards the end when Shemitahs entered the discussion. Apparently there's a Shemitah angle on the Rapture that seems to be out there, but I never heard of it so it was too much effort to try and wrap my brain around that last night. If I feel a touch of FOMO (fear of missing out) then I might go back and finish. Lee was going to some effort to be polite and yet point out problems with Shemitahs.

I was done with Shemitahs when J Cahn first mentioned them as applying to all of America and perhaps the world after being specifically for the Jews in the OT. I'm not dissing them, but I'm not diving face first into any theory that sounds like Cahn had a hand in it. He was dead wrong on his first round of Shemitah nonsense applying it to the stock market and since then he's been more cautious but it still sounds fishy to me. No offence to anyone who enjoys a good bit of Shemitahs with your prophetic prognostications over a morning coffee. I take my coffee black, without Shemitahs.

Main takeaway for me was that its' a nice theory. All nice theories up till now have been found false. Therefore it might or might not hold but Lee is asking people to really grab hold of what Adrian says here:
Years ago I followed J Cahn when I was a baby Christian.
At first he fascinated me with his "mysteries" he explained.
The more I got into scripture he wasn't making sense to me anymore.
He insists that America is a Harbinger of Israel. And he won't say so, but I think he believes he's a modern day prophet.
After a while I couldn't listen to him anymore.
He's interesting to listen to but he's off quite a bit on scripture and prophecy.
I've wondered why he's a regular guest on Prophecy Watchers. Gary Stearman or Mondo Gonzales couldn't believe his stuff, I would think.
I don't know 🤷
 
Years ago I followed J Cahn when I was a baby Christian.
At first he fascinated me with his "mysteries" he explained.
The more I got into scripture he wasn't making sense to me anymore.
He insists that America is a Harbinger of Israel. And he won't say so, but I think he believes he's a modern day prophet.
After a while I couldn't listen to him anymore.
He's interesting to listen to but he's off quite a bit on scripture and prophecy.
I've wondered why he's a regular guest on Prophecy Watchers. Gary Stearman or Mondo Gonzales couldn't believe his stuff, I would think.
I don't know 🤷
There's a few "off" guests that prophecy watchers invites on that makes you wonder why they were invited onto the show
 
Is Shemitah the same thing as a jubilee as 2025 is supposed to be one of them ?
Last question first: Is 2025 a Jubilee year? Answer, Maybe. :lol: The Catholic church declares it is. But surprisingly so does the Essene calendar. It depends on the starting points.

If we consider spring of 1948 as a Jubilee year starting the previous fall of 47 (because the calendar years start in the fall feast at Rosh Hashanah) then it was the fall of 1997, and the next one occurs in 2047. That's from the idea that God brought the nation back that year - reverting to it's original owners. I've heard that one mentioned before.

For the actual calculation you need to go back to Joshua and the entry into the land when this law took effect. And that calculation can vary based on which historical records. Since we have trouble even figuring out the date of the Cross, we need something that pinpoints it from around the time of Christ OR BEFORE

So

The explanation I think is best still works out to 2025 and it's from Dr Ken Johnson's work on the Essene calendar as he explains here: - YouTube

So it starts in the fall of our 2025.


What's a Shemitah
It's the 7 year week cycle. So every 7th year is a release from debt, and a time to let the land rest. God's promise was that they would have enough to tide them over that year if they observed it. This link explains how it works in Judaism in the past and today giving the Biblical scriptures. https://www.chabad.org/library/article_cdo/aid/562077/jewish/What-Is-Shemitah.htm

The Jubilee is the 50th year after a set of 7x7 or 49 years of 7 Shemitahs. That next year was out of the cycle of 7 and stands on it's own. It is another year of release but this time the slaves are freed, and land that was sold reverts to it's original owner. Here is the link from the same site explaining it- currently called Jovel in Judaism. https://www.chabad.org/library/article_cdo/aid/513212/jewish/When-Is-the-Next-Jubilee-Year.htm

Note that Rabbinic (Pharisee) Judaism bypasses BOTH of these commands. With the Shemitah, the freedom from debt is bypassed by a Rabbinic law instituted by Hillel the Elder (he died around 10 AD) as seen in this link here: https://www.chabad.org/library/article_cdo/aid/562041/jewish/Loan-Amnesty-Pruzbul.htm

and the Jubilee or Jovel is bypassed because:
"According to biblical law, the Jubilee is only observed when all twelve tribes of the Jewish nation are living in Israel, as is derived from the verse, “And you shall sanctify the fiftieth year, and proclaim freedom throughout the land for all who live on it,” which implies that the Jubilee is only sanctified when “all who live on it”—meaning, all who are meant to be living there—are in the Land of Israel. Furthermore, the Jubilee is only observed when every tribe is living in the specific part of the land which it was allotted when the Land of Israel was divided. However, some are of the opinion that the Jubilee is observed as long as there is a partial representation of each tribe, even if most of the tribe is not in Israel."

From the time of the 6th Century BC at the point that the 10 northern tribes were carted away by the Assyrians, this meant that not ALL of Israel was in the tribal allotments, in spite of the fact that there were representatives of all 10 tribes living in the southern kingdom. As seen in this next quote.

"However, according to the first opinion mentioned above, with the exile of the Northern Kingdom the required condition for the Jubilee to be sanctified was lost. Thus, the last time there was a biblical requirement to observe the Jubilee was about 150 years before the destruction of the First Temple.

The question remains, however, whether according to this opinion Jubilee years were designated or observed during this time by rabbinic injunction. This is the subject of debate amongst the sages.

As mentioned above, though, today the Jubilee year is neither designated nor observed.
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and in the notes below the article it says this about the Jubilee year

"Although the laws of shemittah are observed in Israel to this very day, the Jubilee year is not designated or observed. There are many reasons for this. Some of them:

a) The Jubilee only affected the shemittah cycle when the shemittah was established and declared by the Sanhedrin, as opposed to today when it is automatically programmed into the perpetual Jewish calendar.

b) The observance of shemittah today is only a rabbinic decree, and therefore the Jubilee year does not affect its cycle.

c) No commemoration is in order when there is no Sanhedrin, whose participation in the declaration of the Jubilee year was integral. In fact, it was the Sanhedrin’s blast of the shofar (ram's horn) on Yom Kippur which signaled the entry of the Jubilee year.
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It's interesting that this site specifies the Jubilee begins not on Rosh Hashanah at the start of the Fall feasts, (Sept 22-24 of 2025) and normally seen as the New Year but at Yom Kippur Oct 1-2 That is a total of 10 days start to finish.
 
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