UN Conference On Two-state Solution To Mideast Conflict Set For June

An international conference meant to resurrect the idea of a two-state solution to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict will take place from June 17 to 20 at the UN headquarters in New York, a UN spokeswoman said Friday.

The conference stems from a resolution approved in December by the UN General Assembly and it will be co-chaired by France and Saudi Arabia.
The dates of this meeting were confirmed by UN spokeswoman Sharon Birch.

A diplomat in Paris close to preparations for the conference said it should pave the way for more countries to recognize a full-blown Palestinian state.

Nearly 150 countries recognize the State of Palestine, which has observer status at the United Nations but is not a full member as the Security Council has not voted to admit it.

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Diplomat Says Conference On Two-state Solution To Mideast Conflict Set For June

A French and Saudi-backed conference on a two-state solution to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict will take place from June 17 to 20 at UN headquarters in New York, a French diplomatic source told AFP.

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[TCC]

They best not go against God on dividing Israel and so-called Palestine. There never has been a Palestine. They are the Philistines.

I think that is a good attitude and perspective. That we should not divide Israel of course. But in the evangelical world we have made not considering a two-state solution = to God blessing or cursing. And although I believe it is a danger to find out how true that might be, and the US and other nations should not test God, amen, I think evangelicalism in general has made this a rally point to bolster their own sense of certainty in uncertain days. Exegetically, Israel has "0" covenant with God right now. I don't believe God is protecting them under the OT clause of what they themselves violate all over the place. And this would not really be a judgement call of the church. But I do believe that God in His faithfulness is protecting Israel. And how He might extend grace to the US and others for helping not hurting Israel, amen. I believe that is why America is so powerful now. Amen.

But a two-state solution, the way I see it is more something providentially in the hands of God. If God uses a two-state solution as part and parcel of His chastising Israel as they approach their 70th week, I don't believe the church is a part of that relationship. All we know is what we know. And how God deals with Israel as a hardened unbeiving nation is completely at "His" discretion. But I think that is important to point out because a two-state solution might be something God Himself permits either prophetically or just in ways to nudge Israel more to Him to call to Him (even in their state of hardened unbelief). My recommendation would be to not consider a two-state solution beyond how God might use that providentially. The reason I say that is that what I have seen in the watcher movement is a tendency to armchair quarterback what is happening in the middle east from all kinds of template views. And that has just seemed to confuse what might actually be more easily discernable about the unfolding situation in the middle east.

Again, yeah I don't think it is wise to test God. Better a one state than two-state solution, amen. And better for the nation that upholds that. Amen. But if a two-state solution emerges as political protection from greater hostility in the middle east, I would see that more or less as a means of trying to preserve Israel in as much as it might be to appease the Arab world. And since this is in the context of Israel being in extreme unbelief, it would seem to be wholistically in the providential prophetic hands of the Lord. I believe that is likely the best way to look at it.

. . . . .

On a less serious note, maybe making it into a resort could work Blessings.

 

[1LoverofGod]

I think that is a good attitude and perspective. That we should not divide Israel of course. But in the evangelical world we have made not considering a two-state solution = to God blessing or cursing. And although I believe it is a danger to find out how true that might be, and the US and other nations should not test God, amen, I think evangelicalism in general has made this a rally point to bolster their own sense of certainty in uncertain days. Exegetically, Israel has "0" covenant with God right now. I don't believe God is protecting them under the OT clause of what they themselves violate all over the place. And this would not really be a judgement call of the church. But I do believe that God in His faithfulness is protecting Israel. And how He might extend grace to the US and others for helping not hurting Israel, amen. I believe that is why America is so powerful now. Amen.

But a two-state solution, the way I see it is more something providentially in the hands of God. If God uses a two-state solution as part and parcel of His chastising Israel as they approach their 70th week, I don't believe the church is a part of that relationship. All we know is what we know. And how God deals with Israel as a hardened unbeiving nation is completely at "His" discretion. But I think that is important to point out because a two-state solution might be something God Himself permits either prophetically or just in ways to nudge Israel more to Him to call to Him (even in their state of hardened unbelief). My recommendation would be to not consider a two-state solution beyond how God might use that providentially. The reason I say that is that what I have seen in the watcher movement is a tendency to armchair quarterback what is happening in the middle east from all kinds of template views. And that has just seemed to confuse what might actually be more easily discernable about the unfolding situation in the middle east.

Again, yeah I don't think it is wise to test God. Better a one state than two-state solution, amen. And better for the nation that upholds that. Amen. But if a two-state solution emerges as political protection from greater hostility in the middle east, I would see that more or less as a means of trying to preserve Israel in as much as it might be to appease the Arab world. And since this is in the context of Israel being in extreme unbelief, it would seem to be wholistically in the providential prophetic hands of the Lord. I believe that is likely the best way to look at it.

. . . . .

On a less serious note, maybe making it into a resort could work Blessings.

"Exegetically, Israel has "0" Covenant with God right now" ?

"And I will establish My covenant between Me and you and your descendants after you in their generations, for an everlasting covenant, to be God to you and your descendants after you"
Genesis 17:7

 

[Margery]

I think that is a good attitude and perspective. That we should not divide Israel of course. But in the evangelical world we have made not considering a two-state solution = to God blessing or cursing. And although I believe it is a danger to find out how true that might be, and the US and other nations should not test God, amen, I think evangelicalism in general has made this a rally point to bolster their own sense of certainty in uncertain days. Exegetically, Israel has "0" covenant with God right now. I don't believe God is protecting them under the OT clause of what they themselves violate all over the place. And this would not really be a judgement call of the church. But I do believe that God in His faithfulness is protecting Israel. And how He might extend grace to the US and others for helping not hurting Israel, amen. I believe that is why America is so powerful now. Amen.

But a two-state solution, the way I see it is more something providentially in the hands of God. If God uses a two-state solution as part and parcel of His chastising Israel as they approach their 70th week, I don't believe the church is a part of that relationship. All we know is what we know. And how God deals with Israel as a hardened unbeiving nation is completely at "His" discretion. But I think that is important to point out because a two-state solution might be something God Himself permits either prophetically or just in ways to nudge Israel more to Him to call to Him (even in their state of hardened unbelief). My recommendation would be to not consider a two-state solution beyond how God might use that providentially. The reason I say that is that what I have seen in the watcher movement is a tendency to armchair quarterback what is happening in the middle east from all kinds of template views. And that has just seemed to confuse what might actually be more easily discernable about the unfolding situation in the middle east.

Again, yeah I don't think it is wise to test God. Better a one state than two-state solution, amen. And better for the nation that upholds that. Amen. But if a two-state solution emerges as political protection from greater hostility in the middle east, I would see that more or less as a means of trying to preserve Israel in as much as it might be to appease the Arab world. And since this is in the context of Israel being in extreme unbelief, it would seem to be wholistically in the providential prophetic hands of the Lord. I believe that is likely the best way to look at it.

. . . . .

On a less serious note, maybe making it into a resort could work Blessings.

with all due respect, no, the 2 state solution has been tried, and fails due to the fact that Israel is compliant, they do their part and then some but the Muslims follow their rules about Taqquiya where it's ok to like and make a peace deal then break it asap. They are quite open about that.

It's been tried on multiple occasions, and always fails leading to worse problems and more loss of life.

As for making it into a resort, that would involve the US owning Gaza according to Trump's plan and that too does NOT line up with Scripture.

 

[1LoverofGod]

with all due respect, no, the 2 state solution has been tried, and fails due to the fact that Israel is compliant, they do their part and then some but the Muslims follow their rules about Taqquiya where it's ok to like and make a peace deal then break it asap. They are quite open about that.

It's been tried on multiple occasions, and always fails leading to worse problems and more loss of life.

As for making it into a resort, that would involve the US owning Gaza according to Trump's plan and that too does NOT line up with Scripture.

Israel Gave Gaza to the Palestinians and also the "West Bank", Judea and Samaria in the Oslo Accords. The Palestinians wants all of the land and all Jews eliminated, and this has been why they chant "from the river to the sea"

 

[1LoverofGod]

Israel Gave Gaza to the Palestinians and also the "West Bank", Judea and Samaria in the Oslo Accords. The Palestinians wants all of the land and all Jews eliminated, and this has been why they chant "from the river to the sea"

Seems like the global leaders want a two state implemented badly but the Palestinians don't want two states. The Palestinians do want to be recognized as a State, but of the entire Land of Israel. Even if the two states are recognized by world leaders, it isn't going to solve the problem. Islam hates Israel and the ideology of "Israel cannot exist" will continue.
Certainly as bad as all of this is, God is allowing it to take place to get Israel where they have to be to call on Messiah Jesus.

 

[TCC]

"Exegetically, Israel has "0" Covenant with God right now" ?

"And I will establish My covenant between Me and you and your descendants after you in their generations, for an everlasting covenant, to be God to you and your descendants after you"
Genesis 17:7

"Exegetically, Israel has "0" Covenant with God right now" ?

"And I will establish My covenant between Me and you and your descendants after you in their generations, for an everlasting covenant, to be God to you and your descendants after you"
Genesis 17:7

I understand the sentiment Rose. I think we can safely say that God in the tribulation according to Joel 3, will judge the nations that try and disperse Israel from their land. What is happening now may be the intentions of other nations to squeeze Israel while in the land. But there are diplomatic measures that are trying to keep the peace in the middle east to protect Israel. At least they are thinking in that sense. That is different than trying to disperse Israel though. God is honoring His eternal covenant with Israel in bringing them back to their land. And preserving them. The fact that Israel is a nation is because of the eternal covenant God has sworn to. However,

17 Now when Abram was ninety-nine years old, the Lord appeared to Abram and said to him,

“I am [a]God Almighty;
Walk before Me, and be blameless.
2 I will [c]make My covenant between Me and you,
And I will multiply you exceedingly.”

Israel is to walk blamelessly as their part of the covenant. They are not doing that. So Israel themselves are not covenanting with God right now. When Moses disobeyed God, His punishment was not to enter the promised land. There are consequences. Israel did not return to the land because of their obedience. They are there solely by the mercy of God and His covenant to them. Which is eternal. Amen. But in their disobedience God can chastise them how He sees fit. Including the burden of having a Palestinian occupation. It's not for us, the church, to decide how God has to keep His part of the covenant. Or how God has to honor what the church thinks that should look like though.

So when I say Israel is in 0 covenant with God, its because they are not honoring it. We are not God's council according to Israel. How that eternal covenant works is according to how God wants to orchestrate it. The voice of the church is not involved with how God deals with Israel in their disobedience. The very fact that God might chastise Israel is "because" of the eternal covenant He made. So it could be said that a two-state solution proves God is disciplining them from His existing eternal covenant with Israel. If that makes sense? Blessings.

 

[TCC]

with all due respect, no, the 2 state solution has been tried, and fails due to the fact that Israel is compliant, they do their part and then some but the Muslims follow their rules about Taqquiya where it's ok to like and make a peace deal then break it asap. They are quite open about that.

It's been tried on multiple occasions, and always fails leading to worse problems and more loss of life.

As for making it into a resort, that would involve the US owning Gaza according to Trump's plan and that too does NOT line up with Scripture.

Actually i was joking about the resort thing. I'm not saying their should be a two-state solution. But the only time Israel will gain all the land and rule in peace will be the 1,000 year reign. I believe Israel might stand a chance to have a one-state solution though. But if there results a two-state solution out of all this mess, to try and build peace in the middle east (even though it has failed), I believe that can lead to their abundance too. The reason I say that though dear sister is that with all that is going on in the way it is going, whether Israel has a one or two state solution, the one thing I believe we will see is a stronger radically prosperous Israel. That can work under a 1 or 2 state solution. They got this far with a two-state solution. They have advanced technological know how and have access to a lot of resources. Even with a two-state solution burdening them, they still rank 6th in world economics (surpassing many much larger nations). So it could still work like that though.

https://itrade.gov.il/south-africa/2025/03/06/israel-ranks-6th-in-2024-global-economic-strength-driven-by-innovation-and-growth/

But we might come to find that Israel gets a one state solution. We don't know that outcome to be yet though. But I am just saying that whatever occurs, it would seem that Israel would become even more powerful economically. 1 or 2 state solution. If that makes sense? Blessings.