Trump suggests US could be ‘associate member’ of British Commonwealth: ‘I love King Charles’

WASHINGTON — President Trump reacted warmly Friday to a report that the US could be offered “associate membership” in the British Commonwealth.

“I Love King Charles. Sounds good to me!” the president wrote on Truth Social, linking to a report by the Sun that a proposal could be made by the monarch when Trump makes a state visit to the UK later this year.

The Commonwealth of Nations, established in 1926, has 56 member states, the vast majority of which are former colonies of the British Empire.

The US unilaterally declaring independence from Britain in 1776, and securing its independence via the Treaty of Paris seven years later following a bloody war, would not be an obstacle to membership.

Complete Article:

Trump suggests US could be ‘associate member’ of British Commonwealth: ‘I love King Charles’

Reports in the British press indicate an offer could be made by the monarch when Trump makes a state visit to the UK later this year.

nypost.com

 

[Andiamo]

King Charles may be the AC.

I ran across a website a couple years ago that made quite a convincing case that it would be William. Seeing as Charles is in bad health I want to find that again.
Just morbid curiosity

 

[1LoverofGod]

Leo Hohmann gives more insight on this topic

Trump makes bizarre statement about U.S. joining British Commonwealth of Nations as ‘associate member’, says ‘I love King Charles!’​

By itself, this comment could be dismissed as mere trolling. But taken in context with other comments about Canada, some believe we should take Trump at his word. Then there’s the Curtis Yarvin factor and the ‘Technate’​

I have often wondered if the media persona surrounding Donald Trump as being a “Russian asset,” has been part of a grand deception.

Watching how he has played the Russia-Ukraine peace talks forces me to consider that Trump’s reputation may be part of a plot to deceive Russia and Putin. Let me explain.

Pretend to be on Russia’s side, gain Putin’s trust, and then sell them out at the opportune time. Russia, which could have finished off Ukraine a long time ago, keeps stalling off the inevitable, giving the EU led by Britain and France time to build up their military forces, which have been neglected for decades.

I say this because the core of Europe’s current obsession with Russophobia goes back to London and the royal family. You will not read any more biased coverage of Russia in its war with Ukraine than you will in the British press. Everything is the fault of Putin, whose name they can’t seem to spit out without adding — the “dictator,” the “unprovoked aggressor,” the “despot.”

I think it’s safe to say that British elites, for reasons probably having something to do with history — like the Crimean War in which Britain fought on the side of Ottoman Muslims against Russia from 1854-56 — have a special hatred for Russia.

Russia and Ukraine were set to settle their grievances in April 2022 but it was Britain’s former Prime Minister, Boris Johnson, who was dispatched to Kiev to scuttle the deal and keep the war going by promising endless European/U.S. support.

And yet, we are supposed to believe Trump leans Russian and not British?

Trump proudly displays his coat of arms tracing his lineage back to Scotland, and he has publicly announced his affinity for King Charles and the royal family. In fact, Trump has fancied himself a king in repeated statements going back years, most recently on February 19 of this year. His supporters dismiss this rhetoric as Trump just being Trump and, well, he likes to “troll” people.

Then he let loose last week with the bombshell that he might consider having the U.S. join the British Commonwealth of Nations.

Maybe he is just being a troll, but I think we should know that some very serious people are taking Trump seriously when he talks about making Canada the 51st state and the U.S. joining the British Commonwealth. The two issues are related, says technocracy expert Patrick Wood. To truly understand what’s going on, one must study the connection of global technocracy thought-leader and philosopher Curtis Yarvin and his connection to Trump/Vance billionaire backer Peter Thiel. They envision a regional techno-monarchy that would revive the 1930s’ idea of a “North American Technate,” complete with a parliamentary system and king.

Could this be what’s in the planning stages for our future? I don’t believe it’s possible unless we first go through something historically traumatic, something like World War III.

Wood, who is editor in chief of Technocracy.News, reports that nearly 250 years after America declared independence from Great Britain, President Donald Trump suggested he was open to taking a small step back toward the warm embrace of the British monarchy after a media outlet reported that King Charles III intends to extend an offer for the United States to join the British Commonwealth of Nations.

According to Wood’s piece, King Charles is reportedly preparing to extend the offer of an “associate membership” in the voluntary commonwealth of 56 nations, most of which have history as former British colonies. Trump said he is open to the idea.

Writing on his Truth Social platform while sharing an article referencing the unprecedented offer, Trump said: “I Love King Charles. Sounds good to me!”

First reported by the Daily Mail, the offer from Charles III would be formally extended during the planned state visit by Trump to the U.K.

Prime Minister Sir Keir Starmer delivered a hand-written invitation from the King to the U.S. leader during a visit to the White House last month.

A member of the Royal Commonwealth Society told the Mail that the possibility of America making entry into the Commonwealth is being discussed at the highest levels as “a wonderful move that would symbolize Britain’s close relationship with the U.S.”
The person added that: “Donald Trump loves Britain and has great respect for the Royal Family, so we believe he would see the benefits of this. Associate membership could, hopefully, be followed by full membership, making the Commonwealth even more important as a global organization.”

He told the Mail that the possibility of America making entry into the Commonwealth represents “a wonderful move that would symbolize Britain’s close relationship with the U.S. …Donald Trump loves Britain and has great respect for the Royal Family, so we believe he would see the benefits of this. Associate membership could, hopefully, be followed by full membership, making the Commonwealth even more important as a global organization.”

Wood, the technocracy expert, made the following astute observation:

“Britain’s PM, Keir Starmer, a member of the Trilateral Commission, hand-delivered the invitation from King Charles to join the Commonwealth. It just so happens that another Trilateral, Mark Carney, is currently PM in Canada. Didn’t we already fight a war (with muskets and bayonets) to get rid of the British jackboot in the first place?”

Then Wood posed the question of whether this represents “a Trilateral pincer from both sides of the Atlantic?”

For those wishing to explore this issue further, Wood had an engaging long-form interview with Brannon Howse that is well worth the time. You can listen to it here.

Trump makes bizarre statement about U.S. joining British Commonwealth of Nations as ‘associate member’, says ‘I love King Charles!’

By itself, this comment could be dismissed as mere trolling. But taken in context with other comments about Canada, some believe we should take Trump at his word. Then there’s the Curtis Yarv…

leohohmann.com

 

[Ghoti Ichthus]

Does this mean I need to sharpen my bayonet and take my musket to the range?

NO, NO, NO!!!




and does it mean I have to find two supplements to replace the UK ones I currently buy?

 

[Ghoti Ichthus]

Wow very interesting thoughts and I think you
May have nailed it.

Admittedly, this stunned me...lol. From what i understand being a part of the commonwealth does though seems to be more symbolic than anything else. I wonder if Trump will get a crown. lol.

Trump, Vance, and Marco Rubio have ignored the EU and deal directly with European nation states only. With BREXIT and England's more recent struggles concerning immigration, this might imply a potential alliance perhaps to better address the EU. If a power move, what that might translate into is using England to pressure the EU and strengthen nation state recognition. In effect, Trump is kind of already doing that by affirming ties with England, a nation. Maybe he wants to build a wall in another country...lol.

Admittedly this is a strange one. The saliant takeaway way i see it is two fold:

1) BREXIT
2) Trump won't deal with the EU, but will not only deal with European nations independently, but even support them as far as becoming a part of their commons.

What ever it means, the signal it sends to the EU i would not see as complimentary to them. Nor would they likely take it that way. Me thinks. Blessings.

PS -- a fun "what if." Would that not be ironic if America 250 years later, turns around and frees England from the EU...lol. What a story. But the crazy things we have been seeing, makes it almost a given possibly...lol.

Hadrian's Wall

 

[Ghoti Ichthus]

I almost think he felt he could joke about that since we DO have the history we have. In other situations it may have been taken seriously.

I truly hope he is joking.

But after his comments about Canada, Greenland, and Panama, US personnel now in Panama, US forces on the US-Mexican border, and now US forces going to be allowed to conduct training exercises in Mexico, I don't think so

Why does this remind me of pre-WWII and post-WWII Europe?

 

[janeelaine]

America is sounding much more like it's in Bible prophecy after all!!!!!

“What I am doing, you do not understand now, but you will understand later.”

John 13:7

Daniel 12:9: He replied, “Go your way, Daniel, because the words are rolled up and sealed until the time of the end.

so cool to watch it all unfold, understanding things we didnt before; of course we arent positive about these ideas here, but your quote there reminded me of these verses. understanding end times as they approach. neat

 

[Margery]

Wood, the technocracy expert, made the following astute observation:

“Britain’s PM, Keir Starmer, a member of the Trilateral Commission, hand-delivered the invitation from King Charles to join the Commonwealth. It just so happens that another Trilateral, Mark Carney, is currently PM in Canada. Didn’t we already fight a war (with muskets and bayonets) to get rid of the British jackboot in the first place?”

Then Wood posed the question of whether this represents “a Trilateral pincer from both sides of the Atlantic?”

I'll watch that video.

I still can't see King Charles offering this to Trump (although Starmer might and Charles would comply) but Wood has a point, Keir Starmer and Mark Carney are both WEF, globalists and quite likely on the same page.

Interesting.

THE CLOSER WE GET TO THE RAPTURE THE STRANGER IT IS GOING TO GET DOWN HERE!!! My new motto! So far it's proving true!

I truly hope he is joking.

But after his comments about Canada, Greenland, and Panama, US personnel now in Panama, US forces on the US-Mexican border, and now US forces going to be allowed to conduct training exercises in Mexico, I don't think so

Why does this remind me of pre-WWII and post-WWII Europe?

Because it should.

There are a lot of parallels.

This was how the land grabs happened before WW2 in Austria first, then Czechoslovakia, Poland and the rest is as they say history. That occurred during a moment in history that it looked like Satan was trying to launch another World Empire under a single leader. Here we are at the brink of the Tribulation possibly, and we see some of the same things.

(I DO NOT mean that Trump is the AC or anything close- he is the leader God chose to put in place at this time of transition moving towards the Tribulation. Some things that happen we might not like and we cannot stop. Just like Christians caught up in WW2 from every nation) What we can do is use the time we have to reach the lost, preach the gospel to as many as possible.

Why a land grab? - the 10 kings.


Look at it from a biblical perspective:

1: Britain and her daughters (Tarshish and her cubs) will speak together someday in Ezek 38. Brexit. They did exit the European Union. Britain and her cubs speak as one in Ezek 38. Which says that the 5 Eyes relationship (Britain, America, Australia, New Zealand and Canada) retain some degree of cooperation. Whatever alliance exists by the time of Ezek 38- it includes Britain and some of her cubs or descendants.

2: Europe won't be able to rise to her prophetic place in the Trib unless they sever their dependence on America. We SHOULD see Europe pulling away from America, developing an army and that digital Euro that will start to replace cash this fall. Europe doesn't achieve much till after Ezek 38 and I think that is after the Rapture or just before. Britain and her cubs are mentioned in Ezek, Europe is not. Anger in Europe against America is rising along with the desire for her own army. I figure America will continue to irritate Europe and vice versa. IT IS NECESSARY for prophetic fulfillment I think.

3: Russia and her allies should be driven together in a common need to protect themselves from Western forces. I think this will only strengthen as America and Israel deal with Iran and Turkey continues to distance itself from America and Israel, moving towards Iran and Russia. Russia WILL absorb Ukraine (Magog) back under her authority before Ezek 38. That Russian coalition will be short of funds, so theft from Israel at some point will occur to them.

4: (Israel HAS to live in peace- so this current war WILL result in Israel's expansion and her relative peace). for THAT to happen, I think America must remain strong until the Rapture. 2 reasons: Israel AND bringing the AI, quantum computing technocracy and economic system with a traceable, trackable, TAXABLE currency to the world. So America remains strong. Trump has to be in place for that. Not Biden, Obama, or Harris. TRUMP!

5: We should see the rise of the 10 kings without kingdoms shortly. This may involve dividing the world into geographic zones, and I think that IS happening right now with Trump's expansionist plans in annexing Canada, Greenland, Panama etc.

These are not jokes. They are being treated as such by Fox news and other Trump friendly news agencies, but the full videos of his remarks to Mark Rutte the Euro head of NATO during his visit show that he is serious. Clips from that meeting are on Canadian news, and Denmark and Greenland.

Greenland today is extremely angered by Trump's visit and they point to Trump's remarks to Mark Rutte in that meeting as proof of his intent to take Greenland one way or another.

It may be hard to swallow- it's given me a lot of heartburn over the past few weeks, but I now think this is serious, not a joke and I understand why Trump is doing this, even if I don't agree with it. More importantly I begin to see a Biblical Prophetic FULFILMENT in this!

Once or twice is a joke. Repeated over and over with punitive sanctions and tariffs which increase the second we try to respond with our own tariffs, this is not a joke anymore. Several times I've heard the clip where Trump states (joking or not) that the way he will take over Canada is financially. So it is not an invasion, but a deliberate destruction of our economy. Then annexation. When someone tells you what they are doing in a joke, then repeats it over and over, then starts to do what he said he would do, it's time to take it seriously.




This IS the rise of the 10 kings, 10 zones however you want to see it. And that means we are closer than ever to the Tribulation, and that means the RAPTURE is even closer!


Canada and Greenland are the northern part of the North American Zone. Panama will be added, and all for reasons that make sense for American security and without the permission of the governed. We didn't vote for this, but it will happen. Mexico will be added. Voting will become a thing of the past in many countries. These blocs will be ruled by the unelected elites. That is a technocracy.

I've begun to look at this administration as I've said in the past- as the best way the technocrats could gain access to the funding, the power etc in America. Where else do you find the innovation, that produced the internet? That same internet that Obama gave away.

America is the womb in which the future technocracy was incubated. Internet, Quantum computing, AI, it's all finally coming to it's moment of power, and it can't happen without America.

And for this new wave of govt control remember Trump's first term. I heard a gal today who rightly pointed out that almost no churches would have voluntarily closed under Hilary Clinton's presidency. It had to be under Trump that the full force of Covid legislation happened, to speed the shots, to shut down the country (and the world followed suit).

This was a giant leap forward for technocracy. Technocracy simply means rulership by the elite without a vote. WHAT ELSE could you call what happened in 2020.

By the time Biden was elected (or placed) much of the country was being ruled by medical technocracy. Biden increased that. But it started under Trump. The American people trust Trump. He does have their interests at heart.

But as I've said before, I think he is being manipulated just as he was by Fauci and that team in Covid.

This is how it begins. For what it's worth, it's an ugly process. It's not "right" but we are living just before the Tribulation begins. WE SHOULD SEE THIS HAPPENING.

I'm over most of the angst. I'm looking at this thru the viewpoint of Scripture.




If I'm living in the time just before the Tribulation (the Rapture comes first YAY) THEN it's NOT a surprise to see some things happen- unpleasant things. When you see all these things BEGIN to happen- and both Matthew 24 and Luke 21 tie that to the fig tree we are to look up because our Redemption draws near.

Notice that in both passages, tied to the fig tree- Israel- and Luke 21:27-29 says BEGIN to happen,

while Matt 24:32-33 says this- and Jesus ties it to that generation.
32 Now learn a parable of the fig tree; When his branch is yet tender, and putteth forth leaves, ye know that summer is nigh:

33 So likewise ye, when ye shall see all these things, know that it is near, even at the doors.

The term it refers back to the Tribulation and the Second Coming.

So both passages refer to an event that we can see begining.

And from where I sit, I think I do see it beginning.

I often wondered how Noah felt as he kept hammering away building that Ark. He knew what was coming. He knew his neighbours and relatives were doomed. He was a preacher of righteousness as 2 Peter 2:5 says.

He knew that nothing would ever be the same. He might have grieved a bit- grieved family, friends, neighbours. But that Flood was coming, and he kept hammering away, doing what God told him.

He couldn't change God's mind, or God's timetable.

Nor can we.

We aren't building the Ark, but we are called to preach the gospel. Whether or not our country dissolves, or brings the new tech of the future into being.

Our call is the same- preach the gospel. Regardless of what country you are in, the state of things within that country, regardless of laws set up to prevent the spread of the gospel.

PREACH THE GOSPEL

The time is drawing short.

 

[1LoverofGod]

I'll watch that video.

I still can't see King Charles offering this to Trump (although Starmer might and Charles would comply) but Wood has a point, Keir Starmer and Mark Carney are both WEF, globalists and quite likely on the same page.

Interesting.

THE CLOSER WE GET TO THE RAPTURE THE STRANGER IT IS GOING TO GET DOWN HERE!!! My new motto! So far it's proving true!


Because it should.

There are a lot of parallels.

This was how the land grabs happened before WW2 in Austria first, then Czechoslovakia, Poland and the rest is as they say history. That occurred during a moment in history that it looked like Satan was trying to launch another World Empire under a single leader. Here we are at the brink of the Tribulation possibly, and we see some of the same things.

(I DO NOT mean that Trump is the AC or anything close- he is the leader God chose to put in place at this time of transition moving towards the Tribulation. Some things that happen we might not like and we cannot stop. Just like Christians caught up in WW2 from every nation) What we can do is use the time we have to reach the lost, preach the gospel to as many as possible.

Why a land grab? - the 10 kings.


Look at it from a biblical perspective:

1: Britain and her daughters (Tarshish and her cubs) will speak together someday in Ezek 38. Brexit. They did exit the European Union. Britain and her cubs speak as one in Ezek 38. Which says that the 5 Eyes relationship (Britain, America, Australia, New Zealand and Canada) retain some degree of cooperation. Whatever alliance exists by the time of Ezek 38- it includes Britain and some of her cubs or descendants.

2: Europe won't be able to rise to her prophetic place in the Trib unless they sever their dependence on America. We SHOULD see Europe pulling away from America, developing an army and that digital Euro that will start to replace cash this fall. Europe doesn't achieve much till after Ezek 38 and I think that is after the Rapture or just before. Britain and her cubs are mentioned in Ezek, Europe is not. Anger in Europe against America is rising along with the desire for her own army. I figure America will continue to irritate Europe and vice versa. IT IS NECESSARY for prophetic fulfillment I think.

3: Russia and her allies should be driven together in a common need to protect themselves from Western forces. I think this will only strengthen as America and Israel deal with Iran and Turkey continues to distance itself from America and Israel, moving towards Iran and Russia. Russia WILL absorb Ukraine (Magog) back under her authority before Ezek 38. That Russian coalition will be short of funds, so theft from Israel at some point will occur to them.

4: (Israel HAS to live in peace- so this current war WILL result in Israel's expansion and her relative peace). for THAT to happen, I think America must remain strong until the Rapture. 2 reasons: Israel AND bringing the AI, quantum computing technocracy and economic system with a traceable, trackable, TAXABLE currency to the world. So America remains strong. Trump has to be in place for that. Not Biden, Obama, or Harris. TRUMP!

5: We should see the rise of the 10 kings without kingdoms shortly. This may involve dividing the world into geographic zones, and I think that IS happening right now with Trump's expansionist plans in annexing Canada, Greenland, Panama etc.

These are not jokes. They are being treated as such by Fox news and other Trump friendly news agencies, but the full videos of his remarks to Mark Rutte the Euro head of NATO during his visit show that he is serious. Clips from that meeting are on Canadian news, and Denmark and Greenland.

Greenland today is extremely angered by Trump's visit and they point to Trump's remarks to Mark Rutte in that meeting as proof of his intent to take Greenland one way or another.

It may be hard to swallow- it's given me a lot of heartburn over the past few weeks, but I now think this is serious, not a joke and I understand why Trump is doing this, even if I don't agree with it. More importantly I begin to see a Biblical Prophetic FULFILMENT in this!

Once or twice is a joke. Repeated over and over with punitive sanctions and tariffs which increase the second we try to respond with our own tariffs, this is not a joke anymore. Several times I've heard the clip where Trump states (joking or not) that the way he will take over Canada is financially. So it is not an invasion, but a deliberate destruction of our economy. Then annexation. When someone tells you what they are doing in a joke, then repeats it over and over, then starts to do what he said he would do, it's time to take it seriously.




This IS the rise of the 10 kings, 10 zones however you want to see it. And that means we are closer than ever to the Tribulation, and that means the RAPTURE is even closer!


Canada and Greenland are the northern part of the North American Zone. Panama will be added, and all for reasons that make sense for American security and without the permission of the governed. We didn't vote for this, but it will happen. Mexico will be added. Voting will become a thing of the past in many countries. These blocs will be ruled by the unelected elites. That is a technocracy.

I've begun to look at this administration as I've said in the past- as the best way the technocrats could gain access to the funding, the power etc in America. Where else do you find the innovation, that produced the internet? That same internet that Obama gave away.

America is the womb in which the future technocracy was incubated. Internet, Quantum computing, AI, it's all finally coming to it's moment of power, and it can't happen without America.

And for this new wave of govt control remember Trump's first term. I heard a gal today who rightly pointed out that almost no churches would have voluntarily closed under Hilary Clinton's presidency. It had to be under Trump that the full force of Covid legislation happened, to speed the shots, to shut down the country (and the world followed suit).

This was a giant leap forward for technocracy. Technocracy simply means rulership by the elite without a vote. WHAT ELSE could you call what happened in 2020.

By the time Biden was elected (or placed) much of the country was being ruled by medical technocracy. Biden increased that. But it started under Trump. The American people trust Trump. He does have their interests at heart.

But as I've said before, I think he is being manipulated just as he was by Fauci and that team in Covid.

This is how it begins. For what it's worth, it's an ugly process. It's not "right" but we are living just before the Tribulation begins. WE SHOULD SEE THIS HAPPENING.

I'm over most of the angst. I'm looking at this thru the viewpoint of Scripture.




If I'm living in the time just before the Tribulation (the Rapture comes first YAY) THEN it's NOT a surprise to see some things happen- unpleasant things. When you see all these things BEGIN to happen- and both Matthew 24 and Luke 21 tie that to the fig tree we are to look up because our Redemption draws near.

Notice that in both passages, tied to the fig tree- Israel- and Luke 21:27-29 says BEGIN to happen,

while Matt 24:32-33 says this- and Jesus ties it to that generation.
32 Now learn a parable of the fig tree; When his branch is yet tender, and putteth forth leaves, ye know that summer is nigh:

33 So likewise ye, when ye shall see all these things, know that it is near, even at the doors.

The term it refers back to the Tribulation and the Second Coming.

So both passages refer to an event that we can see begining.

And from where I sit, I think I do see it beginning.

I often wondered how Noah felt as he kept hammering away building that Ark. He knew what was coming. He knew his neighbours and relatives were doomed. He was a preacher of righteousness as 2 Peter 2:5 says.

He knew that nothing would ever be the same. He might have grieved a bit- grieved family, friends, neighbours. But that Flood was coming, and he kept hammering away, doing what God told him.

He couldn't change God's mind, or God's timetable.

Nor can we.

We aren't building the Ark, but we are called to preach the gospel. Whether or not our country dissolves, or brings the new tech of the future into being.

Our call is the same- preach the gospel. Regardless of what country you are in, the state of things within that country, regardless of laws set up to prevent the spread of the gospel.

PREACH THE GOSPEL

The time is drawing short.

You sorted it out very well.
I've had the mindset that while we see the good that Trump is doing, watch closely what's happening behind the scenes.
A lot that looks good on the surface has things being set up to go towards those things you bring up.
It's no accident those who have been brought into the Administration that aren't official Cabinet appointees but have significant roles in completely transforming everything, not only in the US but essentially it will be a global impact.
As you said, get the gospel out, time is shorter than ever...

12 “And behold, I am coming quickly, and My reward is with Me, to give to every one according to his work
20 He who testifies to these things says, “Surely I am coming quickly.”
Revelation 22:12&20

 

[Margery]

It's no accident those who have been brought into the Administration that aren't official Cabinet appointees but have significant roles in completely transforming everything, not only in the US but essentially it will be a global impact.
As you said, get the gospel out, time is shorter than ever...

Exactly!

 

[Ghoti Ichthus]

We aren't building the Ark, but we are called to preach the gospel. Whether or not our country dissolves, or brings the new tech of the future into being.

Our call is the same- preach the gospel. Regardless of what country you are in, the state of things within that country, regardless of laws set up to prevent the spread of the gospel.

PREACH THE GOSPEL

The time is drawing short.

As you said, get the gospel out, time is shorter than ever...

12 “And behold, I am coming quickly, and My reward is with Me, to give to every one according to his work
20 He who testifies to these things says, “Surely I am coming quickly.”
Revelation 22:12&20

I'm getting more and more positive reactions to my Gospel text T-shirts
from both Christians AND (obvious) non-Christians.
almost all of the resistance/negativity is from PC/woke, new age, occult, and satanist


THE HOLY GHOST AT WORK! (I'm just a mobile/portable billboard)





What an awesome privilege to see God in action!


This, alone, tells me time is getting shorter and shorter. It would be cool if someone came to saving faith because of the Rapture and he or she just happened to be my size, so he or she could appropriate and continue on with the T-shirt I don't believe in coincidences, so perhaps God will make it so this sized person will be next to/near me at that moment

 

[1LoverofGod]

Exactly!

You know what just came to mind?
I was remembering back when Trump had his first term.
When he was doing the things for Israel, like acknowledging Jerusalem as Capital of Israel and the Golan Heights as Israeli territory.
I would read some comments in Livestream chats on YouTube saying that The Rapture was really soon and it was because President Trump was The Last Trump referenced in
1 Corinthians 15:52

"in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet. For the trumpet will sound, and the dead will be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed."

I would laugh about it because it sounded so silly that President Trump would be The Last Trump as they were saying.

I still don't think this verse has anything to do with President Trump, but somehow it's hard to not believe that this President Trump is accelerating the last days.
Maybe that's the purpose he was put in office, to advance Bible prophecy? IDK but it's like he's doing stuff that is heading in the direction of the Tribulation, and probably doesn't even know it, and he's laughing about it all the way there, lol. Everything he's doing is like pouring gasoline on a fire lol

I'm like you, every day has me going wow! Because of how fast things are happening in just about everything possible, and it's got the world spinning on fast mode.
I imagine the world leaders are up all night thinking "what's Trump going to do next?!" Lol

Sometimes I look at what's going on and it's as though pages out of prophecy scripture is jumping out of the Bible in real time.
Fascinating times we are living in for sure.

 

[Cheeky200386]

You know what just came to mind?
I was remembering back when Trump had his first term.
When he was doing the things for Israel, like acknowledging Jerusalem as Capital of Israel and the Golan Heights as Israeli territory.
I would read some comments in Livestream chats on YouTube saying that The Rapture was really soon and it was because President Trump was The Last Trump referenced in
1 Corinthians 15:52

"in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet. For the trumpet will sound, and the dead will be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed."

I would laugh about it because it sounded so silly that President Trump would be The Last Trump as they were saying.

I still don't think this verse has anything to do with President Trump, but somehow it's hard to not believe that this President Trump is accelerating the last days.
Maybe that's the purpose he was put in office, to advance Bible prophecy? IDK but it's like he's doing stuff that is heading in the direction of the Tribulation, and probably doesn't even know it, and he's laughing about it all the way there, lol. Everything he's doing is like pouring gasoline on a fire lol

I'm like you, every day has me going wow! Because of how fast things are happening in just about everything possible, and it's got the world spinning on fast mode.
I imagine the world leaders are up all night thinking "what's Trump going to do next?!" Lol

Sometimes I look at what's going on and it's as though pages out of prophecy scripture is jumping out of the Bible in real time.
Fascinating times we are living in for sure.

It is cool to consider Trump as the last Trump. I am more and more convinced we are out of here by the end of 2026. I just can’t see my kids growing up nor much of a future here because of the rapid speed things are happening. The sense of urgency I’m feeling is getting more and more intense each day to get the Gospel out.

I want to plead with my lost loved ones but they only scoff and it’s awful to imagine them staying behind. The desire to fast and pray more has been on my mind as well. I believe this is it everyone. Our time is almost done.

 

[Ghoti Ichthus]

You know what just came to mind?
I was remembering back when Trump had his first term.
When he was doing the things for Israel, like acknowledging Jerusalem as Capital of Israel and the Golan Heights as Israeli territory.
I would read some comments in Livestream chats on YouTube saying that The Rapture was really soon and it was because President Trump was The Last Trump referenced in
1 Corinthians 15:52

"in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet. For the trumpet will sound, and the dead will be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed."

I would laugh about it because it sounded so silly that President Trump would be The Last Trump as they were saying.

I still don't think this verse has anything to do with President Trump, but somehow it's hard to not believe that this President Trump is accelerating the last days.
Maybe that's the purpose he was put in office, to advance Bible prophecy? IDK but it's like he's doing stuff that is heading in the direction of the Tribulation, and probably doesn't even know it, and he's laughing about it all the way there, lol. Everything he's doing is like pouring gasoline on a fire lol

I'm like you, every day has me going wow! Because of how fast things are happening in just about everything possible, and it's got the world spinning on fast mode.
I imagine the world leaders are up all night thinking "what's Trump going to do next?!" Lol

Sometimes I look at what's going on and it's as though pages out of prophecy scripture is jumping out of the Bible in real time.
Fascinating times we are living in for sure.

I don't believe in coincidences.

God has a sense of humor


President Trump is named Trump for some reason.

The last shofar blast this Passover is the evening of Resurrection Day, which all Christians will be celebrating at the same time (often doesn't happen due to differences in calculating when Resurrection Sunday is to be celebrated).

 

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I ran across a website a couple years ago that made quite a convincing case that it would be William. Seeing as Charles is in bad health I want to find that again.
Just morbid curiosity

I ran into a content creator on YouTube in 2017 after the 9-23-17 stalarium craze. He actually made some pretty good videos. And had quite a robust backdrop (much more than I saw anywhere else that that was likely the Rev 12 sign). I corresponded with him quite a bit for several weeks. A very nice man. But convinced he was a prophet. As a cessationist, I believe there are likely ways in which I have some blind spots to how God may operate in the body of Christ. I have had some unusual experiences myself. But when it comes to prophet, I am not really tracking like that. And I tried to get him to see he might be a bit delusional, in love though. I couldn't...lol. He was convinced back then that Prince Harry would be the AC. Because of his affiliation with the RFID chip. 7 years later, Harry is not making the same waves as he was back then. Who knows, maybe later.

Because of Charles statement about one to come, I think a lot of people think its him. I use to think who might be AC. I thought that very strongly about Trump in 2017. But because of Dan 11:37 I let it go after several weeks. I honestly have not thought of who might be the AC in years. There is I suppose a chance some in the church might know before we rapture. But I lean more toward, we won't know. I guess primarily now because I would see Ez 38 as the main closing event to the age of grace. So that and what leads up to it would likely be a lot louder than having clarity on pinpointing an AC I think. But out of the disturbance of that moment, I believe that age will wake up to discover who it is, but won't recognize it. New believers though will likely have the hair on the back of their necks standing up though...lol.

 

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Does this mean I need to sharpen my bayonet and take my musket to the range?

NO, NO, NO!!!




and does it mean I have to find two supplements to replace the UK ones I currently buy?

This is the kind of event, pending it actually happening, where it, to me, serves as an example of Providence being a thing. Not that Providence was ever not a thing...lol. But in a sense, on things like this, I suppose I could be called a "naturalist." This event if it happens (and even if not, just the mention and the stir) signals something doesn't it?

By naturalist I mean would God use political nature as writing on the wall? And if so, why? If He did it would not go against prophecy. But it might, to us, seem as not so ajacent to it. Which is the point of where a naturalist like notice of God's Providence has a taking of central stage moment at perhaps this time. Possibly even seeming to upstage prophecy.

In any event, as a cessationist, I would not expect God to use prophets to explain the end times today. I believe in diverse ways He uses the church. But that function to me would seem more an office to warn. Not so much an office to present. What I mean by that difference is that to warn is certain. We know what's coming at some point. And it is good and healthy the world be on notice. But presenting, to me, is a whole other ball of wax. To present, would be to demonstrate accurately and articulately what is going on now. But it seems like much of the church is either unclear or divided on that. Which would infer to me, we are not presenters.

Then who? I believe the biggest one is Israel. Not reanimated prophets. But in their providential undertaking. They inform what is actually going on. And as is the case that we notice God using Israel in this providential way...it also echoes providence. And that may turn more of a spotlight on Providence as the presenter. Which would be one way I would be so adverse to what I consider to be somewhat lazy prophetic analysis, Hagelian Dialectic. Because if God demonstrates He is using Israel that way (the fig). He may also use the other nations (all the trees). So like in that sense, a naturalist.

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So what might America commingling with England providential inform? Obviously this is just a guess. But I would see answer to that in two sphere's. One in the prophetic. And one in the naturalistic sense.

PROPHETIC
I would see Daniel's Lion losing its wings as America. Not too many venture that. But being that America historically changed everthing. I doubt its a stretch. But who knows. Anyway, prophetically instead of looking at America taking a knee to England (which seems naturally to be our gut level reaction), to me, it would silhouette and wink at Daniels Lion. Like, "Remember the lion (England) who got wings (Eagl--Daniel 7 actually says that) and flew away. And lost its wings. And stood up like a man (democracy...not monarchy) and got a heart like a man. Diplomacy, not beast rule. The change in governance from the age of kings and queens seems to be most countered historically from grand effect, by America. The most human (for better and for worse) heart of the democracies.

So for America to rekindle (perhaps even maybe rescue) England, may not be the story so much pertaining to our 5 minutes of life. But perhaps more toward closure of the Daniel animal story in the age of grace possibly. Where America fought England and won. Now, as England is older like a grand parent, we return not to be under her, but to help her in her old age. That coupled with the young lions of Tarshish resonate most for me in this. Not what it seems to possibly mean in our cultural moment--or as perceived as such. And in that way, the providential meets the prophetic. Somewhat like Israel. But certainly not as exacting by any stretch. Because Israel is the apple of God's eye.

PROVIDENTIAL
The providential feature in this would seem to be an overture to an age saturated with irony, and out of the norm (which we most certainly do live in). An age to see America afresh. And maybe perhaps England too. And if America does end up helping England and other nations states in the EU to see the healthier path without the EU, then perhaps it marks our age by that strange alignment.

Prophetically I believe America becomes extremely powerful and does not collapse or weaken. Yet Evangelicalism has convinced itself it must. Because we are typically sold on the 10 nation confederacy coming out of the EU (even though it could be 5 from Constantinople leg of the statue Daniel interpreted--AND of course there is the curious mystery of 10 nations who have not received a king yet...possibly in mention of our contemporaneous condition...who knows). So to see the EU dissipated, would not be allowed in Evangelicalism.

I'm of the view that America will collapse the NWO globalists. And much of their hold is via the EU. So I would expect the EU to weaken if not dissolve. And later out of the wreckage perhaps the 10 nation confederacy to emerge in the tribulation age. So for me it would not be surprise. Nor am I saying it would have to happen even if America conquers the NWO. In regards to America conquering the NWO I am pretty certain. Of course this view could be off. But I am pretty certain it will go that way...strengthening Israel. But when it comes to the EU, I am not so certain how to look at that or how it may or may not fit my general view.

But all in all, the providential sense in this America/England moment I believe centers on "the notice" it brings. Providentially. The notice of a new use of America. America has been fleeced for decades. I believe that is about to change in a super major way. And "that" America coming along side England, to me, would infer grave danger to the EU. But whether America and England get together in ways or not, we don't know. What we do know is that it has been put out there for all the world to see. And in that sense, providentially, I would believe it winks at a way to highlight America as a thing to watch. A notice to the world. Because, to me, it would seem God will use America in potentially an unprecedented way.

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I know this kind of throws a monkey wrench into the staple generic watcher templates. But I believe providentially it to be a healthy thing. Not a Hagelian Dialectic thing because it messes with the evangelical blueprint. And if this ends up being a motif that belongs to this event, then, to me, it would be winking to the church how very much Providence is in play. And its ok to see that. My 2 cents. Blessings.

 

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I am glad I can transition to speaking the King's quite well.

Lessons at my place if anyone needs assistance with their assimilation. Bring your own lunch.

 

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Hi @Margery -- I agree with your number 4.

I understand a concern with the 10 nation confederacy. But I don't think we have to see or know that before the rapture. Maybe we will. But to me it seems to tend to lead to a lot of conjecture heavy thinking. I believe the 10 nation confederacy evolves not having a kingdom. So we may not know how best to look at it. Maybe some of our views are correct leaning. But I kind of feel like looking for the 10 now is putting the cart before the horse--to some degree, perhaps. Although I find those who have this interest to perk my interest nevertheless. Amen.

WHAT OUR CULTURAL NORMS CAN INFORM US CONCERNING SOMETIMES HOW WE VIEW THINGS
You mentioned about Trump needing to be in place because the churches would have never listened to Hilary had she remained. I think that is an interesting view. That perhaps Hilary would not have advanced technocracy as well. Usually views like this though have Trump complicit. Like the Hegelian Dialectic view where they are all pretending. I don't share in views like that though because I don't believe, as wicked and scheming and powerful as the globalist are, they are that smart or all seeing. On the innocent front of that, we know scripture unfolds as it tells us...so we think maybe since a tribulation age is coming that we have these evil geniuses that bring us to that place. No doubt there are evil geniusus and political planners that are highly intelligent. On the not-so innocent front, I would say I find great irony with those who are concerned with Trump worship but are fine with worshipping how powerful men are or the devil. Given the NWO a super human all seeing eye power to me is superstitious and at worse perhaps unknowingly worships men andveven our own views. Places them too high. I have a big problem with that. Because it asserts a swath of opinion thinking it is wise and spiritual while, to me, it is man worship too, potentially (without really feeling like it though perhaps). Again, not saying this is you. Nor even the generic views of Evangelicalism that just, to me, don't think things through maybe as much from differing perspectives (but seem cozy to land on a very few). For example of what i mean by superstituious, the all seeing eye was used in ancient art highlighting the Father, and the Son, and the Holy Spirit. And a way they tried to capture that. Later on stolen by the masons. But all we see when we hear all seeing eye is satan. Or the 3rd eye. But i tell you...God is still the all seeing eye. I think evil counts on us feeding it, I believe.

WHAT WOULD THIS LOOK LIKE AS A SOUTH PARK EPISODE?
The other point on this is that I don't exactly believe that if Hilary got in this or that would happen. We don't know. We believe. We conjecture. But that does not make our thoughts on that safe places to build blueprints on. But that is what I see evangelicalism doing daily. I realize you are just surmizing. And I love reading your thoughts. You are a very creative and robust thinker. Love it. But on this Hillary issue, I would say the story there is far more likely, to me, that Trump got elected by fluke of God (remember that player in end times...everybody -- tongue-in-cheek). I mean God still does stuff sometimes. lol. I think that could be one. We tend to think not because some of us might be intimidate off that thought because of the grotesque level of seemingly blasphemous moves Trump makes. Plus NAR. So, no, we can't see that as an act of God. Where I eat free range grass...lol, and have no problem believing it to potentially being an act of God. It may not be. But it may be. When Gog gets a hook in his mouth...it too is an act of God. But what tends to happen, from what I see in general, is the tendency to see the NWO as the masterful zietguist. Understandably...but a concern there, to me, is its tendency to transplant our ideas of things and superimpose them onto the NWO granting the (g)od of this world status. To me, that runs too close to Sympathy with The Devil. And the Rolling Stones is now controlling Evangelicalism...muhahaha. lol. I say that in light fun. Just saying. I understand it. But to me this is too dark age like for me. Things the Catholic superstitions would impose on the masses. Only today we help ourselves to it possibly...and need little help in so doing. And in a sense, i'm kind of an expert in the field. Myself being Wednesday Addams in a mans body. Yuk yuk. But on the real...

WHEN EVENTS ON FACEBOOK ARE BIGGER THAN LIFE
I believe the more likely possibility (as I apply of course to myself the dangers of conjecture) that had Hillary won, it would be smooth and convincing being that many churches thought it was too unchristian like to stand opposed to government ordinances. And these would typically be churches that did not exactly honor Trump. The Economist put out a cover where 2012 would be the rise of the NWO. And it would just seem to me that Agenda 2021 would have been thought easier under Hillary though generally. The ultimate perspective on Hillary for 2016, to me, would be that we tend to look at big pharma and technology mainly when looking at the NWO. But I believe that, although certainly not ruling that out, it is healthy to consider we might trend to go a bit far with our thoughts (just from generally looking at how that sort of thing occurs in culture). So what we did see though is attempts to shut commerce down globally. And we did. When we note that, had Hillary been in office, I don't think we would have seen a vaccine. I believe that opportunity was too primed to bring on the Great Reset. Locking people down from fear, and destroying economies globally would be too great a force for the world to come back from. Had Hillary been presdident, we would already be experiencing the Great reset today I believe. And the Eukraine/Russia war on top of global shutdowns would have cemented that. When I conjecture (which too of course is what that is), that seems to be more sensible though. Because that was Agenda 2021. And it seems like they are kind of behind schedule now. Quite a bit. Well that is where all those thoughts take me in any event. Maybe just something to consider too I reckon. But if true, what just happened is we watched Providence avert the globals reset, and with that assign even greater roles to the NWO as if they meant to not do the Great Reset. This is kind of the confusion I see the left having to scratch their heads and deal with. As they were the bulk of Tesla purchases. Only to now see that Tesla is the bad guy? And we should now destroy our cars of the future? To the left mind, I think its helpful to appreciate how the left might prove to be wiser than the right. Because when they start seeing inconsistencies like that in their own camp (that now the green climate change car of the future does not matter any more), they might wake up out of their stupor perhaps faster than the right might out of ours.

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In general, I believe it might be easier to see connections as things in our era that aligns with Ez 38 formation perhaps more than how we understand things go in the tribulation. Generally I believe this because America seems to be kind of in the way of everything...lol. So there seems to be added conjecture to tweek America into tribulation orientation thinking. And although no doubt there will likely be carry over. I just don't see the best possible orientation to match it up with what happens in the tribulation. I understand the interest to do so. And we likely will still do this anyway. But, to me, its seems a bit cleaner to match things up associated with the age of grace we are currently in. Which, again, I think your number 4 is the substance of things not seen. Blessings.



4: (Israel HAS to live in peace- so this current war WILL result in Israel's expansion and her relative peace). for THAT to happen, I think America must remain strong until the Rapture. 2 reasons: Israel AND bringing the AI, quantum computing technocracy and economic system with a traceable, trackable, TAXABLE currency to the world. So America remains strong. Trump has to be in place for that. Not Biden, Obama, or Harris. TRUMP!

 

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It is cool to consider Trump as the last Trump. I am more and more convinced we are out of here by the end of 2026. I just can’t see my kids growing up nor much of a future here because of the rapid speed things are happening. The sense of urgency I’m feeling is getting more and more intense each day to get the Gospel out.

I want to plead with my lost loved ones but they only scoff and it’s awful to imagine them staying behind. The desire to fast and pray more has been on my mind as well. I believe this is it everyone. Our time is almost done.

Amen dear sister. In the event some features of what seems to be a potential end time landscape would not be limited to the speed by which things are happening. And we see peace and safety as a unique and newly arrived theme for Israel in our day (largley likely because of the USA), I would guess a time like that to be a bit more relaxed. If so, I would be confused a bit at how Evangelicalism might interpret that occurance. Christian Broadcast Network -1 has put out a video about a week or so ago stating they could see America be used by God to bring peace and safety to Israel. But so far, they are the only ones currently. Perhaps there will be more. If so, that would be awesome because if we live to see that day. And that day is like that. The Golden Age for the Believer would likely mean at any moment we are about to be literally be walking on streets of gold. Blessings.

 

[Andiamo]

I am glad I can transition to speaking the King's quite well.

Lessons at my place if anyone needs assistance with their assimilation. Bring your own lunch.

I will bring bangers and mash.

 

[Andiamo]

. I have had some unusual experiences myself. But when it comes to prophet,

I am not a cessationist, but agree with you 100%…someone declaring that they are, or alluding to or even behaving as if they believe they hold the office of a prophet… personally I stay at least 100 yards away.

There is I suppose a chance some in the church might know before we rapture. But I lean more toward, we won't know

Agree. I don’t believe that we will know his identity because we would be too outspoken about it. He is going to do the wolf in sheep’s clothing thing…duping this world.