Trump plans to take over the Gaza Strip

[TCC]

If he wants to take it over temporarily in order to clear it out for Israel, then fine. But it has to go to Israel.

Yeah i am still in shock we are even talking about this. lol. But yeah, i would think Trump would have America over Gaza I guess. But temporarily. Iran must be thinking they are in a nightmare and can't wake up. I guess it makes sense though. I remember before Trump US presidents were afraid to give Israel Jerusalem as a capital. Thinking it would cause world war 3. Based on that, this is right in line with how Trump just does things. Pretty amazing. Blessings.

 

[Ghoti Ichthus]

Maybe an expansion of the successful Multinational Forces and Observers (MFO)- NOT UN-affiliated.
Camp David Accords, Part 2, with Gaza being Zone E.

Except this time, Israel doesn't give the land back to the invaders.


And while they're at it, all of Sinai, plus from the Suez to the Nile, also needs to go back to Israel.


The philistines should be taken in by Saudi or even farther away. That way, not on a vulnerable border with Israel to cause trouble.
I understand Damascus could be a good choice, but they need to hurry


Israel is the only entity entitled to Gaza (and any other part of Israel, from the Nile to the Euphrates). God gave it to Abraham, and it was passed through Israel as an inheritance FOREVER. Israel can't even legitimately give it away.

 

[Ronnie]

It appears that Trump understands that there will be no peace so long as the current occupants of gaza continue to live there... He wants a real solution. I like that. I can't imagine a country willingly taking in a people who are so full of hate though.

The people of Gaza’s grandparents and/or great grandparents were born in Jordan or Egypt.

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[1LoverofGod]

I'm don't feel comfortable with the US "buying" Gaza.
If for whatever reason President Trump is not able to finish his term, this is hypothetical, and whoever takes over his position we cannot know where it would go with US owning Gaza.
I still feel the best way is for US to have "control" over Gaza but to Help Israel rebuild and take ultimate control over their own God given Land and maybe US military bases can be planted in Gaza to insure stability and protection from Terrorists RE entering Gaza.
This would be the way to bless Israel and God bless the USA.
Praying for God to give guidance and wisdom to President Trump by using a believer to counsel him on what to do with Gaza

 

[Ronnie]

I was thinking that there would no purchase, just move in.

 

[LightOfMyLife]

Who does Gaza belong to? https://www.israelnationalnews.com/news/395791

 

[Ronnie]

Gaza. Who does it belong to?​

Israel went to war against Hamas and is now in possession of all of Gaza, though there remain pockets of resistance. By international law, Israel has the right to annex Gaza as she acquired it in a war of self-defense. Opinion.​

Gaza. Who does it belong to?

Israel went to war against Hamas and is now in possession of all of Gaza, though there remain pockets of resistance. By international law, Israel has the right to annex Gaza as she acquired it in a war of self-defense. Opinion.

www.israelnationalnews.com

Yay Israel!

 

[TCC]

I'm don't feel comfortable with the US "buying" Gaza.
If for whatever reason President Trump is not able to finish his term, this is hypothetical, and whoever takes over his position we cannot know where it would go with US owning Gaza.
I still feel the best way is for US to have "control" over Gaza but to Help Israel rebuild and take ultimate control over their own God given Land and maybe US military bases can be planted in Gaza to insure stability and protection from Terrorists RE entering Gaza.
This would be the way to bless Israel and God bless the USA.
Praying for God to give guidance and wisdom to President Trump by using a believer to counsel him on what to do with Gaza

In times like this, I believe it is good to remember that what nations say publicly is a sort of "currency." Like money. It has a certain value associated with it. Throughout history we can see nations taking certain positions publicly that behind the scenes play out somewhat differently. In some cases this can be deception. But in general as a rule, "the newspaper version statements and affirmations of national leaders" mean one thing publicly. But often are 1 piece of a far more politically complex composition.

In this case, it could be understood that America be not seen as taking over Gaza temporarily for Isreal. The reason for that would likely be that most Arab adversaries to Israel would see that America is just buying time to merely give Gaza back to Israel (because it is understood when America has conservative leadership it favors Israel). If America says "We will take it over until things settle down and then give it back to Israel," that is like saying: AMERICA GIVES GAZA BACK TO ISRAEL. And the idea of America taking control of Gaza for now is to bring stability to the region. Not start new turmoil. If America is seen as trying to give Gaza back to Israel, that is more toxic to the region than saying America will keep it. Because then, you can't really technically say America is giving Gaza back to Israel. At least technically.

I don't believe Zephaniah factors into this scene. What seems far more likely, in general, is that Israel will get stronger with Abraham Accords strengthening for the region. And as much as we tend to blend the Abraham Accords into end times covenant with the many, I don't believe this is the age appopriate sense that belongs to the Abraham Accords. Because we are in the age of grace still. So if Abraham Accords grants temporary peace in the region, then it likely means for the age of grace: peace in the region. And as that dust settles, it would make sense this provide Israel their Ez 38 context. Which would mean that the Abraham Accords would be prophetically providential for the Ez 38 prophecy to form out from.

One thing I think too that is helpful in associating our current day context with Israel is that when Ez 38 hits, Israel will not be looked at in terms of who is dividing it or not. By that time, Israel will lose 2/3rds of their country. So if we go by what divides Israel in the sense of a tenth of land or a 5th of land, everything is leaning toward them losing 2/3rds of their country in our age anyway. Looking at it this way might be a more context sensitive overview:

• 1st Century Israel rejects her Messiah
• 2nd Century Israel is diaspora-ed
• 20th Century -- Israel returns to her land God Himself kept her from for 2,000 years
• Israel gains great strides in her return
• By God's grace Israel gets priviledged protection and advancement
• By God's grace Israel enters into peace in her region
• Ez 38 takes out 2/3rds of her country
• God repays those who went against Israel
• The tribulation

So in that schematic, why is dividing Israel an issue? They are going to lose it anyway. The Joel 3:2 passage not to divide Israel refers to Israel's land mass in the tribulation. Prior to the tribulation, Israel (from their standpoint) is not in any covenant with God. Once the 70th week hits, Isreal is in her targeted zone in reference to God's dealings with them specifically. So the 70th week is God's dealing with Israel. Until then, we have Israel in age of grace genre where they basically just came back to their land. And various nations are trying to work for her good. I think putting a context of dividing Israel or not is either in regards to Israel's 69th week (which was centuries ago), or her 70th week. Both in which her context is under the special covenent "active" God has place Israel within. Outside of that (as I would see it), Israel is given grace to consider rapture with the church. Or get hit with Ez 38. Not holding on to her land or not. In the meantime, like any nation, Israel needs to be responsible and reasonably protect her nation.

I just think overlaying what belongs to Israel or not at this point is an argument for a week she belongs under God's direction supervision. Outside of the 69th week and the 70th week, Israel is not even conscious of her God. So what God provides her in the meantime is His grace sustaining. God well understands the trying conditions Israel is in in her region. He placed her in those conditions. Since Israel is on a fast track trajectory for Ez 38 and her 70th week, that reality (as I would see it) Trump whatever else we think belongs in that. And I would venture to say as well, how we might be thinking of the dividing of Israel issue. I believe the dispensation Israel is in today in not of "high focus whether she is a 1, 2, or 3 state." She is on a train to Ez 38 and her 70th week. And that trajectory, in my understanding, Trump's every other consideration that might apply. IMHO. Blessings.

 

[TCC]

Gaza. Who does it belong to?​

Israel went to war against Hamas and is now in possession of all of Gaza, though there remain pockets of resistance. By international law, Israel has the right to annex Gaza as she acquired it in a war of self-defense. Opinion.​

Gaza. Who does it belong to?

Israel went to war against Hamas and is now in possession of all of Gaza, though there remain pockets of resistance. By international law, Israel has the right to annex Gaza as she acquired it in a war of self-defense. Opinion.

www.israelnationalnews.com

Yay Israel!

Yeah Amen. Like I mentioned on another post, I see MAGA as MIGA. Make Israel Great Again. But I think America, Christian Nationalism, NAR, Luciferian Light, Trump, Elon, New Age, all that stuff are things in our temporal mind leans us away from the most obvious providence of God in all of this. That God is using America to Make Israel Great Again. But there is a super lot of distracting focus on what else this means. When simply seen in His awesome beautifully Providence...God is simply using America to strengthen Israel. And for some reason it does seem to some extent that pockets of the watcher world will not permit that to be the newspaper version. Somehow a different news paper version compared to the Providence of God seems to be preferred. In my soul, I long for the day when and if we might see past what distracts us from what seems to be like overly simply occuring. It is understandable how excitement will have us thinking many things. But I just hope it at least includes what is happening more or less prophetically. IMHO estimation. Blessings. Thanks for the article. Amen.

 

[Tall Timbers]

Donald Trump Makes Controversial Announcement About Gaza Residents​

The president continued, “Think of it as a real estate development for the future. It would be a beautiful piece of land.”

“Would the Palestinians have the right to return?” Baier asked.

Trump answered:

No, they wouldn't because they're going to have much better housing, much better... In other words, I'm talking about building a permanent place for them because if they have to return now, it'll be years before you could ever... It's not habitable. It will be years before it could happen.

Trump reiterated his plan to have at least most of the Palestinians relocated to Egypt and Jordan and indicated he was optimistic about cutting a deal with both governments.

Donald Trump Makes Controversial Announcement About Gaza Residents

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[TCC]

Donald Trump Makes Controversial Announcement About Gaza Residents​

The president continued, “Think of it as a real estate development for the future. It would be a beautiful piece of land.”

“Would the Palestinians have the right to return?” Baier asked.

Trump answered:



Trump reiterated his plan to have at least most of the Palestinians relocated to Egypt and Jordan and indicated he was optimistic about cutting a deal with both governments.

Donald Trump Makes Controversial Announcement About Gaza Residents

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Almost sounds too practical and reasonable. Something must be wrong...lol. Blessings brother. Thanks for the update.

 

[Batman]

The future borders, prominence, wealth, and blessing of Israel is going to be spectacular. Whatever happens to day will be removed by unimaginable goodness. But I still hate to see what is happening and what will have to happen to end Jacob's trouble and bring in the MK.

 

[TCC]

The future borders, prominence, wealth, and blessing of Israel is going to be spectacular. Whatever happens to day will be removed by unimaginable goodness. But I still hate to see what is happening and what will have to happen to end Jacob's trouble and bring in the MK.

Thanks for stating this brother. In this we see the same. Blessings.

 

[1LoverofGod]

***Original Story by
Washington Examiner***


Trump: US will not buy Gaza, but ‘take it’
President Donald Trump dismissed claims he would buy Gaza after announcing last week that the U.S. should "own" the Palestinian enclave.

Gaza. It's a war-torn area. We're going to take it, we're going to hold it, we're going to cherish it, we're going to get it going eventually," Trump told reporters at the White House on Tuesday.

When asked on what authority, Trump replied: "U.S. authority."

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***Original Story by
Washington Examiner***


Trump: US will not buy Gaza, but ‘take it’
President Donald Trump dismissed claims he would buy Gaza after announcing last week that the U.S. should "own" the Palestinian enclave.

Gaza. It's a war-torn area. We're going to take it, we're going to hold it, we're going to cherish it, we're going to get it going eventually," Trump told reporters at the White House on Tuesday.

When asked on what authority, Trump replied: "U.S. authority."

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On what authority...wow...that is amazing. Far be it from America to be imperialistic.

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And perhaps in a way Ez 38 might be an intention against the USA (although not having the guts or ability to take America settle for Israel). Wow, if that is related, and I am not saying it is, the reason why America would not be mentioned in Ez 38 would be because even though we helped bring it about...God's focus is on Israel. America is not His chosen people. So in that sense the irony would be that America is not in Ez 38 because God is looking at Israel prophetically...hint hint....nudge nudge...to the watcher world. Almost like God would be using Ez 38 from a second person perspective.

For those steeped in story writing there are different POV's.

• 1st Person - "I was standing in Golan and saw a flood of people coming."
• 3rd Person -- "On the Golan, you could see John get ambushed by an endless militia." -- See something from the perspective of others
• Omniscient -- "While John was only thinking of his wife Emily before being stampeded, Emily could feel at that same time John had passed." All seeing POV.

And then there is 2nd person. Which is rare:

* 2nd person -- While John saw an army hoard approaching, he turned and looked...right at...YOU -- "So CCF, do you think i can escape in time before that army jumps me?" YOU become the POV.

Obviously Ez 38 is written from Omniscient perspective. Literally...lol. But what if there is a 2nd person POV dynamic to it? Like God leaving out America as a detail precisely for the reason to exclude them from focus (ironically unlike how we pretend to but don't). Like how some in the watcher camp have much talk about not letting America and Trump etc detour from prophecy while making all manner of narrative up about him and America to do just that. And potentially trade God's providence for pet ideas about what prophecy looks like from "my back pocket" perspective...possibly. What if God knew our age would do that? And leave America out of Ez 38 as a way shower to stop doing that. And let what happens to Israel be the narrative rather than all manner of other comic books spins we might tend to do in our age.

Its not certain at all that is why America maybe is not mentioned in Ez 38. But if it was, it would be the most salient use of 2nd person POV inferred i think would ever be recorded.

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I love that it is asked, "On what authority." Because whatever happens to Israel in our day is likely directly likely God's sovereignty over the issue. What He permits to occur with Isreal leading to Ez 38 would seem rather providential indeed. Since it is not the devil and deception that brings Gog to go against Isreal. But God Himself. I'd say maybe by, God's authority...lol? But putting that next to Trump i realize is either too unreasonably fashionable or just plain ol' blasphemy lite. But AGAIN...you guys...it almost looks like what we are watching going down here is a narrative story being told using irony as perhaps characters in our story, even. I mean don't these suble winks and nudges that prickle us all manner of ways not suggest...poke...nudge nudge...yo...hello...is....this thing on? Is it not almost like God is kickin it with us reading our story with us with every kind of bias we might have -- just something He might use or drop in the story arc to "spice it up a bit?" lol. Because to me...its like a movie production God is ticklishly making. But yeah...i know...that's just me. I'll stop. But man...this movie is getting really good...lol.