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Trump plans to take over the Gaza Strip

Ronnie

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President Trump, standing alongside Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu in a joint news conference at the White House, said the U.S. would "take over the Gaza Strip" and "own it," promoting the idea that the Palestinian people should live elsewhere.

Brilliant! -Ronnie
 

Hamas Calls Trump ‘Irresponsible’ for Gaza Takeover Plan: ‘Ridiculous and Absurd’​

The jihadist terror organization Hamas reacted with outrage to President Donald Trump’s unprecedented proposal on Tuesday for the United States to seize the Gaza Strip and turn it into a global resort destination, calling Trump “irresponsible.”

Hamas is a genocidal radical Islamist terror group backed by Iran whose objective is the destruction of the Israeli state. Gaza was plunged into a brutal war following Hamas’s decision to invade Israel on October 7, 2023, killing an estimated 1,300 people and abducting dozens of others. Hamas terrorists tortured, gang raped, abducted, and desecrated the corpses of their victims, the vast majority of them civilians living their lives peacefully when the terrorists appeared. Hamas jihadists conducted door-to-door raids in which they killed entire families in their homes, ravaged a music festival for peace, and uploaded an extensive amount of video content of their crimes on that day. Some victims are believed to have been as young as infants.

“The US will take over the Gaza Strip, and we will do a job with it, too,” Trump asserted. “We’ll love it and be responsible for dismantling all of the dangerous bombs and other weapons on the site … and get rid of the destroyed buildings [and] create an economic development that will supply unlimited numbers of jobs and housing.”


I don't think anyone is asking for Hamas' opinion. Their days are numbered.
 
I'm not sure of the long term implications but my first thought was that if we take it over then Israel can concentrate on their battles in the north and east. Our presence could also serve as a buffer between Israel and Egypt and N. Africa. I don't see the possibility of a "Riviera" type area like Donald Trump proposes, I think the rapture will come well before that could happen. Then, of course, everything comes apart.
 
It’s very bizarre to watch Bibi just standing there while Trump talks about the US taking over Gaza.

All I know is that man has their ideas but God has His plans.

Will be fascinating to watch this - or whatever is going to happen- play out.
 
I think this is gorgeous, and the most beautiful woman i have ever set eyes on -- be wisdom female. Y O U G U Y S lol ... this is way WAY too cool. Come on now...where is the victory dance emoji...lol. I think this is so so so so awesome. I would just say it might be a time coming where wanting to see God intervene instead of America (a noble thought for sure) might come on the wings after Ez 38. Where we won't likely get to see it. But I for one grant God permission to use America to build Israel to the hilt of her full on peace and safety stature for Ez 38 timing. I fully grant His God given right to do that regardless how much we might otherwise want to tap Him on the shoulder suggesting He might be getting this part wrong. :p

Of course i say that in jest and comedy. But you guys all my life it had seemed that the church (in the flesh) that wanted to tell me how to see their (g)od with their personal pedigree views of what that means (and please keep in mind i was with the most sophisticated blend of worldly manpower merged with scripture i think there is on planet earth....for in it I see still those ways occurring with that group even now too). Its still like that and the masses are eating it up (this is the branch of the American Reformed Camp thant raised me). I have been told to see God this way, that way and the other (not in contrast to true doctrine...but according to men's preferences that looked like the Holy Spirit--ANd currently sells itself as such--meaning the John Macarthur strand of this). So I want all to know I love His true church. I even loves those in deep flesh church that look outrageously godly. Because i believe they are saved but greatly misled.

But just posting this to adore the God who is the GREAT I AM. Who does not follow even the script of the end time church. This savoir and glorious God of all (g)ods is the one I WORSHIP. HE IS SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO WORTHY!!! So i am just lol trying to give you a sense that when i see God not following the evangelical script lead out for Him...it makes me fall in love with Him all the more...almost like im gonna have a baby and it leaps for joy within me. Weird huh? lol. I am one that through orthodoxy was taught to permit the church to lift one's life from themselves....and that to overly trust in the leadership is wrong. But God will show you that (wink wink) you should anywayz. Very confusing and very narcissistic -- but in a sanctified way...you understand. lol

Sorry for the long ramble i just want you guys to know that what makes me so interested in end times is that HIS voice becomes most loud in contrast to all the other ways i was taught to think like. I don't mean unbiblical. Or different theology than what is in scripture. Its just the watcher world seems to be so very set in its ways in several segments of it. Nothing agaisnt the watcher world. You guys did not have my life. So we all need to be who we are in Him. I am just letting you know my goodness gracious me....it is a day i live to see where God's opinion Trump's the eschatology of men (at least in a wink and nod way). And it is G L O R I O U S. And literally thrills me to the bone. :) I realize most here were not brought up in Rolls Royce cult theology. But unfortunately i have been. And it has fracture my person beyond repair. B U T G O D. So for Him to show Himself different from us...i so so so so glory in. Halleluiah. Because a motto in that camp was "A relationship with God is not that important. Satan has one." And that is the narcissism i was raised on and practically hypnotized in. Just trust God working through the church. Here....we'll show you....lol.

Look i love those saints. But what is is. And they are not repenting of this kind of hierarchy rule. And yet God shows Himself to not end America. But to enlarge Israel by America--potentially. Regardless how much that camp or any other church strand might see like, as we know, about eschatology. I don't have a lot invested in eschatology. I am a johnny come lately. So great respect to all forms of those who love our Lord and have varying eschatological views. Its just when pastors use a pulpit to foist their thoughts as though they were God's (like that group associated with GCC), and God proves John Macarthur not seeing straight to think America is done...but rather boosts Isreal by it instead....perhaps that gives somewhat of a clue into why seeing God move today is very precious to me. I never wanted to be a religious church head, but just know Him better. And i became that because i wanted to change from drug addiction over 20 years ago. And God used that church to bring me sobriety like nothing else could. Well, to be in His word did it. But very encouraged by Macarthur. Amen. But what he said about taking the mark of the beast and that God is done with America--and said "it's over folks" regarding America (even though a cecessationist)....wow it is so beautiful in the spirit to see God trump Macarthur. By the way please pray for his health. I am not encouraged it seems he is a long time in hospital stay. So before anything happens or not i just want to deliver a slice of life in relation to this moment.

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Look this may be something that does not happen--America running Gaza. It may change. But just this graffiti writing on the wall is likened to getting an engagement ring. To me anyway. Metaphorically, maybe i meet someone else. Maybe i end up single. Which ever...right now I'm sporting that ring...lol. God making the plans and thoughts of men irrelevant. I realize that means me too. But when "He" does it so directly for all the world to see (and it not be a man made obstacle course for perhaps some fake church obedience measure)...it makes me want to give all my belongings away and just go live in country side chillin. :)

By the way...thanks for posting this. Pretty cool no? lol Blessings.

PS -- Please note that even though I might speak very plainly about some things in the past, even though I would see Macarthurs ministry philosophy not altogether healthy, in ways I did have respect for him and his ministry style. Because God did so many powerful and beautiful things through that body of believers, I most certainly found the hand of God their in spades. And some very found a very powerful memories. It was almost like an oasis point in my life seeing so many incredible things. And my constantly being in the word was hugely encouraged by Macarthur and his ministry. What literally saved my life. But there is a mode there where they use high-end social engineering that is par excellence. But is a church ran by social strategy (like at the level found in royal courts--never seen anything else like it). Even in all of that, I can also see God using that church in massive ways. One example: Macarthur literally defending the church against Newsome and COVID government overreach. Many camps surrounding him took pop-shots at him doing that. But not me. I actually think the way they do ministry is amazing. But I don't exactly see it as biblical. Even in being there, it is hard often to understand the mechanics. I have a lot of love for them. But its a social engineering frat house of sorts. It was just really off the charts exciting to see what seems like God's challenging such a prominent figure right out there in the open on front street. It is bitter sweet.
 

Trump says U.S. will ‘take over’ Gaza strip, won’t rule out military force​


President Trump on Tuesday said the U.S. could take over Gaza and remove Palestinians from the area without ruling out the possibility of sending American troops to the region, saying it could become “the Riviera of the Middle East.”

The president decried Gaza as a “hellhole,” saying it was that way before Israel began bombing the enclave following the Hamas terror attack Oct. 7, 2023.

“President Trump is taking it to a much higher level,” Mr. Netanyahu said. “He sees a different future for that piece of land that has been the focus of so much terrorism, so much — so many attacks against us. So, many trials and so many tribulations. He has a different idea, and I think it’s worth paying attention to this. We’re talking about it. He’s exploring it with his people, with his staff.”

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Is not Gaza Israel's land? Part of what God gave to Abraham? I guess Israel gave it to the "Palestinians", and Hamas came in power and took it over, using it for terrorist activities, but it worries me Trump talking about "taking it over". I don't understand how all this works. Maybe we go in and help rebuild it, manage it, but it belongs to Israel? Is this dividing The Land? If so, that would go badly for us. Maybe this is a part of setting up the "People living peacefully, without walls or gates" conditions that exist prior to E38?
 
Is not Gaza Israel's land? Part of what God gave to Abraham? I guess Israel gave it to the "Palestinians", and Hamas came in power and took it over, using it for terrorist activities, but it worries me Trump talking about "taking it over". I don't understand how all this works. Maybe we go in and help rebuild it, manage it, but it belongs to Israel? Is this dividing The Land? If so, that would go badly for us. Maybe this is a part of setting up the "People living peacefully, without walls or gates" conditions that exist prior to E38?
Yes I believe that last part is true Pixel. From what I can tell, dividing the land is not the concept issue. God will judge those who divide Israel to force her out of her homeland. That is different than trying to work with already historic modern day standards of an already contentiously divided Israel and trying to make it diplomatically work so that Israel can live in peace. To divide Israel will be punished if for the reason of dispersing the people. But if Israel is already conentiously divided from 1948 (when God brought them back into the land after 2,000 years of 0 land to divide) with this rival contentious issue in Gaza from the inception of their land establishment in 1948, there is no division for the purpose of disbersion. Only working with how to diplomatically adjust what is already contentiously divided -- that God provided such a condition for them to struggle in since they returned in 1948. If that makes sense?

I understand your concern about Trump. But it may not be America that ends up getting control of Gaza. Ideally Saudi Arabia, Jordan, and Qatar should share in diplomacy there I believe. But that still leaves however they might be effected by either Iran influence on Qatar/Jordan or how Saudi Arabia may want to be tempted to use control levers in Gaza to force diplomacy also in their favor. Its a tough spot. If America does end up in governing that region, wow, that would be almost like Israel getting it back because Israel has had a lot of influence over the USA. Not with like a Biden regime. But Trump in the past has made reference to Israel controlling Congress in the past. He made an Executive order in 2019 that would block Federal aid to universities that permit anti-semitism. And now that he is back, adds to it force...


Also, churches are afraid that this US Congress passed bill could restricting what we can preached (the slippery slope version of this) from the pulpit regarding how Christ historically was turned over from Israel to Rome. And call it hate speech if churches preach that Christ that the Jewish leaders of that day wanted Him dead. This of course has not happened yet in the USA, but there are also concerns (based on Congress passing 6090) of what it does to free speech in America if we start labeling things "hate speech." There is a lot of concern of HR 6090 passed a year ago.


In addition there is also been a recent social media viral situation where what is being discovered (from DailyWire firings/The Mega Horn of Candace Owens/Peirs Morgan/An0maly/ValueTainment etc) that made it super SUPER loud -- that there is very noticeable black listing from Jewish owned segments of media that have power to end national careers if it is suspected someone says something not esteeming Israel in a good and solid light. Like there is not supposed to be concerns over Gaza blow back from Israel. Or that Israel might have overreached in some cases in how they choose to strike back. Granted, I would empathisize with what terrorist elements Israel faces in her own country, but accountability not to be in danger of committing war crimes is reasonable. Yet can be considered anti-semitism according to International Holocaust Remembrance Alliance's (IHRA's) which Congress and Trump's Executive Order, and media giant Daily wire swear by.

But I show you these things because in a way...having America govern Gaza in many eyes is the same as Israel taking it back. I don't think it is literally that way. But if America stays conservative...it will be like giving Gaza back over to Israel through America. So in one way, instead of seeing America divide Israel, it would be likely more true that America moves to put Israel back into wholeness. But I think that talking point is a little too out there for most of the watcher world to put in some kind of context. It kind of blows a gasket...lol. Interesting times for sure. Blessings.
 
Is not Gaza Israel's land? Part of what God gave to Abraham? I guess Israel gave it to the "Palestinians", and Hamas came in power and took it over, using it for terrorist activities, but it worries me Trump talking about "taking it over". I don't understand how all this works. Maybe we go in and help rebuild it, manage it, but it belongs to Israel? Is this dividing The Land? If so, that would go badly for us. Maybe this is a part of setting up the "People living peacefully, without walls or gates" conditions that exist prior to E38?
Legally speaking, Gaza doesn’t belong to Israel, they gave Gaza to the Palestinian Authority in 2005.

Israel's Disengagement from Gaza and North Samaria (2005)

 

Trump says Israel to hand Gaza over to US and no American soldiers needed​


U.S. president says in a post on his social media platform Truth Social that Gaza would be handed over 'at the conclusion of the fighting' and Palestinians would be resettled in 'far safer, more beautiful communities' in the region​


US President Donald Trump said in a social media post on Thursday that Israel will hand Gaza over to the U.S. at the end of the fighting but claimed no American troops would be involved.

"The Gaza Strip would be turned over to the United States by Israel at the conclusion of fighting, Trump wrote on his Truth Social platform. "The Palestinians, people like Chuck Schumer, would have already been resettled in far safer and more beautiful communities, with new and modern homes, in the region. They would actually have a chance to be happy, safe, and free. The U.S., working with great development teams from all over the World, would slowly and carefully begin the construction of what would become one of the greatest and most spectacular developments of its kind on Earth."


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