Shooting at Georgia High School

[Ghoti Ichthus]

Ummm I don’t know what they mean by “possess” but when your kid makes threats to shoot up a school that is the time to lock up your guns in a gun safe and get your kid psychological help. It’s because of morons like this that make all gun owners look bad.

Don't forget to change the combo when the kid's not around, because the kid probably knows the old one from watching adult(s) open the safe. Then don't open the safe when the kid's at home or could be watching from somewhere
If the safe's keyed, or biometric with key back-up, have the lock rekeyed and keep the new keys someplace the kid doesn't have access (not in the house, on your key ring, in your vehicle, etc.). Keep the old keys in the same places you always had them.
Don't tell the kid (or anyone, who might even accidentally tell the kid) about the changes.

 

[Andiamo]

Saw the father at the court hearing. He looks just pitiful and in shock. Heard the tape of the previous FBI questioning about the threats the kid allegedly made months ago. Apparently he believed his kid when he denied making the previous threats to shoot up a school and there was no proof the kid was the one who said that stuff online.
Quite a risk he took.
Now people are dead, and his son’s and his life is over.

 

[Margery]

Saw the father at the court hearing. He looks just pitiful and in shock. Heard the tape of the previous FBI questioning about the threats the kid allegedly made months ago. Apparently he believed his kid when he denied making the previous threats to shoot up a school and there was no proof the kid was the one who said that stuff online.
Quite a risk he took.
Now people are dead, and his son’s and his life is over.

Poor man! Living with that. Praying for his salvation and the other survivors.

 

[3Nails4Given]

That's the point. He's 14, so he still has a child's mind and capacity for understanding and self control.

I'll rant for/with you. Wonder where he got the gun?

Um, wait . . .

GBI: Father of Apalachee High School Shooting Suspect Arrested​

By Atlanta News First staff
Published: Sep. 5, 2024 at 6:38 PM CDT|Updated: 10 minutes ago

"ATLANTA, Ga. (Atlanta News First) - The father of the suspected shooter at Apalachee High School has been arrested, according to the Georgia Bureau of Investigation (GBI).
Colt Gray, 14, is accused of killing four people and hospitalizing several others in a shooting at Apalachee High School Wednesday."

"Colt’s father, 54-year-old Colin Gray, has been charged with four counts of involuntary manslaughter, two counts of second-degree murder and eight counts of cruelty to children.
FBI officials said Colt Gray was suspected of making online threats to commit a school shooting in May 2023. At the time, the 13-year-old Gray was interviewed alongside Colin, who said there were hunting guns in the house.
According to arrest warrants, the four victims at Apalachee High School were killed by a semi-automatic AR-15-style rifle.
At a press conference Thursday night, GBI Director Chris Hosey said Colin Gray “knowingly allowed” his son to possess a weapon."

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Father of Apalachee High School shooting suspect arrested, GBI says

The father of the suspected shooter at Apalachee High School has been arrested, according to the Georgia Bureau of Investigation.

www.atlantanewsfirst.com

EDITED TO ADD The last two sentences in the quoted article; they were added to the article after the press conference this evening.

Supposedly from another article I read, his father was warned in 2023 by the authorities, for his son, to have no access to firearms because of prior threats made. This will come into evidence against the father and highly likely the reason he was charged as early in this case.

If he was previously warned and still allowed his son access to firearms then he is just as culpable.

 

[Ghoti Ichthus]

Supposedly from another article I read, his father was warned in 2023 by the authorities, for his son, to have no access to firearms because of prior threats made. This will come into evidence against the father and highly likely the reason he was charged as early in this case.

If he was previously warned and still allowed his son access to firearms then he is just as culpable.

The Father's more culpable because he's the parent (ADULT), and therefore, responsible for his CHILD'S actions.
If he was warned by competent authority (law enforcement, judge, mental health provider, etc.), he almost surely has no legitimate defense.

 

[Andiamo]

Poor man! Living with that. Praying for his salvation and the other survivors.

I know - I am very angry at him but feel so badly for him too.

 

[mattfivefour]

I know - I am very angry at him but feel so badly for him too.

Yes. After all, he is a soul that needs salvation as badly as we did, a soul for whom Christ died. We need to pray for his salvation. And his son's.

 

[Eric Nicholas]

Yes. After all, he is a soul that needs salvation as badly as we did, a soul for whom Christ died. We need to pray for his salvation. And his son's.

Amen to that. God meets some of us with blood on our hands. Who am I? Who is anyone?

 

[Andy C]

The Father's more culpable because he's the parent (ADULT), and therefore, responsible for his CHILD'S actions.
If he was warned by competent authority (law enforcement, judge, mental health provider, etc.), he almost surely has no legitimate defense.

When my daughter was below the age of 18, I always had my weapons locked up, and she likely did not even know we owned any.

At home, a handgun is usually close to wherever Im sitting, but when my GD is visitng,its in the safe.

This father was criminal in his lack of actions.

 

[Andiamo]

Lots of kids in Georgia now at other schools, making threats of their own. Many have been arrested. Dear Lord. This is so sad to see the kids Godless and hopeless.

Georgia schools face threats, student arrests after Apalachee shooting | FOX 5 Atlanta

At least 11 students across Georgia have been arrested for making threats on social media toward schools or bringing weapons to class in the days after the deadly shooting at Apalachee High School.

www.fox5atlanta.com

 

[mattfivefour]

This is so sad to see the kids Godless and hopeless.

Amen!

I believe this is the result of us Christians having retreated to the safety of our churches with our faith, rather than boldly taking it out into our society without regard for the cost to us in terms of scorn, ridicule, or threats.

Surely this is the result of a Christianity that pays lip service to Christ and lives for self satisfaction; that treats faith in the home as of lesser importance than living life-- job, money, possessions, sports, entertainment; that allows television and popular culture to raise its children; and that holds to the truth of God's Word intellectually, but in practice lives no differently than the world around it.

Luke 6:44 is true: figs are not gathered from thornbushes, nor are grapes picked from a bramble bush. God is not mocked--whatsoever a man or woman sows, that shall they also reap. And America is reaping it's Laodicean crop.

So, should we sit back and wring our hands, bemoaning what is taking place around us? Or should we take up our individual crosses --signifying we are no longer our own, that our lives belong to Him who bought us with His own blood-- and actually stand up for God and His Word in our neighborhoods, regardless of the consequences? Around the world, men and women are standing up, even in societies where to do so could well result in imprisonment, torture, or death. Compared to that, what would be the cost to us?

I wonder what would happen if American Christians were to ask God for His love for the lost around them? And then begin to share out of that love, regardless of the price they might have to pay? I'm not just preaching to you, my brothers and sisters; I'm preaching to myself! O Lord, please give me Your heart for those who do not know You in these final days! O Lord, lead me into the good works which You prepared for me, according to Your Word in Ephesians 2:10! O Lord, please move upon me so that my life may count for You in some way, so that I do more than merely look for the coming of Your Beloved Son to take us, Your children, from this earth! Oh Lord God Almighty, please hear me! I am in desperate need of You. For Your glory alone and Your Kingdom's sake, please use me as You will.

 

[Hol]

if American Christians were to ask God for His love for the lost around them?

There's a Christian outreach that sends you an email with a prayer request and rotating list of five homeowners near you. It's called Bless Every Home.

I've noticed results with my neighbors and changes in my attitude towards them.

 

[mattfivefour]

There's a Christian outreach that sends you an email with a prayer request and rotating list of five homeowners near you. It's called Bless Every Home.

I've noticed results with my neighbors and changes in my attitude towards them.

Thank you!

Bless Every Home

app.blesseveryhome.com

“The #1 Tool to Love Your Neighbor as Yourself”

 

[Andiamo]

Amen!

I believe this is the result of us Christians having retreated to the safety of our churches with our faith, rather than boldly taking it out into our society without regard for the cost to us in terms of scorn, ridicule, or threats.

Surely this is the result of a Christianity that pays lip service to Christ and lives for self satisfaction; that treats faith in the home as of lesser importance than living life-- job, money, possessions, sports, entertainment; that allows television and popular culture to raise its children; and that holds to the truth of God's Word intellectually, but in practice lives no differently than the world around it.

Luke 6:44 is true: figs are not gathered from thornbushes, nor are grapes picked from a bramble bush. God is not mocked--whatsoever a man or woman sows, that shall they also reap. And America is reaping it's Laodicean crop.

So, should we sit back and wring our hands, bemoaning what is taking place around us? Or should we take up our individual crosses --signifying we are no longer our own, that our lives belong to Him who bought us with His own blood-- and actually stand up for God and His Word in our neighborhoods, regardless of the consequences? Around the world, men and women are standing up, even in societies where to do so could well result in imprisonment, torture, or death. Compared to that, what would be the cost to us?

I wonder what would happen if American Christians were to ask God for His love for the lost around them? And then begin to share out of that love, regardless of the price they might have to pay? I'm not just preaching to you, my brothers and sisters; I'm preaching to myself! O Lord, please give me Your heart for those who do not know You in these final days! O Lord, lead me into the good works which You prepared for me, according to Your Word in Ephesians 2:10! O Lord, please move upon me so that my life may count for You in some way, so that I do more than merely look for the coming of Your Beloved Son to take us, Your children, from this earth! Oh Lord God Almighty, please hear me! I am in desperate need of You. For Your glory alone and Your Kingdom's sake, please use me as You will.

I read your post to my husband and we feel like you do. We have done many things over the years and all seem so small. But maybe that is all God has called us to do…many small things.

We really think that the problem in the USA is that there are many Christians who are starting to rise up….but are doing so with political motives, and not gospel motives. It’s actually divided us. They want to change America and believe it can be done through political means. Well, that’s what Israel believed about their Messiah and missed the whole point of why He came. So many Christians here are also missing the point, which is our great commission.

Change isn’t going to happen in our schools by yelling at the school board meetings. Change will only happen in our schools through the power of the gospel changing lives. (That video you posted about the ministry who raises up students to evangelize in their own schools was absolutely amazing.)

Then we have so many in church whose entire walk with the Lord is confined to Sunday. Can’t even get them to sign up for a MealTrain to bring a bowl of spaghetti to someone in their own church, let alone get out into the community. They are so wrapped up in their own lives. And in a lot of ways I understand. People get way too busy with kids and family stuff, money is tight and jobs can be overwhelming with the number of hours and energy drain.

So going back to my original thought. It seems, from what I have observed, that so many of those who are willing to serve are the older people. 50’s - 70’s. Because the kids are gone and many are retired and not so consumed by just living life. But they (we) are also the ones with the limited energy and health issues.

It’s frustrating. But then I see Bobby and Sherry at Love A Child in Haiti, who are in their 70’s and are going so hard and strong for the Lord. They are a sign and a wonder, really!

Anyway. Just some thoughts.

 

[Andiamo]

@mattfivefour And another thought which I often have. Well actually it’s an awareness that creeps up on me. I really just don’t care enough. And what a sad thing it is to realize that. I would like to fool myself and believe that I actually truly and passionately care about every living soul around me, as God does, as I am driving and at the store and the bank. But the truth is that if I truly did, as God does, I would feel the same way about them as if they were on a sinking ship. Because we actually are on one. I get to be airlifted off of it. But they don’t.
I should be crying buckets of tears for them all, every day. I should be desperately pointing everyone I see to the Life Boat.
Sometimes I think I’m just really jaded, from not seeing my own family get saved yet. Or hard. Or something.
(There is a famous writing by the man who started the Salvation Army, and he likens the world to drowning men. It’s so painful to read it.)

 

[Ghoti Ichthus]

It's fun to take The Gospel out and walk it around. Today at WF, a muslim woman was staring at my T shirt (unfortunately an older one that's kind of hard to read), and smiled when she was able to read the text of John 14:6 May The Holy Ghost use what she saw and bring her and the young, primary-grade-aged girl with her to saving faith. Both wearing very conservative muslim attire, although no veils.





There are so many receptive people here
More and more unsaved arriving all the time. I really should get out and about more so more people can read The Gospel


The religious police don't like my T shirts. Or that I wear shorts and flip flops with them (NO hijab, etc.)

 

[Andiamo]

It's fun to take The Gospel out and walk it around. Today at WF, a muslim woman was staring at my T shirt (unfortunately an older one that's kind of hard to read), and smiled when she was able to read the text of John 14:6 May The Holy Ghost use what she saw and bring her and the young, primary-grade-aged girl with her to saving faith. Both wearing very conservative muslim attire, although no veils.





There are so many receptive people here
More and more unsaved arriving all the time. I really should get out and about more so more people can read The Gospel


The religious police don't like my T shirts. Or that I wear shorts and flip flops with them (NO hijab, etc.)

My husband and I have been volunteering at a ministry that helps the homeless. I notice that they always remark on whatever my T-shirt looks like or says. Made me think about you and your T-shirts. Going to get some Christian T-shirts that aren’t too hard-hitting preachy but definitely about Jesus.
We tried to witness to a guy who turned out to be demon possessed and he did not like it one bit. Now he doesn’t want to be around us.

 

[Cheeky200386]

I read your post to my husband and we feel like you do. We have done many things over the years and all seem so small. But maybe that is all God has called us to do…many small things.

We really think that the problem in the USA is that there are many Christians who are starting to rise up….but are doing so with political motives, and not gospel motives. It’s actually divided us. They want to change America and believe it can be done through political means. Well, that’s what Israel believed about their Messiah and missed the whole point of why He came. So many Christians here are also missing the point, which is our great commission.

Change isn’t going to happen in our schools by yelling at the school board meetings. Change will only happen in our schools through the power of the gospel changing lives. (That video you posted about the ministry who raises up students to evangelize in their own schools was absolutely amazing.)

Then we have so many in church whose entire walk with the Lord is confined to Sunday. Can’t even get them to sign up for a MealTrain to bring a bowl of spaghetti to someone in their own church, let alone get out into the community. They are so wrapped up in their own lives. And in a lot of ways I understand. People get way too busy with kids and family stuff, money is tight and jobs can be overwhelming with the number of hours and energy drain.

So going back to my original thought. It seems, from what I have observed, that so many of those who are willing to serve are the older people. 50’s - 70’s. Because the kids are gone and many are retired and not so consumed by just living life. But they (we) are also the ones with the limited energy and health issues.

It’s frustrating. But then I see Bobby and Sherry at Love A Child in Haiti, who are in their 70’s and are going so hard and strong for the Lord. They are a sign and a wonder, really!

Anyway. Just some thoughts.

I can sadly admit that is me and the kids. I’m so beyond burnt out trying to survive from when the kids wake up to when Mike gets home and we’re both trying to keep them fed and alive that we both collapse on the bed every night. It is a deliberate effort to remember to read the Bible to my kids every day that I can’t imagine trying to do more.

We make times to go out as a family whether it’s a walk or a drive around the town but we’re usually talking and not focused on who to share the Gospel with. I used to be zealous to hand out Gospel tracts before the kids, at the moment I can’t remember to grab them after service and then when I do, I completely forget to grab them and have them with me. I always feel like I’m struggling to keep my head above water with the kids, my practice, and managing my home that I don’t get how others do it. I can’t imagine if I worked full time out of the home.

Most days, I’m at home with the kids because it’s easier and it allows me to stay on top of cleaning and cooking. I know I’m not doing enough for the Lord and am trying to build up my prayer life again.

I also struggle with the clients that I see who are into deceptions like female pastors, new age nonsense, or who are unbelievers (I have a handful like that). I have been confrontational in the past and have been met with threats to my license and practice. The unbelievers do not seem open to anything Christian and it just always seems like a random time to just say Hey so do you know Jesus died for you? Idk I guess I could just start there with each one of them next time but it seems super random and that’s where I admit, I am not as bold as I would like to be.

It’s embarrassing to admit that I just also don’t care enough to go through the stress of dealing with the conflict it will surely entail because I already feel overwhelmed with the stress of being a mom to two little ones. It’s like I feel like I can’t handle anymore stress (super lame reason admitting in public). I am so desperate to close my practice and just solely focus on being a stay at home mom but Mike can’t support us financially without my help. Sadly, I am prioritizing myself by not pushing back as much as I could with certain clients.

This is something I’ve been feeling tons of conviction about lately especially with specific clients. I just can’t figure out the right moment to introduce Faith and Christ. Two clients are aggressively pro-LGBT which I am just learning as of the past couple of weeks. Those conversations would be extremely interesting to say the least. I’ll have to pray about them and future visits with them.

 

[Andiamo]

I can sadly admit that is me and the kids. I’m so beyond burnt out trying to survive from when the kids wake up to when Mike gets home and we’re both trying to keep them fed and alive that we both collapse on the bed every night. It is a deliberate effort to remember to read the Bible to my kids every day that I can’t imagine trying to do more.

We make times to go out as a family whether it’s a walk or a drive around the town but we’re usually talking and not focused on who to share the Gospel with. I used to be zealous to hand out Gospel tracts before the kids, at the moment I can’t remember to grab them after service and then when I do, I completely forget to grab them and have them with me. I always feel like I’m struggling to keep my head above water with the kids, my practice, and managing my home that I don’t get how others do it. I can’t imagine if I worked full time out of the home.

Most days, I’m at home with the kids because it’s easier and it allows me to stay on top of cleaning and cooking. I know I’m not doing enough for the Lord and am trying to build up my prayer life again.

I also struggle with the clients that I see who are into deceptions like female pastors, new age nonsense, or who are unbelievers (I have a handful like that). I have been confrontational in the past and have been met with threats to my license and practice. The unbelievers do not seem open to anything Christian and it just always seems like a random time to just say Hey so do you know Jesus died for you? Idk I guess I could just start there with each one of them next time but it seems super random and that’s where I admit, I am not as bold as I would like to be.

It’s embarrassing to admit that I just also don’t care enough to go through the stress of dealing with the conflict it will surely entail because I already feel overwhelmed with the stress of being a mom to two little ones. It’s like I feel like I can’t handle anymore stress (super lame reason admitting in public). I am so desperate to close my practice and just solely focus on being a stay at home mom but Mike can’t support us financially without my help. Sadly, I am prioritizing myself by not pushing back as much as I could with certain clients.

This is something I’ve been feeling tons of conviction about lately especially with specific clients. I just can’t figure out the right moment to introduce Faith and Christ. Two clients are aggressively pro-LGBT which I am just learning as of the past couple of weeks. Those conversations would be extremely interesting to say the least. I’ll have to pray about them and future visits with them.

You are in a season of life that is tough on everyone and those who act like it isn’t are just pretending! I totally understand and what we do doesn’t have to be about approaching people and laying out the whole gospel. It can be as simple as being kind to a cashier and saying “have a great day, Jesus loves you” right when you take your receipt. I totally agree with you about the randomness and it stops me too. I don’t share the gospel with strangers unless I talk to them a few minutes and hear the person say something that gives me an opening. Otherwise like you said it feels so strange to just bring it up out of the blue. I do leave tracts all around the stores but honestly I feel like it’s a cop-out. The most I ever witnessed was when I worked at a nursing home and it was so easy for me because so many of the folks had dementia and I actually did get to harvest a few souls which was absolutely thrilling. But I had to keep it on the down low so I wouldn’t get fired. Strict “no discussion of religion or politics” there. My coworkers knew I am a Christian but I never shared the gospel with any of them because I never heard them say something that was an “opening” and also didn’t want to get in trouble. Ugh!!!

 

[Andiamo]

I can sadly admit that is me and the kids. I’m so beyond burnt out trying to survive from when the kids wake up to when Mike gets home and we’re both trying to keep them fed and alive that we both collapse on the bed every night. It is a deliberate effort to remember to read the Bible to my kids every day that I can’t imagine trying to do more.

We make times to go out as a family whether it’s a walk or a drive around the town but we’re usually talking and not focused on who to share the Gospel with. I used to be zealous to hand out Gospel tracts before the kids, at the moment I can’t remember to grab them after service and then when I do, I completely forget to grab them and have them with me. I always feel like I’m struggling to keep my head above water with the kids, my practice, and managing my home that I don’t get how others do it. I can’t imagine if I worked full time out of the home.

Most days, I’m at home with the kids because it’s easier and it allows me to stay on top of cleaning and cooking. I know I’m not doing enough for the Lord and am trying to build up my prayer life again.

I also struggle with the clients that I see who are into deceptions like female pastors, new age nonsense, or who are unbelievers (I have a handful like that). I have been confrontational in the past and have been met with threats to my license and practice. The unbelievers do not seem open to anything Christian and it just always seems like a random time to just say Hey so do you know Jesus died for you? Idk I guess I could just start there with each one of them next time but it seems super random and that’s where I admit, I am not as bold as I would like to be.

It’s embarrassing to admit that I just also don’t care enough to go through the stress of dealing with the conflict it will surely entail because I already feel overwhelmed with the stress of being a mom to two little ones. It’s like I feel like I can’t handle anymore stress (super lame reason admitting in public). I am so desperate to close my practice and just solely focus on being a stay at home mom but Mike can’t support us financially without my help. Sadly, I am prioritizing myself by not pushing back as much as I could with certain clients.

This is something I’ve been feeling tons of conviction about lately especially with specific clients. I just can’t figure out the right moment to introduce Faith and Christ. Two clients are aggressively pro-LGBT which I am just learning as of the past couple of weeks. Those conversations would be extremely interesting to say the least. I’ll have to pray about them and future visits with them.

And hey…your Mom and your husband got saved because of your testimony and your witness that is Huuuuggge