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RFK Jr. already has big plans for FDA, CDC under Trump

In a post-election interview on Wednesday, Robert F. Kennedy Jr. revealed some of his plans for a major overhaul of the country’s key health agencies.

An MSNBC reporter asked RFK Jr. whether he will terminate “the top level federal service workers that are currently at" the Food and Drug Administration and Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

“In some categories,” Kennedy responded. “There are entire departments, like the nutrition departments at FDA, that have to go.”

He said workers in certain departments, including nutrition, are “not doing their job” or “protecting our kids.”

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Yeah I am sure. This is something I am adamant about. I know others don't see the nearness of the Rapture as I do and some see it nearer every high holy day that comes. What I do see is that we are so close to the end that at any moment of any day more now than ever before we could hear the sound of the trumpet and the shout. You mentioned birth pangs in a previous post. I take that particular analogy very much to heart. Throughout history once a woman is pregnant one of two things happens in roughly 9 months a baby is born or still born or like in this time sadly killed in the womb. A few have gone longer than 9 months but they are rare. That being said 1948 is likely what we could call the conception of the birth in question. Like any pregnancy from the point of conception till the first missed period a woman doesn't even know if she is possibly pregnant. Then it is a short while till morning sickness starts and goes away. After that is the long months leading up to her showing and more till she is feeling very uncomfortable till finally the water breaks and birth is just hours away.

Matching that to the longer time frame of the generation which I see some now put that only in the Tribulation period but miss where Jesus said in Math 24:8 All these are the beginning of sorrows. The sorrows he is referring to here are those of the birth suffering a woman goes through starting at labor. Granted he is talking to his Jewish disciples at that time and goes into things of the Tribulation because unsaved Jew will be here for that it still does not mean that the signs coming like a pregnancy growing closer together and more intense don't start at the time of labor. They start before that but not as strong. Hence we are seeing the signs coming more frequently now and with each new one more intensely. So how close are we? If we the generation Jesus speaks of is the one that start when Isreal is rebirthed as a nation which a large number of Bible scholars agree on then we have from 1948 a mere 40, 70-75, or 120 if we stretch the time given to man. We are past the 40 year generation mark even if we put the start at 1967 and the Six Day war that got Israel in possession of Jerusalem once again. 1988 would have been 40 for the first possible date and 2007 for the 1967 year start. So it is evident that 40 was not what was meant by a generation. Also 120 is not a good candidate as most people never live that long even in Jesus' time. So that gives us more likely the 70-75 time of a generation give or take. If we used the 1948 then we are looking at 2018-2023 and since we have already made it to 2024 then we are in the little bit of give and take. Since both pregnancies and generations don't have exact prescribed time limits it is fairly safe to think we are at some point just before the water breaks and labor starts.

So it would make logical sense that based on all that we are likely with in a year or less of first the Rapture and second the start of the Tribulation with the revealing of the son of perdition. As such I believe the church can not afford now to be relaxed at any time for any reason. Our enemy is cunning, never tires, and always looking for any opening to attack. I also see by the more relaxed nature of conversations that many even if they don't admit are thinking ok we have another 4 years before we have to worry about anything. I am truly concerned that the ball may get dropped and people will be lulled back to sleep, no bueno on that score, not the time.

So no I am not stirring the pot for funs and giggles. I am earnestly hoping to keep people awake because the best time for the enemy to attack is when we aren't looking. It could be geopolitical, it could be some failure of modern technology, or some natural disaster but it is a time ripe for some form of sudden destruction small as it would be now pointing to the same that will be in Tribulation.
I've been expecting the rapture for many many years now. I don't want to pigeon-hole God. I believe that we can know the season, but not the timing. Date-setting is never a good idea, and I have seen dates that have been set on the dates you have proposed (and been spectacularly wrong) and then people get discouraged. Personally, I do think these dates are relevant and I wouldn't be surprised if the feasts are involved (although it would be a great Christmas present to be home at last! Or today! Today would be fabulous!)

We can not be relaxed about God's work. We never should have been relaxed about God's work to begin with. We are told to be vigilant always, because His return is soon. We know that what needs to happen for the rapture, is the fullness of the gentiles to be complete. The last of the gentiles that is going to be saved before the tribulation. That's the condition. And the harder we work, the more likely that is to happen.

I am thrilled that Donald Trump was elected. It was, straight up, a direct answer to prayer to many in the church who prayed and fasted for this result. Four years of puppet Harris would have resulted in the direct downfall of the USA and played right into the globalists' hands, and the very unsubtle persecution of Christians all over the world, including the west. Donald Trump is not our messiah, but I think that he will be a good leader. I believe that he truly wants America to prosper and that he wants peace in the Middle East (and the rest of the world) and he understands that that is obtained by being stronger than your enemies. I have said before, though, that I don't believe he is saved.

What I am seeing with this election:

1) Both sides are abundantly clear. Even the unsaved (except for the completely delusional who loved not the truth) can see the difference between godly Christian values and those of the world. Anyone paying attention will be without excuse.

2) We've been given a bit of a stay in the fall of the USA. This is important for people around the world, and especially Christians, because stability will help them reach more people. The vacuum of power when the US falls will result in war. Period.

3) While it's true that Trump won the popular vote and the electoral college, if you look at the margins in a lot of these elections, it's by 3% or less in a lot of cases. That's a lot of people voting for straight up evil even if they failed this time around.

The Bible says that destruction will come upon the world suddenly. A Trump presidency, with the legislative branch, and the judicial branch, working together will result in the kind of life that people are used to. The calm before the storm. This country is on a knife's edge. If Trump manages to do even a part of what he promised, we may well be quite comfortable. Israel will also be at peace. These are the conditions that need to be in place before the trib. That large contingent rooting and voting for evil is still there. The globalists won't stop working towards their goal. A shift in the balance of power will happen at the rapture, even if it's by the smallest of margins, and it will tilt in that side's favor. The lawless will be overjoyed at taking back the reins, and God is going to give them exactly what they want. I believe that they will be working to start WW3, so that Trump is too busy putting out fires to completely clean up the swamp.

God delayed Trump's re-election by four years. He preserved his life from multiple assassination attempts. I believe that Trump is a major chess piece in the end times scenario, whether he ends up saved and coming up with the rest of the church or serving (or becoming) the antiChrist (I personally don't think he will, but I don't completely discount it, either) and his being raised up to power at this time specifically shows the nearness of the coming tribulation (and of course the rapture before it.)

Perhaps what you are seeing in this board is not so much a lack of excitement for the rapture, but more a resistance to date-set. We don't know when the rapture is. We just don't. And I don't want to hurt our witness on this forum with guests who read our comments, and assume we are a bunch of crackpots who said it will happen within x amount of time and then it doesn't, even if I personally think that we really aren't long for this world.

I am also happy that Trump got elected, because it was an answer to prayer and the direct implications on the furtherance of the gospel are wonderful. It in no way affects my view of the timing of the rapture. I know you're new and a lot of us already have this kind of understanding amongst us that you wouldn't necessarily know about, coming from what sounds like, a forum of more diverse group of believers with less of a common agreement about understanding the end-time prophecies.

It's hard to convey tone on the internet, and I am concerned that the enemy is sowing division amongst believers who really do share a common heart for our Blessed Hope. I pray for the unity and understanding of CCF, and truly hope that when disagreements occur, we continue to respect and love one another.
 
If you have a link to that list of promised fulfilled I would love to see it.
The list is from the middle of his previous term.
 
I've been expecting the rapture for many many years now. I don't want to pigeon-hole God. I believe that we can know the season, but not the timing. Date-setting is never a good idea, and I have seen dates that have been set on the dates you have proposed (and been spectacularly wrong) and then people get discouraged. Personally, I do think these dates are relevant and I wouldn't be surprised if the feasts are involved (although it would be a great Christmas present to be home at last! Or today! Today would be fabulous!)

We can not be relaxed about God's work. We never should have been relaxed about God's work to begin with. We are told to be vigilant always, because His return is soon. We know that what needs to happen for the rapture, is the fullness of the gentiles to be complete. The last of the gentiles that is going to be saved before the tribulation. That's the condition. And the harder we work, the more likely that is to happen.

I am thrilled that Donald Trump was elected. It was, straight up, a direct answer to prayer to many in the church who prayed and fasted for this result. Four years of puppet Harris would have resulted in the direct downfall of the USA and played right into the globalists' hands, and the very unsubtle persecution of Christians all over the world, including the west. Donald Trump is not our messiah, but I think that he will be a good leader. I believe that he truly wants America to prosper and that he wants peace in the Middle East (and the rest of the world) and he understands that that is obtained by being stronger than your enemies. I have said before, though, that I don't believe he is saved.

What I am seeing with this election:

1) Both sides are abundantly clear. Even the unsaved (except for the completely delusional who loved not the truth) can see the difference between godly Christian values and those of the world. Anyone paying attention will be without excuse.

2) We've been given a bit of a stay in the fall of the USA. This is important for people around the world, and especially Christians, because stability will help them reach more people. The vacuum of power when the US falls will result in war. Period.

3) While it's true that Trump won the popular vote and the electoral college, if you look at the margins in a lot of these elections, it's by 3% or less in a lot of cases. That's a lot of people voting for straight up evil even if they failed this time around.

The Bible says that destruction will come upon the world suddenly. A Trump presidency, with the legislative branch, and the judicial branch, working together will result in the kind of life that people are used to. The calm before the storm. This country is on a knife's edge. If Trump manages to do even a part of what he promised, we may well be quite comfortable. Israel will also be at peace. These are the conditions that need to be in place before the trib. That large contingent rooting and voting for evil is still there. The globalists won't stop working towards their goal. A shift in the balance of power will happen at the rapture, even if it's by the smallest of margins, and it will tilt in that side's favor. The lawless will be overjoyed at taking back the reins, and God is going to give them exactly what they want. I believe that they will be working to start WW3, so that Trump is too busy putting out fires to completely clean up the swamp.

God delayed Trump's re-election by four years. He preserved his life from multiple assassination attempts. I believe that Trump is a major chess piece in the end times scenario, whether he ends up saved and coming up with the rest of the church or serving (or becoming) the antiChrist (I personally don't think he will, but I don't completely discount it, either) and his being raised up to power at this time specifically shows the nearness of the coming tribulation (and of course the rapture before it.)

Perhaps what you are seeing in this board is not so much a lack of excitement for the rapture, but more a resistance to date-set. We don't know when the rapture is. We just don't. And I don't want to hurt our witness on this forum with guests who read our comments, and assume we are a bunch of crackpots who said it will happen within x amount of time and then it doesn't, even if I personally think that we really aren't long for this world.

I am also happy that Trump got elected, because it was an answer to prayer and the direct implications on the furtherance of the gospel are wonderful. It in no way affects my view of the timing of the rapture. I know you're new and a lot of us already have this kind of understanding amongst us that you wouldn't necessarily know about, coming from what sounds like, a forum of more diverse group of believers with less of a common agreement about understanding the end-time prophecies.

It's hard to convey tone on the internet, and I am concerned that the enemy is sowing division amongst believers who really do share a common heart for our Blessed Hope. I pray for the unity and understanding of CCF, and truly hope that when disagreements occur, we continue to respect and love one another.
Well said, sister!
 
Yeah it is good but a fine line to walk for many people. They often slip from vigilant to pessimistic all to easily and never notice they have.
I'm not sure of the other Christian boards with which you have been, or are still, involved. But, I think you'll find our members here, most of whom are mature in the faith, have little difficulty walking that line
So yeah it is good to be optimistic but equally as good to be alert and vigilant always.
I agree one hundred percent. And again I think you'll find that the majority members here are able to do that. And for those who aren't? Well, that's why we're here as leaders-- to encourage people and help them grow in their faith. And, to be honest, it's not just the leadership here: most of the members here do that for one another. We are truly very much like a church here, with true koinonia fellowship. We also challenge each other as we each prayerfully work at grasping a correct understanding of Scripture. And I think your challenging way of viewing things works to that end. Iron sharpens iron. The trick for believers is to challenge each other with Scripture while still maintaining a sweet fellowship. And that IS a very fine line to walk.
 
The list is from the middle of his previous term.
Thank you for the link.
 
I'm not sure of the other Christian boards with which you have been, or are still, involved. But, I think you'll find our members here, most of whom are mature in the faith, have little difficulty walking that line
@Shinobi I was doing some errands today and thought of some slight struggles you may have with us at CCF.

You're well liked here, but one detail that I pray will help you is that dozens of us have gone through the 2016 election of Trump. We hashed out many of the same pros and cons back then. I was on the side of voting for Trump was voting against Hillary. Our dear brother @pixelpusher made a very important point that we need a border wall. For me, living in the Pacific NW I didn't get it. After Trump accomplished important things I began to favor him more, but this past 3+years of a continued O'Biden admin I began to see how naive I had been -- we do need a border wall.

Even with our past struggles with voting for Trump I think many of us have collectively come to grips with how God will place who He wants into the WH, and He listens to our prayers.

Anyhow, I do agree that Christians would be in error to place our hopes in a Trump admin, and as mattfivefour stated so well, we don't. We do love when God answers our prayers and rejoice to see those results.

That said, I do see two problematic groups of Christians as they develop views of our next President, Donald Trump. First & worst are those who are called Christian Nationalists. They are often Reformed or Dominionists. They think this is a signal that God wants them to take over the US for God, even using violence if it would help. The second group are some evangelicals who I agree with in many things, but when they get into some conspiracy theories (and how they love to spin their wheels there), they tend to devolve into suspicions about Trump voting Christians. They seem very overly pious to me, with no tolerance for anyone grateful that God answered prayers that we had prayers answered in giving us a President who supports many of our values. They tend to virtue signal that they did not vote for Trump or Harris. (I hate to see Christians exercise 'high piety' against brothers and sisters.)
 
I am going to hold reservation on this idea because for now we are still under the old regime. Second based on the last time Trump was in office and the promises he made to get into office that were never fulfilled I have to ask is it really a reprieve or does it just again look like one because that is what everyone is hoping for?

I have to ask where in Revelation does it every show that the Laodicean church actually repented. The warning was put there but it never says if they did repent or not. I would venture to say given later prophecy of what is to come and the fact that the anti Christ remains till Jesus comes, at best a few in that church may have awakened and repented but as to the majority probably not.

I hate to say this but "all hell" started to break loose in May of 1948. Once that count down clock started there is no delaying the inevitable other wise that makes God a liar and He is not a liar. Yeah I get it people want to have hope in something and more often than not is something they can see and touch. But is that how faith works? If I can see and touch something it is easy to believe it is and what it does. On the other hand having faith in the savior that none of us have see is real faith. That is where I real hope lies yet many are getting all giddy because their guy won the office and why? Because they are thinking things will change but will they truly change? Only time will tell but historically speaking they never really have in the past for any serious length of time.
I am giddy that Trump won because it means more time to share the Gospel without having a president that blatantly hates Christians. I see Trump as friendly towards Christians. I say this as someone who doubts his salvation and would have preferred to have had a Bible Believing Man of Faith running for office. We know that is probably not going to happen in this country.

In no realm of reality do I put hope in Trump or see him as a savior. He is but a pause on the ever increasing hostility towards my Faith. Harris winning would have greatly ramped that up.
 
Many are even if not knowingly. If people are stating better days are ahead because Trump won the election then that is the challenge. If people are letting their guards down because they believe things will get better then that is challenging the point. You can try and walk all around this saying this isn't so or that is so or what ever. The point is there are a lot of people out there and many of them Christians all giddy because Trump won. That is undeniable in the way people are talking about the election. It is obvious in their tones of hope that things will get better. Given human nature being what it is that is when people let their guard down and that is when the enemy attacks at such weakened moments. It is like the night watch saying well it has been clear for the last 2 hours so probably nothing will happen in the next 2 so it is ok to get a bit of a nap. Scripture is full of warnings not to take that nap but it shows in how people are reacting to the election.

Luke 6:45 A good man brings good things out of the good stored up in his heart, and an evil man brings evil things out of the evil stored up in his heart. For the mouth speaks what the heart is full of.

What I am hearing people say is what according to scripture says is in their heart. In their heart they see a time to relax and not remain sober and alert. It is starting to show up more and more. I fully expect this coming Sunday a number of sermons we may see online will sing the praises of Trump winning the office like he is going to make America great again. He didn't the last time so why expect it this time?

So I get that I disturbed you peace by pointing out that now is not the time to revel in some election which means little in the grander scheme of prophecy. I hope you understand I am not attacking people. I am only reminding everyone including myself to remain vigilant even now when things look like they may get a little better. Ultimately they will flush right down the toilet and we will be worse off than we were in the last 4 years. So attack me if you wish but I have said my piece and grow weary of trying to explain this concept that we are still in the lead up to the Rapture and the Tribulation and nothing not even this election will slow that down. It may infact actually speed it up depending on what happens after Trump takes office. He may be a key point to speed things along. We simply do not know how God is working this all out.
Who specifically are you saying is thinking things are going to get better? Making vague assumptions doesn’t help here when you make such claims against members of this board.

I don’t see anyone putting their hope in Trump or thinking everything will get better now. Not on this board at least.

I like what @Andy C said a few posts up. It may very well be that Trump will bring us closer to the start of the Tribulation.
 
Who specifically are you saying is thinking things are going to get better? Making vague assumptions doesn’t help here when you make such claims against members of this board.

I don’t see anyone putting their hope in Trump or thinking everything will get better now. Not on this board at least.

I like what @Andy C said a few posts up. It may very well be that Trump will bring us closer to the start of the Tribulation.
I am talking in generalizations of many calling themselves Christians but are heavy into the political side of things like we are going back to the Leave it to Beaver days. I am not saying anyone here in particular and have since founds out I misunderstood what someone else posted. It was a goof on my part for not taking the time to read more carefully. Anyway it is now a moot point now that I know I misread what was written.

Maybe this will clear things up. I was in a rush, I misread, and later came back without re-reading and replied based on what I thought I had read. I was fully in the wrong for it. For that I apologize and I will endeavor to be be more careful in the future.
 
Maybe this will clear things up. I was in a rush, I misread, and later came back without re-reading and replied based on what I thought I had read. I was fully in the wrong for it. For that I apologize and I will endeavor to be be more careful in the future.
I have done the same more times than I can count. Also, on a good day my memory is poor, and on a bad day, well, its forgettable.

What I like about your posts, especially as a newer member, you’re not afraid to post what you believe, even if you think it might differ with many.

Iron sharpens iron, even a dull old blade like me.
 
I am giddy that Trump won because it means more time to share the Gospel without having a president that blatantly hates Christians. I see Trump as friendly towards Christians. I say this as someone who doubts his salvation and would have preferred to have had a Bible Believing Man of Faith running for office. We know that is probably not going to happen in this country.
I agree that I would prefer a Bible believing man of faith as well. And you are probably very right it will never happen from here on out but, God we never know what He might do as anything is possible with him. If Trump is not a saved Christian now who knows he might become one while he is in office. Only God knows that. We can pray for it though. Nothing wrong with asking.

I wish I was a giddy as you that it may be easier to spread the Gospel but for me I see way to much of the bad sides of society and what a lot of people do to each other and as such I know there are still dangerous mission fields in our own country still. A person I know and met once briefly works in such mission fields and in some really bad places and does a lot of dangerous rescues and what I see pales in comparison to what he lives. Evil is strong in the world even if we don't see it often.

I will provide a link to his website but, want to say he has done recovery of children in war torn Iraq and Syria working with ex Special Forces types as well as in the US with groups that fight against trafficking. He is the nicest man but the hardest man I have ever met. I would never want to cross him but will gladly have him at my back. His name is Victor Marx. You can read his story on his site. All Things Possible, Victor Marx, Haitian Orphans
 
3) While it's true that Trump won the popular vote and the electoral college, if you look at the margins in a lot of these elections, it's by 3% or less in a lot of cases. That's a lot of people voting for straight up evil even if they failed this time around.

While I'm very happy that Trump won, harris still got an incredible amount of votes. Evil is definitely going to have it's moment, and I suspect that that moment is near.
 
I have done the same more times than I can count. Also, on a good day my memory is poor, and on a bad day, well, its forgettable.

What I like about your posts, especially as a newer member, you’re not afraid to post what you believe, even if you think it might differ with many.

Iron sharpens iron, even a dull old blade like me.
I have seen that twice now, iron sharpens iron. I understand what it means but these days I am thinking ehhhhh more like aluminum in my case.
 
That said, I do see two problematic groups of Christians as they develop views of our next President, Donald Trump. First & worst are those who are called Christian Nationalists. They are often Reformed or Dominionists. They think this is a signal that God wants them to take over the US for God, even using violence if it would help. The second group are some evangelicals who I agree with in many things, but when they get into some conspiracy theories (and how they love to spin their wheels there), they tend to devolve into suspicions about Trump voting Christians. They seem very overly pious to me, with no tolerance for anyone grateful that God answered prayers that we had prayers answered in giving us a President who supports many of our values. They tend to virtue signal that they did not vote for Trump or Harris. (I hate to see Christians exercise 'high piety' against brothers and sisters.)
You will get no grief from me here. I am well familiar with Christian Nationalist which I know by the NAR movement mostly and those are most of who I am referring to and should have said so. Again sorry for not taking time to think more before posting. I can also agree about those in the strong Evangelicals movement as well. While Evangelicals are definitely more on Bible believing there sub sets like hard core Calvinist who tend to be if you don't believe what they believe you were never saved in the first place because you don't agree with their baseline doctrines.

I also took and have always been of the mind which NAR and Christian nationalist seem to hate and that is what ever a person decides to do at election time is their decision. We are not obligated by law to vote but we are by law afforded the opportunity to vote. Our right to vote has a back side which is our right not to vote. I don't really care what people do or who they vote for. I do my thing when it comes to election time and I am done. If asked who I voted for I just say, it is none of their business. Now that you got me thinking a little more and I have settled down for the day it is the NAR and Christian Nationalist types I was referring to even though I could not put a name to it earlier. Sorry my bad. All I can say is I don't pin hopes on political figures and have not for a good long time probably since the Nixon years. So while I thought I saw a leaning to yeah Trump it is all gonna be peachy, I had misread and misunderstood what I read. I gotta a better feel now for members now after being shown I was wrong.
 
While considering all that has been said in this thread concerning the upcoming Trump presidency, I found this in a social media feed:

To think that God ordained a filthy minded, adulterous, wealthy man,
with evil in his heart to preside over a nation,
has me questioning my self-righteous understanding.

But He did.

And that sinful man, by grace
gave us the Psalms!
 
Andy Woods made a reasonable statement in his Prophecy Update from today:

Decay has been delayed for a season which means we now have a limited
period of time to educate our country our population about what our country is
about-- to do the work of evangelism and to do the work of fulfilling the commission.
so this is a tremendous gift that God has given us ---now I don't want to overstate the case
because I've heard a lot of people say well the days of the Democratic party are over because they were defeated so soundly.
I'm not going to go down that road at all ---the Democratic party and its Marxist and socialist policies isn't going
anywhere --- had suffered a setback, a roadblock, but it's certainly not a
U-turn because the concepts involved with Marxism are ultimately
demonic demons, who I think are Fallen Angels, Do Not Die--- Luke 20:
 
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