Liberation Day 2 April 2025 (Tariffs)

[TCC]

France Warns EU Could Take ‘Extremely Aggressive’ Actions in Response to Trump Tariffs​

France’s trade minister said the European Union’s response to U.S. President Donald Trump’s tariffs could be “extremely aggressive” amid increasingly heated rhetoric from Paris.

Speaking ahead of crunch talks in Luxembourg, French Minister of Foreign Trade Laurent Saint-Martin said that Brussels must consider all options in the trade dispute with the United States.

“We must not exclude any option, on goods, on (American) services and open the European toolbox, which is very complete, which can also be extremely aggressive in return,” the minister said per Le Figaro.

Saint-Martin pointed to “anti-coercion” measures within the EU code, which he said could freeze access to European public markets or even prevent U.S. companies from investing in the trading bloc.

France: EU Could Take 'Extremely Aggressive' Actions over Trump Tariffs

France's trade minister said the EU's response to Trump tariffs could be "extremely aggressive" amid increasingly heated rhetoric from Paris.

www.breitbart.com

Just my opinion, but I think Europe has a tremendous amount to lose, and nothing to gain by not agreeing to trade with the US that is on a parr, as well as footing the bill for Europe's defense. On the flip side of the coin, The US has little to lose should Europe play hard ball. If Europe doesn't cut some fair trade deals with the USA, and let's say NATO implodes... Europe won't be able to afford to defend itself.

When the dust settles, the USA may have massively increased trade with the countries that played fairly with the US while those that hold out the longest may never return to the level of exports to the USA that was previously enjoyed. Europe stands to lose a lot. China could become impoverished as manufacturing finds homes outside of China and exports that used to be China's wealth generator disperse into the hands of other countries. Japan is another country that could suffer greatly. If you go shopping in Japan you see just about everything sold there was made there. Japan will have to open its markets or it will diminish significantly. Toyota and Honda should survive since they manufacture a lot in the USA...

The USA markets affect the entire world in a big way. The only other individual country that has affected markets outside of its own is China, and that only recently, but not near to the extent that the USA affects the entire world.

Interesting that Elon recently used the EU as an example of a trading block he would like to see a 0% tariff alliance both ways with America.

 

[Hol]

The leader of China is being exceptionally foolish. China became an economic powerhouse (in theory) because of the USA markets and China can just as easily return to being a poor and impoverished nation with very little assets because they're run by a strong man who is used to calling the shots and having everyone bow to him. China has been a bully all over the world, tricking a lot of third world countries out of their natural resources and using Chinese and not local labor to take possession of those natural resources. Whatever China loses in the USA market, it will likely never get back.

As these tariffs give everyone some grief and a few hopes for more blue collar workers in the US, it seems that the biggest effect will land on the paper tiger China.

China's growth via the Wall Street shell game is about to crumble. Here's a very interesting perspective on how wrong anyone who invests in stocks from China has been. You never actually 'own' anything using a Chinese investment. Imagine buying a condo in Cuba, you are fooling yourself.

Check this out: The Biggest Financial Scandal in History—And You May Be Part of It: Roger Robinson

I don't want to credit the current US admin with 4D chess, but maybe God has used them and done the most effective thing to curtail the global ambitions of the biggest US enemy China by tariffs on their phony economy (built by their slaves and hapless people who own nothing).

 

[Margery]

China has had serious financial issues before Covid even, and that Evergrande collapse in 2021 that destroyed their real estate market just after the Covid years was classic Communist meddling in what ought to have remained a free market. The drop in population combined with drop in demand for Chinese goods destroyed their internal economy which was already weakened by the idiocy of central planning, and it's been slowly working it's way thru their system.

That said from a prophecy point of view I've often wondered why China isn't part of things more.

It's like America- the States show up possibly as one of the cubs of Tarshish. Whether Tarshish is Britain or Spain, the USA is from both so take your pick. America isn't Tarshish because she wasn't a tin mine known to Israel's prophets then or at any point in history while tin mines were active in Britain and Spain during the time of Solomon, long before Ezek wrote. The USA is a daughter of Britain, and to a smaller degree Spain, so I think she's one of the cubs of Tarshish in Ezek 38.

The kings of the east in Revelation are plural, when they show up near the end of the Tribulation (Rev 16) as the angel dries up the Euphrates so they can march to surround Jerusalem and be eliminated by King Jesus. That doesn't mean China, that means kings plural of the East- a compass direction that includes a lot of different countries on the Eurasian continent. It is the 6th bowl or vial judgment right near the end of the Tribulation in Rev 16.

As for that 200 million man army in Rev 9 at the 6th Trumpet judgment that is often confused with the kings of the east, it's a different judgment, a different point in time in the Tribulation and that 200 million man army appears to be demonic, and related to the 4 evil angels from below the Euphrates.

What I really wonder about is why China doesn't appear in Gog Magog (Ezek 38). Because if that is in the very near future it would make sense- they should support Russia and Iran and Turkey all of whom they are close to in the SCO (Shanghai Cooperation Organization- NATO for nasties) AND the anti American BRICS organization.

Except the closest to China we get is Hal Lindsay's often repeated idea that because China could field a 200 million man army, that the 6th Trumpet must be them, and then again at the 6th Bowl. And looking at the text I don't see that in there. Maybe the 6th Bowl as part of the kings of the east. BUT not the 6th Trumpet 200 million man army.

SO as a result I've privately thought that something happens to take China out. Covid actually hit them harder than they admit. I've seen recent Chinese critics pointing out that they think many more died than were accounted for, and that isn't helping their economy.

I think they are invested in looking and sounding bigger than they are. I was listening to Gordon Chang on the subject - YouTube recently talking about the economic effect on China and it's going to devastate them.

Yes Gordon has said this for years, but due to the action of God restraining things, he may still be quite right. I remember people scoffing that Russia was imploding during the Reagan years. Till it did. My inlaws knew what was happening. Sometimes these things are delayed by God's timing so that they happen at the right time in order for prophetic reasons.

This is all the more reason for them to act now and try to retake Taiwan as a matter of pride, but for them it's a race between their population implosion and their economic implosion.

I've thought maybe they implode completely during a regional war that they might undertake- but whatever it is, China isn't in prophecy.

Neither is the USA. That I think is due to the Rapture combined with growing isolationist policies- staying away from being the world's policemen, or the worlds bankers. Some theories have USA showing up as Babylon, but I find that a very remote possibility. The USA isn't in scripture. Not in prophecy.

But this current situation seems to play right into that and it's interesting to watch. Maybe we are seeing prophetic stage setting at work. China will bark loudly till their last gasp. Something finishes them off before Gog Magog. All the rest of the players in the SCO look like Gog Magog to me. Except China.

 

[Ghoti Ichthus]

China has had serious financial issues before Covid even, and that Evergrande collapse in 2021 that destroyed their real estate market just after the Covid years was classic Communist meddling in what ought to have remained a free market. The drop in population combined with drop in demand for Chinese goods destroyed their internal economy which was already weakened by the idiocy of central planning, and it's been slowly working it's way thru their system.

That said from a prophecy point of view I've often wondered why China isn't part of things more.

It's like America- the States show up possibly as one of the cubs of Tarshish. Whether Tarshish is Britain or Spain, the USA is from both so take your pick. America isn't Tarshish because she wasn't a tin mine known to Israel's prophets then or at any point in history while tin mines were active in Britain and Spain during the time of Solomon, long before Ezek wrote. The USA is a daughter of Britain, and to a smaller degree Spain, so I think she's one of the cubs of Tarshish in Ezek 38.

The kings of the east in Revelation are plural, when they show up near the end of the Tribulation (Rev 16) as the angel dries up the Euphrates so they can march to surround Jerusalem and be eliminated by King Jesus. That doesn't mean China, that means kings plural of the East- a compass direction that includes a lot of different countries on the Eurasian continent. It is the 6th bowl or vial judgment right near the end of the Tribulation in Rev 16.

As for that 200 million man army in Rev 9 at the 6th Trumpet judgment that is often confused with the kings of the east, it's a different judgment, a different point in time in the Tribulation and that 200 million man army appears to be demonic, and related to the 4 evil angels from below the Euphrates.

What I really wonder about is why China doesn't appear in Gog Magog (Ezek 38). Because if that is in the very near future it would make sense- they should support Russia and Iran and Turkey all of whom they are close to in the SCO (Shanghai Cooperation Organization- NATO for nasties) AND the anti American BRICS organization.

Except the closest to China we get is Hal Lindsay's often repeated idea that because China could field a 200 million man army, that the 6th Trumpet must be them, and then again at the 6th Bowl. And looking at the text I don't see that in there. Maybe the 6th Bowl as part of the kings of the east. BUT not the 6th Trumpet 200 million man army.

SO as a result I've privately thought that something happens to take China out. Covid actually hit them harder than they admit. I've seen recent Chinese critics pointing out that they think many more died than were accounted for, and that isn't helping their economy.

I think they are invested in looking and sounding bigger than they are. I was listening to Gordon Chang on the subject - YouTube recently talking about the economic effect on China and it's going to devastate them.

Yes Gordon has said this for years, but due to the action of God restraining things, he may still be quite right. I remember people scoffing that Russia was imploding during the Reagan years. Till it did. My inlaws knew what was happening. Sometimes these things are delayed by God's timing so that they happen at the right time in order for prophetic reasons.

This is all the more reason for them to act now and try to retake Taiwan as a matter of pride, but for them it's a race between their population implosion and their economic implosion.

I've thought maybe they implode completely during a regional war that they might undertake- but whatever it is, China isn't in prophecy.

Neither is the USA. That I think is due to the Rapture combined with growing isolationist policies- staying away from being the world's policemen, or the worlds bankers. Some theories have USA showing up as Babylon, but I find that a very remote possibility. The USA isn't in scripture. Not in prophecy.

But this current situation seems to play right into that and it's interesting to watch. Maybe we are seeing prophetic stage setting at work. China will bark loudly till their last gasp. Something finishes them off before Gog Magog. All the rest of the players in the SCO look like Gog Magog to me. Except China.

Maybe China's devastated by multiple plagues (that may well originate in their labs and live-meat markets).

 

[TCC]

China has had serious financial issues before Covid even, and that Evergrande collapse in 2021 that destroyed their real estate market just after the Covid years was classic Communist meddling in what ought to have remained a free market. The drop in population combined with drop in demand for Chinese goods destroyed their internal economy which was already weakened by the idiocy of central planning, and it's been slowly working it's way thru their system.

That said from a prophecy point of view I've often wondered why China isn't part of things more.

It's like America- the States show up possibly as one of the cubs of Tarshish. Whether Tarshish is Britain or Spain, the USA is from both so take your pick. America isn't Tarshish because she wasn't a tin mine known to Israel's prophets then or at any point in history while tin mines were active in Britain and Spain during the time of Solomon, long before Ezek wrote. The USA is a daughter of Britain, and to a smaller degree Spain, so I think she's one of the cubs of Tarshish in Ezek 38.

The kings of the east in Revelation are plural, when they show up near the end of the Tribulation (Rev 16) as the angel dries up the Euphrates so they can march to surround Jerusalem and be eliminated by King Jesus. That doesn't mean China, that means kings plural of the East- a compass direction that includes a lot of different countries on the Eurasian continent. It is the 6th bowl or vial judgment right near the end of the Tribulation in Rev 16.

As for that 200 million man army in Rev 9 at the 6th Trumpet judgment that is often confused with the kings of the east, it's a different judgment, a different point in time in the Tribulation and that 200 million man army appears to be demonic, and related to the 4 evil angels from below the Euphrates.

What I really wonder about is why China doesn't appear in Gog Magog (Ezek 38). Because if that is in the very near future it would make sense- they should support Russia and Iran and Turkey all of whom they are close to in the SCO (Shanghai Cooperation Organization- NATO for nasties) AND the anti American BRICS organization.

Except the closest to China we get is Hal Lindsay's often repeated idea that because China could field a 200 million man army, that the 6th Trumpet must be them, and then again at the 6th Bowl. And looking at the text I don't see that in there. Maybe the 6th Bowl as part of the kings of the east. BUT not the 6th Trumpet 200 million man army.

SO as a result I've privately thought that something happens to take China out. Covid actually hit them harder than they admit. I've seen recent Chinese critics pointing out that they think many more died than were accounted for, and that isn't helping their economy.

I think they are invested in looking and sounding bigger than they are. I was listening to Gordon Chang on the subject - YouTube recently talking about the economic effect on China and it's going to devastate them.

Yes Gordon has said this for years, but due to the action of God restraining things, he may still be quite right. I remember people scoffing that Russia was imploding during the Reagan years. Till it did. My inlaws knew what was happening. Sometimes these things are delayed by God's timing so that they happen at the right time in order for prophetic reasons.

This is all the more reason for them to act now and try to retake Taiwan as a matter of pride, but for them it's a race between their population implosion and their economic implosion.

I've thought maybe they implode completely during a regional war that they might undertake- but whatever it is, China isn't in prophecy.

Neither is the USA. That I think is due to the Rapture combined with growing isolationist policies- staying away from being the world's policemen, or the worlds bankers. Some theories have USA showing up as Babylon, but I find that a very remote possibility. The USA isn't in scripture. Not in prophecy.

But this current situation seems to play right into that and it's interesting to watch. Maybe we are seeing prophetic stage setting at work. China will bark loudly till their last gasp. Something finishes them off before Gog Magog. All the rest of the players in the SCO look like Gog Magog to me. Except China.

China I think has been a great interest and enigma in eschatolgy. Amen. They would seem to have some place in prophecy it would seem. But yeah very difficult to nail down. Amen. To me, things are taking shape providentially in some very tricky and unusual ways. The general vibe I get, as mentioned before, is that Providence seems to be as much about keeping things that belong to the age of grace in that same age "proper." And also providing a window into, of course, how many things might echo into the tribulation and beast system as well. Amen. Keeping those two vastly different themes in their respective holdings can be challenge for sure. Blessings.

 

[Tall Timbers]

India Sees ‘Opportunity of a Lifetime’ in Trump’s Trade Policy​

Indian Commerce Minister Piyush Goyal said on Monday that President Donald Trump’s trade policies could create “the opportunity of a lifetime” for India.

“We stand at a moment in history where India is well-poised to convert the current situation into an opportunity,” Goyal told the India Global Forum in Mumbai.

Goyal described India as sympathetic to President Trump’s push for fairness in supply chains and eager to prove its fast-growing economy can step forward to take China’s place.

“If somebody was to ask me what would be the trigger point of where we are today and why we are going through this churn, the starting point of this actually goes to the beginning of 2000 when China was admitted as a member of the WTO,” he said.

India Sees ‘Opportunity of a Lifetime’ in Trump’s Trade Policy

Commerce Minister Piyush Goyal says President Donald Trump’s trade policies could create “the opportunity of a lifetime” for India.

www.breitbart.com

For any country that wants to try and enhance it's trading position with the USA, now's the time to go for it.

By the time the dust settles, China may have lost a lot that they'll never get back. Given how dangerous China is to the world right now, I have to hope that that is one of the end results of this disruption to global trade.

 

[Margery]

India Sees ‘Opportunity of a Lifetime’ in Trump’s Trade Policy​

Indian Commerce Minister Piyush Goyal said on Monday that President Donald Trump’s trade policies could create “the opportunity of a lifetime” for India.

“We stand at a moment in history where India is well-poised to convert the current situation into an opportunity,” Goyal told the India Global Forum in Mumbai.

Goyal described India as sympathetic to President Trump’s push for fairness in supply chains and eager to prove its fast-growing economy can step forward to take China’s place.

“If somebody was to ask me what would be the trigger point of where we are today and why we are going through this churn, the starting point of this actually goes to the beginning of 2000 when China was admitted as a member of the WTO,” he said.

India Sees ‘Opportunity of a Lifetime’ in Trump’s Trade Policy

Commerce Minister Piyush Goyal says President Donald Trump’s trade policies could create “the opportunity of a lifetime” for India.

www.breitbart.com

For any country that wants to try and enhance it's trading position with the USA, now's the time to go for it.

By the time the dust settles, China may have lost a lot that they'll never get back. Given how dangerous China is to the world right now, I have to hope that that is one of the end results of this disruption to global trade.

India wants to take China's place as the supply for cheap goods. They're eager to do business and if China is busy falling on their sword, India will walk over their dying corpse to find new business opportunities for India.

India has a thriving pharmaceutical industry, they supply the Canadian medical system with cheap knockoffs. Reasonably good quality too.

India has zero love for China - they fight with them in the Himalayas as China moves in on India's territory, claims it and hangs on. They shot some Indian army officers trying to defend India's borders a few years back. The Shanghai Cooperation Org that they both belong to doesn't get involved so India is settling the score. India joined the SCO to keep an eye on 2 enemies of India- China and Pakistan in the estimate of journalists who followed it at the time.

India and China are also part of BRICS original 5 nations- that effort to topple the US petrodollar and replace it with something that the US can't use in sanctions.

For India this is the opportunity of a lifetime. Settle a score with China, take their business, and get in good with the wealthiest country on the planet.

 

[Ghoti Ichthus]

India wants to take China's place as the supply for cheap goods. They're eager to do business and if China is busy falling on their sword, India will walk over their dying corpse to find new business opportunities for India.

India has a thriving pharmaceutical industry, they supply the Canadian medical system with cheap knockoffs. Reasonably good quality too.

India has zero love for China - they fight with them in the Himalayas as China moves in on India's territory, claims it and hangs on. They shot some Indian army officers trying to defend India's borders a few years back. The Shanghai Cooperation Org that they both belong to doesn't get involved so India is settling the score. India joined the SCO to keep an eye on 2 enemies of India- China and Pakistan in the estimate of journalists who followed it at the time.

India and China are also part of BRICS original 5 nations- that effort to topple the US petrodollar and replace it with something that the US can't use in sanctions.

For India this is the opportunity of a lifetime. Settle a score with China, take their business, and get in good with the wealthiest country on the planet.

They make some really nice, organic cotton sheets and other bedding.

Maybe prices will come down (since covid started, they've become beyond outrageous)