Hmm, I am careful to link Trump as Cyrus. Thanks to NARly Lance Wallnau declaring Trump as 45th President because he ripped Isaiah Chapter 45 out of bible.
Those NARly apostles and prophets are jumping for joy now because they will claim God validated their prophecies. More sheep will be fleeced over $$$ and false teachings.
@TCC , you can read
Isaiah 47 since Trump is incoming next year. Haaa.....
Another interesting take, someone observed Trump's cabinet appointments are mainly pro-Israel which makes him think that Trump will
Make Israel Great Again (MIGA) not MAGA. The MAGAdonians will not be happy to hear this, LOL.
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This is what Zak Spiro posted to warn us about deceivers today: Copied from YT post
Throwback video that I did on
Alan Didio... I'm noticing that he's being welcomed (and defended) more and more into the non-charismatic circles, similar to
Jonathan Cahn who I also warn to stay away from. These men are being allowed into a whole new community and they're bringing the false mystery religion with them. We are called to separate from the world, not embrace it. Be aware of who is being allowed into your backyard.
I appreciate the concern brother. We do see things rather differently. Because NAR falsely makes Cyrus references does not mean Cyrus may mean nothing today prophetically. I am not saying for sure. But America was predicated upon several governance themes of his. And if that is related to our day, it would be for cause relating historically to over 200 years before NAR existed.
The way I would see this is that just because NAR uses Cyrus in an idolatrous way, does not mean they own the interpretation of how Cyrus might actually relate to our day, or not. I see a great connection of Cyrus and the USA. In one sense I could ask, “What is harder to say, that Israel has been protected by the USA for the length of its existence and in this way has been protected by a governmental ancestor of Cyrus (the USA), or that NAR owns every interpretation of Cyrus echo by virtue, or lack thereof of their flawed theology?” I would choose the former. Because I don’t believe we should rule out biblical themes that may have merit just because a fringe group of people get any potentially relevant connection wrong. I would see doing that as two wings of the same bird though.
On one hand, NAR stresses how they look at things as though it were coming from God prophetically. While, on the other hand, some segments of the watcher movement that are not NAR claim their perspectives too are the prophetically correct view. Like I said, I do appreciate the concern. But I don’t subscribe to either extreme. But I do take into account a two-wings of the same observation in how in general the church is looking at things. And my discoverings along the way suggest to me that both extremes are inaccurate.
What I would make of a Trump/Cyrus connection, or the fact that Israel also lauds Trump in this way not to be false prophecy. As much as symptom highlighting Trump. Not that the way NAR looks at it is accurate. But just that the drama surrounding and the emphasis on Trump to be more so a social artifact of our day.
The concern against NAR claims is understandable. For many reasons, I agree. But our concern in greater part with NAR is their dismissal of a coming tribulation and an embracing of post mil/amil. When they see Cyrus they see a seven mountain mandate by which to welcome Christ’s return without a tribulation. They connect Cyrus to the value they see they are (their sense of being the church). When I see Cyrus connections I see it as relating to the millennial kingdom. Not because there is no tribulation. But because in God’s good character, the 1st seal may be a small taste of the millennial kingdom for Israel’s sake.
These are very different values. NAR values their worth in our age. While implications to Cyrus seem to point more toward the value of Israel. And that, on steroids. So I understand how my thinking the world gets an apocalyptic taste of the kingdom to come could look very much like how NAR sees Cyrus. But its apples and oranges. I believe it is error for the church not to see that. Or at least consider it. That view of course may not be accurate. But the very reason we are having this conversation kind of testifies to that. Because of the unprecedented gravity of opinion that surrounds Trump. To have such strong views pro or con toward him, infers to me the nature of Trump as a polarizing figure by fiat. And that level of approximation to such a man, to me, suggests him being a lightening rod for attention.
I believe the church has a very important role in the age of grace last days. But I would suggest that what might be coming might look a whole lot like what NAR is thinking. Not that God would grant false prophecy. But rather transcend it and use NAR as a mirror of sorts for the more sound church to also reflect. A reflection that accentuates the dismissal of the church’s role in coming days. In other words, a reflection that perhaps signals how the church does not exactly fit in what is likely coming not too many days from now. In this way I would view NAR as a testimony how the church does not match the soon coming age.
I guess I would see it as a humbling of the church of sorts. To perhaps see “some” things occur that “seems” to line up with NAR. Ultimately it does not line up with. But in the ways permitted that it might seems to imply a question: “Why would God allow false teachers to get such a measure of end time roll out perhaps more accurate than the sound church?” And I think that is the right question. Because it would then likely mean an implication that God on some levels would want the sound church to ask. And the answer would seem to mean that perhaps we were not listening so much. Not out of spite. More so out of mercy I think.
It kind of reminds me of the Steve Lawson phenomenon. Lawson is guilty of his sin. But it is becoming a mercy for the reformed church to consider what they believe they might not be getting right. Because what is being slowly and so very tenderly from Him revealed, is that the American reformed faith is caught in their lack of the soundest biblical leadership infrastructure. It would seem God is allowing the massive holes in the restoration system of the reformed American church to be exposed (judgement comes upon the church first… we in general are not without error). So like in that analogy, Lawson would be NAR. And the sober minded church the reformed leadership. Putting aside notions of a great awakening, God is allowing things to be uncovered.
In closing, I will demonstrate a very difficult concept. And this portion of my post will likely be the most difficult. I am aware my words here will likely not share agreement by most. Much less what I am about to say here. And admittedly I could be in error in looking at things this way. If I am, I am sure it be seen likely as gross error… lol. But in light of more to be revealed that changes things, this view expressed, although raw, seems to have a reasonable measure of merit – dispite I am sure what it otherwise sounds like… lol. Because if I did not think along these lines for what I perceive to be cause, I would likely not give what I am sharing here much credence. So its cool. I am not posting this to convince. I’m posting this because I find it odd that the interim years of Trump’s presidencies, I was posting for 4 years on JDF, and now Trump is re-elected. And in God’s grace affording that, before it is to happen… if it happens. It’s just on my heart I reckon.
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In the days of Trumps last presidency, Trump visited a church out of the blue after golfing. And asked the pastor to pray for him. It was an odd move. At the time David Platt was known for being a woke pastor. So it did cause some small stir. But what I find incredibly ironic about that is that it turns out a documentary recently came out showing how David Platt pulled a hostile takeover of that church. And used it for Southern Baptist money laundering. It was kind of like Trump meets the criminal syndicate church asking for prayer. And I see that to a degree metaphoric. In that God, the authority above all authorities, uses government to tap on the church shoulder. Almost possibly poetic in highlighting the Grand Shot Caller above in the authority over and above a church age gone rogue. In that metaphor, God who ordains government would be Trump. That might sound quite a bit too far. But regardless what we think, He is that authority over authorities And in proper context, that is a good reminder. Blessings.
