It is good to see Jack Hibbs identifying false teachers. In any of this though, has Jack separated himself from NAR? From what I understand Che Ahn is running for CA Govenor in 2026, but has said recently that he is no longer associated with NAR. So in general, it seems like there is a movement among previous NAR supporters to move away from them to a degree. Che's move for governor would explain his wanting to distance himself from NAR I suppose politically. Which is kind of why I would ask if there is any sense Hibbs has officially moved away from NAR? In part, the issues concerning Michael Brown might have woken some people in NAR up. Hopefully.
In any event, I am glad to at least see Hibbs calling out bad teachers and seeing a path forward aside from Trump. Amen. It was needed. For the record, I do not view an interest in nationalism or having a pro-political stance in society to = being a dominionist or NAR. I believe Christians can be involved in politics and often should. And I believe that being a nationalist is biblical because that is how God formed society. But because of the concerns in recent years that have arisen with NAR and Trump, to me, it is becoming increasingly difficult for believers to distinguish between NAR and what can be very healthy community care through politics. Throwing the baby out with the bathwater, to sort of speak.
I believe in JD's case, he has affirmed that being politically minded in our current climate so close to the end of the age is holding too dearly to this earth. And although I believe there are some good warnings that come from a position like JD's, JD was also aware of how much a blessing his friend Bud has been in his life. And that to a degree, by JD extending friendship with Bud, JD knows there are some sane and healthy ways to be involved politically if some Christains have more of an interest in that.
To me in general, it seems in our day that there is a tendency to merge genuine political care with Christian Natioanlism and NAR. And I would see a lack of distinction there as very unhealthy. And allowing the spirit of the age to blur the lines. Having said that though, I am glad to see Hibbs becoming more centered as a pastor. Amen. Blessings.
Very good points, and I agree.
Jack was on Daystar, which is crammed to the rafters with NAR but as Daystar's "issues" continue to unfold, more and more people that were on there like Jack and like Laura Thompson are doing a rethink.
And that is a healthy thing. We can all get caught up with others in a movement, or a group and go along till something happens that makes us pause, rethink and do a little distancing and consider the theology more deeply.
I find the merge points with politics and "christian" nationalism a bit difficult because I'm a Christian, but not an American so sometimes when the 2 merge it's a bit tricky to pick them apart and find the points of agreement as a Christian, and the areas where God bless you guys but I'm a Canuck born and bred and I'm just going to be a patriotic Canadian.
If my country is busy doing bad things (every country does, people are saved, not countries) I call it out, and the rest of the time I'm all about making Canada great again just like MAGA is to the south.
Christians all around the world have a lot in common with other Christians in the States, but it doesn't make us Americans, or think like Americans, or even cause us to want to be Americans (unless we are called to become Americans, like
@mattfivefour is )
I want to be the best Christian Canadian possible, witnessing to those around me, building my country, praying for my leaders even when they are bone headed stupid or evil.
When you said this:
there is a tendency to merge genuine political care with Christian Natioanlism and NAR. And I would see a lack of distinction there as very unhealthy. And allowing the spirit of the age to blur the lines.
I wanted to stand up and cheer! That puts it into words for me. The spirit of the age IS blurring the lines! Because that's what Satan DOES! Truth brother! PREACH!
Oh and this business of the NAR- because I was involved in that before it even had that name, in that bad church in the 90s, I'm SO allergic to it and I see it all over.
It reaaaaallly gave me the creeps to find out that Douglas Wilson is influential in politics on the Right nowadays. People are easily sucked in, I don't blame Pete Hegseth, after all I was in a NAR church back in the 90s without realizing why it was going nuts. But he's in a position of power, and just like Paula White did with Trump, they gravitate towards positions of influence in politics and power ON PURPOSE!!!!
That 7 mountain thing again.
I felt sick finding out who that Feucht guy is- that Canada didn't allow to perform. I'm still not happy about banning his performance, but I found out the guy is HILLSONG! And WORD FAITH. Justin Peters had a critique of him and his theology up months ago and I just found out when I was trying to figure out who that Feucht christian singer guy was.
Another mountain mandate at work- culture. The so called 7 mountains include politics, arts and entertainment, business and several other areas where these people infiltrate and influence with a very very false theology rooted in works- Dominating the culture, dominating the world and bringing it all under THEIR control before Jesus can come back.
They don't even realize how blasphemous that is, to put Jesus ability to come back, behind their ability to dominate and control the world. NO wonder the leftists go squirrelly because even though they don't have a clue about the theology, they know it's bad. And it's giving Christianity a bad name.
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