IS THE USA IN BIBLE PROPHECY?

[Andy C]

I was reading another thread on this forum, which gave me the idea to post this question and answer from Jack Kelleys web site.

In short, we are not as important as we in the USA seem to believe we are - as it relates to bible prophecy.


Question: I have a hard time believing that we can’t see the USA in prophecy. This country is way too influential and center stage/unique to overlook and to ignore these facts is like being blinded to a major truth. It also seems possible that this country could represent the great whore in the bible, because of the trade, commerce intertwining with the other countries and I wonder if this is the place that will be mourned at some point because of destruction, either financial ruin or other destruction. In other words, I think that this country could be the new Babylon.

Answer: The reason I don’t see the USA in prophecy is that there’s not one verse in the Bible that can be used to support this view. We Americans think that we’re so important that surely we must be in the Bible, but when compared to the countries who are mentioned we are nothing more than a flash in the pan, a country with a little over 200 years of history, and only about half of that significant to the rest of the world.

Sure, we’re guilty of enough sin to be compared to Babylon, but we didn’t start every single pagan religion like Babylon did, we aren’t second only to Jerusalem in terms of mentions in the Bible like Babylon is, and we aren’t located in the cradle of civilization where Babylon is. Our main connection to Babylon is that we’ve enabled it to be reborn for it’s role in the end times.

The inescapable fact is that as far as Bible prophecy is concerned, there is no direct mention of the USA in the End Times, and there’s only one indirect one. It’s in Jeremiah 30:11 and it says in the end times, God will completely destroy every nation among which His people have been scattered. More Jewish people have been scattered in the USA than in any other country.

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[Spartan Sprinter]

Yep and they ain't mystery babylon either

 

[Margery]

It’s in Jeremiah 30:11 and it says in the end times, God will completely destroy every nation among which His people have been scattered. More Jewish people have been scattered in the USA than in any other country.

And Canada is second to you, then comes France as places for the Jews to live outside Israel. That is a sobering verse!

 

[Greg]

The mystery Babylon thing drives me crazy sometimes.

 

[Ghoti Ichthus]

[very minority view]

I think the US and Canada (and maybe the rest of the Western hemisphere, and maybe even Australia) are the lands of unwalled villages and isles people live in mentioned in Ezekiel 38:10-13 and Ezekiel 39:6. Living without walls, gates, and bars is careless living brought about by feeling secure and at peace, and I also think God wasn't ready for the Eastern world to know about the Western hemisphere at the time Ezekiel was written.

I also think Ezekiel 38:10-13 is a parenthesis like the Church because of the words "at the same time shall things come into thy mind, and thou salt think an evil thought . . ."


10 Thus saith the Lord God; It shall also come to pass, that at the same time shall things come into thy mind, and thou shalt think an evil thought:
11 And thou shalt say, I will go up to the land of unwalled villages; I will go to them that are at rest, that dwell safely, all of them dwelling without walls, and having neither bars nor gates,
12 To take a spoil, and to take a prey; to turn thine hand upon the desolate places that are now inhabited, and upon the people that are gathered out of the nations, which have gotten cattle and goods, that dwell in the midst of the land.
13 Sheba, and Dedan, and the merchants of Tarshish, with all the young lions thereof, shall say unto thee, Art thou come to take a spoil? hast thou gathered thy company to take a prey? to carry away silver and gold, to take away cattle and goods, to take a great spoil?
Ezekiel 38:10-13, KJV


6 And I will send a fire on Magog, and among them that dwell carelessly in the isles: and they shall know that I am the Lord.
Ezekiel 39:6, KJV


Ducks rocks.

 

[Andy C]

From “Got Questions”.

The United States of America is never explicitly mentioned in the Bible, and there are no biblical prophecies that point with certainty to the United States. As far as we can tell, the United States of America is not mentioned in biblical prophecy.

The Bible tells the story of God’s plan to save the world, and so the Bible’s natural focus is on the people of God, from the patriarchs to the Hebrew people to the Jewish nation. “Theirs is the adoption to sonship; theirs the divine glory, the covenants, the receiving of the law, the temple worship and the promises. Theirs are the patriarchs, and from them is traced the human ancestry of the Messiah” (Romans 9:4–5). Other nations mentioned in the Bible are usually considered in terms of their relation to Israel, God’s chosen people. The biblical focus on Israel holds true in end-times prophecy, too. The book of Revelation does not mention any countries or nations other than Israel (Revelation 7:4; 21:12) and Babylon (Revelation 14:8; 16:19; 17:5; 18:2,10,21), but the “Babylon” in Revelation is most likely a symbolic reference to the Antichrist’s evil kingdom.

Various groups try to find the United States in prophecy, and some of their interpretations show great creativity. Some see the United States as the second beast that rises from the earth in Revelation 13. Others see the “people tall and smooth-skinned, . . . feared far and wide” in Isaiah 18:2 as a reference to Americans, although the context is an oracle against Cush (verse 1). Still others point to Ezekiel 38:13, which, in describing the Battle of Gog and Magog, refers to “the merchants of Tarshish and all her villages”: according to this theory, “Tarshish” is Britain, and the “villages” are the English-speaking colonies such as the United States of America. And then there’s the reference to the “great eagle” that protects the woman/Israel in Revelation 12:14—another reference to the United States’ role in the end times, according to some.

The problem is that the above interpretations require a good amount of speculation and seem to come from an Anglo-centric (or at least an America-centric) perspective. The fact remains that the United States of America is not clearly specified in any end-timesprophecy in the Bible. We assume that general prophecies that pertain to all the nations of the world will include the United States: if the U.S. is still in existence in the end times, it will be one of the “all nations” judged by God (Isaiah 34:2–3; Haggai 2:7; Joel 3:2) and one of the “all nations” that flow to Zion to worship the True King (Isaiah 2:2).

Why is the United States of America not clearly mentioned in Bible prophecy? There could be several reasons:

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[Tall Timbers]

Most countries aren't mentioned directly in Bible prophecy. The whole world will suffer through Tribulation. The state of the USA in the very last days remains to be seen. I expect that it would at least become part of one of the ten regions.