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will happen in Gods perfect timing. No man knows the hour or the day so good luck figuring it out.
will happen in Gods perfect timing. No man knows the hour or the day so good luck figuring it out.
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Is the RAPTURE Really This Month? The Bible’s Timeline Is Shocking
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LightOfMyLife
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Your answers are excellentIt seems this thread has a life of its own.
I dont like any date setters, or even hints of a timeframe. We simply cant know no matter how hard we search scripture.
I dont believe, or at least think its not likely the rapture happens in conjunction with any Jewish holiday. However, if it does, the FOT seems most likely to be the one.
I dont hope the rapture is this month because I hope it is every day. Why limit myself to a particular month.
I do think those who put so much hope in whatever someone predicts in regards to the day of the rapture, will be greatly disappointed and depressed when it does not come to pass.
I do look forward to leaving this fallen world, but I also have to admit life is not bad for me. We enjoy being around family and friends, and enjoy traveling the roads of this country. I simply try my best to shut out as much as possible all the negatives of our times. Evil seems to be winning, FOR NOW, but not in the end!
Andy C some things we are just not to know. I 
agree with your statements.
Baby Yoda
Always Watching
Your answers are excellent
me too
I'm catching up on some YTube vids on my feed this morning, and Mike Winger came up- an absolutely EXCELLENT DEBUNKING of this particular Rapture video that started this whole thread
and Mike gets into who inspired this guy (he's going to debunk him next week, and then he's going to cap off the countdown to this latest date setting scheme by pointing out ALL the different YouTubers who got on this bandwagon so that they can be marked and avoided. As the Bible says.
Don't worry about the length. Mike deals with this Sept 23 nonsense in the first half hour. BEST DEBUNK on this particular one I've come across yet!
He does it gently, scripturally and without name calling or humiliating. He is calling the body of Christ to move away from these efforts.
Here he is:
www.youtube.com
He begins at 02:15 and ends by 35:00 or so.
Along the way he gives an overview of the main dating fiascos including the Great Disappointment that launched the 7th Day Adventists and the Jehovah's Witnesses, with a focus on the stuff since the 1988 one that had a lot of good names fall into it. He goes onto the Y2K, the Mayan Calendar, the 2017 sign, and others.
He gives a good solid grounding into the Bible basis as to why these are wrong - helping teach people to avoid such things in future.
10/10
and Mike gets into who inspired this guy (he's going to debunk him next week, and then he's going to cap off the countdown to this latest date setting scheme by pointing out ALL the different YouTubers who got on this bandwagon so that they can be marked and avoided. As the Bible says.
Don't worry about the length. Mike deals with this Sept 23 nonsense in the first half hour. BEST DEBUNK on this particular one I've come across yet!
He does it gently, scripturally and without name calling or humiliating. He is calling the body of Christ to move away from these efforts.
Here he is:
- YouTube
Enjoy the videos and music you love, upload original content, and share it all with friends, family, and the world on YouTube.
www.youtube.com
He begins at 02:15 and ends by 35:00 or so.
Along the way he gives an overview of the main dating fiascos including the Great Disappointment that launched the 7th Day Adventists and the Jehovah's Witnesses, with a focus on the stuff since the 1988 one that had a lot of good names fall into it. He goes onto the Y2K, the Mayan Calendar, the 2017 sign, and others.
He gives a good solid grounding into the Bible basis as to why these are wrong - helping teach people to avoid such things in future.
10/10
Yeah, it's a foolish endeavor in my opinion, but even so, I'll be happy for it to happen on this Sep 23...
Mike says that too.
Baby Yoda
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He does it gently, scripturally and without name calling or humiliating. He is calling the body of Christ to move away from these efforts.
Here he is:
- YouTube
Enjoy the videos and music you love, upload original content, and share it all with friends, family, and the world on YouTube.
Listening now.
Me too. I would even settle for the 24th…..
Spartan Sprinter
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Apparently the religious Jews are going to livestream the trumpets being blown 100 times on feast of trumpets.I'm catching up on some YTube vids on my feed this morning, and Mike Winger came up- an absolutely EXCELLENT DEBUNKING of this particular Rapture video that started this whole thread
and Mike gets into who inspired this guy (he's going to debunk him next week, and then he's going to cap off the countdown to this latest date setting scheme by pointing out ALL the different YouTubers who got on this bandwagon so that they can be marked and avoided. As the Bible says.
Don't worry about the length. Mike deals with this Sept 23 nonsense in the first half hour. BEST DEBUNK on this particular one I've come across yet!
He does it gently, scripturally and without name calling or humiliating. He is calling the body of Christ to move away from these efforts.
Here he is:
- YouTube
Enjoy the videos and music you love, upload original content, and share it all with friends, family, and the world on YouTube.
He begins at 02:15 and ends by 35:00 or so.
Along the way he gives an overview of the main dating fiascos including the Great Disappointment that launched the 7th Day Adventists and the Jehovah's Witnesses, with a focus on the stuff since the 1988 one that had a lot of good names fall into it. He goes onto the Y2K, the Mayan Calendar, the 2017 sign, and others.
He gives a good solid grounding into the Bible basis as to why these are wrong - helping teach people to avoid such things in future.
10/10
My late husband had a cousin who was the official shofar blower at his temple in L.A.
Barry was a religious Jew...........and I loved him dearly. We could talk about our different faiths with mutual respect.
I can still hear the eerie blasts that emitted on his shofar on the feast of trumpets.
It saddens me that he never knew his Messiah..........my Jesus.
Barry was a religious Jew...........and I loved him dearly. We could talk about our different faiths with mutual respect.
I can still hear the eerie blasts that emitted on his shofar on the feast of trumpets.
It saddens me that he never knew his Messiah..........my Jesus.
Matthew6:33
Set your face like flint - Isaiah 50:7
Just saying its fine with me if the Lord wants to do the Rapture this month!
I was surprised that he touched on the Y2K movement at the end of the 19hundreds. So where is the truth in all of it? I remember hearing a talk about the failure of the prediction. What this guy said [ and he had a lot of the facts used by others in their predictions of computer failures] he said that the US Navy kept their old computer running as well as their new one. At midnight on December 31, 1999 the old Navy computer quit working. What a lot of people were saying was that it was all a lie. But why would so many businesses invest in new computers and programs if not truth??
True my Radio Shack TRS80 model 1 didn't quit working. But my understanding was the big computers that calculated dates and time that would fail.
Doesn't the Bible say that man won't know the day and hour of the Rapture? Seems that eliminates any date setting.
True my Radio Shack TRS80 model 1 didn't quit working. But my understanding was the big computers that calculated dates and time that would fail.
Doesn't the Bible say that man won't know the day and hour of the Rapture? Seems that eliminates any date setting.
He touched on Y2K but only to emphasize the nature of it as it became a bit of a date setter thing in it's own right.
Y2K failed because a lot of people understood the problem and worked extremely hard starting about 5 years before Y2K.
I know because George was on that team working within BCHydro, our provincial electric utility. He argued on line with Rushdoony's annoying son in law who was a big part of the Y2K hysteria- Gary North aka "Scary Gary". George debunked him using the truth but of course Gary was a snake oil salesman- selling all kinds of books, generators, gas canisters, wheat grinders, buckets of wheat, beans and at the very end DUCT TAPE!
Gary North is an amillennialist or post mill, can't remember off hand so he wasn't pushing the Rapture part of it, but others did. Mike mentions them, and they include some big names.
Gary went from Church to church selling his panic and his "solutions". Made a LOT of money. In the process he spread a lot of the Reconstructionist/Dominionist teachings that became so popular in years since. Those people are the ones that are so anti pre trib now.
There were a few- very few computer systems that did get hit across North America and Europe. Most businesses and vital industries like electric power (my husband's work), hospitals and phone systems were fine because they did pay attention.
I don't remember hearing that the US Navy had any troubles- but perhaps they wanted to leave an old system running just to see what happened.
George talked with me about how the different govt's and essential services around the world were coordinating in the years leading up to it. It was why he wasn't concerned at all.
Hol
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I caught up on Mike Winger stuff on the weekend. He is so biblical!
When he points out that Y2K and the Mayan calendar were different than the usual date setters he explained that typically date setters draw their predictions from Daniel and other Scripture. A lot of those he cited had very impressive degrees in the hard sciences. One of my older brothers was a math major and his college roommate was an Israeli on a student visa, super smart guys. Their deep dive into math really humbled them, as it should. If my brother were saved, he’d be like John Lennox (who is such a humble renowned Christian apologist, and professor of mathematics at Oxford).
Mike Winger points out the arrogance and subsequent embarrassment of the date setters. I was surprised how many were mathematicians.
1LoverofGod
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By Jonathan Brentner
It’s with a bit of trepidation that I address the buildup of excitement regarding the possibility of the Rapture occurring on September 23 or 24, 2025, during the Feast of Trumpets. I recognize it’s a sensitive subject for many and sadly, it has caused controversy and even division within the body of Christ.
Let me begin by saying that based on what I have read or seen on social media, most of us who are excited about the possibility of a September Rapture are not saying it will happen during this year’s Feast of Trumpets. We avoid date-setting and agree that it’s wrong to do so. We recognize that such failed predictions in the past have placed an unwelcome stigma on those of us who yearn for Jesus’ soon appearing.
On the other hand, this month’s UN activities have unmistakable implications in terms of Bible prophecy. There’s already been a vote with the wide majority of nations favoring the recognition a Palestinian state, which would divide the Land that God gave to the descendants of Jacob. The Bible long ago said that such activity would mark the last days as well as spark the Lord’s anger (Joel 3:1-3; Zechariah 12:1-3). A year or two ago, I thought that the current determined and widespread clamoring among the nations to divide Israel and Jerusalem would not happen until after the Rapture, but it’s already here.
Besides that, the words “peace and security” will repeatedly reverberate through the chambers of the UN building during its September 2025 assembly. In 1 Thessalonians 5:1-3, Paul wrote that the “sudden destruction” of the Day of the Lord would fall on the unbelieving world while people are saying “peace and security.”
Is it possible that the Lord might visibly respond to this year’s rancor at the UN, which will reach its peak next week beginning on September 22? Could the Rapture happen during this year’s celebration of the Feast of Trumpets?
Several prophecy experts believe that the Rapture will fulfill Rosh Hashanah. Bible prophecy scholar and author, Arnold G. Fruchtenbaum, wrote the following in his comprehensive work, The Footsteps of the Messiah, concerning the “last trump” of 1 Corinthians 15:52:
“The last trump refers to the Feast of Trumpets and the Jewish practice of blowing shofars during the feast. There are a series of short trumpet sounds followed by one long trumpet blast which is called the tekiah gedolah, “the great trumpet blast.” As such, it says nothing concerning the timing of the rapture; only that the rapture, whenever it occurs, will fulfill the Feast of Trumpets.”
I agree with Dr. Fruchtenbaum. It’s my belief that whether or not the Rapture occurs during God’s set time of this feast, Jesus will fulfill Rosh Hashana when He comes to take us home. As such, I understand the excitement and anticipation that Jesus might come for His Church during Israel’s celebration of it. There’s also a precedent for such an anticipation.
Jesus fulfilled the previous feasts during the appointed time God set for them. And since the Day of Atonement and Feasts of Booths await a future fulfillment, we do not yet know if the Lord will fulfill them at the time set for them in Leviticus 23:26-43.
I believe Zechariah 12:10-13:1 records what will happen during the future fulfillment of the Day of Atonement when the Jewish people see Jesus for who He is, their Messiah, and repent. Could this happen, or perhaps begin, on the day set for this observance in the Old Testament? I think so.
For those who agree that the Rapture fulfills the Feast of Trumpets but tell us it’s unlikely to happen this month, please understand the perspective that says it just might happen during the Feast of Trumpets. There is a precedent for Jesus fulfilling the feasts during the time God set for them.
If you expect to meet to Jesus in the air later this month, please do not conclude that it must occur on September 23 or 24. Even if it’s the Lord’s intention for the Rapture to happen on Rosh Hoshana, we do not know if it will be this year or even if the current Jewish calendar matches God’s.
Even so, is it not a time for heightened watchfulness?
Along with the Lord instructing His followers to always watch and be ready for His return (Matthew 24:36-25:13), He also spoke of a future time of heightened anticipation in Luke 21:28, “But when these things begin to happen, stand up and lift up your heads, because your redemption is near.”
In the context of instructing His disciples about the many signs that would mark the days leading up to His return, Jesus referred to a time when these signs would become so pronounced that believers would recognize the nearness of their “redemption” and watch for it all the more intently by lifting up their heads in anticipation of Jesus’ appearing. Without a doubt, we live during that time.
There has never been such a convergence of signs pointing to the nearness of the Tribulation such as we see today. The multitude of signs, all happening at once, signifies that we are ever so close to the time we will meet Jesus in the air. We may not even have tomorrow let alone the remainder of September. It is a time for added vigilance in watching for our Lord’s return, just as He said in Luke 21:26.
The shocking assassination of Charlie Kirk underscores the nature of the widespread lawlessness and violence in our world, which the Bible long ago predicted would mark the days leading up to Jesus’ appearing. The stunning news of Charlie’s murder shouts with the message that we live in the fleeting moments leading up to our sudden departure. In the hours and days after hearing about his death, I felt a deep sadness along with what I might describe as a gnawing feeling deep in my soul.
Regardless of what we believe about Rosh Hoshana or its fulfillment in the Rapture, we all agree that the time is exceedingly short until Jesus takes us, His true Church, home to glory. We know that the Rapture will happen before the Tribulation period, and that day of wrath is approaching faster than few of us can even imagine. It’s not easy to fully grasp just how quickly our world will change in the twinkling of an eye.
If the calendar flips to October in a few weeks, I will continue to watch for Jesus’ appearing as though it could happen at any time. I hope and pray that the Rapture happens in 2025, but I have no guarantee that it will.
www.jonathanbrentner.com
It’s with a bit of trepidation that I address the buildup of excitement regarding the possibility of the Rapture occurring on September 23 or 24, 2025, during the Feast of Trumpets. I recognize it’s a sensitive subject for many and sadly, it has caused controversy and even division within the body of Christ.
Let me begin by saying that based on what I have read or seen on social media, most of us who are excited about the possibility of a September Rapture are not saying it will happen during this year’s Feast of Trumpets. We avoid date-setting and agree that it’s wrong to do so. We recognize that such failed predictions in the past have placed an unwelcome stigma on those of us who yearn for Jesus’ soon appearing.
On the other hand, this month’s UN activities have unmistakable implications in terms of Bible prophecy. There’s already been a vote with the wide majority of nations favoring the recognition a Palestinian state, which would divide the Land that God gave to the descendants of Jacob. The Bible long ago said that such activity would mark the last days as well as spark the Lord’s anger (Joel 3:1-3; Zechariah 12:1-3). A year or two ago, I thought that the current determined and widespread clamoring among the nations to divide Israel and Jerusalem would not happen until after the Rapture, but it’s already here.
Besides that, the words “peace and security” will repeatedly reverberate through the chambers of the UN building during its September 2025 assembly. In 1 Thessalonians 5:1-3, Paul wrote that the “sudden destruction” of the Day of the Lord would fall on the unbelieving world while people are saying “peace and security.”
Is it possible that the Lord might visibly respond to this year’s rancor at the UN, which will reach its peak next week beginning on September 22? Could the Rapture happen during this year’s celebration of the Feast of Trumpets?
The Rapture and Rosh Hashanah
Jesus fulfilled the first four “feasts of the Lord,” recorded in Leviticus 23:4-22, during His first appearing. As such, many students of Bible prophecy believe He will fulfill the remaining three festivals during His future return to the earth. Rosh Hashanah, or the Feast of Trumpets, is next in line awaiting fulfillment.Several prophecy experts believe that the Rapture will fulfill Rosh Hashanah. Bible prophecy scholar and author, Arnold G. Fruchtenbaum, wrote the following in his comprehensive work, The Footsteps of the Messiah, concerning the “last trump” of 1 Corinthians 15:52:
“The last trump refers to the Feast of Trumpets and the Jewish practice of blowing shofars during the feast. There are a series of short trumpet sounds followed by one long trumpet blast which is called the tekiah gedolah, “the great trumpet blast.” As such, it says nothing concerning the timing of the rapture; only that the rapture, whenever it occurs, will fulfill the Feast of Trumpets.”
I agree with Dr. Fruchtenbaum. It’s my belief that whether or not the Rapture occurs during God’s set time of this feast, Jesus will fulfill Rosh Hashana when He comes to take us home. As such, I understand the excitement and anticipation that Jesus might come for His Church during Israel’s celebration of it. There’s also a precedent for such an anticipation.
Jesus fulfilled the previous feasts during the appointed time God set for them. And since the Day of Atonement and Feasts of Booths await a future fulfillment, we do not yet know if the Lord will fulfill them at the time set for them in Leviticus 23:26-43.
I believe Zechariah 12:10-13:1 records what will happen during the future fulfillment of the Day of Atonement when the Jewish people see Jesus for who He is, their Messiah, and repent. Could this happen, or perhaps begin, on the day set for this observance in the Old Testament? I think so.
For those who agree that the Rapture fulfills the Feast of Trumpets but tell us it’s unlikely to happen this month, please understand the perspective that says it just might happen during the Feast of Trumpets. There is a precedent for Jesus fulfilling the feasts during the time God set for them.
If you expect to meet to Jesus in the air later this month, please do not conclude that it must occur on September 23 or 24. Even if it’s the Lord’s intention for the Rapture to happen on Rosh Hoshana, we do not know if it will be this year or even if the current Jewish calendar matches God’s.
Even so, is it not a time for heightened watchfulness?
A Time for Heightened Watchfulness
Regardless of whether the Rapture happens later this month or not, we surely live in the season of Jesus’ appearing. Based on all that’s happened in the world during the past several years, I thought we would’ve been in Heaven watching Jesus opens the seal judgments long before now. The only explanation for the delay, from our perspective, is the restraining force of the Holy Spirit and God’s patience as He continues to warn of the devastation that’s already at our doorstep.Along with the Lord instructing His followers to always watch and be ready for His return (Matthew 24:36-25:13), He also spoke of a future time of heightened anticipation in Luke 21:28, “But when these things begin to happen, stand up and lift up your heads, because your redemption is near.”
In the context of instructing His disciples about the many signs that would mark the days leading up to His return, Jesus referred to a time when these signs would become so pronounced that believers would recognize the nearness of their “redemption” and watch for it all the more intently by lifting up their heads in anticipation of Jesus’ appearing. Without a doubt, we live during that time.
There has never been such a convergence of signs pointing to the nearness of the Tribulation such as we see today. The multitude of signs, all happening at once, signifies that we are ever so close to the time we will meet Jesus in the air. We may not even have tomorrow let alone the remainder of September. It is a time for added vigilance in watching for our Lord’s return, just as He said in Luke 21:26.
The shocking assassination of Charlie Kirk underscores the nature of the widespread lawlessness and violence in our world, which the Bible long ago predicted would mark the days leading up to Jesus’ appearing. The stunning news of Charlie’s murder shouts with the message that we live in the fleeting moments leading up to our sudden departure. In the hours and days after hearing about his death, I felt a deep sadness along with what I might describe as a gnawing feeling deep in my soul.
Regardless of what we believe about Rosh Hoshana or its fulfillment in the Rapture, we all agree that the time is exceedingly short until Jesus takes us, His true Church, home to glory. We know that the Rapture will happen before the Tribulation period, and that day of wrath is approaching faster than few of us can even imagine. It’s not easy to fully grasp just how quickly our world will change in the twinkling of an eye.
If the calendar flips to October in a few weeks, I will continue to watch for Jesus’ appearing as though it could happen at any time. I hope and pray that the Rapture happens in 2025, but I have no guarantee that it will.
September Rapture: Hype or Hope? — Jonathan Brentner
From what I have read or seen on social media, most of us who are excited about the possibility of a September Rapture are not saying it will happen during this Feast of Trumpets. We avoid date-setting and agree that it’s wrong. We know that such failed predictions of the past have placed an unwel
www.jonathanbrentner.com
Excellent article!
1LoverofGod
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The Lord is not slack concerning His promise, as some count slackness, but is longsuffering toward us, not willing that any should perish but that all should come to repentance
2 Peter 3:9
2 Peter 3:9
LightOfMyLife
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Hoping that the last person be saved will be very soon so we can go home. 
ing that our Blessed Hope is drawing near.
ing that our Blessed Hope is drawing near.
Amethyst
† He hath shed his own blood for my soul
Amen.Hoping that the last person be saved will be very soon so we can go home.
