I tend to view the spiritual/political landscape as critical in regards to Israel. If we believers are hindering the AC lawlessness and antisemitism, it seems believers worldwide influence the US as an AC deterrent. When we’re gone Israel will face a world of maximum lawlessness and antisemitism. They may not currently be in a place to humbly turn to Jesus. If Israel experiences a lull in war & chaos, a time of peace & safety, maybe they can come to their senses?
On the other hand, God can both remove believers soon and give Israel a time of peace and safety.
Besides, I don’t want my son and his family to face the 7yr trib
Hollie, I love you dear sister. Be we seem to have different horses and our carriages are arranged differently too. I am trying to think of a funny way of saying that without it sounding bad. So blame the late evening on my lack of creativity. And how lame what i just said sounds...lol.
The way you are seeing it dear sister may indeed be the way to see it. But i'ma gonna be over here banging my head on this stump over here. What i mean by that is in comparison my senses might seem as one merely banging their head on a stump. So like i said, lack of creativity going on here...lol.
But where we share a really tight hug is: I tend to view the spiritual/political landscape as critical in regards to Israel. Yes and amen!!!
But after this where i would tend not to shift is things about AC or things about how it might look for Israel in relation to bad world vibes. The reason I might not is because i refer to your former statement: I tend to view the spiritual/political landscape as critical in regards to Israel. Let's call that statement SPLCRI. Really bad non-creative acronym to perfectly fit my ready for bed head. Then, I would be an SPLCRI Absolutist. Where factoring in what i might try and see in what may be real or folklore prophetic views can't enter. Nor stances on the AC.
Now my reason for this is because if i see the AC in the corner of my eye, I feel like i am no longer an SPLCRI absolutist. And i'm kinda cheating on my view....lol. Or if i see what might or might not be the condition for Israel in the corner of my eye as some measure of filler (maybe in some cases the idea could be considered, a gap?) I feel like i am no longer a proud card caring member of SPLCRI. So i guess in a way i am saying i agree with you so much that i agree with you more than you do...lol. Sorry. That had to be somewhat creative, right? This means i will have smoother dreams
cool.
But yeah so I am just saying in a playful way that it would be my understanding, now this is coming from the really dry and boring me, that Israel can tend to serve as a floatation device in the midst of whatever calamity our perspectives (meaning evangelicalism in general) might prime us in having our trays in an upright position/seat belts on. The problem with Israel being a floatation devices though is that it might tend to drift down stream a bit. Then it becomes Israel over there by the car wash. Or Israel over there by the picnic table. It becomes Israel in accords with a port rather than a port according to Israel.
Well that may sound silly in expression. But i guess all i am saying is that the tendency seems to be in eschatology "this" or "that" and the "other thing" and oh yeah...+a side dish of Israel. And instead though dear sister i think YOUR own wording is far more accurate.
- Spiritual Landscape
- Political Landscape
"In regards to Israel."
Or the true absolutist might phrase it this way: Anything political or spiritual we think is going on, first put Israel in front of all that so as only to merely see those things slightly shimmering off the shoulders of Israel. Where politics and understood spiritual trends are the after thought. Only a silhouette of Israel. But when said that way, would that be also how it might seem in one way or another in your view dear sister? I believe you in part or in whole might mean that. But i am asking because of another question: Do we see anyone doing that? Now for sure if I am missing something please help me understand better. Because i would like to if i am. But are there views out there where Israel eclipses the AC or political trends? If so, how so might that be though?
Because for me, its more like whatever we think spiritually lets say about revelation trends or Daniel trends, or beast system trends etc...might we see them according to Israel first (instead of America first, like?). Ok that i think was a good one. And on the end note of hopeful some measure of playful creativity...i retire. Mega blessings Hollie. Always so rich a joy to share hearts online amen.
BUT WAIT...yeah even so i'm not trying to ignore the rest. So there i'd just say that for me there is only one way for me to receive this. Yes, that is selfish. lol. And probably a bit knuckleheaded. But for the sake of literary device, I don't have ten horns...i have ten knuckles up there i tell yeah. But the decoder ring here for all my madness is that it is too difficult for me to accept a rapture that is not also offered to Israel uniquely. Now i bet its never been stated like that before. Again, please blame it on a night cap moment. But the ground swell surrounding the Character of God so defining Israel in our day, and His known character concerning them AND His church, just would not make sense if Israel does not get a heads up (this close to the tribulation) from God to consider rapturing with the church.
By that i don't mean that Israel as a nation stands a chance to believe before the rapture. For they will remain hardened until the Sign of the Son Man i believe in Revelation (except for the 144k reps and those Jews won along the way by them...amen). Outside of that on this side of age of grace or the other...Israel remains hard. But in their hardness, see this is the awesome thing about being and absolutist i tell ya, we absolutists are so stuck up against the wall, that the splendor of age of grace irony might likely be most displayed in a super hardened Israel that God Himself uses like a pillar of cloud by day prophetically to the degree it would seem only possible had Israel been believing to begin with. Well, this is the sorry state of the hopeless absolutist
But on Taco Tuesday we are trained to set up our little chair and our little table and our little sign that reads: Israel stays hardened but used by God majestically in end age of grace as if they were not--prove me wrong). And then we just stair straight ahead like we ready or something. But the trick is see its taco Tuesday. And so really what that is is a fake out. Because instead we just down a ton of tacos.
So that is suppose to be metaphor for for (double on purpose because it is late), there is no way to prove wrong or right here...but like what might be your best sense that the way things go is more hatred for Israel in the world perhaps more than their injecting economically unconquerable steroids? Or are you of that school across the street that has that 2 for one sale going on? Where Israel likely becomes as much hated as they become practically an empire? If so that would actually be a great question. I'm not sure i have heard that view before. But is that what you are saying? lol. Ahh,,,can't type anymore. Ok now...blessings
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