Interesting video from MonkeyWerx today

[Margery]

I Sent the picture of his avatar to a man I once worked for an actual Green Beret from Vietnam days. He confirmed that the gear was not real military and the guy in the picture looked like a dufus. When I started digging into him and trying to match things to his bio I was finding that things did not match up. His claims while at times were not false in fact there was a lot of exaggeration going on, like a garbage man calling himself a sanitation engineer. Then there was the fact that when QAnon dried up he dumped his channels from that time where he went by the name milspec Ops Monkey and changed over to MonkeyWerx. I did another check at that time and found many former military lambasting him. Some of them I reached out to and asked their work in the service so I could likely know if what they were saying was legit and matched to what I already found out. About 85% were legit because talkign with vets we tend to know who is real and who is not, who is honest about their work in the service and who is fudging because their job does not sound glamorous.

Lastly it was his insistence on using a lot of military lingo instead of common terms, something fakers tend to do a lot to sound like they are more than they are. Generally most vets I know and know me we rarely use military lingo in our discussions except if we are talking about some piece of equipment for which there is no normal word in plain English for that. So there were a lot of signs he was nothing of what he implied with his internet name and his old avatar.

That makes sense. And it lines up with the times when I have felt he's overstating his case a bit or getting into the conspiracy side of things too heavily. And yes, you are quite right about the fact vets rarely use jargon from work outside of work.

Like I said, a stopped clock is right twice a day. Which was why I wanted opinions on him.

 

[Shinobi]

Like I said, a stopped clock is right twice a day

I have often thought of this old saying. It never set right with me. Yes what ever time it is stopped on does come around twice a day but, on the other hand if you have no other way of telling time, when you looked at the stopped clock you don't know if it is one of those two times or not. That means there is a 99.86% it is lying to you. out of 24 hours with 60 minutes to each hour you have a total of 1440 minutes in a day. If it is only right 2 minutes in 1440 then those numbers don't favor the clock telling you the right time with any real accuracy. Heaven help us all if that time comes between 2 - 3 am because one day it is right only one time and that is when we go to daylight savings time and we lose that hour and then it is right 3 times at the end of the year when we get it back. Still with three times, the percentage of our chances that it is lying to us from 99.86% to 99.79%. Then there is the question how many people walk around with a broken watch because it is right twice a day? I would say only a mentally deranged person does that. The rest of the world generally wears no watch or gets a new one that works.

So I have never been good with that old saying. Just does not make sense to me to rely on something with that poor accuracy.

 

[Hol]

But what was really bad was when he changed over and was fast to connect up with a bunch of lay ministers with YT channels, people he probably met via QAnon. Prior to that he appeared to have no interest in the things of God and suddenly when Christian Nationalism started to grow he was all over it because he had lost so many followers following the fall of the QAnon site.

This is an important insight.

I pay attention to James Lindsay when it comes to Christian Nationalists. He is really good at smoking them out of their webs of deceit. On his X page he'll criticize a CN and some folks go into emotional breakdown. They spew outrage when he uses a phrase 'woke right' because they are not aware of CN. Many think that everyone on the right can not possibly be 'woke'.

Here's an intro for James Lindsay, for any who are interested: - YouTube

 

[Margery]

I have often thought of this old saying. It never set right with me. Yes what ever time it is stopped on does come around twice a day but, on the other hand if you have no other way of telling time, when you looked at the stopped clock you don't know if it is one of those two times or not. That means there is a 99.86% it is lying to you. out of 24 hours with 60 minutes to each hour you have a total of 1440 minutes in a day. If it is only right 2 minutes in 1440 then those numbers don't favor the clock telling you the right time with any real accuracy. Heaven help us all if that time comes between 2 - 3 am because one day it is right only one time and that is when we go to daylight savings time and we lose that hour and then it is right 3 times at the end of the year when we get it back. Still with three times, the percentage of our chances that it is lying to us from 99.86% to 99.79%. Then there is the question how many people walk around with a broken watch because it is right twice a day? I would say only a mentally deranged person does that. The rest of the world generally wears no watch or gets a new one that works.

So I have never been good with that old saying. Just does not make sense to me to rely on something with that poor accuracy.

It may help to know the context of how that saying is used and how I use it.

The idea goes like this. A stopped clock is useless, for all the reasons you outline.

In fact that is the point of the saying.

Because it is useless, the few times something is right- ie the twice a day part of the saying cannot make it reliable. It is the exact opposite of reliable, it is deceptive BECAUSE sometimes it appears correct.

It means that if you trust it because it's right twice a day you are in worse shape than if you realize it is completely broken and unable to tell time at all.

THEREFORE it is more deceptive than something that is wrong all the time.

Because it carries the illusion of being right some of the time.

And the application of that saying goes to help people struggling with false prophets like for example Nostradamus or any fortune teller anywhere. They warm up their act with something that applies to 90% of people 90% of the time say-- something like I know you like a hot drink on a cold day (I'm exaggerating a bit for emphasis here) and the poor deluded soul that went to the fortune teller now applies the perception of accuracy to everything else they say.

I hope that helps.

That saying is basically communicating the fact that even if a false prophet/ stopped clock/ person writing an otherwise interesting article is right on one or two counts, it doesn't mean they are right on all counts.

@Shinobi I think you might be a literal thinker. People who think like that have difficulty with these sorts of sayings and it's something I sympathize with. For me as a little girl I had terrible trouble on exams because I didn't realize the questions related to the 80% of times that a generalization would apply. Not the 20% of exceptions to the rule. I hated the lack of precision in the early grades when it came to exams. The questions were too broadly worded. My teachers hated me calling them over to explain what seemed obvious to them. Gradually I began to think in probabilities and it helped me with generalizations and analogies such as the clock above.

 

[Shinobi]

It may help to know the context of how that saying is used and how I use it.

The idea goes like this. A stopped clock is useless, for all the reasons you outline.

In fact that is the point of the saying.

Because it is useless, the few times something is right- ie the twice a day part of the saying cannot make it reliable. It is the exact opposite of reliable, it is deceptive BECAUSE sometimes it appears correct.

It means that if you trust it because it's right twice a day you are in worse shape than if you realize it is completely broken and unable to tell time at all.

THEREFORE it is more deceptive than something that is wrong all the time.

Because it carries the illusion of being right some of the time.

And the application of that saying goes to help people struggling with false prophets like for example Nostradamus or any fortune teller anywhere. They warm up their act with something that applies to 90% of people 90% of the time say-- something like I know you like a hot drink on a cold day (I'm exaggerating a bit for emphasis here) and the poor deluded soul that went to the fortune teller now applies the perception of accuracy to everything else they say.

I hope that helps.

That saying is basically communicating the fact that even if a false prophet/ stopped clock/ person writing an otherwise interesting article is right on one or two counts, it doesn't mean they are right on all counts.

@Shinobi I think you might be a literal thinker. People who think like that have difficulty with these sorts of sayings and it's something I sympathize with. For me as a little girl I had terrible trouble on exams because I didn't realize the questions related to the 80% of times that a generalization would apply. Not the 20% of exceptions to the rule. I hated the lack of precision in the early grades when it came to exams. The questions were too broadly worded. My teachers hated me calling them over to explain what seemed obvious to them. Gradually I began to think in probabilities and it helped me with generalizations and analogies such as the clock above.

Literal thinker? More like a literal clown which I did that job for about 10 years delivering balloons. No I am what my Mom called a word smith. She tought me to be that with silly poems and songs. She was a fanatic for complex word jokes that you had to think about. I picked it up from her. Here is a few examples of some of those poems:

Ruth rode on my cycle car,
Directly back of me.
We hit a bump at 65,
And rode on Ruthlessly.

What a wonderful bird is the pelican,
His beak can hold more than his belly can.
He can hold in his beak enough food for a weak.
And sometimes I wonder how the hell he can.

I over think to find the comedy in things said.