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@Andy C is the most pro-Trump voice on the forum
I dont think so, but I do agree with your lists.

I think too many well intentioned Christians expect Trump to govern from a Biblical prophetic perspective. When some of his positions seem to not be aligned with prophecy, many criticize him. However, how is a President supposed to let the bible guide him on prophecy when even the leading end times biblical scholars we all listen to cant agree on prophecy?

I also have followed closely for decades foreign policy, and how countries are often forced to work with enemies in order to achieve a specific goal. This is another area some, even on the right, disagree with a few of Trumps deals he has made with other countries. He has to deal with the world as it is, not how we wish the world to be.

I simply have learned to tolerate his personality, even though I would’ve never raised my kids to be like him.

I would rather have a super arrogant leader who is not afraid to make the tough decisions, then a well mannered soft spoken President who is only interested in the polls.
 
Why can't we have a well-mannered President, who isn't afraid to make the tough decisions? *maisey* :stirpot:
Can you name a past President (exception possibly Reagan) who fit the bill as described by you who was successful?

Hopefully, there wont be any future American Presidents to compare with Trump, or at least for the church to see because we could be long gone before the next election.
 
I think it's good to remember that Trump was a reluctant President.
He talked about it for decades when someone brought it up, but he always said it would be last resort. He never desired to be POTUS. Consistently, he said, it's "not what I want to do, even though I should and I'd be good at it."
He felt like he HAD to run, or this country was going to pot.

How many born again Christians do each of us completely get along with, outside the Holy Spirit's supernatural love for others?

We ourselves are all sinners with weird personality quirks and problems.

1 Corinthians 1:26
For consider your calling, brothers: not many of you were wise according to worldly standards, not many were powerful, not many were of noble birth.
 
I would rather have a super arrogant leader who is not afraid to make the tough decisions, then a well mannered soft spoken President who is only interested in the polls.
You are also a solid conservative voter.
I would never support a Dem under any circumstances. That's my beliefs. Maybe in the decades before I was born they were "ok", not these days, never.
It matters what your beliefs are politcally of whether you'll support him.

Rigid tight border enforcement was my main selling point for Trump from the get-go. Some people don't believe in that.
That's what separated him from Ted Cruz for me.
 
You are also a solid conservative voter.
I would never support a Dem under any circumstances. That's my beliefs. Maybe in the decades before I was born they were "ok", not these days, never.
It matters what your beliefs are politcally of whether you'll support him.

Rigid tight border enforcement was my main selling point for Trump from the get-go. Some people don't believe in that.
That's what separated him from Ted Cruz for me.

Politics has changed over the years. Some places are much dirtier than others, and some eras are much dirtier than others. There's a huge difference between local through State level offices and the national-level offices. Third party candidates can and do get elected all the way up to Governor in some states, like Minnesota.
 
Can you name a past President (exception possibly Reagan) who fit the bill as described by you who was successful?

Hopefully, there wont be any future American Presidents to compare with Trump, or at least for the church to see because we could be long gone before the next election.

Politics aside . . .

Pretty much all of the modern Presidents before President Trump had decent manners in public (for the most part). I can say first-hand that Presidents Eisenhower, Ford, Carter, Bush, and W did. From what I've seen and been told, Presidents Truman, Kennedy, and Nixon were class acts in public, as well. I felt sorry for Hillary.
 
I dont think so, but I do agree with your lists.

I think too many well intentioned Christians expect Trump to govern from a Biblical prophetic perspective. When some of his positions seem to not be aligned with prophecy, many criticize him. However, how is a President supposed to let the bible guide him on prophecy when even the leading end times biblical scholars we all listen to cant agree on prophecy?

I also have followed closely for decades foreign policy, and how countries are often forced to work with enemies in order to achieve a specific goal. This is another area some, even on the right, disagree with a few of Trumps deals he has made with other countries. He has to deal with the world as it is, not how we wish the world to be.

I simply have learned to tolerate his personality, even though I would’ve never raised my kids to be like him.

I would rather have a super arrogant leader who is not afraid to make the tough decisions, then a well mannered soft spoken President who is only interested in the polls.
One of the things I really really like about him is his habit of speaking the truth, without holding back. I may disagree with him but I'm never in doubt about where he stands.

He says the "quiet part" out loud for everyone to hear, think about and respond to. What a relief that is!

He has the courage to tell the UN for example that they are going to hell due to their stance regarding Israel. YES AND AMEN DONALD!

I may not appreciate his constant desire to annex Canada, but he's at least honest about his intentions which makes it easier to respond to. He wasn't joking, even if the media thought so at first. It's all out in the open to deal with.

For the first time EVER he's forced the other NATO countries including my own to get serious and pay their way. Really like that. I find it interesting how that is playing into the Ezek 38 set up as well as getting Rome 2.0 ready to rumble for the Trib.

I don't agree with tariffs- I'm on the side of Ronald Reagan there, but this is going better than I thought.

I think it's put the nations into fast forward and we see more Rome 2.0 stuff as economic alliances are reforming in the wake of the tariffs.

Those trade agreements that are formed with the USA are done with a lot more realism- knowing that at any point either side can break the agreement for national reasons. That comes with some risk because the bigger partner can force things, but that was happening ANYWAY.

If a certain amount of extortion is involved, let's get real, this is just happening out in public whereas before the kickbacks and payments to get a good deal were often glossed over. Japan and South Korea are able to say no they aren't about to pay what Lutnick and Trump demanded in terms of cash. If they don't pay, will there be a trade deal surviving? Maybe maybe not. But it's all out in the open.


Trump is allowing a rise in nationalism among all the countries, including his own. Putting one's own country FIRST is not a bad thing at all.

Do I think he's the best thing since sliced bread, NOPE!

But he is introducing some fresh air into some areas that could use it.



And in other areas, maybe it's time for the American voters to decide what's ok and what's not.

Can a president make business deals that benefit him and his family and friends on the side, while conducting business on behalf of the country?

Because Biden did it and the only people talking about the way Biden and his son were benefiting were the Right wing. Now a lot of the Right wing are silent, while Trump does similar things (although not with the crime cartels the way Biden did in the Ukraine) and the Left are going to town on that topic. Both sides need to get together and figure out what's allowable and what isn't, because whatever else goes on, Trump is testing the boundaries.

And while that's being discussed, the Constitution might need amending. Trump's been pushing some boundaries there too, and the legality of some actions needs to be worked out in front of the courts. Freedom of speech, Tariffs, taxes, Posse Comitatus act, what the President can and cannot do - what stays in Congress's area, what is allowed with the President.

Whether it's Trump or some future president, some of the Constitutional areas that he's been pushing the limits of --might need better definitions or even some amendments.

Before a really bad president gets elected from the Left and does whatever he wants. Because should the Lord tarry, that too is coming!

So while I don't agree with some of the stuff, and I will continue to say so, I DO agree with a lot of other stuff Trump does, and will continue to say so.

For the record I don't expect him to behave like a Christian whether or not he is one.

He is representing the whole country, he serves the voters who are the real owners of the USA. The owners get to decide whether he's representing them well. All the owners. From both sides of the aisle. Just like any other democratic country whether it's a Constitutional Republic or a Parliamentary Democracy.

I agree with you - how on earth can we expect a leader to follow the "rules' when even Christians can't always decide on them. He has to deal with the world the way it IS, not how we wish it was.
 
With very few exceptions --I'm thinking Eisenhower, Truman, Nixon and Reagan-- previous modern presidents were smooth and kind on the outside while actually being sneaky, crass, and self-serving behind the scenes. They polished the patina of civility while practicing the art of deception ... in order to stay in power and to serve those whom they owed. Trump is refreshing. He is what you see. Nothing hidden. He loves America and people in general. He has a kind and generous heart and genuine concern for those truly in need. And he owes nobody anything. He would be a great man were it not for his personal flaws, chiefly his ego. But I am very, very glad that he is the president of this nation at this time in history.
 
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