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Furious Trump cancels 'all trade negotiations' with Canada after TV advert

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Donald Trump has announced that he is ending "all trade negotiations" with Canada.

The move is in retaliation for a TV advert in Ontario that opposed US tariffs - and on Truth Social, the president claimed it was factually incorrect.


He wrote: "They only did this to interfere with the decision of the US Supreme Court, and other courts.

"TARIFFS ARE VERY IMPORTANT TO THE NATIONAL SECURITY, AND ECONOMY, OF THE U.S.A.

"Based on their egregious behaviour, ALL TRADE NEGOTIATIONS WITH CANADA ARE HEREBY TERMINATED."


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1: It wasn't doctored. The quotes from Reagan are true- they are historical fact. I was quoting Reagan regarding Tariffs back in late April early May from that same speech.

2: It was NOT done by Canada, it was done by a Premier of the province of Ontario.

He does NOT speak for Canada- he speaks for Ontario which has been particularly hard hit with the steel, aluminum and car industries. A lot of workers that are now looking for other employment.

Rather like the Kentucky distillers whose industry is particularly hard hit after the Canadian boycott from Trump's demands that we become his "cherished 51st State". Who knew we drank all the booze out of Kentucky? :lol: I sure didn't until the distillers took out ads begging us to quit with the boycott. Oh and those ads? Most of Canada feels sorry for them, and wishes it hadn't got to this.

While it was tactless of Doug Ford, it is true. Reagan said those words, in that context.

That demand to annex Canada

-(why is that ok? but quoting Reagan isn't?)

That demand to annex Canada- actually interfered in our elections, but most Americans persisted in seeing it as a joke. Canadians were supposed to take it in stride, laugh along and ignore another country threatening us.

If Russia or China threatened America would you laugh? When it's repeated, over and over would you still laugh it off?



Now when a provincial leader (equivalent to a governor like Gavin Newsome of California) takes out an ad quoting Reagan the world comes to an end?

I highly doubt that it would swing the Supreme Court the way Trump's actions swung our last election. We survived losing our best hope of a conservative leader in decades.

He will survive the Supreme Court deciding whether or not the Tariffs are constitutional. For the record I think he will win that case.

I suggest that everyone take Doug Ford like the rest of Canada does- one who opens his mouth to change feet.


And speaking of Gavin in California and some other States Governors - they take out ads all the time in Canada begging our tourists to come back etc but we don't treat it like an act of war. Any more than the Kentucky distillers. We feel sympathy for them. This is not easy.

Trump needs to take a chill pill! And own up to his part in the mess between our countries.

Sadly @Tall Timbers observation above is very true. We are 1/10th your size. We will take a horrific hit from this because Trump is thin skinned, and will take it out of what he sees as his enemies (which he has seen Canada as from day 1 sadly) to the last drop of satisfaction.
 
Definitely! I was thinking the same thing and also am not happy with his stance on forbidding Israel to annex Judea and Samaria. Trump has done a lot of good things for this country but he is wrong on both of these in my opinion.
He HAS done a LOT of good, totally agree. I'm sad to see him reacting like this but he is remarkably thin skinned - he can dish it out but he just can't take it.

When he was elected, I rejoiced. I saw him as a force for good, and someone who would champion conservative values. I saw him as a friend and an ally. I prayed that he would win. I would have voted for him if I lived down south and had the legal right to do so. (heheheh living somewhere doesn't confer the rights to vote, something that the illegals need to be reminded of)

He seems a bit different than the guy I remember in his first term. Maybe it's age catching up to him. It sure is catching up to the rest of us.

I still pray for him and I still want him to succeed. But it's moments like this that I want to reach out across the miles and bop him with a wet fish!
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1: It wasn't doctored. The quotes from Reagan are true- they are historical fact. I was quoting Reagan regarding Tariffs back in late April early May from that same speech.

2: It was NOT done by Canada, it was done by a Premier of the province of Ontario.

He does NOT speak for Canada- he speaks for Ontario which has been particularly hard hit with the steel, aluminum and car industries. A lot of workers that are now looking for other employment.

Rather like the Kentucky distillers whose industry is particularly hard hit after the Canadian boycott from Trump's demands that we become his "cherished 51st State". Who knew we drank all the booze out of Kentucky? :lol: I sure didn't until the distillers took out ads begging us to quit with the boycott. Oh and those ads? Most of Canada feels sorry for them, and wishes it hadn't got to this.

While it was tactless of Doug Ford, it is true. Reagan said those words, in that context.

That demand to annex Canada

-(why is that ok? but quoting Reagan isn't?)

That demand to annex Canada- actually interfered in our elections, but most Americans persisted in seeing it as a joke. Canadians were supposed to take it in stride, laugh along and ignore another country threatening us.

If Russia or China threatened America would you laugh? When it's repeated, over and over would you still laugh it off?



Now when a provincial leader (equivalent to a governor like Gavin Newsome of California) takes out an ad quoting Reagan the world comes to an end?

I highly doubt that it would swing the Supreme Court the way Trump's actions swung our last election. We survived losing our best hope of a conservative leader in decades.

He will survive the Supreme Court deciding whether or not the Tariffs are constitutional. For the record I think he will win that case.

I suggest that everyone take Doug Ford like the rest of Canada does- one who opens his mouth to change feet.


And speaking of Gavin in California and some other States Governors - they take out ads all the time in Canada begging our tourists to come back etc but we don't treat it like an act of war. Any more than the Kentucky distillers. We feel sympathy for them. This is not easy.

Trump needs to take a chill pill! And own up to his part in the mess between our countries.

Sadly @Tall Timbers observation above is very true. We are 1/10th your size. We will take a horrific hit from this because Trump is thin skinned, and will take it out of what he sees as his enemies (which he has seen Canada as from day 1 sadly) to the last drop of satisfaction.
According to the Reagan Library, Canada doctored the video by distorting the former Presidents words. Selective editing.

Bad move by my northern friends.

Time to pay for all the tariffs Canada placed on the USA.
 
According to the Reagan Library, Canada doctored the video by distorting the former Presidents words. Selective editing.

Bad move by my northern friends.

Time to pay for all the tariffs Canada placed on the USA.
I watched the entire 5 mins of Reagans remarks. Canada did show correct excerpts. However, Reagan also emphasized trade must be fair.

If one country has been over charging another country with higher tariffs, then that is not fair trade, as apparently Canada has been doing to the US for many years.

Im betting that both countries will work this out to reach a fair agreement quickly.
 
According to the Reagan Library, Canada doctored the video by distorting the former Presidents words. Selective editing.

Bad move by my northern friends.

Time to pay for all the tariffs Canada placed on the USA.
I watched the whole thing too. Reagan was dealing with an unfair practice in Japan when he reluctantly applied tariffs. Reagan didn't like tariffs except in exceptional circumstances and he used them reluctantly and judiciously. To which I say fair enough.

I'd like to know why Ontario was supposed to include the whole speech when they pay by the second for a commercial. Especially when there is reams of evidence that Reagan was against tariffs. I don't think that qualifies as misrepresentation.

I agree it was a bad move, I thought it was needless and tactless to take out that ad in the first place, but Doug Ford as I said, opens mouth to change feet.

We can't control him, you can't control Trump.

Let the chips fall where they may. There is stuff we CAN control, and stuff we can't.

Not worth fighting over.



In the end it is the American consumer that pays the final costs of all these tariffs. It is a consumption tax by any other name.

You pay the final costs to the US govt, you get to determine what works best for you and your markets. That is fair, and I agree with that. He who pays the piper calls the tune!

As Reagan pointed out, markets adapt and money and goods flow elsewhere.




Were you aware that Trump has been misquoting the actual tariffs that Canada has actually never charged?

We have never even once applied the 400% that he talks about all the time.

That was set as a penalty on dairy for flooding our markets- we have quotas on our farmers and the Americans have had access without penalty. They have a quota just like our farmers do- they compete head to head. They don't like the quota system, but it's what our farmers have to cope with too. I buy American organic yogurt all the time, there is no tariff on it. That 400% penalty has never had to be applied.

We dropped our other tariffs a while back, the ones we put on to retaliate for the ones you put on our stuff. It was around the time that Doug Ford floated the idea of cutting off electricity exports to the US. Carney stopped him from that bone headed move, but to placate Trump we took off the other retaliatory tariffs.



I don't pay tariffs on US dairy that I buy (organic yogurt from Washington State, grits by Bob's Red Mill, Natures Path organic cereal, clothes from LLBean, oranges from florida, cotton socks by Hanes, makeup by Merit of Los Angeles, or skin care by Peter Thomas Roth of New York to name a few) so I don't know what tariffs you are talking about.

Our son bought a huge Ford truck brand new, then son in law did the same, neither paid a dime of tariffs. (those things are expensive enough to begin with)


Before Reagan did free trade American goods were way too expensive. Textiles, clothes, books, manufactured goods. I remember paying import duties and the appropriate taxes back in the 80s (that was a tariff).

Reagan and free trade took that out, and consequently I bought a lot of American stuff since then. I'd be sad to see that change, but we will weather this storm somehow.




Trump will do what he needs to do, we will do what we need to do. It'll settle out eventually.

Short term this will be hard, but you'll get there.

So will we.

If the Lord tarries this could work out better economically for Canada as well as the USA because we will both be more self sufficient. Meanwhile we are both doing our best.
 
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