INTRO
Thanks ladies for your thoughtful comments on this thread. I'm going to post an article here if its ok. I will explain why below. But first, I would like to take this opportunity to break something down a bit in light of views shared here in this thread. I would like to hopefully make some clearer distinctions to consider that may not come to be represented much or made even aware that they might be as such consideration worthy. But from what I have seen over the years are somewhat, to me, precious like gold…potentially. The following are themes I don’t see made very often. But have had to come to discover for myself to some degree or another over some banging of head against the wall like seasons.
Yes, it would be folly to place hope in MAGA philosophy or politicians, amen. But I would suggest a few differences here from how I have painstakingly somewhat had to have my face rearranged over (metaphorically) to discover.
Perhaps things at this point are going to get likely a wee bit more complicated politically in our world. Our age can tend to feel like we are walking down a dark alley and our close to home/heart views and perspectives become somewhat seemingly jumped by not so well detailed foreign ideologies. An example: The Clintons Turning Themselves In.
THESIS
@Margery I agree with your stated concerns here. As also with
@Cheeky200386 . And I understand that on some level, if the globalists don’t need the Clinton’s anymore they will be sacrificed. I also agree that globalism has deep roots into the conservative perspective, as you have well noticed in the Bush’s, amen. So the globalists infiltrate either side in the event the political pendulum swings. Good defensive strategy for them. But what I would like to uncover a bit more here in this post is more along the lines of why the pendulum is swinging conservatively, and some perhaps foreign features in all that, that, can tell a unique story possibly outside the lines.
Through the philosophical stubbing-of-toe moments that had occurred to me (confused as to what to make of this or that, socio-politically/prophetically) all along the sociopolitical/prophetic pathways presented to us in no short order since 2016, I have slowly come to believe that in order to wrap our arms around what to make of all the mess as something helpfully clarifying—and something comfortably real and clear enough to let into the house, would likely reside outside the layers of common bias, though. Something maybe challenging to us even "by design" to greet our age's biases (secular and church) "specifically." Tailor made perhaps even. with said bias slaying in mind.
So what I am interested to look at and hopful to display is:
(a) Why the conservative shift
(b) What said shift references for globalism
(c) How walking back biases may be key for clearest observation
THE HOPEFUL DEMYSTIFYING OF BIAS
Globalism as the Grand Architect -- In the masonic world the creator is the grand architect in masonic thinking. And is not the God we know of, the One responsible for creation. But as far as “children of the grand architect,” think, I don't exactly believe that globalism (or the masons) have as much a grip as we can tend to give them though. Cathrine Austin Fitts was in their world and knows there is a lot they don't control. And has shared that with social media now for several years. This could be a psyop of course. Yes, the world is in the lap of the evil one. But if God were going to do something unique in our day outside of the globalists, yet our main focus might often be to view most political events through what we more so understand to belong to the social architecture of the elites, how could we ever discover if God does something unique? It would just seem to always (or mostly) default to be merely some version of what globalists are "really" doing. This one feature i believe probably has the most self-evident characteristics beyond all the other points to consider. And hopefully a profound species of discernment in our day.
When I researched if America is a masonic product a few years back, I spent 40 to 50 solid hours within a months time studying the subject, and it is clear that there is just as much evidence against America being founded by elite/globalist minded individuals (and more, i believe) than to just go with notions of those who champion that America is the product of masonry. I realize you are not saying this. But what that view (America formed by Masons) and the view of the role of globalist today have in common is: they both share in the potential of granting globalists super human power potential. The potential approachment of super hero ability status.
Although it is of course a respectable concern to wonder how deep the globalists rabbit hole goes, we do have some voices like Cathrine Austin Fitts, who defeated globalist overreach in her own life. And attests they are strong, but have many weak areas. She believes they can be overcome. Whereas a common tendency of prophesy watching in our era would almost consider Austin-Fitts views as anathema. Just saying. Personally, I believe the globalist choke-hold moment over American personified in the execution of JFK. I believe in general globalism needed some time to ramp up in the USA. It would seem JFK era to be a pivotal point for this. Since that time it would seem right/left became far more mutually steered by globalism.
Either America is A Christian Nation and God Is Making Her Great Again/Or This is All Deception I believe there are two main types of bad faith conservative actors (one toxic and one just led astray). The toxic one is “rep in name only—rino.” And the led astray version seems to be someone who wants to see the good virtues of America succeed. But might be a little too deep into the temporal cool-aide served to where it blinds them from seeing other considerations going on. The thick headed boomer age, for example. Someone still in stages of wanting the best for America but becomes increasingly compromised along the way. I believe this kind of understanding about how conservatives who stray are not all in cahoots with globalism. Some follow blindly I believe out of ignorance. Some out of good will but being tainted. I believe also though there are conservative leaders that are not under the influence of globalism. From this I would say that it is every bit likely that these variants and factions are as real as moves globalist use as strategies. There are both though I would see. The wild frontier associated with human free will, and master plans of elites. Both existing (but not necessarily mutually) side by side. Perhaps what bests suggests there are conservative leaders that have free will enterprise outside of globalist reach is the strategy employed to have DEA Hires. If globalism owned everything, globalists could function fine manipulating professionals who know what they are doing. But DEA hires exist, I believe, because professionals could easily spot what does not belong to protocol in their trade. This would speak to the “fraction/faction” theory as perhaps the more wild west real world snap shot capture for time capsule moment consideration, I believe.
As to whether America is or was a Christian nation OR what we see forming is deception—I am not suggesting dear sisters that you might be suggesting this at all. I am just trying to paragraph sections to be understood as a whole in consideration of what is hopeful structure for my likely even more over aching thesis: Discernment Could Likely Be that Which On Purpose is Outside the Constraints of Colloquial Bias—a theory. Something in which we had spoken of previously regarding…which I would see we are in agreement regarding in some ways. But I believe the temptation will always be there for us to potentially revert to concerns of what the “Mr. Globalist,” as Austin-Fitts calls them, is up to. And of course good to keep an eye-on. But only one eye, I’d say. Because of what the other eye likely also sees: What if God wants to use America to bless Israel to setup Eze 38? That version of MAGA might be entirely real, I believe. Or stated in a more bias free radical way: What if MAGA is for Israel more than America?
This postulate (MAGA = an empowered Israel) does not seem to come up very often in the watcher world. I think I have seen it twice. But only as a shadow thought. Something to note but has no real magnitude in world events. Whereas, in light of my thesis, I would suggest that it is not shadow. And the ramifications are louder than MAGA and Trump world dominance perspectives. Transcending all of that, I would suggest that MAGA to seat Israel on top of the bucking bronco world. I like to say it that way, because those who see Trump as installing the New new world order I would see are perhaps a decade early. Would it not seem odd for a prophecy watching channel to say this:
“ladies and gentlemen (like Amir), I believe what we are likely witnessing today is that Trump and Maga will become very very powerful. And that Trump will exult Israel to super SUPER status. And those who look at this as some diabolical plan are thinking far too temporally. Because its not about us.”
Could you imagine how well that would go over? Lol. But yeah to see that we would have to throw a lot of bias over the cliff. But if that is the direction, we already see how incredibly hard it is for anyone to actually be on that page. So maybe that is because I am tripping and don’t see reality. Or maybe that is because perhaps bias won’t trend to let us consider. Just saying.
A Leader Must Be Good & Moral to Be of Iconic Import Demonstrating Our General Overall Direction in the World Today -- I believe it is helpful to consider that JFK was killed in respect to an age ready for disclosure. It does not matter that he was a democrat, or that he was a playboy in order to be I believe quite a huge “age we are in marker.” The age of 'lifting the veil." I don't mean that in a new age sense. Just in the sense that the JFK era was ready to pull some covers off those secret societies. And then he got shot.
THEN THIS... -- So if that last point is possible, then it would seem that God would use MAGA or conservatives or Trump to bring those ends to make America great. Not because God loves rifles, family, and conservatives. But because He might use America prophetically for Israel. With Israel getting so much attention (good and bad) these days, it just seems that this would be more likely than less, at least. And if that is the case, perhaps grounding is helpful here and might be to see if Trump is used in ways that empower America and Israel. This is somewhat respectfully different than this current discussion—As trusting politicians is an understandable contrast to hoping in them too much (as we see exists). But maybe it is like trusting God with perhaps their roles. Even if they are not on God's side. I guess that would kind of be my sub-thesis: The Art of Seeing the Value God Might Place on Trump (and value that to a great degree because of who God is) and Not Be Swallowed By A Psyop or Mistake What God is Doing is What Trump is Doing. Could you imagine that thesis be one in any watcher circle today? It just seems alien to me. I just hope if that is a relative position, it starts to dawn on the watcher channels. Not to have need to understand the deep things of prophecy and be the premier seat of it. On the contrary, quite the other way around I believe, if true: If God is actually making the fruit hang this insanely low, and the watcher movement never sees it? But we see all this other stuff? Lol. It would not be an I told you so moment. It would be more likely: “Like how much easier could it have been to see for anyone?” lol.
On that note just for the record, I believe the church is the children of providence and not prophesy. I would see Israel as the children of prophesy…this is just how it comes across to me. But with providence, the church gets to be His Bride. A standing higher order than prophet. This is why I believe that providence in the church is kind of prophecy. Not a different one. Just the delivery system echoes in providence through general revelation. Something the churh might not be all to comfortable with. And if so, understood and respected. But just saying that I am not advocating that those who have eyes to see will agree with me (as some might use that tone toward others in the watcher world). Rather, I am just suggesting that anyone can see it if we want—if it truly is providence. I just think it comes with a bias removal service that is rather uncomfortable. At least it was/is for me. So just saying if this ends up being true it would have been God making things utterly stupid simple while perhaps the church might be looking for larger, more sophisticated? Perhaps. But maybe providence is suppose to contrast a measure of prophetic views. To me, its seems on purpose. I just think there could be a lot of interesting discussions in the watcher world if worshipping Trump were not so much a concern so as to have to run the other way. Not that you ladies or this forum are suggesting that. This forum is awesome for being open to various considerations, amen. Just saying for example: It helps our bias if Trump comes out with a bible so we don’t trust that cat. Meanwhile he gives Israel popeye (not psyop) spinach. And perhaps is the most noteable figure in world history when it comes to the ending of the age of grace. Somone we are really “not suppose to care about on any level like that, because after all, the guy printed his own bible and thinks he is the second coming of God.” See how in this sense it could challenges bias on purpose, possibly, if true or approaching true?
Another Example of Super Challenging Bias Consideration Perhaps: Elon Musk will likely design a chip for our brains that will be used in the tribulation. Right now though, he has at least been a general force for more open media. Even there Elon has issues. But he did buy twitter at a loss with getting tarred and feathered for months over it. Did not need it. Sure it will likely be used in tribulation as total mind control. But if the utility of Elon today is only or mainly "he will do devilish things in the tribulation." Or if the greatest value of what "The Board of Peace" means relates to the coming trib (like the 10 nation confederacy perhaps with some there who have no country rule), more than lets say what it means in the age of grace for us today, then i just think it is good and healthy to consider that perhaps the most sober Christian discernment be along the lines of both equally focus as intensely as the other. What is forming and what later likely follows because of. But it just seems we can tend to see him mostly through the eyes of what a man like that might mean as we approach the tribulation.
Point being that because there seems to clearly be two very different utilities (the use of things as they are today & the use of things becoming what they will in the tribulation age) I believe we can tend to be primed on the one we can see ahead. But often (as in the general watcher world) have rather abscent takes if anything on what it might value out as today. If God uses Elon to bring some level of free-er speech temporarily for events God might be using prophetically perhaps, to me, this would seem to be the more important one to notice than someday Elon will chip our whole family. As an example of what I am hopefully expressing.
Perhaps this sort of thing is because the things outside our front door are likely a lot less exiting than the fireworks going off at the beach lets say. But to the degree God might grant us awareness today, i believe relates to reasons why "for today" also He might. This one idea “that there may be prophetic value concering people and events as it soley relates to the age of grace, dispite its alternative value in the tribulation age to come” is likely a huge moving target and does not sit well in anyone’s place for long. But it would seem to be key to have in our bag of discernables.
CONCLUSION
It is on the wings of that that i bring this article to post. This is a very controversial subject. My reason for posting it is not to give any psyop power. But quite the opposite. Perhaps the hardest POV I can recall being challenged with all along the way = this: Is it possible that all levels of temporal insight are on one side of the equation (this might radically but gently and sweetly also include the churches understanding of prophecy—on certain fronts, at least), and God on the other? Meaning that is it possible that in some sense we can flatten and neutralize all temporal intel in some sense as one category (or of one species – those perspectives that are not absolutely organically God’s perspective or active will in doing this or that) and on the other side, it be...God and what He is doing? Or what creature did He not make? To which of His creations can be so removed from Him or His reach (like Jonah tried to run from --Jonah 2), or to which insidious plan orchestrates its Moxy beyond His reach into its event unfolding (Esther 7:10)? So i guess it is perhaps somehow possible that God might use any manner of ingredient of His creation to meme today. Yet, it just seems like we might tend to align most meme-ing with the grand architects abilities and its licensure today. I guess i would just stress a spiritual exercise that might transcend the mere enemies hand in it all...even as a recent posted verse truly fleshes out too: "10 So they hanged Haman on the gallows that he had prepared for Mordecai. Then the king’s wrath subsided." In a day and age where Haman hangs others not himself, it is understandable we might see irony as grand architecture. But if there is something of today in irony, it could be easy to be somewhat caught on the wrong side of that, in theory.
I admit considering the potential of just how far outside our bias God might be moving is not as exciting as what things end up looking like approaching the tribulation. Considering along these lines would also not allow for quick answers or click bait insights. But if the book of Job is true, then on some level this post would have to fit somewhere because of the great (beyond grand) nature of Him who created all. So it is on that note and a thousand words, I offer this article. Some might see this as a psyop. But what if we had a psyop eater in the backyard. That we could just let off the leash and let it eat what was coming at us on the front lawn? I believe we might. I do not believe that God will show us all things at all times. Of course not. But if we show diligent heart toward "sober" today, He likely might show us more than our meeting it with indifference. So right here is the tip of a radioactive toxic spear (I believe): Can God use Psyop? lol. Like who asks such a question. What I mean is, might God use even psyops apparent ability to inform us of even what is going on today? Might God use a thing that is not, like some psyop so many people stumble onto by which to worship Trump through (qanon), to shame the things that are (which could include on any level, perhaps our own biases). Was Q accurate to proclaim a day and time we live in as being ran by Santanic pedophiles? And might our knowing how psyopy Q was itself be a polite and safe engine (Q being so over-the-top it is easy to ignore, dismiss, or belittle) by which to ease this awareness into the public psyche? Through something cartoonish we know is (a) not a prophet, and (b) something even that tore church members from sounder biblical approaches. Can something of that magnitude (contrasting sober sensibilities & even present a danger to the church) also be (c) a mode of communication helping the church to see its fragile state today, as well as (d) be used also to let us know how dark the world is (and has been for decades) for it to be on notice as the tribulation generation? A way of helping the world and the church together to discover the real heart and core functionalities of our world at large today? And how evil it really is: as a helpful mode to show, clarify, warn, and articulate what time it really is? Not that we relly on psyops as ways in which we get our news…lol. Heavens no. But just how “bias” challenging it is if God Himself might permit or use even a psyop to declare sober reality to the world. Because if that is accurate, I believe it does suggest quite a convincing relevance as the church being children of providence. Thanks for reading all of that. Blessings.
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