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Britain refuses to allow US to use its military bases for attacks on Iran

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The British government has not given permission for the United States to use UK military bases to support potential US attacks on Iran, according to public broadcaster BBC.

The US has in the past used RAF Fairford, in Gloucestershire, and the British overseas territory of Diego Garcia, in the Indian Ocean, to carry out attacks in the Middle East region.

President Donald Trump's recent criticism of Sir Keir Starmer's deal to hand over the Chagos Islands to Mauritius and lease a joint UK-US military base was prompted by the UK's refusal to grant permission to use the bases.

A UK government spokesman said: “As we regularly do, we do not comment on operational matters.”

The US has been pressuring Iran to agree to curb its nuclear program. The country has threatened possible attacks if it does not do so and has moved warships, aircraft and other military assets to the region in preparation for a possible attack.


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For the time being I would treat Great Britain as a country that used to be an Allie that can no longer be trusted. They'd have to earn the right to sit at the table again. This is/was a very serious mess up on their part. If I were Trump I'd study the feasibility of moving all of our military assets out of Great Britain unless they're willing to make a commitment not to limit our use of military facilities in any way, and to pay for some of our expenses in maintaining our military there. If they're already paying... then double it.

As far as GB, Germany, and France entering the skirmish, I'd order them to stay out of our way, way out of our way. Stay home and color.
 
The British government has not given permission for the United States to use UK military bases to support potential US attacks on Iran, according to public broadcaster BBC.

The US has in the past used RAF Fairford, in Gloucestershire, and the British overseas territory of Diego Garcia, in the Indian Ocean, to carry out attacks in the Middle East region.

President Donald Trump's recent criticism of Sir Keir Starmer's deal to hand over the Chagos Islands to Mauritius and lease a joint UK-US military base was prompted by the UK's refusal to grant permission to use the bases.

A UK government spokesman said: “As we regularly do, we do not comment on operational matters.”

The US has been pressuring Iran to agree to curb its nuclear program. The country has threatened possible attacks if it does not do so and has moved warships, aircraft and other military assets to the region in preparation for a possible attack.

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It should come as no surprise that the UK has gotten worse, supporting Islamic evil legislation and providing asylum to a number of extremist Islamists. It is no secret that these individuals look up to the hijackers of the planes that crashed into the Twin Towers in 2001.The UK has changed unfortunately .
 
I guess my suspicions aren't unique that Britain has put themselves in a bad place and will have to anger NATO members (especially the USA) or risk serious riots, crime and terrorism from some of their open borders infestation that has been in play for decades. They seem to look the other way at the brutal violence, crimes, corruption, etc. of everyday life from that same infestation like it's livable/tolerable. I'm not there and I don't really know, but it seems like there are large numbers of that infestation, they are emboldened and already proven to be dangerous/violent, the authorities have to suspect they wouldn't be able to stop/control a major riotous uprising from inside, and law enforcement has been disarmed and given no training or skills if such would happen. Whether exactly or partially true, that seems frightening to me so I suppose British leadership isn't ignorant of that same feeling?
 
It boils down to whether allies of the US actually have autonomy within their borders AND whether they are a vassal state.

From the American view they became a vassal state when the US took on the responsibility of defence against the Warsaw Pact nations after WW2 and Yalta when the Cold War began.

From the British point of view they are allies, not vassals and cooperation is expected but not guaranteed when sovereignty and national boundaries are breached. Britain fought the majority of WW2 without the US who only got involved Dec 11 of 1941. They incurred huge losses. Germany's losses were made up by the States, but no such help went to Britain. Britain could argue that they were materially weakened and that their enemy (Germany) was aided in the rebuilding of Europe. The use of bases on British soil during the Cold War was a mutual benefit to both parties as they cooperated against the USSR. As the Reagan era ended the USSR and things changed, that is when the relationship began to change.

This raises the issue of consent of the governed because a vassal state is just that- a vassal, a piece of property allowed to have some limited decisions, but the major decisions are made by the one owning the vassal.

When was consent to become a vassal given and how was it determined?

How does the vassal state have a say in their governance?

America was founded on the idea of No taxation without representation. Representation in a democracy comes from the right of the governed, to have a say (a vote) in the decisions made on their behalf.

No longer would they have to pay taxes to Britain because they didn't have a say in how they were governed.

That is a good, right and just principle.

Now the tables have turned.

Does Britain still have a say in their own country? Or are they as America once was, simply a colony to be governed by others halfway across the planet?

I would suggest that Britain needs to become autonomous immediately, and become responsible for her own defence completely, and that might involve cutting the ties to NATO and the US that remain.

But that won't happen as the Russians are currently threatening Britain on the regular, knowing that they are the weakest link in the NATO alliance currently. Europe hangs together, but Britain is a little island nation who isn't quite part of Europe, not part of the US and is very vulnerable.

I think Britain's ties to Europe will strengthen even as she has to give way to American demands.

So then the question REALLY becomes Will the US honour other nation's boundaries? And that is what is at stake here whether we are talking Greenland, Britain, or Canada.

I think what we are seeing is the inevitable move towards a North American union as part of the 10 zones the world will divide into even if technocracy is another aspect of the 10 kings.

It became inevitable when NATO was formed, and Europe and Britain were content to allow America to take the lead. Actions have consequences. He who pays the piper calls the tune!

I think that is the answer to the 2 questions above:
When was consent to become a vassal given and how was it determined? (Yalta)
How does the vassal state have a say in their governance? (they don't)

But I also see another thing forming and that is a post American world after the Rapture.

A Europe that pulls together as the old Roman Empire reconstituted. A Europe that doesn't want to be involved with America after the Rapture (too weak, what's the point?).

A Europe that doesn't have to worry about Russia because the war of Gog Magog took Russia out of the picture, just as the Rapture removed the strength of America.
 
Isn't it interesting that it was okay for several European countries to loan bases to the U.S. during World War I and World War II to protect and defend England, France, and other European countries being attacked by their enemies. But now they will not provide bases for the U.S. as we try to defend another country in the same dire straits???? It sounds like a massive case of ingratitude to me. And a big case of being hypocritical!!! Of course, we know that the king is partial to the Islam religion and always has been........... One day in the not so distant future England may have a come-uppance when the Islamic immigrants there rise up against them. I wonder if anyone will come to their rescue again after they have made such bad choices about this.
 
Isn't it interesting that it was okay for several European countries to loan bases to the U.S. during World War I and World War II to protect and defend England, France, and other European countries being attacked by their enemies. But now they will not provide bases for the U.S. as we try to defend another country in the same dire straits???? It sounds like a massive case of ingratitude to me. And a big case of being hypocritical!!! Of course, we know that the king is partial to the Islam religion and always has been........... One day in the not so distant future England may have a come-uppance when the Islamic immigrants there rise up against them. I wonder if anyone will come to their rescue again after they have made such bad choices about this.
I don't even think it will get to the point of the Islamic invaders rising up. I think at the Gog Magog war, Islam will have the stuffing knocked out of them.

The way I see this:
Just after WW2 during Yalta the Cold War era began, God had already removed Britains strength (result of abandoning their promise to Israel, the Balfour Declaration from WW1) and the little strength that remained was spent in WW2.

The American era began as the States took on a protective role towards Israel. American power grows as Europe and Britain become vassal states. They don't realize it at the time but that is when and how it happened.

The Reagan years are a turning point. The USSR falls into disarray, Europe and Britain continue to party on, while the Americans remain the world police but Islam is rising- Iran's revolution occurred just before Reagan during the Carter admin.

Fast forward to 911 after some Islamic war stuff with Iraq, the ongoing long rise to power with Iran and the rise of the Muslim Brotherhood and Al Quaeda.

911 IS another major turning point.

America weakens under Clinton some years after Bush Sr, and before Bush Jr but the Bushes are globalists. Technocracy continues to rise, and the Bushes are very much friends with Saudi Arabia. Gaza is torn out from Israel under Bush Jr.

Koenig writes Eye to Eye detailing how Israel is treated just before during and after 911.

Obama rises to power as the book See Something Say Nothing is published detailing the islamic invasion of the west

First Trump election and his first term. Ending with Covid.

Covid era- sets the stage for economic and political change. A major turning point AGAIN

Biden era and the globalists are back with a vengeance, along with the Islamists everywhere.

Israel is invaded by Gaza- this is the last main turning point along with the Trump reelection.

Second Trump election pulls America out of the dumpster fire, and restores some sanity even as technocracy continues to rise in power. What I think is the last American era of strength. One final burst to protect Israel, deal death to Elam, the mullahs, and if Jer 49 and Ezek 32 plus Is 17 are in the near horizon, stage setting for those prophecies, then fulfillment.

Now: - THIS is what we are seeing taking place around us.

10 kings divvy up the planet into economic and political blocs. THIS dividing into regions is the whole point of American flexing of power regarding Greenland, Canada and Britain. This is how it began. Right after Trump's Second Election as he began to use Tariffs and other tools to bring the nations into line with reality. The reality. of the future 10 kings, and the technocrats ruling the world. AC begins to rise in the ranks, remains hidden for now.

Coming soon:

Rapture removes the backbone from America making her too weak to be a major player during the Gog Magog event. She along with Saudi Arabia and the rest of Tarshish and her cubs make a weak protest about the Russian coalition.

Europe and Britain watch as the Gog Magog Russian coalition are destroyed. Now it's no more America, no more Russia as world powers and the rest of the Gog Magog gang are all the fundamentalist Islamic players who have just had a death blow.

Europe and Britain rise to form a renewed Roman Empire as the centre of power shifts towards Europe and the Middle East. I suspect something happens to China and the Eastern bloc of power along the way, they don't show up in Ezek 38.

and the rest you know.
 
I don't even think it will get to the point of the Islamic invaders rising up. I think at the Gog Magog war, Islam will have the stuffing knocked out of them.

The way I see this:
Just after WW2 during Yalta the Cold War era began, God had already removed Britains strength (result of abandoning their promise to Israel, the Balfour Declaration from WW1) and the little strength that remained was spent in WW2.

The American era began as the States took on a protective role towards Israel. American power grows as Europe and Britain become vassal states. They don't realize it at the time but that is when and how it happened.

The Reagan years are a turning point. The USSR falls into disarray, Europe and Britain continue to party on, while the Americans remain the world police but Islam is rising- Iran's revolution occurred just before Reagan during the Carter admin.

Fast forward to 911 after some Islamic war stuff with Iraq, the ongoing long rise to power with Iran and the rise of the Muslim Brotherhood and Al Quaeda.

911 IS another major turning point.

America weakens under Clinton some years after Bush Sr, and before Bush Jr but the Bushes are globalists. Technocracy continues to rise, and the Bushes are very much friends with Saudi Arabia. Gaza is torn out from Israel under Bush Jr.

Koenig writes Eye to Eye detailing how Israel is treated just before during and after 911.

Obama rises to power as the book See Something Say Nothing is published detailing the islamic invasion of the west

First Trump election and his first term. Ending with Covid.

Covid era- sets the stage for economic and political change. A major turning point AGAIN

Biden era and the globalists are back with a vengeance, along with the Islamists everywhere.

Israel is invaded by Gaza- this is the last main turning point along with the Trump reelection.

Second Trump election pulls America out of the dumpster fire, and restores some sanity even as technocracy continues to rise in power. What I think is the last American era of strength. One final burst to protect Israel, deal death to Elam, the mullahs, and if Jer 49 and Ezek 32 plus Is 17 are in the near horizon, stage setting for those prophecies, then fulfillment.

Now: - THIS is what we are seeing taking place around us.

10 kings divvy up the planet into economic and political blocs. THIS dividing into regions is the whole point of American flexing of power regarding Greenland, Canada and Britain. This is how it began. Right after Trump's Second Election as he began to use Tariffs and other tools to bring the nations into line with reality. The reality. of the future 10 kings, and the technocrats ruling the world. AC begins to rise in the ranks, remains hidden for now.

Coming soon:

Rapture removes the backbone from America making her too weak to be a major player during the Gog Magog event. She along with Saudi Arabia and the rest of Tarshish and her cubs make a weak protest about the Russian coalition.

Europe and Britain watch as the Gog Magog Russian coalition are destroyed. Now it's no more America, no more Russia as world powers and the rest of the Gog Magog gang are all the fundamentalist Islamic players who have just had a death blow.

Europe and Britain rise to form a renewed Roman Empire as the centre of power shifts towards Europe and the Middle East. I suspect something happens to China and the Eastern bloc of power along the way, they don't show up in Ezek 38.

and the rest you know.
I wonder if the Holy spirit will continue to restrain the economy from crashing this time around ?

Japan's economy is a flip of the coin off ultimate disaster and many think if this current strikes with Iran drag on a bit, that may be the trigger for the global economy to maybe crash and for the much wanted global reset according to Britt Gillette's latest videos
 
The British government has not given permission for the United States to use UK military bases to support potential US attacks on Iran, according to public broadcaster BBC.

The US has in the past used RAF Fairford, in Gloucestershire, and the British overseas territory of Diego Garcia, in the Indian Ocean, to carry out attacks in the Middle East region.

President Donald Trump's recent criticism of Sir Keir Starmer's deal to hand over the Chagos Islands to Mauritius and lease a joint UK-US military base was prompted by the UK's refusal to grant permission to use the bases.

A UK government spokesman said: “As we regularly do, we do not comment on operational matters.”

The US has been pressuring Iran to agree to curb its nuclear program. The country has threatened possible attacks if it does not do so and has moved warships, aircraft and other military assets to the region in preparation for a possible attack.


(n)
Not surprising really.
Britain is nearly a Muslim country now what with all the concessions they made to placate Islamic refugees.
Free speech is nearly null.
 
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