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America First Act Bans Illegal Immigrants Welfare, Other Benefits

Tall Timbers

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WASHINGTON, DC — During a meeting on Wednesday of the Senate Committee on the Budget, Senator Mike Lee (R-UT) told Office of Management and Budget Director Nominee Russell T. Vought that his America First Act would ban illegal immigrants from receiving welfare and other benefits.

Senator Lee introduced the America First Act in December 2024. The legislation is designed to prevent “illegal immigrants paroled into the United States from accessing billions of dollars in welfare and other benefits intended for American families.” Texas Representative Chip Roy and Chairman Jodey Arrington introduced a companion bill in the House.

“For years, Americans have been told that illegal immigrants are barred from receiving federal benefits to distract from Washington’s complete failure to secure our borders,” said Senator Lee at the time. “This is a lie. Millions of illegal immigrants “paroled” into the United States, many for fraudulent asylum claims, have gained the ability to access welfare and aid programs originally designed to help American families, not attract and support massive populations of foreign citizens. The America First Act pulls the plug on this criminal redistribution scheme forced upon the American people by Joe Biden and generations of dishonest politicians.”


It sounds like a good measure, but since it is already illegal to aid or abet criminals and criminalizes that behavior, this law would likely also be ignored when a lawless govmint returns to power. None-the-less, it's a good idea to turn a lot of what Trump is doing by Executive Order into laws.
 
, it's a good idea to turn a lot of what Trump is doing by Executive Order into laws.
In fact, for the future good of America that is a very important responsibility of this Republican-led Congress at this point in time: to codify into law some of the key executive orders of President Trump. Executive orders can be easily overturned in the future; not so the law.
 
Back in the 50's through the mid 70's there were Mexicans that signed up for hand cultivation of certain crops. There transportation was arranged in Mexico and ended at summer homes in USA. Companies supplied the houses transportation to and from the housing. I don't see why that can't still be done?
 
In fact, for the future good of America that is a very important responsibility of this Republican-led Congress at this point in time: to codify into law some of the key executive orders of President Trump. Executive orders can be easily overturned in the future; not so the law.
That would be good. :) Question: I realize Trump has a lot of energy. And we have seen a lot of destruction in the past 4 years. So it makes sense that Trump would hit the ground running. But does it maybe seem a little like something else? Remember Pelozi: "You have to sign it to know what is in it," during the Obama years when publishing a thousand page bill was then immiedately dumped into the laps of Congress with 24 hours to read, discuss, and vote on it? I believe this was 15 years ago. Of course the comment was straight out of Alice in Wonderland. But what functionally seemed to happen in government was a cluster approach to bombard the American government with unrealistic pushy approaches.

That seemed to be the beggining. Because it does seem part and parcel of the deep state players to push from several angles at the same time (gay marriage, transgender agenda, infiltrating schools, infiltrating teachers union, infiltrating media, entertainment, education, politics...etc). There seems to be a long standing evolutionary plan of the left to come at America from all side. And over time it has worked. In 2020 this was very noticeable in how in the world we got state attornies to go against the law on several fronts (including opening up the prisons, revolving arrest and release doors, and stonewalling reasonable laws that should be considered---not to mention their roles in sanctuary city formation). So, now, we see Trump signing a bunch of executive orders (Biden did too when he first arrived), and no one is surprised by Trumps zeal in governing. But still, it kind of seems a little like the "overwhelm them" effect that Obama/Pelozi used to get bills signed by bottlenecking the process (providing no time to read bills but rushing and pushing for adherence).

I remember that time well when everything seemed to crank up speed with shaking and moving from a liberal bent back then. But now, does it not seem that perhaps Trump is barrowing a chapter out of their own book? Using their own medicine? Overwhelming the deep state with so many rollout conditions that seems to cause a sense of perhaps not knowing where to start...but even more...kicking up so much dust at one time, it is hard to see perhaps how they may relate or in what overall direction Trump might be strategizing? Does it come across perhaps like that?

Blessings.
 
Be ready for a lot of burglary, theft, robbery, and prostitution when this takes effect.
Hunger makes people do bad stuff, and desperate people do desperate things to feed their hungry children.
Bad actors will steal because they want to, and there are resources for the hungry all around us. Outdoor pantries where people can grab what they need, indoor food pantries that will hand out groceries no questions asked, churches that provide free lunches and dinners. It may not be what people like, but there are so many more options for the hungry than there were even when I was a kid. If this were another country, I might be a little more sympathetic, but there is nothing stopping people from going back to their home countries and getting work there. There's a reason they stay here.

These "refugees" were throwing away the free meals that they were given in New York because the food didn't suit them. Contrast that with Christian refugees coming from Syria and Turkey meeting with our church's missionaries in a nearby country crying when they had been given a feast that they didn't think they could eat because it had been so long since they had eaten, it was going to make them sick.

No. excuse. period.
 
What a load of rubbish. Bad actors will steal because they want to, and there are resources for the hungry all around us. Outdoor pantries where people can grab what they need, indoor food pantries that will hand out groceries no questions asked, churches that provide free lunches and dinners. It may not be what people like, but there are so many more options for the hungry than there were even when I was a kid. If this were another country, I might be a little more sympathetic, but there is nothing stopping people from going back to their home countries and getting work there. There's a reason they stay here.

These "refugees" were throwing away the free meals that they were given in New York because the food didn't suit them. Contrast that with Christian refugees coming from Syria and Turkey meeting with our church's missionaries in a nearby country crying when they had been given a feast that they didn't think they could eat because it had been so long since they had eaten, it was going to make them sick.

No. excuse. period.
I agree but i think Ghoti is just use to how the deep state using culture like chess pieces to smash and grab, taunt police, set fires, trample on people's outdoor dinning during Antifa/BLM years, going into restaurants and shaming politicians on the right in public causing them to leave their dinning. Stuff like that. So i think it is true that the deep state uses the Rules for Radicals and constructs a social order independent army of their own to sick on the public to conform. So i believe there is that.

But yeah i think you make a great argument for why it does not have to be this way. Especially in this country. Like on a side note, when we thought during the election period there would be chaos like we saw in 2020. Perhaps worse. But it would seem because of what we have been able to do over the last four years seemed to undue some abilities of deep state operations. Like now we have sanctuary cities pouting. But legally they do not have a leg to stand on. So it would seem only a matter of time for their protective measures endorced by government to fold.

I believe too that one reason we did not see riots during the elections (other than it being obvious they could not con the public again like before) that there might have been some adjustments in the military over the past four years that did not exist in 2020. This is hard to justify....lol. I realize. But the greatest indication that there are alterations in military policy toward riots is that nothing happened. For example though, i remember recently something coming out stating that the military could use lethal force on American citizens. When we saw that of course we would think how evil the country is becoming. That our own military will be used against us. But as best as i can tell, it would appear on some levels that change to not necessarily be a holistically endorsed one by the Biden Admin one. And may in fact be poised against their tactics. Thus, who wants to go riot for the deep state to get killed or maimed. Its not like going to war for good cause. Its like going to war for fat cats need you as a dupe. So it makes sense the death penalty is not attractive under those terms. It is not common so much to think this way, I understand. But on some levels it makes sense.

In any event, glad to read your post though. Because it is a touching matter to realize how God has so graced America. Thanks for the post. Blessings.
 
What a load of rubbish. Bad actors will steal because they want to, and there are resources for the hungry all around us. Outdoor pantries where people can grab what they need, indoor food pantries that will hand out groceries no questions asked, churches that provide free lunches and dinners. It may not be what people like, but there are so many more options for the hungry than there were even when I was a kid. If this were another country, I might be a little more sympathetic, but there is nothing stopping people from going back to their home countries and getting work there. There's a reason they stay here.

These "refugees" were throwing away the free meals that they were given in New York because the food didn't suit them. Contrast that with Christian refugees coming from Syria and Turkey meeting with our church's missionaries in a nearby country crying when they had been given a feast that they didn't think they could eat because it had been so long since they had eaten, it was going to make them sick.

No. excuse. period.

I agree, no excuse, but it happens.

Yes, the bad actors will always do bad things.
There are generally law-abiding people, who ordinarily won't do bad things, but hunger will drive people to do "stuff" if there is no other alternative.
I agree that pantries, churches, and other organizations do a lot of good, but if none available because demand is so great and the hunger is bad enough, some people will do stuff they wouldn't otherwise do.
Yes, there is a difference between how Christians and Jewish people act versus others, simply because of Biblical values and faith in the true God, who always provides.

IDK how easy it would be for someone from South or Central America to go back, unless he or she turned him or herself in and asked to be deported back home. During the last administration, I suspect even that would have been problematic. Right now, I suspect anyone asking for transport home would get it very readily. A family, which used all of its resources getting here and managed to survive the various hazards along the way likely can't get back without help.
 
That would be good. :) Question: I realize Trump has a lot of energy. And we have seen a lot of destruction in the past 4 years. So it makes sense that Trump would hit the ground running. But does it maybe seem a little like something else? Remember Pelozi: "You have to sign it to know what is in it," during the Obama years when publishing a thousand page bill was then immiedately dumped into the laps of Congress with 24 hours to read, discuss, and vote on it? I believe this was 15 years ago. Of course the comment was straight out of Alice in Wonderland. But what functionally seemed to happen in government was a cluster approach to bombard the American government with unrealistic pushy approaches.

That seemed to be the beggining. Because it does seem part and parcel of the deep state players to push from several angles at the same time (gay marriage, transgender agenda, infiltrating schools, infiltrating teachers union, infiltrating media, entertainment, education, politics...etc). There seems to be a long standing evolutionary plan of the left to come at America from all side. And over time it has worked. In 2020 this was very noticeable in how in the world we got state attornies to go against the law on several fronts (including opening up the prisons, revolving arrest and release doors, and stonewalling reasonable laws that should be considered---not to mention their roles in sanctuary city formation). So, now, we see Trump signing a bunch of executive orders (Biden did too when he first arrived), and no one is surprised by Trumps zeal in governing. But still, it kind of seems a little like the "overwhelm them" effect that Obama/Pelozi used to get bills signed by bottlenecking the process (providing no time to read bills but rushing and pushing for adherence).

I remember that time well when everything seemed to crank up speed with shaking and moving from a liberal bent back then. But now, does it not seem that perhaps Trump is barrowing a chapter out of their own book? Using their own medicine? Overwhelming the deep state with so many rollout conditions that seems to cause a sense of perhaps not knowing where to start...but even more...kicking up so much dust at one time, it is hard to see perhaps how they may relate or in what overall direction Trump might be strategizing? Does it come across perhaps like that?

Blessings.
All kinds of ideas and what ifs there! But I think, respectfully, that we have fallen into the trap of spending way, way, way too much time and effort looking at what man does, examining all the permutations and combinations, trying to interpret the real meaning and significance of everything happening, attempting to align it with Scripture, and cautioning each other about what's going on. Where in God's Word does it tell us to do that?

I truly think all of that is all a ploy of Satan to keep us occupied where God does not want us occupied. That's something (I have learned in 80 years) at which the Devil is very good. The fact is this-- God is in control. He sees everything coming and He knows every plan and every deep and dark secret. Nothing is hidden from His gaze or outside the reach of His hand. His power is infinitely greater than the power of everything else in the universe combined. He sees the beginning and the end and everything in between. He is infinitely able and willing to guard us and keep us through all that could ever possibly transpire. We have no need for fear, or even concern. Our God is a mighty God! THE Almighty One! I think we would do well to put more effort into focusing on Him in our attention, our thoughts and our efforts, and doing what He called us to do-- namely proclaiming His glory in the earth, calling men to come to Him through repentance and faith in Jesus Christ.

There is a place for warning our brothers and sisters; but honestly count up the number of words we expend on discussing what's going on in the world compared to the number of words we spend glorifying God, exploring His nature and His works, and comforting and praying for one another. Even on this site I see far more interest in --and contributions to-- topics that involve this world and what's happening in it than I do to the things of the Spirit. And I've been guilty of some of that. I repent of it.
 
All kinds of ideas and what ifs there! But I think, respectfully, that we have fallen into the trap of spending way, way, way too much time and effort looking at what man does, examining all the permutations and combinations, trying to interpret the real meaning and significance of everything happening, attempting to align it with Scripture, and cautioning each other about what's going on. Where in God's Word does it tell us to do that?

I truly think all of that is all a ploy of Satan to keep us occupied where God does not want us occupied. That's something (I have learned in 80 years) at which the Devil is very good. The fact is this-- God is in control. He sees everything coming and He knows every plan and every deep and dark secret. Nothing is hidden from His gaze or outside the reach of His hand. His power is infinitely greater than the power of everything else in the universe combined. He sees the beginning and the end and everything in between. He is infinitely able and willing to guard us and keep us through all that could ever possibly transpire. We have no need for fear, or even concern. Our God is a mighty God! THE Almighty One! I think we would do well to put more effort into focusing on Him in our attention, our thoughts and our efforts, and doing what He called us to do-- namely proclaiming His glory in the earth, calling men to come to Him through repentance and faith in Jesus Christ.

There is a place for warning our brothers and sisters; but honestly count up the number of words we expend on discussing what's going on in the world compared to the number of words we spend glorifying God, exploring His nature and His works, and comforting and praying for one another. Even on this site I see far more interest in --and contributions to-- topics that involve this world and what's happening in it than I do to the things of the Spirit. And I've been guilty of some of that. I repent of it.
Amen pastor. I hear your heart brother. I understand the good faith admonition to not look so much at what man is doing. Often this is in a general sense that which scratches the itch of I'll gotten "certainty." In a more specific sense it could be from fear or it could be from stroking ego too at times I have seen. This is good to remember because, as far as I know, all the previously mentioned items here...we have all done at some time and in some way.

Where I agree with this concern the most for me is I guess what I might call the Green Acres effect. That TV series was classic, and well capture how wrongly connected logic looks in all her absurd glory. And we can laugh about it because this is every person somewhere at some time. But I think the more profound humor in it was just watching how the writers could playfully play that up to the hilt...taking it to the extreme. Laughing just thinking about that. In like fashion, as end times is new because there is only one, and regardless of how much we might make sense to ourselves in trying to calibrate what in end times lives in true mystery, our tracking of roll out can be rather vaudevillian. I have enjoyed making fun of myself even in seeing this phenomenon. :)

I appreciate your sharing from you life's exposure to the enemies ability to distract with so many things. I would say even from today where ministries warn from being distracted, ministries themselves can often or at times be drenched with distraction of their pedigree and brand. The Green Acres effect. In that sense, we kind of live in magical times, don't we? lol. Another rubric caption for our day in this respect might also be charectorized perhaps best in the movie: Ideocracy. Which possibly might have become the actuallity of globalism the elites would never had intended to have somehow been drinking their own coolaide all along the way as well. And it be some Twilight Zone outcome of where globalist elitism might have landed had we belonged to an alternative universe where end times not exist.

But yeah, in short, though where I might err most is on the side of certainty...not so much fear. Raised in the more fear of the angry Father syndrom, American reformed camps can be prone to be somewhat about, and having a melancholy dispostion myself, made for a grotesque and very sloppy combination in my life. An overly sensitive Spidey sense that was utterly exhausting. So in that respect, I do tend to believe fear porn would not be my emotional drug of choice these days. And on the certainty front though, I've taken a keen interest over the course of years to take it and often beat it up, put it in a clown suit, and set it on fire. Just to see if anything remains of it after. Now, THAT might be my emotional drug of choice today. But a generally helpful feature out of all that actually would have been the unusual calm during the Biden years.

. . . . .

But the reason I bring up that aspect about Trump though is something I heard from a non-watcher perspective. And I can do all sorts of cartoons in my head with that stuff. But I would ask something of that nature more so I reckon to sharpen aspects of sense making in general in a way. Not so much for certainty though. Because I can very easily take a decade of nostalgically held beliefs and toss them to the wind overnight. That might not be the greatest trait, lol, but I guess it has become a skill of sorts over the years for me. So, yeah, I totally honor where you are coming from. In spades actually. Because I see every reason under the sun to have those concerns today. Is there an over focus of watching what men do to map it to our sense of certainty in scripture? 1000%. For I believe if we were still here like we are 100 years from now, the time capsule opened for our day would not be pretty in that respect.

But I do believe there is a sense where aspects of the charector of God can been also understood too in how Providence unfolds, and be of notice. Yes, too much reliance on that can be a kin to trying to understand trends by reading chicken bones or some strange earthy practice of devination. Amen. But I do believe as much as we live in a Green Acres era, we also live in a time where God's character can be noticed in our providential moment. The highest order as to why, to me, would be in starting I guess from what we already know of His character in the word. That as we get closer to the end, it would be highly likely we also notice His care toward His creation at varying levels--increase. And that He likely would provide low hanging fruit potential for even the unbelieving to get a sense of His charector too because of the closeness of the dark approaching hour. And how He loves repentence over the death of the wicked. So in that way, primarily, it would make sense He demonstrate perhaps a highten season of that sort of thing.

So like when I look at trends and such, for me, its just like a way of crowding out white noise. Because things I might project as possible are typically under some pretty fierce scrutiny for me as a rule. Like I guess the way I would consider it somewhat helpful to dertimine if Trump might be about the business of "overwhelming" as part of a strategy, is more so related to acquiring small elements of conviction that might make other seemingly non-related actions or events make fuller sense from perhaps a more robust mutli-orbed context. And, for me, I reckon why that might have some small level of relevance might be because what does seem to be made clear about our day is that we will have our leaning biases very likely challenged. So on one hand we have likely the low hanging fruit of God's character perhaps more observable in Providence, while on the other hand we have our biases somewhat in a state of sem-constant status of being challenged. A fairly odd combination, lol, no doubt.

But I don't exactly lean toward discovery of these things in the hopeful matching of scripture or prophecy as much as a gathering of likely amunition against my own biases. That may sound psychedelic...lol. It even kind of sounds that way to me in ways. But I it seems less common today that we find assertive tendencies in peeps to purposely and proactively place their views under wartime scrutiny. We normally see the opposite. Like you have shared. Where we more likely superimpose what we are thinking onto scripture. Whereas I tend to be more about the opposite. Upending my own convictions with the gain of deeper reasons to call myself out. lol. Kinda weird probably. But yes, at the end of the day, there will be a mass migration of herds of thought and sensibilities I have that will just have "no" answer. I guess in some ways though, on my journey of collective info from various sources, I myself, I believe, tend to kick up as much dust as possible to see what else might be present yet unnoticed so much. So it could be i'm projecting my own approaches onto Trump. I appreciate the points you make because in general that is far more the concern of our day than perhaps the kinds of reasons I might ask, so much. In some ways though it is helpful because I would consider insights from someone like yourself that has been around and seasoned a stable example of seasoned perspective in our day as we have now. And how to take heart in its profound observation as well. As a meaningful weigh-in that should be found in our day should our age be opened 100 years from and in its time capsule found: An earmark representation of godly grounded perspective even in the midst of the age of Green Acres. Blessings.
 
I wish this would apply to California. Because California is a sanctuary state and pretty much has an open Southern border, there's a great number of illegal immigrants that come to California and settle here and get "transitional assistance", in cash aid, Medicaid, and SNAP (food stamps).
These people will receive this aid no red tape like American citizens have to go through.
American citizens must have documents to prove who they are, and provide birth certificates and ID and a lot of other sources of documents that the illegal immigrants don't have to provide.
I know California does receive federal funding for the Medicaid. That could be effected by this Act Trump is implementing. I also think federal funds are used for the food stamp program.
As for the cash aid, I'm not sure if it comes from federal aid. Regardless, it's all tax payer money.
Because Gavin Newsom has spent so much on providing aid on illegal immigrants and because of California leadership mismanagement in what money is spent on, and a lot of the expenditures are not accounted for according to recent audits, but California is in a deficit of $74 Billion as of March 2024 and it's due to money mismanagement.
Newsom was repeatedly asking for money from Biden like the Millions he was granted for his homeless project and he didn't keep record of spending that money and the homelessness only increased and no housing development that Newsom "intended" to use those funds on were ever built. So millions of federal funds have disappeared with no record of where it went. But he did manage to buy a tax payer funded Mansion for him and his family for $91 million dollars.
Yeah, I wish Trump could do something about this Governor wasting funds like that.
 
There is a place for warning our brothers and sisters; but honestly count up the number of words we expend on discussing what's going on in the world compared to the number of words we spend glorifying God, exploring His nature and His works, and comforting and praying for one another. Even on this site I see far more interest in --and contributions to-- topics that involve this world and what's happening in it than I do to the things of the Spirit. And I've been guilty of some of that. I repent of it.
Repenting with you Pastor.

I think what we’re experiencing as common sense law enforcement is returning with God placing Trump back in the leadership of the US is God’s love for us.

God lifted His blessings during the Biden terror reign and now we are able to glimpse an aspect of how much we need God to bless us.
 
All kinds of ideas and what ifs there! But I think, respectfully, that we have fallen into the trap of spending way, way, way too much time and effort looking at what man does, examining all the permutations and combinations, trying to interpret the real meaning and significance of everything happening, attempting to align it with Scripture, and cautioning each other about what's going on. Where in God's Word does it tell us to do that?

I truly think all of that is all a ploy of Satan to keep us occupied where God does not want us occupied. That's something (I have learned in 80 years) at which the Devil is very good. The fact is this-- God is in control. He sees everything coming and He knows every plan and every deep and dark secret. Nothing is hidden from His gaze or outside the reach of His hand. His power is infinitely greater than the power of everything else in the universe combined. He sees the beginning and the end and everything in between. He is infinitely able and willing to guard us and keep us through all that could ever possibly transpire. We have no need for fear, or even concern. Our God is a mighty God! THE Almighty One! I think we would do well to put more effort into focusing on Him in our attention, our thoughts and our efforts, and doing what He called us to do-- namely proclaiming His glory in the earth, calling men to come to Him through repentance and faith in Jesus Christ.

There is a place for warning our brothers and sisters; but honestly count up the number of words we expend on discussing what's going on in the world compared to the number of words we spend glorifying God, exploring His nature and His works, and comforting and praying for one another. Even on this site I see far more interest in --and contributions to-- topics that involve this world and what's happening in it than I do to the things of the Spirit. And I've been guilty of some of that. I repent of it.
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I wish this would apply to California. Because California is a sanctuary state and pretty much has an open Southern border, there's a great number of illegal immigrants that come to California and settle here and get "transitional assistance", in cash aid, Medicaid, and SNAP (food stamps).
These people will receive this aid no red tape like American citizens have to go through.
American citizens must have documents to prove who they are, and provide birth certificates and ID and a lot of other sources of documents that the illegal immigrants don't have to provide.
I know California does receive federal funding for the Medicaid. That could be effected by this Act Trump is implementing. I also think federal funds are used for the food stamp program.
As for the cash aid, I'm not sure if it comes from federal aid. Regardless, it's all tax payer money.
Because Gavin Newsom has spent so much on providing aid on illegal immigrants and because of California leadership mismanagement in what money is spent on, and a lot of the expenditures are not accounted for according to recent audits, but California is in a deficit of $74 Billion as of March 2024 and it's due to money mismanagement.
Newsom was repeatedly asking for money from Biden like the Millions he was granted for his homeless project and he didn't keep record of spending that money and the homelessness only increased and no housing development that Newsom "intended" to use those funds on were ever built. So millions of federal funds have disappeared with no record of where it went. But he did manage to buy a tax payer funded Mansion for him and his family for $91 million dollars.
Yeah, I wish Trump could do something about this Governor wasting funds like that.

What happens if a U.S. citizen impersonates an illegal immigrant/migrant to get help?

Asking for a friend of a friend *maisey*
 
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