Will The Tribulation Start on April 8th?

[Cheeky200386]

I guess not

Exact date setting is a red flag. We just can’t know exactly when. I do get excited thinking it can be any day and I’m thinking of where to give Gospel tracts.

 

[Ghoti Ichthus]

I guess not

Exact date setting is a red flag. We just can’t know exactly when. I do get excited thinking it can be any day and I’m thinking of where to give Gospel tracts.

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[Ghoti Ichthus]

Too bad I can't quote @mattfivefour reaction

35 minutes, CDT

 

[Spartan Sprinter]

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Spoiler alert, it's the 9th down here and you guessed it, still here !!!!

 

[Ghoti Ichthus]

whew! that was close!

 

[TCC]

Lee is always on the side of an anyday Rapture, always strongly against any form of date setting.

He occasionally comes out with a really good rebuttal/rebuke like this when the date setters get into a frenzy. It's to help those both before and after the "big day" when the hopes are shattered once again. Get people into a more solid form of watching for the Rapture and getting busy with the gospel going out to family, friends, neighbours etc. His ministry is all about staying biblical.

I have no clue why they think Apr 8th. I have seen a lot of buzz around it, haven't gotten into the usual suspects to figure out why but I wish they wouldn't. I noticed a new one I'm watching has come out with a rebuttal but not blunt like Lee.

The 10th of Nisan is April 8. Ez 40 mentions the temple to start on that day. Coupled with 2025 being a Jubilee year.

 

[Spartan Sprinter]

The 10th of Nisan is April 8. Ez 40 mentions the temple to start on that day. Coupled with 2025 being a Jubilee year.

No real significant temple news that i can see ?

Have you heard anything ?

 

[Kaatje]

Another false prophet bites the dust.

 

[TCC]

No real significant temple news that i can see ?

Have you heard anything ?

No. I never really lined up Ez 40 with the tribulation temple. To me its the 1,000 year reign one. But hey, if it is the trib one (or both), I can see why some would see that date. There was someone who had a lot of clout. Very schooled. Very sincere. Very sound. I asked someone in moderation on our forum to look into it for me. What they thought. And they thought it was very sound approaches. But of course no one on our forum goes for date setting.

So i asked this video commentator what they will do if April 8 comes and there is no temple? I asked respectfully. Like, "Do they have any alternative views to explain that?" And they just stopped commenting to me altogether. I was pretty sure it is too early. I kinda go by providence more than how evangelicals might normally try to see timing issues. And to me, it was to soon. That is why i asked. My sense leans between summer 2026 and Fall 2028 (with a heavier lean toward the former). I can explain this providentially. But of course that does not make it accurate. i just was hopeful the person doing those videos would be able to answer if April 8 goes by and no temple. Hoping for some other potential details of consideration. I'm not with the whole date setting thing. But I can give opinions as to what i base things on. But they would not.

In some ways i am relieved because it kind of leans in favor of my view to see April 8 come and go. lol. The reason is because this person had years of study and several books out. Extremely well studied. I just did not agree with the framework. But was open. My framework is like Beetleguise in comparison. So far it is pretty water tight...lol. But i am always interested in leaks and purposely set out for my self to drain its potential...lol. But that is just kinda how i do eschatology.

Its a weird experience for me, because I see how they lined things up. And it makes a whole lot of sense. More than my view. But there was one aspect that would have done away with my perspective. But it never washed my view up. Just kind of made it stronger...lol. Which is a bit creepy. Because as much as I talk a good game in opposition to staple evangelical eschatology, in my heart though i am kind of rooting for them more than my take. In some ways, i kind of want evangelicalism to be correct. It would free up a lot of harddrive space. lol. So it was just eerie for me for this view to be wrong. On the surface knowing it was too soon, i kind of figured. But still. I do feel the loss for them. Because if my view has anything to do with reality, its pretty twisted. lol. Like wondering who let that bull in the eschatological China shop. It far smoother for eschatology of Christian Mainstreet to be accurate. Some days i so rather prefer that.

I was just a bit shocked nothing happened. Because there were so many staple evangelical pieces connected. For me, it was really not an issue of a date setter theory. This one was quite a bit more nuanced. Which is why i asked a moderator on this forum their take. It actually has me feeling like i wanted them to be right somewhat here. I'm kind of sad it lost luster. But the person who did some videos in taking it in stride. Its just there are certain things they seem they won't talk about. Kind of like they missed the date framing but feel everything else about its approach is correct. Dang, if some of my perspectives get off the ground, this person is gonna be pretty confused over that hot mess. It just would have been nice had they been more conversational.

I just saw something else too where perhaps April 28th is the real Nissan 10. But its kind of being treated as a joke. 2025 certainly has a lot of interest. Personally i don't think so. We are too far into what we are for things to just go Christian mainstreet eschatology on us right now. I do feel though like we are kind of being tucked into bed though. lol. Blessings.

 

[LightOfMyLife]

Matthew 24:36 People need to stay with the scripture.

 

[Margery]

No. I never really lined up Ez 40 with the tribulation temple. To me its the 1,000 year reign one. But hey, if it is the trib one (or both), I can see why some would see that date. There was someone who had a lot of clout. Very schooled. Very sincere. Very sound. I asked someone in moderation on our forum to look into it for me. What they thought. And they thought it was very sound approaches. But of course no one on our forum goes for date setting.

So i asked this video commentator what they will do if April 8 comes and there is no temple? I asked respectfully. Like, "Do they have any alternative views to explain that?" And they just stopped commenting to me altogether. I was pretty sure it is too early. I kinda go by providence more than how evangelicals might normally try to see timing issues. And to me, it was to soon. That is why i asked. My sense leans between summer 2026 and Fall 2028 (with a heavier lean toward the former). I can explain this providentially. But of course that does not make it accurate. i just was hopeful the person doing those videos would be able to answer if April 8 goes by and no temple. Hoping for some other potential details of consideration. I'm not with the whole date setting thing. But I can give opinions as to what i base things on. But they would not.

In some ways i am relieved because it kind of leans in favor of my view to see April 8 come and go. lol. The reason is because this person had years of study and several books out. Extremely well studied. I just did not agree with the framework. But was open. My framework is like Beetleguise in comparison. So far it is pretty water tight...lol. But i am always interested in leaks and purposely set out for my self to drain its potential...lol. But that is just kinda how i do eschatology.

Its a weird experience for me, because I see how they lined things up. And it makes a whole lot of sense. More than my view. But there was one aspect that would have done away with my perspective. But it never washed my view up. Just kind of made it stronger...lol. Which is a bit creepy. Because as much as I talk a good game in opposition to staple evangelical eschatology, in my heart though i am kind of rooting for them more than my take. In some ways, i kind of want evangelicalism to be correct. It would free up a lot of harddrive space. lol. So it was just eerie for me for this view to be wrong. On the surface knowing it was too soon, i kind of figured. But still. I do feel the loss for them. Because if my view has anything to do with reality, its pretty twisted. lol. Like wondering who let that bull in the eschatological China shop. It far smoother for eschatology of Christian Mainstreet to be accurate. Some days i so rather prefer that.

I was just a bit shocked nothing happened. Because there were so many staple evangelical pieces connected. For me, it was really not an issue of a date setter theory. This one was quite a bit more nuanced. Which is why i asked a moderator on this forum their take. It actually has me feeling like i wanted them to be right somewhat here. I'm kind of sad it lost luster. But the person who did some videos in taking it in stride. Its just there are certain things they seem they won't talk about. Kind of like they missed the date framing but feel everything else about its approach is correct. Dang, if some of my perspectives get off the ground, this person is gonna be pretty confused over that hot mess. It just would have been nice had they been more conversational.

I just saw something else too where perhaps April 28th is the real Nissan 10. But its kind of being treated as a joke. 2025 certainly has a lot of interest. Personally i don't think so. We are too far into what we are for things to just go Christian mainstreet eschatology on us right now. I do feel though like we are kind of being tucked into bed though. lol. Blessings.

Oh my goodness. I watched 2 of her vids- when you asked me --but she seemed ok, I didn't hear any of this stuff.

I quit watching because she got into the weeds majoring on minors and I thought her calculations on the calendar stuff (jubilee cycles) that I did listen to, were way off. But she seemed to be otherwise ok. A bit tedious.

I noted that a couple of times she got cranky when people called her a date setter, so I didn't think anything more other than thinking TCC has a lot more patience to listen to her than I do, hope she stays good.

SO SHE was the bottom of all this stupidity was she???? Horrors. I take back anything I said about her seeming ok.

I can't see how anyone endures her videos long enough to watch more than a few, so I must say your stamina is way better than me. The 2 I did watch, I did use the fast forward button a bit, and she had a post on her channel that I wrote in on, but I don't even recall which one, so I don't know if she even answered.

Well.

And as others have noted, the date has come and gone and I completely forgot to buy green bananas so I could chortle at their mistake in setting a date. That said, I shouldn't laugh. At least they are looking for the Rapture like we are. Just with a misguided enthusiasm for date setting. I need to quit laughing at their misfortunes. But I do wish they'd learn, and I do wish they'd stop it, because vulnerable people get all excited and then let down.

 

[TCC]

Oh my goodness. I watched 2 of her vids- when you asked me --but she seemed ok, I didn't hear any of this stuff.

I quit watching because she got into the weeds majoring on minors and I thought her calculations on the calendar stuff (jubilee cycles) that I did listen to, were way off. But she seemed to be otherwise ok. A bit tedious.

I noted that a couple of times she got cranky when people called her a date setter, so I didn't think anything more other than thinking TCC has a lot more patience to listen to her than I do, hope she stays good.

SO SHE was the bottom of all this stupidity was she???? Horrors. I take back anything I said about her seeming ok.

I can't see how anyone endures her videos long enough to watch more than a few, so I must say your stamina is way better than me. The 2 I did watch, I did use the fast forward button a bit, and she had a post on her channel that I wrote in on, but I don't even recall which one, so I don't know if she even answered.

Well.

And as others have noted, the date has come and gone and I completely forgot to buy green bananas so I could chortle at their mistake in setting a date. That said, I shouldn't laugh. At least they are looking for the Rapture like we are. Just with a misguided enthusiasm for date setting. I need to quit laughing at their misfortunes. But I do wish they'd learn, and I do wish they'd stop it, because vulnerable people get all excited and then let down.

Thanks for your reply Margery. I think it might have been more than her view. If some of the bigger channels are commenting, it likely spread a bit wider. For me she was easy to listen to in the background. That content creator was really not a date setter. But her work led her to (forced her to) land on some dates. I don't even mind that so much. Like if I thought the rapture would happen on July 4th 2026 (America becomes 250), i'd probably make a lot of people mad. But I'd just say, I believe its on that date, here's why...bla BLA bla. And likely forget about it and see what is else is going on. Because we know we are probably going to be wrong. But I'd have all kinds of empathy for those who disagree. And talk to anyone...because its probably wrong...lol. But she's not exactly like that. A true newbie scholarish figure. Very skilled in what she does. But she did say that she does have great self control but very poor patience with people. I'm one of them. lol

By the way I did nothing to taunt. I actually respect her work as you could see some of it was pretty dang solid. I even liked the rodeo show of considering Ez 40 as the tribulation temple possibility. I actually still do. I have not heard anyone else venture there. So it was intriguing. But the way I see it we are all in this together. And I just really think that John 15:15 (at its heart) is somewhat prophetic in that loving one another deeper resonates well with the Father in what He shows. So like in that sense.

So thanks for given some feedback for me Margery. You know I did consider for a moment, "Wow is the temple building that close possibly?" But my own providential views would have me way out in some other weeds not even close to that. But knowing I could be out to lunch anywhere, It did cause me pause. The main reason my providential takes would keep me from buying into it too much (that a temple would just suddenly be on the radar) is that right now America is presented with quite a bit of new nuance. Plenty of controversy. But plenty of new venture. Since Israel is so key in that relationship, I would have to put all my chips or most on a bit longer of a game. Because what is forming around us seems to scream "new stuff going down--maybe pay attention." And so that simpleton providential whetted finger in the wind seeme to be a bit more accurate at least for now. But I must admit that I don't exactly respect a whetted finger to see more than all that research she diligently and honestly did. It kinda feels wrong....lol. And maybe it will be. But in a way I kind of wanted her to be right. Not because I wanted to go home yesterday. But just that it seemed too match better than what i've been looking at and she probably should get the blue ribbon. "A" for effort.

In any event thanks for making yourself available Margery. And letting me know you could see where some core study was solid. Sometimes its good for me to check, because with some of the angles I choose to look at things by...I do ask myself from time to time if something sounds strong is it just that I have gotten so far off the beaten path, and I'm just seeing things? I have no idea where that channel and take things now. But I honestly would hope things don't get for her so bent out of shape she looses too much perspective. Only if it brought her to have more humble conversations. But for 20 seconds I would smile a little to see her flounder a bit if Providence goes some certain ways. But more so, I would not take joy in watchng suffocating under the weight of one's own views. Sometimes I feel like I go through that. And it is so much better to just let things be and regroup in the morning. She seems solid enough even in the midst of her ship sailing. So as she regroups it would be amazing if sh'ed every talk with me in the future. Not to sell her my drift. But to hopefully perhaps challenge some of her leanings in a healthy way. And in so doing I believe I would probably pick sone helpful details up too along the way of that from her. But it can't be done if she is too far trenched in her approaches to consider other factors that might matter. Blessings dear sister

 

[TCC]

No real significant temple news that i can see ?

Have you heard anything ?

Just an updated thought on what I shared originally here. I noted earlier that I favored a 2026 likely rapture timeframe (perhaps this is more like a sport if sports where mirages). This is based mostly on socio-political leanings. I suppose that timeframe (just like the year we are currently in as well) is as good as any, right? But just for the record, to me the socio-poliitical lineup in relation to Ez 38 is more the match under consideration. So I guess in that sense it would be more biblical than socio-political providential developments (but obviously the two would overlap). Since it is impossible to gauge the future timing, perhaps it could be 2026. But as I continue in research, what seems to be somewhat eye opening is what things might look like under certain different conditions.

Socio-political manuerverings that would be providential matches with Ez 38 conditions would seem to be conditioned on at what speed things are changing or can change. Even though it looks like a Trump America is moving pretty fast, we obviously see plenty of roadblocks and obsticals along the way (like left leaning globalist countermoves). It would seem certain objectives in the Trump admin have a need to reach a certain point by summer 2026. And so it would seem that some things that would have to be in place by that time, might have been enough reorganizing to be nearest to a potential Ez 38 line-up. But what opens a potentially new can of worms is this: What if the Trump admin objective is to have certain things in play by summer 2026 also include strategies to take the House fully and the Senate fully (having clear and free majority margins)? What America would look like under full House and Senate compliance under a Trump admin would be massively colossal difference in contrast to momentumn we now see in operation in the current pace of the Trump admin (merely as it is still confirming appointments of departments and just kind of getting started).

How to exactly factor in what levers in social order could be in place by November 2026 (our midterm elections), and what levers in social order could be in complete full throttle mode with both houses onboard is anyone's guess. But if both houses do end up onboard, along with whatever momentum previously ramped up to by that time, the robust political machinery of America would bring the US into Titan like operating status. And this trajectory is very intriguing to consider. Will the church still be here to see what America unleashed would look and operat like for 2 years? We don't know. But as history would have it, the US has an interest to overcome decades of globalist strategies having eroded our social fabric. What that looks like fully armed, oh my. As those implications would be staggering, it would be quite a season to witness. Even by today's standards of how much we might see so much going on "off the hook," already. What adding steroids to something already on steroids would be , would be eally hard to project. But because of this near term condition potential, the 2028/2030 timeframe of age of grace transition to tribulation age proper would certainly historically be during a completely likely power moment in history certainly the world has not seen (short of the flood and the cross). Because of the enormity potential, perhaps the latter years are maybe even a greater obvious timeframe of consideration for a grand super-condition of majesterial proportion inaugurating an Ez 38 theme park climate. Wow. Well ...ust a thought. But pretty exciting to consider as we go. Blessings dear brother.

 

[Spartan Sprinter]

Just an updated thought on what I shared originally here. I noted earlier that I favored a 2026 likely rapture timeframe (perhaps this is more like a sport if sports where mirages). This is based mostly on socio-political leanings. I suppose that timeframe (just like the year we are currently in as well) is as good as any, right? But just for the record, to me the socio-poliitical lineup in relation to Ez 38 is more the match under consideration. So I guess in that sense it would be more biblical than socio-political providential developments (but obviously the two would overlap). Since it is impossible to gauge the future timing, perhaps it could be 2026. But as I continue in research, what seems to be somewhat eye opening is what things might look like under certain different conditions.

Socio-political manuerverings that would be providential matches with Ez 38 conditions would seem to be conditioned on at what speed things are changing or can change. Even though it looks like a Trump America is moving pretty fast, we obviously see plenty of roadblocks and obsticals along the way (like left leaning globalist countermoves). It would seem certain objectives in the Trump admin have a need to reach a certain point by summer 2026. And so it would seem that some things that would have to be in place by that time, might have been enough reorganizing to be nearest to a potential Ez 38 line-up. But what opens a potentially new can of worms is this: What if the Trump admin objective is to have certain things in play by summer 2026 also include strategies to take the House fully and the Senate fully (having clear and free majority margins)? What America would look like under full House and Senate compliance under a Trump admin would be massively colossal difference in contrast to momentumn we now see in operation in the current pace of the Trump admin (merely as it is still confirming appointments of departments and just kind of getting started).

How to exactly factor in what levers in social order could be in place by November 2026 (our midterm elections), and what levers in social order could be in complete full throttle mode with both houses onboard is anyone's guess. But if both houses do end up onboard, along with whatever momentum previously ramped up to by that time, the robust political machinery of America would bring the US into Titan like operating status. And this trajectory is very intriguing to consider. Will the church still be here to see what America unleashed would look and operat like for 2 years? We don't know. But as history would have it, the US has an interest to overcome decades of globalist strategies having eroded our social fabric. What that looks like fully armed, oh my. As those implications would be staggering, it would be quite a season to witness. Even by today's standards of how much we might see so much going on "off the hook," already. What adding steroids to something already on steroids would be , would be eally hard to project. But because of this near term condition potential, the 2028/2030 timeframe of age of grace transition to tribulation age proper would certainly historically be during a completely likely power moment in history certainly the world has not seen (short of the flood and the cross). Because of the enormity potential, perhaps the latter years are maybe even a greater obvious timeframe of consideration for a grand super-condition of majesterial proportion inaugurating an Ez 38 theme park climate. Wow. Well ...ust a thought. But pretty exciting to consider as we go. Blessings dear brother.

AHAHAHah im also leaning towards a 2026 rapture hope myself