US official suggests Trump will revive 2020 Israel-Palestinian peace plan

Hook said that the 2020 Palestinian-Israeli peace plan would satisfy Saudi Arabia’s demands for normalization.
A special envoy in the previous Trump Administration suggested that an Israel-Palestinian peace plan considered in 2020, known as the “Deal of the Century,” may be revived.

Brian Hook, a special envoy for Iran during Trump’s previous administration, now serves as Trump’s senior aide and is expected to lead the President-elect’s transition team in the State Department.
In a CNN interview, Hook was asked about the potential normalization of relations between Israel and Saudi Arabia.

Hook said that the 2020 Palestinian-Israeli peace plan would satisfy Saudi Arabia’s demands for normalization, namely, the establishment of a Palestinian State while preserving Israel’s security.

Hook said, “Much of that work is still relevant today,” referring to the peace plan. However, he admitted that Israelis in the post-October 7th reality aren’t that committed to the idea of Palestinian statehood.

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US official suggests Trump will revive 2020 Israel-Palestinian peace plan

Hook said that the 2020 Palestinian-Israeli peace plan would satisfy Saudi Arabia's demands for normalization.

worldisraelnews.com

 

[1LoverofGod]

 

[Margery]

well this should be interesting! I remember being amazed and fascinated at all the twists and turns that peace plan took from Trump's first days in office to the moment in late January when it was finally released into the open.

The one that replaced it quickly- the Abraham Accords didn't have near the opposition and strange stuff happening.

That Peace Plan divided Israel though, and if it's pulled back off the shelf, dusted off and set in motion again, I don't think there will be a dull moment to be had. Netanyahu had a difficult time saying no to a friend like Trump who had blessed Israel so much. I think that dynamic is again in motion.

Meanwhile the Abe Accords seem to be giving the Saudis a role that seems to fit with Ezek 38 - as part of the group that questions the Russian coalition's motives to invade Israel.

 

[1LoverofGod]

well this should be interesting! I remember being amazed and fascinated at all the twists and turns that peace plan took from Trump's first days in office to the moment in late January when it was finally released into the open.

The one that replaced it quickly- the Abraham Accords didn't have near the opposition and strange stuff happening.

That Peace Plan divided Israel though, and if it's pulled back off the shelf, dusted off and set in motion again, I don't think there will be a dull moment to be had. Netanyahu had a difficult time saying no to a friend like Trump who had blessed Israel so much. I think that dynamic is again in motion.

Meanwhile the Abe Accords seem to be giving the Saudis a role that seems to fit with Ezek 38 - as part of the group that questions the Russian coalition's motives to invade Israel.

The drafter of the Abrahamic Accords is Trump's son in-law Jared Kushner, a Jew, and it's been reported that he's going to be an Advisor for Trump, and likely will be advising on the Middle East affairs again.

 

[Margery]

The drafter of the Abrahamic Accords is Trump's son in-law Jared Kushner, a Jew, and it's been reported that he's going to be an Advisor for Trump, and likely will be advising on the Middle East affairs again.

And for that reason alone, I think both those deals, the original Trump Peace Plan that came out in Jan 2020 before the you know what, and the Abe Accords that replaced it, and put the Peace Plan back on the shelf

both will be back in play because the designers- Trump and Kushner along with MBS the Saudi Crown Prince, are all keen to get moving on the Abe Accords for sure and I keep thinking that the original Peace Plan will have it's day eventually.

The Abe Accords mesh with the situation outlined in Ezek 38- Sheba, Dedan and Tarshish plus cubs.

OH and not to side track it too much but I was listening to Chuck Missler on the subject of Tarshish last night, and he was explaining chapter and verse why Tarshish had to be Britain and he didn't even use my favourite in Isaiah about the ships of Tarshish bringing the Jews back in the end times. He was drawing on archaeology relating to the Phoenician culture which was headquartered in Tyre (Lebanon) back in Ezekiels time. They ROUTINELY took tin from Cornwall. He was teaching on Ezek 25, 26 & 27.

 

[1LoverofGod]

And for that reason alone, I think both those deals, the original Trump Peace Plan that came out in Jan 2020 before the you know what, and the Abe Accords that replaced it, and put the Peace Plan back on the shelf

both will be back in play because the designers- Trump and Kushner along with MBS the Saudi Crown Prince, are all keen to get moving on the Abe Accords for sure and I keep thinking that the original Peace Plan will have it's day eventually.

The Abe Accords mesh with the situation outlined in Ezek 38- Sheba, Dedan and Tarshish plus cubs.

OH and not to side track it too much but I was listening to Chuck Missler on the subject of Tarshish last night, and he was explaining chapter and verse why Tarshish had to be Britain and he didn't even use my favourite in Isaiah about the ships of Tarshish bringing the Jews back in the end times. He was drawing on archaeology relating to the Phoenician culture which was headquartered in Tyre (Lebanon) back in Ezekiels time. They ROUTINELY took tin from Cornwall. He was teaching on Ezek 25, 26 & 27.

I'll have to listen to that Chuck Missler teaching, sounds interesting. Do you have a link or can I find it on his Koinonia site?

I think the Israeli's have a high esteem for Kushner. Look at this article that came out on the JPost on the 11th...

Dear Jared Kushner, the Jewish people need you​

Dear Jared Kushner,

Former senior advisor to the president of the United States, son-in-law of President-Elect Donald J. Trump.

It’s time to return to the table.

In recent years, you have been instrumental in reshaping Israel’s place in the Middle East.

Through the Abraham Accords and countless behind-the-scenes efforts, you brought peace closer to reality and strengthened Israel’s position globally.

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Dear Jared Kushner, the Jewish people need you - editorial

Jared, you have proven time and again that you have the skills, the knowledge, and the tenacity to make a difference.

m.jpost.com

 

[Margery]

- YouTube

Auf YouTube findest du die angesagtesten Videos und Tracks. Außerdem kannst du eigene Inhalte hochladen und mit Freunden oder gleich der ganzen Welt teilen.

youtu.be

BTW the title lists ch 26 on, but it covers 25. There isn't one specifically for ch 25.

What's interesting is that even though a lot of the bits from ch 25-35 happened in the past - they were fulfilled under Nebuchadnezzar or Alexander the Great there ARE bits like the last half of chap 32 for example that seem to fit today.

I'm kind of hyperfocusing on Ezekiel again, only this time ch 25-35.

Chuck points out that the countries in question are all muslim today which fits with Bill Salus and his Ps 83 inner ring, plus the eventual Ezek 38 and 39.

But it was very instructive when Chuck went into the Phoenician history of sea trade with Britain for Tin. One of the main arguments for Tarshish being Spain or anywhere but Britain is the persistent belief that sea trade couldn't happen between Lebanon in the Med, and Britain outside the Med.

Never mind that Thor Heyerdahl proved that Egyptions could have made it all the way to the Americas in his voyage of Ra expedition or of old historical sources claiming more than one contact with North America from the Med.

Anyway it's interesting to listen to.

 

[Tall Timbers]

However, he admitted that Israelis in the post-October 7th reality aren’t that committed to the idea of Palestinian statehood.

Me neither. Let them be citizens of an existing state like Jordan. Remove them all from what is Israel's land.

 

[Tall Timbers]

The drafter of the Abrahamic Accords is Trump's son in-law Jared Kushner, a Jew, and it's been reported that he's going to be an Advisor for Trump, and likely will be advising on the Middle East affairs again.

I believe he and his wife have already said they won't be involved in this 2nd administration. Have their minds been changed?

Trump son-in-law Kushner rules out joining next administration, FT says​

Nov 8 (Reuters) - Jared Kushner, son-in-law of U.S. President-elect Donald Trump, will not return to the White House, the Financial Times reported on Friday.

Kushner could advise on Middle East policy, the report said, citing people familiar with the matter.

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/trump-son-in-law-kushner-rules-out-joining-next-administration-ft-says-2024-11-08/

As an adviser, if he does that, he'll probably end up pretty involved since he has skin in the game from his past involvement.

 

[LightOfMyLife]

It sounds like Trump may be dividing the land of Israel which is a no no. God gave the land to Israel. So we may be going home soon!

 

[Work4Peanuts]

Maybe, maybe not. He's talking about making Mike Huckabee ambassador to Israel. Huckabee was a Southern Baptist pastor before he went into politics. He knows better. If Trump will listen to him, things might go a bit differently this time around.

Trump picks hardliner Mike Huckabee as US ambassador to Israel

President-elect also taps John Ratcliffe to be director of CIA and Steve Witkoff to be special envoy to Middle East

www.theguardian.com

 

[1LoverofGod]

I believe he and his wife have already said they won't be involved in this 2nd administration. Have their minds been changed?

Trump son-in-law Kushner rules out joining next administration, FT says​

Nov 8 (Reuters) - Jared Kushner, son-in-law of U.S. President-elect Donald Trump, will not return to the White House, the Financial Times reported on Friday.

Kushner could advise on Middle East policy, the report said, citing people familiar with the matter.

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/trump-son-in-law-kushner-rules-out-joining-next-administration-ft-says-2024-11-08/

As an adviser, if he does that, he'll probably end up pretty involved since he has skin in the game from his past involvement.

That's correct. Kushner will not be in Trump's Cabinet but will only serve as an advisor.

Jared Kushner to Serve as Trump Senior Adviser
Jared Kushner, husband of Trump’s daughter Ivanka, will take on a key role in his father-in-law’s administration, according to a senior transition official. Kushner, a major New York real estate investor, was an influential behind-the-scenes player in Trump’s presidential campaign. Kushner faces questions about potential conflicts of interest.

President-elect Donald Trump's son-in-law Jared Kushner, who emerged as a key figure in the Republican’s successful 2016 campaign, will be named senior adviser to the president, the campaign announced Monday.

“Jared has been a tremendous asset and trusted advisor throughout the campaign and transition and I am proud to have him in a key leadership role in my administration," Trump said in a statement announcing the appointment.

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Jared Kushner to Serve as Trump Senior Adviser

Jared Kushner, husband of Trump’s daughter Ivanka, will take on a key role in his father-in-law’s administration, according to a senior transition official. Kushner, a major New York real estate investor, was an influential behind-the-scenes player in Trump’s presidential campaign. Kushner faces...

www.nbcnews.com

 

[1LoverofGod]

Me neither. Let them be citizens of an existing state like Jordan. Remove them all from what is Israel's land.

I don't know about the average Palestinian people, but I think most of them have been brainwashed, but those who have been "governing" them have not wanted a two state plan. Two state plans have been offered to them on five separate occasions and each time they have said no.
Under the Clinton administration the Oslo agreement was drawn up that would have given them statehood and they declined. They always decline.They want All of the land of Israel, and they want no Jews in the land. That's why they say from the river to the sea.
They want to return to what Was Palestine before Israel became a nation again. We know it will never happen.
But the Palestinians won't accept it that it won't happen.
The UN complicates everything because while it was the unanimous approval by the UN after President Truman came up with the resolution for statehood for the Jews with Israel as their stare in 1948, but the same UN that approved the resolution turned around in 2022 and they publicly stated that giving the Jews the land of Israel was a “catastrophe" and now the UN claims that The Jews are occupying the land.
It's a demonic influenced UN.
God has the last Word. He has already spoken it and it will come to pass that Israel will never belong to anyone but His people with whom He made the land covenant with.

 

[Work4Peanuts]

...
God has the last Word. He has already spoken it and it will come to pass that Israel will never belong to anyone but His people with whom He made the land covenant with.

This.

 

[Andiamo]

He's talking about making Mike Huckabee ambassador to Israel.

Just heard this and I am thrilled. He couldn’t be more perfect. I do believe that Pres Trump has been mulling over these appointments for the past four years!

 

[LightOfMyLife]

Mike Huckabee is the perfect choice he truly cares about the Jewish people, and I he explains to Trump why he should have no part in dividing Gods land.

 

[Andiamo]

Not thrilled at all about Jared Kushner. Again. Don’t trust this guy at all, I just don’t.
Well, the Lord will use him, that’s for sure.

 

[1LoverofGod]

It sounds like Trump may be dividing the land of Israel which is a no no. God gave the land to Israel. So we may be going home soon!

It may be possible if Trump works with Saudi Arabia on the peace plan, because Saudi Arabia would have influence in the Middle East, it will likely be agreed upon by Israel even if it means dividing the land.
Yes, The Rapture must be just around the corner for us and we're outa here, and then after we're gone, could this be the peace plan that will be confirmed by Antichrist? If so it will be a peace plan to Israel's detriment (Isaiah 28:15), and after they suffer for a little while they will call on Messiah Yeshua and He will come and save Israel.

 

[Margery]

Not thrilled at all about Jared Kushner. Again. Don’t trust this guy at all, I just don’t.
Well, the Lord will use him, that’s for sure.

your instincts might be correct.

He's got connections- including to the WEF's Klaus Schwab. He and Ivanka are both part of the Young Global Leaders which is more of a networking group an offshoot of Davos - one of Klaus Schwab's projects. This gives the WEF a bit of an inside track into the Trump family. I don't for a minute think either Kushner or his wife would do anything to harm Trump but they may have blind spots about their friends and they aren't necessarily conservatives.

One of the connections that Kushner has is a friendship with Mohammed Bin Salman the Crown Prince of Saudi Arabia. MBS has given off an air of being warm to Israel- it's why Kushner involved him during the original peace talks and again during the Abraham Accords. MBS has to be careful because his father doesn't approve of Jews or Israel at all and there are plenty of princes who would love to take his place. But MBS also knows how to say what people want to hear in order to advance Saudi interests. He is a very charming politician to the outside world. Reminds me of Putin. Smiling face, but don't get in his way.

The tale about MBS having a Jewish mother is an odd story that recently emerged. It's not true. She is a Bedouin tribe member.

Fahda bint Falah Al Hithlain - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

My take is that MBS is doing whatever MBS thinks is good for the house of Saud and MBS in particular. He's feeding the Israeli's and the Christians an interesting lie for purposes unknown. He DOES want the Abe Accords to work, maybe that is part of it. Tell them what they want to hear and warm the crowd up.

More on MBS and his mother here from BBC Mohammed bin Salman: Spies and diplomats reveal inside story of the Saudi crown prince

He might have said something that was misunderstood by Mike Evans I think it was who reported that story - I know we had a thread on it. Edited to add, we do, and it came from a good source- Jerusalem Post. That sounds like MBS handing Mike Evans a line knowing that it would go down great with Israelis and Trumps' Christian base.

MBS's motives seem to be improving the Saudi economy far into the future beyond the oil economy which supports all the many princelings and hangers on in the Saudi court. It's why he wants closer ties with Israel, if the news articles from the original peace talk time were correct. Also why he's invested in building NEOM and that train hub or whatever it is that was talked up a few years ago.

Certainly the friendship with Kushner has been good for MBS- warmer closer ties to Israel with financial benefits in future and an inside track with Trump.

Bottom line MBS is a dangerous and unscrupulous man that Kushner seems to trust.

 

[GLC11]

Not thrilled at all about Jared Kushner. Again. Don’t trust this guy at all, I just don’t.
Well, the Lord will use him, that’s for sure.

Same!