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Uh Oh... The Real Reason Trump Cancelled The Strike on Iran is Worse Than You Think...

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This episode argues that America's Gulf "allies" are no longer behaving like allies. Meira K walks you through the hidden architecture behind President Trump’s last-minute stand-down, laying out a provocative thesis that Saudi Arabia, Qatar and the UAE pressured Washington by restricting airspace access and, in Qatar’s case, limiting the use of a U.S. base...not out of love for Tehran, but out of fear of what regime change would do to their economies and their China-backed hedges. Along the way, you'll learn the “Twin Pillar” strategy, the petrodollar system, why 1979 rewired the region, how containment shaped decades of war and why today’s Saudi pivot toward China (and toward Qatar as mediator) changes the strategic map. The punchline is aimed straight at Israel’s future: don’t chase warm alliances - build cold leverage, and Israel’s emerging infrastructure role may be the most important, and most underreported, move on the board.

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This is placed in Israeli category because it demonstrates (on expresso, mind you) how Israel is likely poised to save America.
 
I took a quick look, it's an opinion piece from JNS news, a reputable news source in Israel, very pro Netanyahu. As an opinion piece it is probably designed to provoke thought.

Right now there is a bit of a divide between Washington and Israel on this matter, and this may reflect that position.
 
I took a quick look, it's an opinion piece from JNS news, a reputable news source in Israel, very pro Netanyahu. As an opinion piece it is probably designed to provoke thought.

Right now there is a bit of a divide between Washington and Israel on this matter, and this may reflect that position.
Thanks Margery. Yes that channel is extremely pro-Israel. Don't get me wrong, I am pro-Israel too. But in general i tend to be somewhat middle of the road on Israeli/Arab differences. Not because I think the Arab world is more right than Israel. It's just that there are probably some things about Israel that are less than stellar and I like to not be overly influenced by my partiality toward Israel anyway. So this channel, for me, did not come naturally. lol. I have grown to like her approach in contrast to some heavy-duty social media warfare i am a kin to take interest in (differing aspects on varying sides of the issues).

In general i am far more pro Israeli centrist that pure pro Israel in general. Or at least i tell myself that. At my core i tend to see Israel as mostly in the right (for biblical and other reasons) but as a rule i tend to push back on myself quite a bit. So coming of age "finally" to a channel like this one shown has been a slow negotiation process for me. FYI -- I do pulse Candace for social media marker and pulsing reasons. This channel is extremely helpful in countering what is known as the woke right view (Tucker, Megan Kelly etc.). I like true balance. This channel to me....is true balance. lol. So thanks for weighing in, much, :heart:
 
I did not open the link since I doubt the synopsis of what you wrote is accurate. If those countries mentioned have issues with Trump, or stopped him from attacking Iran, why then did they not stop him last year when he dismantled their nuke facilities?
Her approach was more or less documentary commentary. It would be like if we went to school in high school and the teacher had a guest speaker for the class for that one meeting. And our teacher filled that speaker with expresso, and pushed her out in front of the class to give a jet flight tour overview of the sociological/sociopolitical developing interests of the differing countries in that region. You ask a great question. But prior to my stab at an answer: Samples:

* Saudi Arabia needs Iran because (a) a democratic Iran would cause Saudi value to fail before the West (watch video to find out why--this is not the only channel with that view) AND (b) If Iran is not defanged, its power brokering abilities to chock oil strait of hormuz will affect Saudi assets greatly.

* Cheat Sheet (In Part/There is More)-- Commentator sees Israel as the hero because behind all the scenes Israel is building a behind the scenes pipeline with Saudi Arabia. Right now Iran has too strong a foothold on oil routing. Once pipeline is completed, it places Israel by contrast in a far more powerful negotiating position globally. Good for America. Good for the West.

It really is worth a listen as a perspective because it brings fast bullet speed context to the many differing nations involved in all of this. And how those nations look socio-politically in reference to one another (at least potentially...from a wider perspective view perhaps). 🤷‍♂️

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To answer your question, I believe Trump does not always listen to what other countries think. Back then it is possible Saudi Arabia dd not think he would do it. If memory serves me correct, it appears that the bombing came right after the middle east tour where Saudi Arabia was sure Trump was drunk on them. And it seemed like Trump's chin was being tickled away from Israel a bit. Roomers that Trump and Israel were not on speaking terms or that Trump snubbed Israel. Arabia would have kind of been drunk off of all of that. Plus please note, America did not ask for or use Saudi airstrips to launch attacks.

In light of this situation, everyone sitting on the evening couch eating pop-corn together over the bloody Iranian massacre is pretty much the only thing showing on movie night. So its kind of hard for onions "there" in "that context," not to come out in between handfuls of popcorn. That is how i would see it. Hope that makes some sense. Thanks for asking and checking it out brother as far as you have. Blessings.
 
Thanks Margery. Yes that channel is extremely pro-Israel. Don't get me wrong, I am pro-Israel too. But in general i tend to be somewhat middle of the road on Israeli/Arab differences. Not because I think the Arab world is more right than Israel. It's just that there are probably some things about Israel that are less than stellar and I like to not be overly influenced by my partiality toward Israel anyway. So this channel, for me, did not come naturally. lol. I have grown to like her approach in contrast to some heavy-duty social media warfare i am a kin to take interest in (differing aspects on varying sides of the issues).

In general i am far more pro Israeli centrist that pure pro Israel in general. Or at least i tell myself that. At my core i tend to see Israel as mostly in the right (for biblical and other reasons) but as a rule i tend to push back on myself quite a bit. So coming of age "finally" to a channel like this one shown has been a slow negotiation process for me. FYI -- I do pulse Candace for social media marker and pulsing reasons. This channel is extremely helpful in countering what is known as the woke right view (Tucker, Megan Kelly etc.). I like true balance. This channel to me....is true balance. lol. So thanks for weighing in, much, :heart:
I'm sort of similar in relation to your view on Israel.

Yes i pray for Jerusalem and yes i do mostly support Israel but there are also things Israel or their military does sometimes that i'm not 100% supportive on.

It's a small bug bear of mine and i don't mean any offense by it but i see a tendency in the Pro Israel Christian circle to cheerlead literally everything they do and sometimes turn a blind eye to some of the negative things that they may do on occasion as well.
 
I'm sort of similar in relation to your view in Israel.

Yes i pray for Jerusalem and yes i do mostly support Israel but there are also things Israel or their military does sometimes that i'm not 100% supportive on.

It's a small bug bear of mine and i don't mean any offense by it but i see a tendency in the Pro Israel Christian circle to cheerlead literally everything they and sometimes turn a blind eye to some of the negative things that they may do on occasion as well
Thanks brother. Yeah there is a belief in some circles that the whole Zionist/Evangelical connection is contrived by Rothchild...lol. I understand why some believe that. Or I understand how someone like Dr. Shiva (world famous during COVID exposure) thinks that too. But seeing modern day Israel as a makeshift Rothchild project (at the time of the Balfour Declaration Rothchild was a zoologist kicked out of banking and given free reign to pursue his world collection love of animals--no conspiracy...lol) plays into the hands of preterists and a position on the rise unfortunately in the alt woke right view, Nick Fuentes. When we see where that abnormal thinking goes....its good to be open minded, but not foolish. I go by Ez 37. I believe that is how Israel was brought back. And that it is Israel because of God's prediction it would be. Plus everything else we know about Israel in the word, amen.

But yeah, i think there can be a tendency though to give cart blanche ethics to an apostate nation. Even though it is a people of God back inline of transition toward Him, amen. Israel is still in apostasy. A totally unique version of it though...lol. So i just bring that up in case it might come across that i am Bibi's number one supporter or something. That would by no means provide a proper context of where i am coming from. I showed this channel because this girl has heart. Ive grown very fond of her even though i don't always agree obviously.

I'm the kind of person that can be jaded somewhat easily. So it is something i literally have to work at not being. Having interest and sporting that channel is kind of what that looks like in exercise...lol. I'm kind of the farthest things from an Israeli-supersupporter. But yeah in general, I know God's plans for them. Awesome. I would love to move to israel and share Christ with them. I want to get with ministries that do that. Amen. This is the season whoaaa. :)

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Conversely since it is brought up, I know it is commonly understood that the Abraham Accords is kind of blasphemous. But in light of end times and all the movement we have seen over the past decade in how God has moved in the Arab world bringing many Muslims to Himself, I kind of see the Abraham Accords as sort of a social emblem of God's marker on the Arab world. As Evangelicals we can tend to see ecumenical evil in the Abraham Accords. Instead though it just reminds me (almost like a visual mascot of a spiritual occurrent reality) of Iran becoming the number one country converting to Christianity. To me, the Abraham Accords is a socio-political artifact of God's triumph over Islam...lol. Although, seen as is....typically that is quite the hard sell today. There by the grace of God go any and all. Amen. Thanks for sharing brother. Blessings.
 
Thanks brother. Yeah there is a belief in some circles that the whole Zionist/Evangelical connection is contrived by Rothchild...lol. I understand why some believe that. Or I understand how someone like Dr. Shiva (world famous during COVID exposure) thinks that too. But seeing modern day Israel as a makeshift Rothchild project (at the time of the Balfour Declaration Rothchild was a zoologist kicked out of banking and given free reign to pursue his world collection love of animals--no conspiracy...lol) plays into the hands of preterists and a position on the rise unfortunately in the alt woke right view, Nick Fuentes. When we see where that abnormal thinking goes....its good to be open minded, but not foolish. I go by Ez 37. I believe that is how Israel was brought back. And that it is Israel because of God's prediction it would be. Plus everything else we know about Israel in the word, amen.

But yeah, i think there can be a tendency though to give cart blanche ethics to an apostate nation. Even though it is a people of God back inline of transition toward Him, amen. Israel is still in apostasy. A totally unique version of it though...lol. So i just bring that up in case it might come across that i am Bibi's number one supporter or something. That would by no means provide a proper context of where i am coming from. I showed this channel because this girl has heart. Ive grown very fond of her even though i don't always agree obviously.

I'm the kind of person that can be jaded somewhat easily. So it is something i literally have to work at not being. Having interest and sporting that channel is kind of what that looks like in exercise...lol. I'm kind of the farthest things from an Israeli-supersupporter. But yeah in general, I know God's plans for them. Awesome. I would love to move to israel and share Christ with them. I want to get with ministries that do that. Amen. This is the season whoaaa. :)

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Conversely since it is brought up, I know it is commonly understood that the Abraham Accords is kind of blasphemous. But in light of end times and all the movement we have seen over the past decade in how God has moved in the Arab world bringing many Muslims to Himself, I kind of see the Abraham Accords as sort of a social emblem of God's marker on the Arab world. As Evangelicals we can tend to see ecumenical evil in the Abraham Accords. Instead though it just reminds me (almost like a visual mascot of a spiritual occurrent reality) of Iran becoming the number one country converting to Christianity. To me, the Abraham Accords is a socio-political artifact of God's triumph over Islam...lol. Although, seen as is....typically that is quite the hard sell today. There by the grace of God go any and all. Amen. Thanks for sharing brother. Blessings.

One of my Egyptian Jewish friend's keeps sending me videos about the Jews being the perpetrators of every conspiracy and that we should hate them because the religious Jews who are hasidic or practice Judaism belittle and attack Christian's.

Time and time again i've had to pull him in line and have now gotten to the point where i've told him flat out not to send me any more of these video's and then i completely disagree on his viewpoint.

He hasn't spoken to me since then
 
One of my Egyptian Jewish friend's keeps sending me videos about the Jews being the perpetrators of every conspiracy and that we should hate them because the religious Jews who are hasidic or practice Judaism belittle and attack Christian's.

Time and time again i've had to pull him in line and have now gotten to the point where i've told him flat out not to send me any more of these video's and then i completely disagree on his viewpoint.

He hasn't spoken to me since then
I had a friend from another church. He was an attorney. He loved Frisby golf. And was a rather outspoken antisemite. At the church we were at, well I will just say it was the leading reformed church that lead the reformed world into seeing Israel's return as prophetic and that God has a plan for them (in reformed circles it tends to lean replacement like theology wise). This church was the beachhead forward movement into Israeli dispensationalism. Quite odd. I had no idea. So this guy stood out like a soar thumb. A very loving guy. Funny, not angry. Just that is the way he saw it. And he knew he looked like a weirdo....lol. Now it seems on social media to be trending in major ways.

I still think what we will likely seeing in the near term is an empowered powerful and at peace Israel. I could be wrong because its very hard to place Zech 12. Most commentators have it at the end of the trib. Which is safe because we have no exegesis in how Israel got back there after being chased by AC around the world -- and how at the end of the tribulation they will be carried by angels into the wheat barn of the 1,000 year reign (from all over the world: Matt 24:31). Maybe Zech 12 is kind of like how some see Psalm 83. That it already occurred in 1948-1970s+. Like it already went down like that. Its actually the first time i thought that...lol. But it could fit in the sense that sometimes prophecy given chips off slivers of events perhaps years or more apart in one paragraph or sentence. Thematically or like modular in thought structure. In that way, perhaps Psalm 83 and Zech 12 already happened.

Anywayz...lol. i did not really see that guy as racist. But he did seem to get derogatory at times for sure. Not sure if that is the same with him now. Some of his views i think tended to be preterist or thinking we would be back in the stone ages when Revelation hits. Meaning we would literally be back in Medieval times. Like after some kind of nuclear war or post apocalypse apocalypse. In any event it sure is a gen Z thing. And with that residue, it makes sense how near to tribulation age-ish we might be.
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