Trump postpones strikes on Iranian energy infrastructure amid 'constructive' talks to end war

[Andy C]

Trump announces 'productive' Iran talks to end conflict

President Donald Trump said the U.S. and Iran have had two days of "productive" talks to end the conflict and ordered War Secretary Pete Hegseth not to strike Iran's energy sites for five days.

www.foxnews.com

 

[Tall Timbers]

If a deal is made and we stop bombing Iran in 5 days, I believe that's enough time to complete the initial target database of approx 20,000 separate targets.

 

[Andy C]

If this war actually ends after 5 more days of bombing, its a win.

In any other past war in modern warfare history, if a country destroyed over 85 percent of the enemy’s weapons, to include factories that make their weapons, it would’ve been considered an overwhelming victory.

If there is an agreement to end hostilities, if Iran breaks the deal (highly likely they will), then the bombing resumes and the task then will be to bring the 85 percent destroyed up to 95 percent destroyed, to now include some oil facilities.

 

[Hol]

Iran Threatens U.S. Again, Denies Holding Talks After Trump Announces Pause in Attacks​

The Iranian Foreign Ministry, through the nation’s state media arms, denied President Donald Trump’s claim on Monday that the White House had begun engaging Tehran through “productive” talks that could lead to a rapid end to the ongoing war in the country.

President Trump announced a military engagement to neutralize Iran’s ability to engage in terrorist activity around the world on February 28. Dubbed “Operation Epic Fury,” the Pentagon has continued an airstrike campaign within Iran for the past month targeting Iran’s most powerful leaders alongside operations against the regime by the Israel Defense Forces (IDF). Operation Epic Fury has resulted in the elimination of dozens of high-ranking senior Iranian regime officials, including longtime “supreme leader” Ali Khamenei.

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The few remaining Iranian government leaders continued to threaten the United States on Monday in addition to the comments coming from the Foreign Ministry. Hojjatoleslam Abdollah Haji Sadeghi, an IRGC terrorist, declared that his forces “will have more surprises” for America that it has allegedly “never seen and heard of,” making the comments at a funeral for another IRGC terrorist, spokesman Ali Mohammad Naeini.

Iran Threatens U.S. Again, Denies Holding Talks After Trump Announces Pause in Attacks

The Iranian Foreign Ministry denied President Donald Trump's claim that the White House had begun engaging Tehran through "productive" talks.

www.breitbart.com

 

[Margery]

Time to finish them off, this was a delay tactic, and if the Iranian people are to trust the US and Israel enough to launch another uprising they have to know that the US and Israel won't falter in the quest to eliminate the mullahs.

 

[Hol]

Trump quips Iran needs better PR team after Tehran denies talks​

President Donald Trump on Monday quipped that Iran needed better public relations staff when pressed on statements from Tehran denying his claims of significant diplomatic talks.

"The Foreign Ministry says you're not telling the truth when it comes to [ongoing negotiations]," one reporter said, leading Trump to quip "[w]ell, they're going to have to get themselves better public relations people!"

"We have had very, very strong talks. We'll see where they lead. We have points, major points of agreement, I would say almost all points of agreement. Perhaps that hasn't been conveyed," he added.

Trump on Monday issued a 5-day pause on his plans to target the Iranian power grid, citing what he deemed productive conversations with Iran. He previously issued a two-day deadline for Iran to reopen the Strait of Hormuz, which it did not do.

Trump quips Iran needs better PR team after Tehran denies talks

Trump on Monday issued a 5-day pause on his plans to target the Iranian power grid, citing what he deemed productive conversations with Iran.

justthenews.com

 

[Hol]

Time to finish them off, this was a delay tactic, and if the Iranian people are to trust the US and Israel enough to launch another uprising they have to know that the US and Israel won't falter in the quest to eliminate the mullahs.

https://www.iranintl.com/en/202603235643

Praying for them and some reports indicate they are almost ready:
Thread 'Iranians ‘weeks away’ from another uprising, Israeli security insider says'
https://christiancommunityforum.com...uprising-israeli-security-insider-says.14419/

 

[mattfivefour]

I'm not sure that President Trump and his team understand the insanity of the Iranian leadership's theology. Everything that Trump says or does is interpreted through the regime's perceptual filters, filters that are not rational, except to those who hold to their apocalyptic eschatological theology. They are incapable of reacting in a way that the rest of the world and everybody in our experience would react. They are demonically deceived and actually welcome chaos and destruction, believing it will bring back their Mahdi (Islamic Messiah) and the world will then finally be 100% subjected to Allah.

 

[Hol]

Iran either surrenders or gets dismantled. If the US backs down, Iran will boast that’s a win

 

[Andy C]

If this war actually ends after 5 more days of bombing, its a win.

In any other past war in modern warfare history, if a country destroyed over 85 percent of the enemy’s weapons, to include factories that make their weapons, it would’ve been considered an overwhelming victory.

If there is an agreement to end hostilities, if Iran breaks the deal (highly likely they will), then the bombing resumes and the task then will be to bring the 85 percent destroyed up to 95 percent destroyed, to now include some oil facilities.

I failed to add - if in the next 5 days all our combined military objectives (USA/IDF have all been met, then a deal could be made - 100 percent our terms only.

 

[Margery]

I failed to add - if in the next 5 days all our combined military objectives (USA/IDF have all been met, then a deal could be made - 100 percent our terms only.

Hope and pray that is what happens!

 

[TCC]

I have a question to ask. They are -- kind of toxic but asked in a spirit of learning.
Blessings in advance

i like to look at counterarguments a lot. And I'd ask to please not think by this question I am going woke or something. What is true is and what is not is also. So you know i have my end times views. They pretty much have America in super favor. So its not like im looking at ways to undermine my own views. But i think it is healthy to challenge them...however perhaps grotesquely off i might be. And it is in that humble and open to learn state of heart and mind I bring this transient question:

IS ANY OF THE FOLLOWING POSSIBLE?:
This is a long and extremely raw counter view. A channel i don't watch but just came up.

• Israel's iron dome has exhausted?
• Isreal is getting more exposed serious hits.
• And for that reason Trump gave a 5 day stay.
• And maybe Iran is not talking with us? lol
• And that we might have bitten off more than we can chew?

Those are the claims of a video I just watched which has over half a million subs. Personally I don't believe we are going to see Iran end up with an upper hand here. Although there are others like a famous guy that does game theory professionally. And he believes that Iran will win this war (he also predicted Trump to win in 2024 as well as an Iran war and an Iran win. I don't see it can go that way considering where we are with everything else.

I'm just wondering what you guys might think. Like on that video i just got into the first 15 minutes at most. And although the guy is professional, you can see his deep glee in how profound he believes what he is seeing is so. Not trying to make any suffer unnecesarily through bogus leftist ideas. But maybe just on those bullet points. Possible?

Blessings.

Note: this message has been edited. --Adrian

 

[Spartan Sprinter]

I have a question to ask. They are -- kind of toxic but asked in a spirit of learning.
Blessings in advance

i like to look at counterarguments a lot. And I'd ask to please not think by this question I am going woke or something. What is true is and what is not is also. So you know i have my end times views. They pretty much have America in super favor. So its not like im looking at ways to undermine my own views. But i think it is healthy to challenge them...however perhaps grotesquely off i might be. And it is in that humble and open to learn state of heart and mind I bring this transient question:

IS ANY OF THE FOLLOWING POSSIBLE?:
This is a long and extremely raw counter view. A channel i don't watch but just came up.

• Israel's iron dome has exhausted?
• Isreal is getting more exposed serious hits.
• And for that reason Trump gave a 5 day stay.
• And maybe Iran is not talking with us? lol
• And that we might have bitten off more than we can chew?

Those are the claims of a video I just watched which has over half a million subs. Personally I don't believe we are going to see Iran end up with an upper hand here. Although there are others like a famous guy that does game theory professionally. And he believes that Iran will win this war (he also predicted Trump to win in 2024 as well as an Iran war and an Iran win. I don't see it can go that way considering where we are with everything else.

I'm just wondering what you guys might think. Like on that video i just got into the first 15 minutes at most. And although the guy is professional, you can see his deep glee in how profound he believes what he is seeing is so. Not trying to make any suffer unnecesarily through bogus leftist ideas. But maybe just on those bullet points. Possible?

Blessings.

Note: this message has been edited. --Adrian

Look on some points that may be true, i mean why extend a 48 hour deadline , why give these people a chance ?

Also the weapons could possibly be running out for both Israel and the US, why else all of the sudden is Trump asking everyone to jump in and help out if your winning so overwhelmingly ?

There's 2 sides to a story and the truth is usually somewhere in between

 

[Margery]

I have a question to ask. They are -- kind of toxic but asked in a spirit of learning.
Blessings in advance

i like to look at counterarguments a lot. And I'd ask to please not think by this question I am going woke or something. What is true is and what is not is also. So you know i have my end times views. They pretty much have America in super favor. So its not like im looking at ways to undermine my own views. But i think it is healthy to challenge them...however perhaps grotesquely off i might be. And it is in that humble and open to learn state of heart and mind I bring this transient question:

IS ANY OF THE FOLLOWING POSSIBLE?:
This is a long and extremely raw counter view. A channel i don't watch but just came up.

• Israel's iron dome has exhausted?
• Isreal is getting more exposed serious hits.
• And for that reason Trump gave a 5 day stay.
• And maybe Iran is not talking with us? lol
• And that we might have bitten off more than we can chew?

Those are the claims of a video I just watched which has over half a million subs. Personally I don't believe we are going to see Iran end up with an upper hand here. Although there are others like a famous guy that does game theory professionally. And he believes that Iran will win this war (he also predicted Trump to win in 2024 as well as an Iran war and an Iran win. I don't see it can go that way considering where we are with everything else.

I'm just wondering what you guys might think. Like on that video i just got into the first 15 minutes at most. And although the guy is professional, you can see his deep glee in how profound he believes what he is seeing is so. Not trying to make any suffer unnecesarily through bogus leftist ideas. But maybe just on those bullet points. Possible?

Blessings.

Note: this message has been edited. --Adrian

I have a thought or two to the counter view that you mention here point by point:

Israel's Iron Dome exhausted?
This question got this answer on google from The Economist (orig art behind pay wall so I quote google AI here)
"Is the Iron Dome running out of missiles?
The rumours were given fodder over the weekend when Semafor, an American website, reported that Israel had told the Trump administration it was running critically low on interceptors. The Israel Defence Forces (IDF) denied the report, claiming there was no shortage and it was “prepared for prolonged combat”.6 days ago"

My take- the Iron Dome is in good working order, and is being supplemented with newer tech such as Iron Beam. As warfare changes, so must defence systems. Whoever Semafor are, I would take the IDF over their view any day.

Israel getting more serious hits??? Not as bad as during the height of the Gaza plus Lebanon conflict although the Lebanon aspect is heating back up. Some get thru naturally, just due to sheer volume but by God's grace Israel is relatively protected still.

Reasons for Trump's 5 day stay: This is tricky, because we don't know all the information that Trump has. This is hard to say why. Weapons running out is the least likely - Even if Israel is running low, the US isn't and therefore it might be better to look at other possibilities. Trump isn't fond of war and he'd prefer negotiated settlements and making deals so I think that might play into it.

(The US wants other nations to engage, simply to spread out the costs among those who benefit from shipping cheap oil, not necessarily that weapons are running low.)

Maybe Iran isn't talking with the US??? I discount this completely. Iran's favourite tactic is to engage their enemy in conversation and delay them while re arming.

Have we bitten off more than we can chew? As a non US citizen I can't answer for Americans, but I doubt it. This war has been going on in one form or other since Jimmy Carter's presidency. "We" didn't bite off anything. We have no choice if "we" want a world that isn't tossed into the Iranian 12ver view of end times. Nuclear fires bringing on the Mahdi. "WE" are simply facing the end result of the kick the can down the road philosophy of the Dems from Carter to Clinton, Obama and Biden!!!

Game theory takes a back seat to Bible Prophecy in my view, therefore I look at things from the pov of asking which prophecy might be on the horizon, and is it happening or stage setting preparatory to that prophecy, setting up the board for that prophecy to take place?

 

[Tall Timbers]

And for that reason Trump gave a 5 day stay.

The 5 day stay is only for the power stations that Trump promised to destroy if the Strait wasn't opened within 48 hours. In the bigger picture the only way I could see destroying Iran's ability to create electricity as a good thing is if there isn't regime change.

Meanwhile the destruction of thousands of military targets continues without any change.

 

[Andy C]

The 5 day stay is only for the power stations that Trump promised to destroy if the Strait wasn't opened within 48 hours. In the bigger picture the only way I could see destroying Iran's ability to create electricity as a good thing is if there isn't regime change.

Meanwhile the destruction of thousands of military targets continues without any change.

Agree, but then again, regime change was not a stated goal for military action.

 

[TCC]

@Andy C Good point. Its a hard sell for this to not seem par for the course of American standard operating system of regime changes in the past. I agree. I would not see that as what is meant here. I guess more like a regime seizure like in Venezuela. I know the world will have a hard time accepting that a countries sole existence is to take out Israel and America. I feel for them. But its probably a good attitude to adjust. At a certain point, terror threats as a national anthem must not be rewarded. North Korea seemed to befriend Trump for a season. It's good the world can see something like that can coexist, instead. Blessings.

 

[TCC]

Thanks for the reply Margery and all who comment. Really appreciate the open and sincere hearts. And Pastor Adrian, the edit looks great. Thanks for keeping the core authorial intentions in the light.

Game theory takes a back seat to Bible Prophecy in my view, therefore I look at things from the pov of asking which prophecy might be on the horizon, and is it happening or stage setting preparatory to that prophecy, setting up the board for that prophecy to take place?

So when my friend shared some videos of a game theorist that predicted the Iran war, I immediately dismissed it. I would look at prophecy as a far higher threshold than something even the MSN is trying to get us to believe. I think I added this bit about this game theorist on almost as like an after dinner mint. Where the main course concern for me would be more in the arena of perhaps why we might not have been seeing Israel missiles block as much or try to as it seemed to have before. Even if that were to be true, I would not see a world where Iran shames America into the ground and we all just move on. But I guess my concern if some of my bullet points were true is more related to what kinds of information should we be considering. In the way i typically process I likely allow far more into what i might consider than the average person and possibly to unhealthy levels. But where it is healthy is i find myself able to have a much longer leash perhaps that the average POV, because by being this way in processes over years of having been doing it, the ground zero terrain taking stronger root can afford seemingly insane levels of conjecture because it knows the hurdles that have been more clearly defined along the way--have become significantly increased (as well as the strengths and depths, and magnitude of those hurdles having formed out of taking many ideological "chances" along the way). So in that sense, I predict i will likely no longer be human by Thursday...lol. And have a hard time discussing things as an earthling moving forward...lol. Or at least it can feel that way at times for me.

So Margery i 100% agree with you that a game theory holds no candle to prophecy. And particularly in this case. For the man, Prof. Jung, has stated objectives himself on Tucker that he wants America to yield sovereignty to China over global climate change. So I can understand, that even while i am willing to consider "extreme" levels of controversial views way outside my Overton Window, the waves of controversy will likely evaporate as they are exposed to genuine real wilderness world raw elements (like the harsh heat of reality beating down upon its head 16 hours a day...all day long). I suppose if anything helpful from all of this, the one thing that popped out from my grip (like a slimy real-time caught fish slipping from hand's grip) about Iran, actually revealed that the minor after dinner mint point of said game theorist is that it is coming from self fulfilling hopeful China who desires America to sovereignly be owned by her. And Tucker absolutely fine with siding with his wisdom.

What I learned today:
A) Tucker is globalist
B) Jung is a Chinese Propogandist

Even as extreme as those two points sound, to me, it does not mean that nothing that comes from these men's observation can't be helpful to consider (either in what they say or in what they don't). In Jung's case its easier to see where the cliff edges are. In Tucker's presenting values, a little harder to see the cliff edges. But those two having been put together = Reese's Peanut Butter Cup: "You got your chocolate in my peanut butter." And, "You got your peanut butter in my chocklate." Together they make a dandy candy...and have helped the world to "see" them as one. I would have been willing to consider Tucker quite a bit further down the road because on some points he can tend to unearth "some" things. But I must admit that over the months it has collectively come to be realized that Tucker is likely the quintessential Pied Piper dressed to kill. His attire decked to the nines. Ready for a really hot night out on the town. A night, unfortunately, America kind of wants.

So the fruit that fell from the shaken trees around me may not have produced units of conviction of certainty regarding Isreal's and Trump's true posture in recent rhetoric and handling of the Iran theater. To me, that will shake out some things in time. What I am looking for there exactly is as much an uncertainty as it was concerning Jung. For me, I know (as you well have this conviction too Margery), that game theory is only so able to do this or that. And not even in the same room with prophecy...amen. So because of that, having no fear of being tricked allowed me to suspend convictions to consider what else we may not know we don't know THAT could be helpful in generic overall scene portrait framing. And while doing that, it would appear that what just stepped into the radar zone for me is: WW3 via Iran is a globalist construct, and Tucker is in league with Chinese Nationalist Propogandists. In contrast to concerns over Isreal gaming Trump as some suspect, I'd take biblical prophesy horizon potential over Chinese propaganda any day. Amen.

Seriously though folks: WW3 A Chinese Sold Tool Making Tools of Her Obedient Subjects. If that statement is accurate, please consider that a significant portion of watcher movements are matrixed into the Globalist Hive Mind, richly. Just saying.