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Trump Plans to Accept Plane from Qatar

Andiamo

Andiamo

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May 11 (Reuters) - U.S. President Donald Trump'sadministration intends to accept a Boeing (BA.N), opens new tab 747-8 airplane as a gift from the Qatari royal family that would be outfitted to serve as Air Force One, according to a source briefed on the matter.
The luxury plane, which would be one of the most valuable gifts ever received by the U.S. government, would eventually be donated to Trump's presidential library after he leaves office, the source said. A new commercial 747-8 costs approximately $400 million.


Yeah. Does not sit right with me at all.

(Mod please correct my spelling of Qatar in title- thanks)
 
Andy C said:
Trumps comments about accepting the plane:

www.foxnews.com

Trump rips ABC reporter for asking about accepting jet from Qatar, says she should be 'embarrassed'

President Donald Trump rejected an ABC reporter's question about receiving a jet from Qatar on Monday, saying it would be "stupid" not to accept it.
www.foxnews.com www.foxnews.com
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In this article he is quoted saying it’s not a gift to him but to the Dept of Defense. Which implies that it’s to all of us.
Well, I don’t want this gift.
 
Its things like this that make me understand deeper (like transgenderism, AI fake people and accounts, mRNA vaccines etc) that have me completely understand and agree with the sentiment of just wanting to go home already. Amen. If this is not to troll someone, I object. If i is to troll, i guess it is ok. But looks bad. And Trump not caring how it looks, does feel cheap. He doesn't get the America covid vax concern. And issues fast track to vaccinates chickens with mRNA advances (when it is against healthy regulations to do so--who wants vaccinated chicken). And pretends to rescue Los Angeles with water from the North that never got there. And sizzles as some Greek Water god. And now this. lol. It absurd. Qatar bought the 666 building in NY for Jarid, his son-in-law. Bad vibes on that one buddy.

So if Trump does end up being the first seal, lol, it would make sense he would come with excessive baggage. But its stuff like this that makes me not care so much about whether or not he can improve America. Or boost Israel. He's just a cheeseburger at this point. And not a very good one. Yikes. Thanks Andiamo. I was going to post this with the bad sentiment it deserves. Thanks for the post. Blessings.

PS -- In the early days of Oct 7th recovery, it was believed that Qatar (some rumors) might be a part of a joint effort to oversee Gaza. Like a way to have joint Middle East representation there ousting the Iran effect. So not sure where all that might go with Saudi Arabia in the mix on tour right now, but in Trumps mind i'm thinking that if he is seen as accepting plane from Qatar, he can't be seen as being too pro-Israel. Maybe that is his thinking. Yuk, if so. But just saying.
 
Tall Timbers said:
Doesn't sit right with me either. Sell the plane and divvy up the proceeds among those who were/are hostages of hamas and their families since Qatar is supposedly a large funder of hamas.
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Im also not a fan of this. However, I have no idea what goes on behind the scene, or what possible diplomatic fallout it would cause to not accept the gift. Diplomacy takes many turns, which often can involve playing nice with those we don’t want to, deals with countries we dont like, in order to get deals we do like. Im glad I’m just an average Joe reading about items such as the OP, and not the one who has to curry favors, or launch missles at an enemy who was a friend.

Trump is the ultimate chess player, and we are not privy to all the information. For now, I will trust Trump will make the final call keeping our county’s best interest at heart.
 
At one time, servicemembers and DoD employees were not allowed to accept or retain any gift worth in excess of $25
In the event that refusal would be rude and/or create an international/diplomatic incident, the recipient was to turn in the gift, along with a form.

I don't know if the rules have changed, or if they're different for elected officials and/or Senior Executive Service (SES) employees.

I also don't like that Air Force One carries the President, has communications and intelligence capabilities that could be used to spy on documents, activities, conversations, communications, and locations involving the President and Air Force One. The US embassy in Cuba, which was furnished by Cuba, and in which employees were subjected to harmful electromagnetic radiation, etc., and the Israeli provision of exploding pagers to terrorists, come to mind.
 
Keeping in mind that Qatar funnels money from Iran to Hamas in Gaza, and is one of Iran's puppets, and keeping in mind that Qatar funded the terrorists of Oct 7 who attacked Israel, AND decided to help out negotiating a hostage return in a war they helped start, this gift is another serious compromise.

Qatar is also a puppet of Iran, and is helping out with talks between America and Iran.

Given all those circumstances this is a HOPELESS COMPROMISE

If it had been any other president, this would never have been allowed.

Laura Loomer one of Trump's biggest supporters came out and said it's a bribe and it shouldn't be allowed.

Whether Trump gives any favour in return or not, it doesn't matter. It's the way it looks to the Arab world, and to the Muslim world and to the world in general.

I recall how we all criticized Joe Biden for the way his son accepted money for favours and access to his father as VP and then later as President.

That was far less blatant than this jet.

So much for the look of it as a bribe.

Then we get into the possibilities to compromise intelligence or put the President at risk. Even if they take this plane apart and rebuild it, chances are they will miss an Iranian plant of some sort or other.

As for how long the security rebuild will take, it's probably faster (and much much safer) to let Boeing try to finish the one in production, rather than pull secure staff off that job and put them onto tearing this apart and rebuilding the special features and checking for bugs, bombs, remote control devices etc.

AirForce1- the one being built by Boeing is delayed (Boeing has a lot of issues- some of which are labour costs from before the tariffs). Several news sources including I think Fox news was reporting that people who work on the Presidential plane must pass security checks etc.

As it should be.

This plane has had no such security history.
 
You bring up a good point @Margery. Why would the DOD accept a plane built by a foreign nation be something Trump flies around in intimately. Bugs? Tracking? Other tech? Wow. It is rumored that Trump moved the embassy from Telaviv to Jerusalem in part due to suspected spy utility built within its framework. Not sure about that. But to me it looks like a special kind of stupid to be riding around in a potential flying coffin. Wow. Decisions like this are not proportionate with a good chess player. Its insane...lol. Its like as if Trump has been drinking. :(
 
Margery said:
Keeping in mind that Qatar funnels money from Iran to Hamas in Gaza, and is one of Iran's puppets, and keeping in mind that Qatar funded the terrorists of Oct 7 who attacked Israel, AND decided to help out negotiating a hostage return in a war they helped start, this gift is another serious compromise.

Qatar is also a puppet of Iran, and is helping out with talks between America and Iran.

Given all those circumstances this is a HOPELESS COMPROMISE

If it had been any other president, this would never have been allowed.

Laura Loomer one of Trump's biggest supporters came out and said it's a bribe and it shouldn't be allowed.

Whether Trump gives any favour in return or not, it doesn't matter. It's the way it looks to the Arab world, and to the Muslim world and to the world in general.

I recall how we all criticized Joe Biden for the way his son accepted money for favours and access to his father as VP and then later as President.

That was far less blatant than this jet.

So much for the look of it as a bribe.

Then we get into the possibilities to compromise intelligence or put the President at risk. Even if they take this plane apart and rebuild it, chances are they will miss an Iranian plant of some sort or other.

As for how long the security rebuild will take, it's probably faster (and much much safer) to let Boeing try to finish the one in production, rather than pull secure staff off that job and put them onto tearing this apart and rebuilding the special features and checking for bugs, bombs, remote control devices etc.

AirForce1- the one being built by Boeing is delayed (Boeing has a lot of issues- some of which are labour costs from before the tariffs). Several news sources including I think Fox news was reporting that people who work on the Presidential plane must pass security checks etc.

As it should be.

This plane has had no such security history.
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Yep a modern day yet very poor version of a trojan horse
 
Margery said:
Keeping in mind that Qatar funnels money from Iran to Hamas in Gaza, and is one of Iran's puppets, and keeping in mind that Qatar funded the terrorists of Oct 7 who attacked Israel, AND decided to help out negotiating a hostage return in a war they helped start, this gift is another serious compromise.

Qatar is also a puppet of Iran, and is helping out with talks between America and Iran.

Given all those circumstances this is a HOPELESS COMPROMISE

If it had been any other president, this would never have been allowed.

Laura Loomer one of Trump's biggest supporters came out and said it's a bribe and it shouldn't be allowed.

Whether Trump gives any favour in return or not, it doesn't matter. It's the way it looks to the Arab world, and to the Muslim world and to the world in general.

I recall how we all criticized Joe Biden for the way his son accepted money for favours and access to his father as VP and then later as President.

That was far less blatant than this jet.

So much for the look of it as a bribe.

Then we get into the possibilities to compromise intelligence or put the President at risk. Even if they take this plane apart and rebuild it, chances are they will miss an Iranian plant of some sort or other.

As for how long the security rebuild will take, it's probably faster (and much much safer) to let Boeing try to finish the one in production, rather than pull secure staff off that job and put them onto tearing this apart and rebuilding the special features and checking for bugs, bombs, remote control devices etc.

AirForce1- the one being built by Boeing is delayed (Boeing has a lot of issues- some of which are labour costs from before the tariffs). Several news sources including I think Fox news was reporting that people who work on the Presidential plane must pass security checks etc.

As it should be.

This plane has had no such security history.
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We need to keep in mind the strategic military base that houses several thousand US troops in Qatar. This base is vital.
 
The President can accept a gift, large or small. Gifts are exchanged between country's leaders all the time. But I don't think the recipient can claim the gift as their own, I think it becomes the property of the US govmint... so I don't know about Trump being being able to park it at his Presidential library...
 
An Air Force One that is from Qatar is one of the most bizarre things. Planes are like a flying “ship” and ships historically have held symbolism and meaning for dignitaries and so what would this be saying symbolically. America is a sell out? And yes, you would think he would be concerned about the Trojan horse factor in this. So bizarre.
 
Andiamo said:
the Trojan horse factor
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The plane would get stripped down to the shell and then all the stuff would start going into it that would turn it into a Presidential aircraft. The planes I flew on during my Air Force career got fully stripped down and rebuilt on a regular basis, including get x-rayed to look for cracks and whatnot in the fuselage.

a trojan horse won't be an issue. The idea of needing a plane from another country because we're having trouble producing one is a bit humbling.
 
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