Trump and Netanyahu's 2-state vision: Gaza war's end, Abraham Accords expansion

[Spartan Sprinter]

It seems to me that Trump/Bibi May be willing to agree to the terms of the ceasefire, but are not signing on permanently to the two state part of it. That part is contingent on the success of the cease-fire. It’s on hold for now. I could see the two state solution being the part that the antichrist confirms............ what do you all think?

That's a possibility

 

[TCC]

It seems to me that Trump/Bibi May be willing to agree to the terms of the ceasefire, but are not signing on permanently to the two state part of it. That part is contingent on the success of the cease-fire. It’s on hold for now. I could see the two state solution being the part that the antichrist confirms............ what do you all think?

Something of this nature yes seems likely. I would think though, to me anyways, that it kind of seems to be a convergence of signs in perhaps a stand alone arena. Convergence in the sense that before we got close to this point, it never really dawned on me that peace and safety does seem to go exegetically with 1 Thes 5's testimony of "sudden distruction." With language including birth pangs of a pregnant woman (what is said to be Israel in the Rev 12 sign). So making those connections to me seems that a case could be made that peace and safety have exegetical meat on the bone if 1 Thes 5 implies (not so subtly) to contrast Ezekel 38 with peace and safety (similar language used to describe Israel at the time of Ez 38).

I know there are more commonly peace and safety connections with the Antichrist. And the Abraham Accords looks pretty good for something for the AC to strengthen. But I don't believe the same exegetical case of peace and safety could be made for the Antichrist. It is presumed his percieved protection would be peace and safety. And it is presumed he would have solutions no one else has been able to do before. But from my understanding, those are associations we consider to go with AC, but without clear exegetical weight.

Therefore, I believe what is germain to the age of grace side of the equation is Ezekiel 38 peace and safety. As well as the Abraham Accords belonging to the strengthening of Israel. Although Daniel gives specifics about the 7 year AC contract (and it is in the Old Testament), it would seem that events that occur as being part of the tribulation would be those events associated with those shining fourth in Revelation 4+. But experientially for the age of the grace, the age of grace Revelation (if you will) might likely be Ezekiel 38 (being the most prophecy given on any one subject in one place). Having such clear mapping, and seeing its ease with tracking and development, along with middle east trends mirror it, leans me more so into the camp that, yes, perhaps the Abraham Accords is what the AC strengthens in the tribulation. But since Ez 38 is not seemingly anchored in the age of grace (we have scholars with differing views on timing) as the AC is clearly anchored to the tribulation period, it is reasonable as to why it might not seem to have as much firm weight for us in eschatological theory and timing. But we do see reasonable potential for Israel to be strengthened by a Trump admin, America first agenda profiting and protecting Israel, along with the Abraham Accords and now attack on Iran. Anything can happen of course, lol, as the middle east is often quite a wild card. But things do seem to lend a lot of credibility for much more potentially of safe and strengthened Israel in the near term richly associated with the Abraham Accords.

Having said that, it is possible that the AC re-strengthens the Abraham Accords post Ezekiel 38. Which would seem like a perfect time too for the AC to make his pitch. In writing this the thought just occurred to me that in a world that just experienced Ez 38, and whatever impact the rapture has upon the world, having the two witnesses show up at that time might not be as striking in contrast as it would have had they arrived in the age of grace before Ez 38. In some ways I can almost see the two-witnesses showing up after such a calamity on Israel to perhaps even be thought of initially (to a generally unbelievig world) as perhaps what naturally goes with a miracle God just sent to rescue Israel and pay back her enemies. Like maybe the world would see the two witnesses as temporary probation officers. Until they likely realize these guys are not going away any time soon....lol. Just an odd thought I never had before. Blessings.

 

[Hol]

But things do seem to lend a lot of credibility for much more potentially of safe and strengthened Israel in the near term richly associated with the Abraham Accords.

That’s possible, a short term peace and safety for Israel.

 

[Ghoti Ichthus]

Hobbit and LOTR were big when I was growing up, but I didn't like them. I never finished reading even one book of it (unheard of for me). My next-younger sibling liked them, but IDK if the youngest did. I saw a part of one of the movies as an adult, was just as uninterested, and flipped the channel to something else.

 

[Ghoti Ichthus]

I ran across one of those cartoons and thought it looked really weird. Lots of cartoons were weird in the 60’s/70’s.

They started adding occult and other stuff into cartoons then, and also made some really stupid ones for little kids. I didn't like those kinds of cartoons. Roadrunner, WilE Coyote, Bugs Bunny, Underdog, Mighty Mouse, FogHorn LegHorn, Tom and Jerry, Tweety Bird, Dudley Do-Right, The Pink Panther, etc. were definitely more my speed Flintstones, yes, but not The Jetsons. And horse operas.

 

[3Nails4Given]

Its Hobbiton language, very rare you know

Just don’t make a Hobbit of it

 

[Margery]

This THREAD!!!

Is responsible for me dragging out my extended version DVD set of LOTR and last night I started to watch it again. I also put LOTR back on my kindle to read thru it again.

I even learnt how to use the DVD player, which I haven't touched since G died, because he made it work on the rare occasions we used it. Mostly for his favourite movies.

Several of the Gandalf lines are reminding me of the Judeo Christian world view that undergirded Tolkien's writing. I've gotten to Sarumon and he's reminding me of what happens when good men do nothing to stop the spread of evil. They quickly move from passive bystanders to enablers of evil.

 

[Hol]

Indifference, to me, is the epitome of evil.

Elie Wiesel

 

[Batman]

This THREAD!!!

Is responsible for me dragging out my extended version DVD set of LOTR and last night I started to watch it again. I also put LOTR back on my kindle to read thru it again.

I even learnt how to use the DVD player, which I haven't touched since G died, because he made it work on the rare occasions we used it. Mostly for his favourite movies.

Several of the Gandalf lines are reminding me of the Judeo Christian world view that undergirded Tolkien's writing. I've gotten to Sarumon and he's reminding me of what happens when good men do nothing to stop the spread of evil. They quickly move from passive bystanders to enablers of evil.

LOL.....we started watching the 3 LOTR extended footage DVDs on July 4. We are about to finish the Two Towers tonight.

 

[Spartan Sprinter]

LOL.....we started watching the 3 LOTR extended footage DVDs on July 4. We are about to finish the Two Towers tonight.

Love the gandalf exorcism

 

[Margery]

Love the gandalf exorcism

Says the guy that derailed the thread into LOTR territory!

 

[Spartan Sprinter]

Says the guy that derailed the thread into LOTR territory!

Guilty as charged LOL