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Trudeau's Emergency Powers Ruled ILLEGAL

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The Trucker Protest was "No Threat To National Security."​

By Benjamin J. Dichter at The Daily Bell

The Federal Court of Appeal has determined that the Liberal government improperly and illegally invoked the Emergencies Act (Canada’s equivalent to martial law) to disperse the convoy demonstrations in downtown Ottawa in February 2022.

This ruling, issued on Friday, rejected the federal government’s challenge to a 2024 lower court judgment that declared former Prime Minister Justin Trudeau’s invocation of the act unjustified and a violation of demonstrators’ rights under the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms.

The three-judge panel emphasized that, despite the inconvenience and disruption caused by the protests, these events did not rise to the level of a genuine threat to national security. The judges stated that cabinet lacked sufficient reasonable grounds to conclude such a threat existed, thereby failing to meet the strict statutory requirements for invoking the legislation.

“There was no evidence that the lives, health or safety of the people living in Ottawa were endangered (as annoying, stressful and concerning as the protests were),” the decision noted.



What now? What is the Remedy?​

The question now is what the legal remedy is for those of us who were targeted by the Canadian government? Those of us who had our bank accounts frozen, our businesses destroyed, our lives ruined? What is the legal remedy? What punishment should Trudeau and the members of his government be subjected to?

:bliss: This is the Canada that I love :cflag:
 
True, and many count on the statue of limitations to run out before litigation can be brought.
Not in Canada. We don't have the statute of limitations the way you do down south. Ours are complicated, change due to the nature of the crime and are subject to interpretation as a result. The deck is stacked in favour of the govt position.

Our laws for litigation are also very different and make it much harder to win a case like this one. Again the deck is stacked in favour of the govt.

This win is really in the order of a miraculous event given the laws here.
 
Not in Canada. We don't have the statute of limitations the way you do down south. Ours are complicated, change due to the nature of the crime and are subject to interpretation as a result. The deck is stacked in favour of the govt position.

Our laws for litigation are also very different and make it much harder to win a case like this one. Again the deck is stacked in favour of the govt.

This win is really in the order of a miraculous event given the laws here.

Does anything like this in Canada have any affect on Carney?
 
Does anything like this in Canada have any affect on Carney?
No not much. I was talking to my sister in law yesterday and Carney is still riding high in public opinion polls asking who makes the best leader for Canada.

There is a plague on the land, consisting of wilful blindness and stupidity. Has it's roots in the rejection of the gospel as a culture and the embracing of humanist ideas.

Reject Christ and be doomed to embrace the Lie!
 
No not much. I was talking to my sister in law yesterday and Carney is still riding high in public opinion polls asking who makes the best leader for Canada.

There is a plague on the land, consisting of wilful blindness and stupidity. Has it's roots in the rejection of the gospel as a culture and the embracing of humanist ideas.

Reject Christ and be doomed to embrace the Lie!

It seems like Canada has pockets of influence. I believe there was a time where it seemed during Pierre's run that Canada had a real momentum in moving in a conservative direction. But than seemingly over night something changed with that tide. You mentioned something about this prior. But looking back is it just different areas in Canada with differing views? Like in the USA with Red and Blue states? Or is it more like the nation gest swept along in either direction? Or how does that kind of work?
 
It seems like Canada has pockets of influence. I believe there was a time where it seemed during Pierre's run that Canada had a real momentum in moving in a conservative direction. But than seemingly over night something changed with that tide. You mentioned something about this prior. But looking back is it just different areas in Canada with differing views? Like in the USA with Red and Blue states? Or is it more like the nation gest swept along in either direction? Or how does that kind of work?
I think it helps to see right and left as political choices made by all kinds of people, many of whom are not believers, and those that are might not be biblically literate.

Christians inside a culture have varying degrees of Biblical literacy.

Plus cultures are VERY different.

Canadians are not Americans living north of the border, we are different. We both speak the same language, read the same books, watch the same movies, so when we are different in our views it is jarring. Things we take for granted up here- gun laws for one are the opposite in the States. Our legal system is very different, our view of how to care for the less fortunate. The welfare state is viewed positively up here for example. We trade off freedom for that safety net as we see it. Americans view that completely differently and often equate freedom and gun ownership as Christian values.

Christians will automatically pull towards the side that they feel lines up with their beliefs. But many Christians are overly influenced by culture and media and may not think about how each side lines up with the Bible, because they don't know their Bible that well.

Canadian Christians are not the same as the American Bible belt believers. Cultural norms play a huge role, and it depends on the degree of Bible literacy they have to see how that affects political choice.

A lot of Canadian Christians tend towards socialism. That wouldn't occur to an American Christian in the Bible belt for example, but it does up here. That might seem weird to an American but lets look at Russia for another example.

A Russian Christian is still a Russian. Brought up to believe in the virtues of socialism. It's a rarity that a Russian like Solzhenitsyn appears, and questions the norms.

Christians aren't closet Americans in a foreign culture, they are part of their nation.

I think in the Bible belt of the US, the cultural norms trend towards conservative thought and Biblical norms regardless of the person's salvation.

Not all conservatives are Christians. Some are.

In that Baptist church I used to go to, I'd say only about 1/4 would vote conservative. Another 1/4 would vote socialist and about half would vote with the centrist Liberals. Most of them take a very dim view of Trump and American conservatives (Republicans). They don't understand how people could vote for Trump. I'm unusual in that I do understand that.

There aren't a lot of us left in Canada who have a good amount of biblical literacy who would vote conservative or who challenge the way they've been brought up within the culture.

And of those who vote conservative in Canada, the majority are expressing a desire to see Canada return to it's Canadian roots and heritage. And I think the majority really are secular. Influenced by a Biblical heritage yes, but not voting conservative because they are Christians.

It's difficult to explain.

I am NOT the typical Canadian by the farthest stretch of the imagination. I think very differently than my father's family or my Christian mother's side. Most of my family think I'm nuts for my beliefs which tend to align somewhat more to the Libertarian and Conservative views. My surviving missionary aunt votes for the Liberals for example as did the rest of them.

Except for my uncle that went to the States. He thought like an American. He joined the John Birch society at one point. He was very right wing. The rest of the Christian side thought he was nuts on all those counts but the general view was --at least he was saved. Even if he didn't remain sensibly Canadian.

He was worried when I got engaged to a Russian. Till he met the Russian family I was marrying into and realized what Tsarists are like. He thought all Russians were the same- communist or socialists. Royalists were outside his vision completely.

My father's side of the family are all socialists, and with 3 exceptions besides me are not Christians.

I was raised to be a socialist - my Christian mother tended that way too, and my father was steeped in it. It wasn't till I grew up and watched Ronald Reagan come to power and saw Reagan's vision of economics working in spite of everyone up here thinking it was a disaster that I began to question that view.
 
Canadians are not Americans living north of the border, we are different.

I was stranded in western Canada a couple of times, enough time to learn that I really was in a foreign country populated with people who were culturally different from US citizens.

Both times I was stranded in Watson Lake. Both times were an eye opener. I learned a lot. I've also spent a lot of time in Whitehorse and Ft Nelson. Whitehorse was like a US town when I was a kid... relatively safe. I really like Ft Nelson for some reason even though there isn't much there. I've run all over that town and still have all their trails in my memory.

Where I found Canadians who thought more like Americans was way out in the boonies away from any town or city.

4 or 5 hours traveling south and east of Ft Nelson one finally returns to civilization and you no longer need to worry about running out of gas before you get to the next gas station.

On all my trips back and forth through Canada, I always celebrated when I was back on US soil.
 
I was stranded in western Canada a couple of times, enough time to learn that I really was in a foreign country populated with people who were culturally different from US citizens.

Both times I was stranded in Watson Lake. Both times were an eye opener. I learned a lot. I've also spent a lot of time in Whitehorse and Ft Nelson. Whitehorse was like a US town when I was a kid... relatively safe. I really like Ft Nelson for some reason even though there isn't much there. I've run all over that town and still have all their trails in my memory.

Where I found Canadians who thought more like Americans was way out in the boonies away from any town or city.

4 or 5 hours traveling south and east of Ft Nelson one finally returns to civilization and you no longer need to worry about running out of gas before you get to the next gas station.

On all my trips back and forth through Canada, I always celebrated when I was back on US soil.
Watson Lake is probably one of the worst places you could be stranded in.

Rough, dangerous and very violent place, my nephew that accepted the Lord a year ago - his wife grew up there. I know stuff from her, Joseph, from my brother in law and my Yukon relations.

Thankfully Amy accepted the Lord at Bible camp as a child. When Joseph came to the Lord last January, she told him finally, and they both committed their lives to the Lord and got baptized as soon as the ice was off the lake in Fort St James.

Whitehorse is a hard drinking town with a fair degree of violence, much like Prince George as is Fort Nelson but nothing on Watson Lake.


One of my theories as to why Canadian Christians are more likely to be socialist politically is the Mennonite influence. Think Amish communities- communal living and ownership. Only all across Canada. And many escapees from the old order Mennonites became solid members in evangelical churches.

Oh and your American news (and ours) will likely be full of speculation about another Canadian election (because Carney only holds a minority govt therefore without a coalition it's likely to fall just the same as Israeli politics). The polls indicate he will win again, probably gaining a majority even though the support within the diehard Conservative party members is behind Poilievre.

I'm pretty sure that the wishful thinking will make headlines as Canadian right wing news sources try to spin things, and I'm also sure that American right wing news will do the same.

I highly doubt it will turn the tide away from Carney.
 
Watson Lake is probably one of the worst places you could be stranded in.

Rough, dangerous and very violent place, my nephew that accepted the Lord a year ago - his wife grew up there. I know stuff from her, Joseph, from my brother in law and my Yukon relations.

My impression of the place wasn't favorable. I had my 4 young at the time children with me and one really nice thing that happened was a lady gifted up her collection of Archie comic books so we'd have something to do while stranded. That was a really nice gift from a stranger who learned of our plight.

It seemed to be a rather lawless place and aside from the Archie comics incident, I've got nothing good to say about my experiences in that town.
 
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