The beast system in its infancy.

[bigMoose]

None of these sources tell us how to turn that capability off...

I found this on the mesh:
"How do I turn Amazon Sidewalk off?
Customers can turn Sidewalk on or off at any time from Control Center in the Ring app or Account Settings in the Alexa app. This setting will apply to all applicable Echo and Ring devices linked to the customer’s account."

 

[TCC]

I found this on the mesh:
"How do I turn Amazon Sidewalk off?
Customers can turn Sidewalk on or off at any time from Control Center in the Ring app or Account Settings in the Alexa app. This setting will apply to all applicable Echo and Ring devices linked to the customer’s account."

Under the Frenquently Asked Questions they should add, "Is this the forming of the beast system?"

 

[Shinobi]

None of these sources tell us how to turn that capability off...

The sad side is that even if you tell it to turn off, it can still be used as a pass through node. In short as long as you leave it connected to the internet it can still spy on you and pass information from your devices. If you go through the terms and conditions you are likely to find something about third parties having access. Well Amazon will claim to stop spying on you but they can't speak for the third parties that know how to access your devices. That is how the get around you trying to maintain privacy. Since I don't have Ring or Alexa or Siri I can't check to see what traffic is going through my router out to the internet on those devices. I can check on my cell phone to see if it is sending data when I am not using it and track down where it is going but that takes some work to get such info. I do it periodically and have found my phone talking to some server. Fortunately for me it is one I allow such as earthquake tracking and weather. I have yet to find some hidden app sending data out. So all they get on me comes from the few websites I might visit while on my phone. Usually that is my search engine and then any site I click on to look at.

The point here is no matter what you tell these devices to stop doing, they have work arounds like updates they download and install which often come with new terms and conditions you are not even told about. As such accepting and loading the update you are again giving permission without even knowing it.

So we are left with two choices accept it an move on or get rid of those devices that can connect to the internet. As long as they can connect Amazon Sidewalk can use them for pass through's to get back to their servers.

Some one mentioned asking if it was a part of the beast system. That is an answer you are not likely to get even a lie saying no. But, rest assured it is part of the build up of the beast system which will have full surveillance abilities on everyone. What ever the mark turns out to be it will have limited transmission distance on its own. But as soon as it comes in contact with any connected device it will pass your data through and back to the beast system. Even now with my phone being very limited and not having a human capable working GPS that I can use for navigation purposes, it does record any GPS pings that happen when I am around any other open wireless device especially Wifi routers in people's homes and businesses.

As I have said in the past the best you can do is find a place back in the hills where people never go and live there with no connection to any kind of device, no cell phone, no computer, laptop, etc. You could not even attempt to access utilities from near by towns as that would keep you visible, harder to see but still visible. You would have to run on a generator that you paid cash for the fuel to run it. You would have to get water from a stream or lake or dig a well. If you shop it will have to be in cash only and even your vehicle would need to be hidden behind some kind of legal entity like an LLC or Trust that has as its address some PO box and that at a private entity mailbox service and use someone else's physical address. Any connection to any kind of present world systems, health insurance, banking, vehicle registration, any license you may have whatever it may be will keep you connected one way or another. As the old saying goes you can run but you can't hide. And the beast system with the aid of now AI can cross reference every data base around with such speed they can locate you in mere minutes as opposed to days

The upside is the beast system is reserved for the time of the Tribulation. If you are not here for that then it won't be a problem.

 

[Tall Timbers]

The point here is no matter what you tell these devices to stop doing, they have work arounds like updates they download and install which often come with new terms and conditions you are not even told about. As such accepting and loading the update you are again giving permission without even knowing it.

I've never activated Alexa or any of those similar things on any of my devices but figure they're collecting my every word, hiccup, and nose blow anyway. It doesn't bother me overmuch.

 

[Shinobi]

I've never activated Alexa or any of those similar things on any of my devices but figure they're collecting my every word, hiccup, and nose blow anyway. It doesn't bother me overmuch.

Truth is there is nothing we can do to stop it as long as they are in proximity they are collecting and sending it all on. We can demand they turn it off and they can make it look like they did to appease us but doesn't meant they actually did. We live in a time where honesty in business is so rare, an ounce of it would cost you at least a 1000 lbs of gold.

 

[dwb]

I choose not to participate in most of the tech stuff. Just a phone and desktop, nothing else. I know it's hard, but using cash will help stop the tracking. I have become an Amazon buyer which is easy for me to be tracked; buy from home, delivery in 1-3 days at Walmart prices. Hard to beat.

I can also see why many large stores such as Target are losing sales.

 

[Shinobi]

I choose not to participate in most of the tech stuff. Just a phone and desktop, nothing else. I know it's hard, but using cash will help stop the tracking. I have become an Amazon buyer which is easy for me to be tracked; buy from home, delivery in 1-3 days at Walmart prices. Hard to beat.

I can also see why many large stores such as Target are losing sales.

Even with you self set limitations you are tracked, your health insurance, your bank, your job, you cell phone, everytime you go on line. So you go to the store and pay cash, if you are driving a newer car it has GPS, if not you phone still knows you were there. The point is hiding is no longer an option if we want to live even the slightest bit close to modern civilization. But then what do we care, the beast system doesn't go full bore till the Tribulation time frame. I don't plan to be here for that time.

 

[Shinobi]

I don't know if people have seen the video over on YT about a group called Blade Runner or not but that group is going around and cutting down or in some manner destroying street cameras. Now the are not your normal police cameras at intersections to catch you failing to stop these are from a company called Flock. They have married AI to OCR(optical character recognition) like police ALPRs(automatic license plate readers), along with GPS location and time stamps. Now Flock's main business is not the cameras but the data they collect which is being sold not just companies but to police agencies. This is part of the lead into the beast system where if you are still here you will be tracked constantly. Now add that to the data Google, your phone, info from Amazon Sidewalk mesh network all is provided to local police departments or can be gotten with a simple request or at most with a subpoena. If you are not paying attention this is an end around to the 4th Amendment. So start looking around your town. If you see cameras on shorter poles say in the middle of a block for a few blocks especially in high traffic areas where police cameras don't exist these are likely Flock cameras. So if you want to see more about it there are many videos on YT about them. Just put the following into the YT search engine (flock camera surveillance) and then scroll down to see all the videos about them, how they work, how police are using them, in some cases where court cases have suspended the sell of that data to police for 4th amendment violations, etc.

Now consider that every transaction you use some kind of card, ATM store which also have cameras often times sophisticated ones with facial recognition AI in them, these new Flock cameras, as well as standard police cameras along with those camera set ups you see sitting on small trailers in grocery store and mall parking lots which can read plates, do facial recognition and literally track your movements while you are in the view of the camera and you will start to get and understanding of how pervasive tracking of humans will come in the Tribulation and especially under the beast buy and sell system.

My point of this is simply to show how close we are to the time of the Tribulation. The things in the form of technology that can track you, force you into digital currency, is already here. Some of it is still in infancy but with the massive growth of AI systems everywhere, the technology is advancing at a very rapid pace. It appears that not a whole lot is left to do to flip the switch and have one massive world wide Big Brother type society.

Here is just one video link on the flock cameras to get you started: - YouTube

 

[1LoverofGod]

I don't know if people have seen the video over on YT about a group called Blade Runner or not but that group is going around and cutting down or in some manner destroying street cameras. Now the are not your normal police cameras at intersections to catch you failing to stop these are from a company called Flock. They have married AI to OCR(optical character recognition) like police ALPRs(automatic license plate readers), along with GPS location and time stamps. Now Flock's main business is not the cameras but the data they collect which is being sold not just companies but to police agencies. This is part of the lead into the beast system where if you are still here you will be tracked constantly. Now add that to the data Google, your phone, info from Amazon Sidewalk mesh network all is provided to local police departments or can be gotten with a simple request or at most with a subpoena. If you are not paying attention this is an end around to the 4th Amendment. So start looking around your town. If you see cameras on shorter poles say in the middle of a block for a few blocks especially in high traffic areas where police cameras don't exist these are likely Flock cameras. So if you want to see more about it there are many videos on YT about them. Just put the following into the YT search engine (flock camera surveillance) and then scroll down to see all the videos about them, how they work, how police are using them, in some cases where court cases have suspended the sell of that data to police for 4th amendment violations, etc.

Now consider that every transaction you use some kind of card, ATM store which also have cameras often times sophisticated ones with facial recognition AI in them, these new Flock cameras, as well as standard police cameras along with those camera set ups you see sitting on small trailers in grocery store and mall parking lots which can read plates, do facial recognition and literally track your movements while you are in the view of the camera and you will start to get and understanding of how pervasive tracking of humans will come in the Tribulation and especially under the beast buy and sell system.

My point of this is simply to show how close we are to the time of the Tribulation. The things in the form of technology that can track you, force you into digital currency, is already here. Some of it is still in infancy but with the massive growth of AI systems everywhere, the technology is advancing at a very rapid pace. It appears that not a whole lot is left to do to flip the switch and have one massive world wide Big Brother type society.

Here is just one video link on the flock cameras to get you started: - YouTube

Related article on "flock safety".....

By Patrick Wood

Feel Safe Now? License Plate Readers Are Tracking You Everywhere You Drive​

"Please Share This Story!"


This is so egregious that I don’t know where to begin. A startup company founded in 2018, Flock Safety, funded by Andreessen Horowitz (Marc Andreessen) and Founders Fund (Peter Thiel), among others, has invented a scalable device that can be mounted anywhere, which sucks data from every passing vehicle. It is self-powered with a solar panel and communicates via WiFi. It can be mounted on any type of pole, and they also sell the poles. These cameras can capture every license plate passing by on a busy four-lane freeway, but it doesn’t stop there: it records the make and color of your vehicle, any identifying features like window stickers or vehicle damage. Thus, it “fingerprints” your car.

Police systems integrate the “flock” into a situation room at HQ, and then they can track the movement of any vehicle in real time – even across jurisdictions, states, and even nationwide.

How dare these arch-technocrats like Andreessen and Thiel try to capture the whole country in motion? Are you not a criminal? Well, your Fourth Amendment rights are being ground to dust:

The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.

Feel Safe Now? License Plate Readers Are Tracking You Everywhere You Drive

This is so egregious that I don't know where to begin. A startup company founded in 2018, Flock Safety, funded by Andreessen Horowitz (Marc Andreessen) and Founders Fund (Peter Thiel), among others, has invented a scalable device that can be mounted anywhere, which sucks data from every passing...

www.technocracy.news

 

[Andy C]

We all have been tracked for quite some time. None of this bothers me, nor ever enters my mind when out and about. Im 68, boring, and too focused on the hopefully soon rapture, to give a darn about being spied on.

 

[Tall Timbers]

The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.

Thank the unconstitutional Patriot Act law for all the govmint spying on citizens in the USA.

 

[dwb]

We all have been tracked for quite some time. None of this bothers me, nor ever enters my mind when out and about. Im 68, boring, and too focused on the hopefully soon rapture, to give a darn about being spied on.

Same here, I don't like the idea, but there's not much I do interesting to anyone these days. Leaving your phone at home helps. These paid protestors are being told to not bring phone to protests because they track where they are from to judge local turnout.

I think we will be gone before they really bad thing start to happen. These kids are all into socialism and free stuff. It's just a matter of time before it is voted in, then it will be too late. If the left ever gain control of all 3 branches it will be over quick. The republicans need to force the filibuster into law before they lose power. If the left gains power and kills the filibuster there will never be another republican elected.

 

[lismore]

Now consider that every transaction you use some kind of card, ATM store which also have cameras often times sophisticated ones with facial recognition AI in them, these new Flock cameras, as well as standard police cameras along with those camera set ups you see sitting on small trailers in grocery store and mall parking lots which can read plates, do facial recognition and literally track your movements while you are in the view of the camera and you will start to get and understanding of how pervasive tracking of humans will come in the Tribulation and especially under the beast buy and sell system.

Hello Shinobi! 'Cash is King' as the old saying goes, a way to fight back against the beast system. Interestingly cash transactions can be better for the business, or a church if it is receiving donations. Some cashless features take a percentage, for example some contactless units in churches which take a 15% charge. Only 85% of the donation actually reaches the church account. Perhaps also one of the reasons for high inflation in the shops. God Bless All

 

[Andy C]

The time from now to the Beast system is a very short distance.

I assume by “beast System” you are referring to Rev 13 about the MOB. Could a beast system be used prior, who knows. There are many systems out there, some mentioned on this thread that could be used to track all the left behind. However, the MOB in Rev 13 does not mention tracking, only you have to have the MOB to buy or sell.

In the first half of the 7 year tribulation, half the left behind population will be killed, and an untold amount of damage caused by great earthquakes, and a likely global nuke exchange would be catastrophic. Would a global electronic tracking system survive? Would the world have so many areas hit with EMPs that would render most electronics useless?

I view its possible that the MOB is simply that, mark on the hand or forehead that must be visible at all times, especially when attempting to buy or sell.

 

[LydiaJoy]

Police Arrest Man With Almost Zero Resemblance to Actual Perpetrator Because AI Told Them To

A father was wrongly arrested after the NYPD's facial recognition software identified him based on grainy CCTV video.

futurism.com

Police Arrest Man With Almost Zero Resemblance to Actual Perpetrator Because AI Told Them To​

Between 2007 and 2020, the department has spent over $2.8 billion amassing a virtual toy chest of surveillance tech, including stingray phone trackers, crime prediction software, and even X-ray vans.

Among the NYPD’s most contentious technologies is a facial recognition suite it's been building since 2011 — a system that recently led to the arrest of a man who was a whole head taller than the original suspect.

As the New York Times reports, a father named Trevis Williams was wrongly arrested on April 21 after the NYPD's facial recognition software lumped him in with a group of "possible matches" based on grainy CCTV video.

Full article, link above....

This is scary, I feel bad for this guy.

 

[Shinobi]

Hello Shinobi! 'Cash is King' as the old saying goes, a way to fight back against the beast system. Interestingly cash transactions can be better for the business, or a church if it is receiving donations. Some cashless features take a percentage, for example some contactless units in churches which take a 15% charge. Only 85% of the donation actually reaches the church account. Perhaps also one of the reasons for high inflation in the shops. God Bless All

Sadly cash is slowly being eroded. In part our fiat currency we call the green backs is petty much worthless. It is only propped up because people still believe a dollar is worth a dollar. Well compared to say 100 years ago it is now worth on 5.4 cents. Modern technology specifically what is now called crypto currency is slowly moving in. And while it is not widely in use cash is now being set aside to plastic cards, credit and debit. There are some business that will refuse cash. They simply will not deal with it at all from their customers. So in the MOB scenario it is reasonable in dealing with a global economy there will be a global currency and that consisting of nothing more than value changes on some digital accounting system.

 

[Shinobi]

In the first half of the 7 year tribulation, half the left behind population will be killed, and an untold amount of damage caused by great earthquakes, and a likely global nuke exchange would be catastrophic. Would a global electronic tracking system survive? Would the world have so many areas hit with EMPs that would render most electronics useless?

Yes it is true there will be massive amounts of natural destruction but as to a global nuclear war it is not so clear. If you think about it, why has technology advnaced to where it is today if there is not a future need for it. Of the two options you mentioned natural disasters and nuclear attacks one can be fully controlled and the other only mitigated. The controlled one is all out global nuclear war. Since we know that Jesus will come back to stop the final war among thousands upon thousands that many will survive till that time at least we know of 200 million with the kings of the east. Likely as much with the other armies descending on Israel from other parts of the world. That points to while there will be lots of death and destruction before the final move on Israel many will survive. That does not point to a full out global nuclear holocaust affecting the entirety of the planet.

As for what can be mitigated, storms, earthquakes, volcanoes, even massive meteor storms and flaming mountains coming in from space would seem to indicate TPTB are expecting such and planning in advance for it. Hence the stories of underground bunkers backed up by the scripture of men climbing into caves seeking safety from the power of the lamb that was slain and the resurrected. Logically thinking this through massive amounts have been spent over the last half century and more to develop what is now appearing to be a global network that is being shown to tack every man, woman and child born into any kind of modern society as well as manage multiple financial accounts world wide that are slowly merging via corporate conglomerates working together with government into a single economic accounting system. The ultimate goal of world wide population control is to force worship of the beast. If everything is destroyed to a great extent then the ability for those refusing the mark to live and possible thrive would not be possible save divine intervention. So no I don't see a total loss of the power grid the internet from all the damages that are said to take place in the tribulation and as such a tracking system with I would guess we are at a good 85% or better now will still be around in the Tribulation period right up to the end.

Final note don't forget there will be an image of the beast at some point that people will have to bow down and worship. The technology for that is here to a great degree. Such technology will require a world wide power grid, sufficient power to make it happen and the technology to create and run it. I could be wrong but Satan as a created being can't actually work miracles but can mimic them in ways that they appear to humans that don't have the discernment that Jesus warns us to hold onto in the latter days. Well that pretty much leaves the deception that modern technology provides to the uneducated and less than discerning folks.

 

[dwb]

Feel Safe Now? License Plate Readers Are Tracking You Everywhere You Drive

There's a lot of bad folks being arrested due to these cams. Stolen cars, kidnappers, people with warrants. So some good is coming from it. But no, I do not like the tracking.

 

[1LoverofGod]

Final note don't forget there will be an image of the beast at some point that people will have to bow down and worship. The technology for that is here to a great degree. Such technology will require a world wide power grid, sufficient power to make it happen and the technology to create and run it. I could be wrong but Satan as a created being can't actually work miracles but can mimic them in ways that they appear to humans that don't have the discernment that Jesus warns us to hold onto in the latter days. Well that pretty much leaves the deception that modern technology provides to the uneducated and less than discerning folks.

This is the main reason for the Mark of the beast.
While the MOB will be necessary to buy and sell, the purpose of the MOB is that it will be the identifying mark of those who have pledged their allegiance in worship of The Antichrist.
That is why there is no redemption possible for those who take the mark.
I think there will be something in that mark to track who has it. Today's technology has that ability through RFID.

Invisible 'Radio' Tattoos Could Identify Soldiers

Researchers announce a new passive RFID technology that uses ink instead of metals; the tattoos can be colored or invisible. They might help identify friend vs. foe.

www.livescience.com

The fact that a tracking system would be used says a lot about satan's limitations.
As much as satan wants to be "like God", he cant, and never will be.
God is Omniscient, All knowing.
Satan will enter The Antichrist but due to satan not being all knowing, a tracking system will be needed so The Antichrist will know who has taken the mark and who has not.

 

[Andy C]

This is the main reason for the Mark of the beast.
While the MOB will be necessary to buy and sell, the purpose of the MOB is that it will be the identifying mark of those who have pledged their allegiance in worship of The Antichrist.
That is why there is no redemption possible for those who take the mark.
I think there will be something in that mark to track who has it. Today's technology has that ability through RFID.

Invisible 'Radio' Tattoos Could Identify Soldiers

Researchers announce a new passive RFID technology that uses ink instead of metals; the tattoos can be colored or invisible. They might help identify friend vs. foe.

www.livescience.com

The fact that a tracking system would be used says a lot about satan's limitations.
As much as satan wants to be "like God", he cant, and never will be.
God is Omniscient, All knowing.
Satan will enter The Antichrist but due to satan not being all knowing, a tracking system will be needed so The Antichrist will know who has taken the mark and who has not.

Yes, there could be a tracking element added, but we cant say that with certainty. Will there even be a need to track all those who willingly took the MOB?
What we do know are countless tribulation saints will survive to the end of the 7 year tribulation.