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In the 45 minute video Hope For Our Times goes through some things to be on the look out for. They discuss the Israel vs Islam apparent divide among other things.
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As far as prophecy updates go, this one is not super informative. Although there is an interesting section on Turkey (as Haller is known for a deep focus on that country). The theme we see today in what this watcher perspective of antisemitism looks like is an interesting thing to note as well. At one point Haller does mention the likelihood of Huckabee perhaps not remaining with the Trump Admin team over conscience toward Israel. The thinking is that perhaps Trump's willingness to divide Isreal (per his previous Deal of the Century stance) might be cause for Huckabee to walk to away.
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Ok so I do find the concerns in what this video calls the woke right. Voices like Tucker Carlson and Candace Owens trend towards down playing Israel to some great degree. We do see Israel these days having quite a number of wins. With Trump in office this would seem to increase. To me, I do think there are some legitimate concerns the woke right has towards some of Israel's posturing. I am not altogether convinced Netanyahu is without fault. It does get confusing at times, i must admit.
As for the concern of Huckabee's ambassadorship to Israel, I'm not altogether so sure that Huckabee might walk away. Because, although I understand the sensitivities over dividing up Israel in any way in our day, my exegetical observation of Joel 3:2 is in regards to the dividing of Israel for the purpose of scattering them during the tribulation. The emphasis exegetically is those that have a desire to divide Israel to dismount it. Whereas if Israel for a time is willing to (and i don't see Bibi doing that) have a 2-state solution for the sake of peace for a time through Abraham Accords linkage, that that in the eyes of God would be the be cry found in Joel 3:2. I believe there is a difference. And how that works would, to me, seem to not be in the hands of how we might weigh-in on that in our day, me thinks. For example if Israel does end up with some kind of two state solution for peace sake, to me, this would just be how things lean toward Ez 38, which would be a prophecy no other direction could take...regardless of the common views of our day. Is how i would look at that. Not through the eyes of a Joel 3:2 warning. Because in that, God would allow 2/3rds of Israel be be taken down in Ez 38. Of course with God's protective reprise. But in that case, any two-state solution would be according to where Ez 38 might lead perhaps more than how it might or might not sit with our views about the dividing of Israel. It would be an occurrence not arriving in a vacuum. But in a very very certain context. If that makes sense.
So that leads me to another perspective. Recently i came across this other video. And it provides actually a unique perspective of our day. One in which @1LoverofGod brings up in another thread. "Is what we are witnessing falling into place too easily? And is this just a form of Hegelian Dialectic--two wings of the same bird: Trump really being a conservative face of the NWO?" And although @1LoverofGod of God did not express these sentiments exactly, it is noteworthy in that it is very similar to a long standing "Luciferian Light" view JD Farag has been posturing for years now. According to JD, most certainly, the ease at which compliance comes toward the Trump admin, is far too cozy to be trusted.
And i am aware of this concern. And it is one of the core reasons I stayed on JDF for 4 years even though i do not share a large percentage of the eschatological viewpoints shared there. And i tell ya, it is fascinating to see it come full circle for this forum to actually be asking the same kinds of questions and having potentially the same kinds of concerns. For me, the way I process it is just that I believe there is a certain amount of writing on the wall for the left leaning. And if they see support for their agenda fading, they will be fickle and they will, for comfort sake, acquiesce (for self preservation not for conspiracy). I realize this probably sounds like a simpleton...lol....view. And ok, it may well be. I'll give you that. I am fine if this perspective that the folding NWO stance has a weakness toward self preservation. But that is a very human "of mere men" thing to be about. And I would tend to see it more that than some grand conspiracy. My reasoning comes down to whether our world is under the wizard of Oz wicked mind games more than it is under a sovereign God's end time theater. And although it is often the case seen that if God want's things to devolve into ugly deceptive theater, being one in the same perhaps, to me, it comes down to how visible the character of God upon His creation in the exit strategy might be noticeable in an age of grace still--prior to a tribulation age. The Hegelian Dialectic view, to me, seems to (although out of good faith meant) notice the devils character today more than God's upon His creation. Left with those two focal points, I would believe God's character to be the one more seeable--in "the age of grace."
. . . . .
Which leads me to this video:
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56 minutes
What i noticed about the above video is something interesting. I would say of the two general camps I am aware of, "the watcher world" and the "alt-watcher world," there does seem to be quite a bit of crossover. Both views share the following: As the tribulation comes, we will see more and more beast system activity and more and more lining up under an NWO that brings us into the tribulation. Of those two camps, they both share that view. My eschatological view differs in that i don't think the NWO of today is the one that takes us into the tribulation but reemerges in seal 3. So i expect our NWO to tank. Neither the watcher world or the alt-watcher world hold that view. Just me...lol.
So here is how I see the difference:
The Watcher World: There will be a NWO that leads us into the tribulation
The Alt-Watcher World: There will be a Luciferian Light of the Right to pose as freedom from the NWO but just be a more deceptive version of it.
The reason i believe both perspectives are not accurate, is it holds to have to having some form of a NWO take us into the tribulation. Whereas the watcher world focus is on the tribulation as a satanic empire period, I believe the actual focus in the age of grace is not the beast system leading to the tribulation. But that the tribulation is God's 70th week for Israel more than it is Satan's week for the world. And in that, we will tend to see some very different things. Because for me, the end focus of the age of grace is not about Trump and right wing Hegelian Dialectic deception as much as it is about God's faithfulness to His word and demonstrationally now through Israel. But because of the massive re-orientations included with the ending of the age of grace, it might be rather challenging to leave it at God's character toward Israel. Because we will be challenged with likely quite remarkable occurrences.
One of the major hinge points i believe is in development here is the level or proportion our age might grant toward Satan. If everything is about the mark, the system, and the beast, we will tend to see everything through that schematic. We would see Satan ruling for 7 years to come. I don't believe the bible shows us Satan rules for 7 years. Only the last 3.5. And that view is a Debbie Downer view to both the Watcher and Alt-Watcher perspective. By my take though i wish not to be such a party pooper. I just think the pin the tail on the Satanic donkey approach is not what the end of the age of grace is about. Although I extend much heart to the concerns of the evil that has come upon us in our age, and see the Watcher and Alt-Watcher family as family. And very beloved members of the body of Christ. I would just see our paradigms very different. And that probably won't change. But as the Lord tarries, He grants of course time to talk about it.
I bring up the Watcher World and the Alt-Watcher world distinctions for another reason. In my neck of the woods, the biggest pro-alt-watcher view in mainstream evangelicalism I can think of (in my small corner of the world view) is JD Farag.
OnPointPreparedness -- has 165k subs
E511 -- has 5k subs
Good Fight Ministries -- has 265k subs
There perhaps are other Alt-watcher perspectives. But those 3 channels are the main ones I have been aware of for a while. These seem to make the most noise. I put up the video from The Dance of Life podcast because i just ran into it. Although this video came out 1 year ago (having over 70k views and over 1500 comments) I would like to bring up this point. I don't see ministries like Jack Hibbs, or Billy Crone, or Tom Hughes, or even John Haller seeing things as the Alt-Watcher world does. I don't believe the watcher world in general shares the Alt-Watcher world views. But the Alt-Watcher world views have been around for years. My first awareness of it was with E511 and JD. At the time (during the early Trump and Q years) I was actually supportive of the E511 take. It's concern with Q and all. I understood Pastors concerns with Trump worship and making right wing politics a religion. I supported being in opposition to that. For i could see how the distortion of politics had become. However, it was around 2018 when I started also to see trends into the eschatology view i now hold regarding the 1st seal, Ez 38, and the character of God being demonstrated (in contrast to much of the watcher end times views) during the age of grace closing.
Originally, I was onboard with the JDF view that the Deal of the Century was not good, as it proposed dividing up Israel. I was against that happening. While on JDF over the course of 4 years i had a very detailed discussion with one of the beautiful saints on JDF about the Abrahamic Covenant. We went back and forth a number of times. And it was a great blessings to do so. She also was challenged and encouraged as well as I. It was a wonderful discussion. This led me to understand that although the Abrahamic Covenant is actually eternal, it did have many attributes with it regarding conditions. Israel is by no means complying on their side. And to an extent, it would make sense their non-compliance and unbelief would lead to Ez 38. With that in view it is more likely the way God is dealing with Israel today is of course from His eternal view of the Abrahamic Covenant. Our natural response is for Israel to not divide. However, again, the concern God shared from scripture is over dividing Israel for the purpose of dissolving the nation. Not what peace treatise they may enter in their unbelief. It is also understood that Israel, in her Old Testament covenant with God, were not to make covenants with other nations. This was when they were in covenant with God. Right now they have a partial hardening and from their national perspective are by no means in a covenant with God. So what they do and don't do today is not in relation to "as if" they themselves were otherwise honoring a covenant with God. And i understand this observation can get foggy and blur some lines. But right now, its not like Israel is in good standing with a covenant with God. And if they divide anything or make treatise with other nations, they will suffer violating their covenant. For God divorced that covenant in the first century. Now Isreal is on the mend in God's good grace toward His honoring that eternal covenant. But as tempting as it is for perhaps the church to play quarterback on how Israel violates a covenant today or not, I humbly submit that we are in no wise authorized to do so. And to the extent we might see we are, i believe that arena of confusion is where some of the conflation of OT and NT contrasts for us get fuzzy. Israel right now is in all manner of violation of OT Abrahamic covenant. And it is from that place they do anything today. Other than that, all grace toward them is God's faithfulness. So it is ironic to a degree that we might on one hand know this great grace of God toward them in operation today, yet overlay it with our kind of an armchair quarterbacking as though we might have say upon Israel and their actions today -- as it relates or does not relate to an Abrahamic Covenant. That is between God and them. We really don't have a place in that. As far as i can tell. Other than, yeah if dividing up Israel for the purpose of removing Israel occurs, it would be good for the church to be about being against that. For we know. But beyond that, on one hand we see God faithful to them (which is a character of God theme), yet seem to some degree in ways shoehorn Israel into our blue print schematic of prophecy road mapping of ours (as if Israel fit under the church supervision of how Revelation goes). And while we do so, tend to omit Ez 38 focus, replacing it with beast system focus. But i contend that the age of grace proper (in closing) is in regards to Israel and the character of God, more than it is having to do with the beast system. And to the extent this might sound absurd, it just suggest perhaps how far afield we might have taken our view, perhaps?
. . . . .
Having said all of that, i would suggest something. Aside from pastor JD, there might be other pretribulation rapture people (in official office) that believe in the Alt-Watcher view perspective. But i don't really know of any. For the Luciferian Light theory is owned and operated primarily by those who do not hold a pretrib rapture view. So they can make a Luciferian Light operation concrete today because for them that view that is not pretrib rapture, is that the church will be here. And we will need to be aware of deception because we are going to go through the tribulation. Aside from JD, i know of no other supporter of the Luciferian Light view that is pretrib...that has an official ministry office. So this is good to take note of I believe family. It may not mean much. But one thing it does mean today, is this: The Luciferian Light theory that is concerned with Christian Nationalism getting a foothold "is" a "church goes into the tribulation" position. The reason why Pastor JD was sold on it initially is because of E511. Which is the same as Good Fight Ministries (E511 is the same exact people). Which believes Darby was deceived. And the church goes through the tribulation. Since Trump did warp speed, he was a shoe-in to take an Alt-Watcher fall. And then make him out to be a fall guy all the way down the line. So I just think it might be helpful to know that the main Luciferian Light theory pretrib rapture position comes from JD, who hold's the Luciferian Light theory because of being influenced by the "Christians go through the tribulation" perspective. Those that hold the view that Christians go through the tribulation have every intent to see the Trump admin as the new NWO because they see themselves as the warriors against the antichrist in the tribulation. So i just thought it helpful to note this. Because we are to some degree under the influence of a non-pretrib view when sharing the Luciferian Light theory. And it might be good to check ourselves in that is all. Because if you watch that second video i posted here, you will clearly see that is absolutely the case.
I don't bring this up to convince anyone of my 1st seal view. For it would appear to be an impossible sell. lol. But that's fine. And i have doubts even about it myself, amen. But what is highlighted by the Alt-Right Watcher view is to some degree a refusal to consider the character of God towards Israel's being slowly invited back into the Abrahamic Covenant by God -- as THE main theater today. Above and beyond the shiny objects of the beast system and the Luciferian Light non-pretrib Christian view. By this i am not suggesting we just go with my petty 1st seal view...lol. Heaven's no. But I believe it is good that we watch and consider how far we want to fall from the pretrib rapture tree to sense we are discerning today. I believe it would be good to have discernment weighing out the thoughts in our head as much as we might have suspicion toward Hegelian Dialectic. That we favor how sober minded believers can be aware of how non-pretrib rapture views can overtake us. Because without considering that it might just be, "A pretty convincing argument from the non-pre trib camp" we fall in love in. Maybe the non-pretrib camp can't get us to back away from the pretrib rapture stance. But like the deep state having knowledge that they don't have to change laws, when they can accomplish the same thing by just not enforcing them. So if the non-pretrib rapture crowd can sell us a bill of goods they desperately want to have the directors cut, and we let then have our minds and hearts, in theory they have helped to bring us to their thinking. And I just see it as a pied piper moment. We don't have to. Really. You guys there are other ways to look at this. Mine is not the only alternative. For God could do the same things in His character without it being any seal at all.
I believe there is something good that we might exercise as believers. Perhaps a healthy dose of considering our views might have massive holes in them. I face that with my view every single day. So to me, its like daily bread. But actually, in all honestly, I have not heard a pretrib believer who shares the Luciferian Light view consider that it came from in great part Good Fight Ministries (who have a long and deeply thrashing documentary demonizing Darby). I just don't think we are all that aware of where this might all be coming from. As far as we might consider Alt-Watcher views, amen. But i would warn us not to just go with it. Because its one thing to hold to view because of our convictions. Its another to have our convictions hold us. And what seems to be on the side of the road in this is the preeminent perspective of God's character toward Israel being of greater billboard signific than the beast system focus we tend to be far more influenced by. Us. Children of the light. As 1 Thes calls us. Believing perspectives sold by sincere believers who would see us children of light go into the thralls of the age of darkness. And not realize that whatsoever. This to me should at least be an item on the table of discernment, I believe. Blessings.
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As far as prophecy updates go, this one is not super informative. Although there is an interesting section on Turkey (as Haller is known for a deep focus on that country). The theme we see today in what this watcher perspective of antisemitism looks like is an interesting thing to note as well. At one point Haller does mention the likelihood of Huckabee perhaps not remaining with the Trump Admin team over conscience toward Israel. The thinking is that perhaps Trump's willingness to divide Isreal (per his previous Deal of the Century stance) might be cause for Huckabee to walk to away.
. . . . .
Ok so I do find the concerns in what this video calls the woke right. Voices like Tucker Carlson and Candace Owens trend towards down playing Israel to some great degree. We do see Israel these days having quite a number of wins. With Trump in office this would seem to increase. To me, I do think there are some legitimate concerns the woke right has towards some of Israel's posturing. I am not altogether convinced Netanyahu is without fault. It does get confusing at times, i must admit.
As for the concern of Huckabee's ambassadorship to Israel, I'm not altogether so sure that Huckabee might walk away. Because, although I understand the sensitivities over dividing up Israel in any way in our day, my exegetical observation of Joel 3:2 is in regards to the dividing of Israel for the purpose of scattering them during the tribulation. The emphasis exegetically is those that have a desire to divide Israel to dismount it. Whereas if Israel for a time is willing to (and i don't see Bibi doing that) have a 2-state solution for the sake of peace for a time through Abraham Accords linkage, that that in the eyes of God would be the be cry found in Joel 3:2. I believe there is a difference. And how that works would, to me, seem to not be in the hands of how we might weigh-in on that in our day, me thinks. For example if Israel does end up with some kind of two state solution for peace sake, to me, this would just be how things lean toward Ez 38, which would be a prophecy no other direction could take...regardless of the common views of our day. Is how i would look at that. Not through the eyes of a Joel 3:2 warning. Because in that, God would allow 2/3rds of Israel be be taken down in Ez 38. Of course with God's protective reprise. But in that case, any two-state solution would be according to where Ez 38 might lead perhaps more than how it might or might not sit with our views about the dividing of Israel. It would be an occurrence not arriving in a vacuum. But in a very very certain context. If that makes sense.
So that leads me to another perspective. Recently i came across this other video. And it provides actually a unique perspective of our day. One in which @1LoverofGod brings up in another thread. "Is what we are witnessing falling into place too easily? And is this just a form of Hegelian Dialectic--two wings of the same bird: Trump really being a conservative face of the NWO?" And although @1LoverofGod of God did not express these sentiments exactly, it is noteworthy in that it is very similar to a long standing "Luciferian Light" view JD Farag has been posturing for years now. According to JD, most certainly, the ease at which compliance comes toward the Trump admin, is far too cozy to be trusted.
And i am aware of this concern. And it is one of the core reasons I stayed on JDF for 4 years even though i do not share a large percentage of the eschatological viewpoints shared there. And i tell ya, it is fascinating to see it come full circle for this forum to actually be asking the same kinds of questions and having potentially the same kinds of concerns. For me, the way I process it is just that I believe there is a certain amount of writing on the wall for the left leaning. And if they see support for their agenda fading, they will be fickle and they will, for comfort sake, acquiesce (for self preservation not for conspiracy). I realize this probably sounds like a simpleton...lol....view. And ok, it may well be. I'll give you that. I am fine if this perspective that the folding NWO stance has a weakness toward self preservation. But that is a very human "of mere men" thing to be about. And I would tend to see it more that than some grand conspiracy. My reasoning comes down to whether our world is under the wizard of Oz wicked mind games more than it is under a sovereign God's end time theater. And although it is often the case seen that if God want's things to devolve into ugly deceptive theater, being one in the same perhaps, to me, it comes down to how visible the character of God upon His creation in the exit strategy might be noticeable in an age of grace still--prior to a tribulation age. The Hegelian Dialectic view, to me, seems to (although out of good faith meant) notice the devils character today more than God's upon His creation. Left with those two focal points, I would believe God's character to be the one more seeable--in "the age of grace."
. . . . .
Which leads me to this video:
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www.youtube.com
56 minutes
What i noticed about the above video is something interesting. I would say of the two general camps I am aware of, "the watcher world" and the "alt-watcher world," there does seem to be quite a bit of crossover. Both views share the following: As the tribulation comes, we will see more and more beast system activity and more and more lining up under an NWO that brings us into the tribulation. Of those two camps, they both share that view. My eschatological view differs in that i don't think the NWO of today is the one that takes us into the tribulation but reemerges in seal 3. So i expect our NWO to tank. Neither the watcher world or the alt-watcher world hold that view. Just me...lol.
So here is how I see the difference:
The Watcher World: There will be a NWO that leads us into the tribulation
The Alt-Watcher World: There will be a Luciferian Light of the Right to pose as freedom from the NWO but just be a more deceptive version of it.
The reason i believe both perspectives are not accurate, is it holds to have to having some form of a NWO take us into the tribulation. Whereas the watcher world focus is on the tribulation as a satanic empire period, I believe the actual focus in the age of grace is not the beast system leading to the tribulation. But that the tribulation is God's 70th week for Israel more than it is Satan's week for the world. And in that, we will tend to see some very different things. Because for me, the end focus of the age of grace is not about Trump and right wing Hegelian Dialectic deception as much as it is about God's faithfulness to His word and demonstrationally now through Israel. But because of the massive re-orientations included with the ending of the age of grace, it might be rather challenging to leave it at God's character toward Israel. Because we will be challenged with likely quite remarkable occurrences.
One of the major hinge points i believe is in development here is the level or proportion our age might grant toward Satan. If everything is about the mark, the system, and the beast, we will tend to see everything through that schematic. We would see Satan ruling for 7 years to come. I don't believe the bible shows us Satan rules for 7 years. Only the last 3.5. And that view is a Debbie Downer view to both the Watcher and Alt-Watcher perspective. By my take though i wish not to be such a party pooper. I just think the pin the tail on the Satanic donkey approach is not what the end of the age of grace is about. Although I extend much heart to the concerns of the evil that has come upon us in our age, and see the Watcher and Alt-Watcher family as family. And very beloved members of the body of Christ. I would just see our paradigms very different. And that probably won't change. But as the Lord tarries, He grants of course time to talk about it.
I bring up the Watcher World and the Alt-Watcher world distinctions for another reason. In my neck of the woods, the biggest pro-alt-watcher view in mainstream evangelicalism I can think of (in my small corner of the world view) is JD Farag.
OnPointPreparedness -- has 165k subs
E511 -- has 5k subs
Good Fight Ministries -- has 265k subs
There perhaps are other Alt-watcher perspectives. But those 3 channels are the main ones I have been aware of for a while. These seem to make the most noise. I put up the video from The Dance of Life podcast because i just ran into it. Although this video came out 1 year ago (having over 70k views and over 1500 comments) I would like to bring up this point. I don't see ministries like Jack Hibbs, or Billy Crone, or Tom Hughes, or even John Haller seeing things as the Alt-Watcher world does. I don't believe the watcher world in general shares the Alt-Watcher world views. But the Alt-Watcher world views have been around for years. My first awareness of it was with E511 and JD. At the time (during the early Trump and Q years) I was actually supportive of the E511 take. It's concern with Q and all. I understood Pastors concerns with Trump worship and making right wing politics a religion. I supported being in opposition to that. For i could see how the distortion of politics had become. However, it was around 2018 when I started also to see trends into the eschatology view i now hold regarding the 1st seal, Ez 38, and the character of God being demonstrated (in contrast to much of the watcher end times views) during the age of grace closing.
Originally, I was onboard with the JDF view that the Deal of the Century was not good, as it proposed dividing up Israel. I was against that happening. While on JDF over the course of 4 years i had a very detailed discussion with one of the beautiful saints on JDF about the Abrahamic Covenant. We went back and forth a number of times. And it was a great blessings to do so. She also was challenged and encouraged as well as I. It was a wonderful discussion. This led me to understand that although the Abrahamic Covenant is actually eternal, it did have many attributes with it regarding conditions. Israel is by no means complying on their side. And to an extent, it would make sense their non-compliance and unbelief would lead to Ez 38. With that in view it is more likely the way God is dealing with Israel today is of course from His eternal view of the Abrahamic Covenant. Our natural response is for Israel to not divide. However, again, the concern God shared from scripture is over dividing Israel for the purpose of dissolving the nation. Not what peace treatise they may enter in their unbelief. It is also understood that Israel, in her Old Testament covenant with God, were not to make covenants with other nations. This was when they were in covenant with God. Right now they have a partial hardening and from their national perspective are by no means in a covenant with God. So what they do and don't do today is not in relation to "as if" they themselves were otherwise honoring a covenant with God. And i understand this observation can get foggy and blur some lines. But right now, its not like Israel is in good standing with a covenant with God. And if they divide anything or make treatise with other nations, they will suffer violating their covenant. For God divorced that covenant in the first century. Now Isreal is on the mend in God's good grace toward His honoring that eternal covenant. But as tempting as it is for perhaps the church to play quarterback on how Israel violates a covenant today or not, I humbly submit that we are in no wise authorized to do so. And to the extent we might see we are, i believe that arena of confusion is where some of the conflation of OT and NT contrasts for us get fuzzy. Israel right now is in all manner of violation of OT Abrahamic covenant. And it is from that place they do anything today. Other than that, all grace toward them is God's faithfulness. So it is ironic to a degree that we might on one hand know this great grace of God toward them in operation today, yet overlay it with our kind of an armchair quarterbacking as though we might have say upon Israel and their actions today -- as it relates or does not relate to an Abrahamic Covenant. That is between God and them. We really don't have a place in that. As far as i can tell. Other than, yeah if dividing up Israel for the purpose of removing Israel occurs, it would be good for the church to be about being against that. For we know. But beyond that, on one hand we see God faithful to them (which is a character of God theme), yet seem to some degree in ways shoehorn Israel into our blue print schematic of prophecy road mapping of ours (as if Israel fit under the church supervision of how Revelation goes). And while we do so, tend to omit Ez 38 focus, replacing it with beast system focus. But i contend that the age of grace proper (in closing) is in regards to Israel and the character of God, more than it is having to do with the beast system. And to the extent this might sound absurd, it just suggest perhaps how far afield we might have taken our view, perhaps?
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Having said all of that, i would suggest something. Aside from pastor JD, there might be other pretribulation rapture people (in official office) that believe in the Alt-Watcher view perspective. But i don't really know of any. For the Luciferian Light theory is owned and operated primarily by those who do not hold a pretrib rapture view. So they can make a Luciferian Light operation concrete today because for them that view that is not pretrib rapture, is that the church will be here. And we will need to be aware of deception because we are going to go through the tribulation. Aside from JD, i know of no other supporter of the Luciferian Light view that is pretrib...that has an official ministry office. So this is good to take note of I believe family. It may not mean much. But one thing it does mean today, is this: The Luciferian Light theory that is concerned with Christian Nationalism getting a foothold "is" a "church goes into the tribulation" position. The reason why Pastor JD was sold on it initially is because of E511. Which is the same as Good Fight Ministries (E511 is the same exact people). Which believes Darby was deceived. And the church goes through the tribulation. Since Trump did warp speed, he was a shoe-in to take an Alt-Watcher fall. And then make him out to be a fall guy all the way down the line. So I just think it might be helpful to know that the main Luciferian Light theory pretrib rapture position comes from JD, who hold's the Luciferian Light theory because of being influenced by the "Christians go through the tribulation" perspective. Those that hold the view that Christians go through the tribulation have every intent to see the Trump admin as the new NWO because they see themselves as the warriors against the antichrist in the tribulation. So i just thought it helpful to note this. Because we are to some degree under the influence of a non-pretrib view when sharing the Luciferian Light theory. And it might be good to check ourselves in that is all. Because if you watch that second video i posted here, you will clearly see that is absolutely the case.
I don't bring this up to convince anyone of my 1st seal view. For it would appear to be an impossible sell. lol. But that's fine. And i have doubts even about it myself, amen. But what is highlighted by the Alt-Right Watcher view is to some degree a refusal to consider the character of God towards Israel's being slowly invited back into the Abrahamic Covenant by God -- as THE main theater today. Above and beyond the shiny objects of the beast system and the Luciferian Light non-pretrib Christian view. By this i am not suggesting we just go with my petty 1st seal view...lol. Heaven's no. But I believe it is good that we watch and consider how far we want to fall from the pretrib rapture tree to sense we are discerning today. I believe it would be good to have discernment weighing out the thoughts in our head as much as we might have suspicion toward Hegelian Dialectic. That we favor how sober minded believers can be aware of how non-pretrib rapture views can overtake us. Because without considering that it might just be, "A pretty convincing argument from the non-pre trib camp" we fall in love in. Maybe the non-pretrib camp can't get us to back away from the pretrib rapture stance. But like the deep state having knowledge that they don't have to change laws, when they can accomplish the same thing by just not enforcing them. So if the non-pretrib rapture crowd can sell us a bill of goods they desperately want to have the directors cut, and we let then have our minds and hearts, in theory they have helped to bring us to their thinking. And I just see it as a pied piper moment. We don't have to. Really. You guys there are other ways to look at this. Mine is not the only alternative. For God could do the same things in His character without it being any seal at all.
I believe there is something good that we might exercise as believers. Perhaps a healthy dose of considering our views might have massive holes in them. I face that with my view every single day. So to me, its like daily bread. But actually, in all honestly, I have not heard a pretrib believer who shares the Luciferian Light view consider that it came from in great part Good Fight Ministries (who have a long and deeply thrashing documentary demonizing Darby). I just don't think we are all that aware of where this might all be coming from. As far as we might consider Alt-Watcher views, amen. But i would warn us not to just go with it. Because its one thing to hold to view because of our convictions. Its another to have our convictions hold us. And what seems to be on the side of the road in this is the preeminent perspective of God's character toward Israel being of greater billboard signific than the beast system focus we tend to be far more influenced by. Us. Children of the light. As 1 Thes calls us. Believing perspectives sold by sincere believers who would see us children of light go into the thralls of the age of darkness. And not realize that whatsoever. This to me should at least be an item on the table of discernment, I believe. Blessings.
