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Prediction on who wins the Presidency

Well if we are here a while yet, I hope Trump wins but as pointed out above- the cheaters won last go round.

However as Rose points out, God allowed things to go that way last time, and God is in charge this time and always.

He puts leaders in and takes leaders out.

and that affects the prophetic fulfillment.

Think of it this way- would Israel be fighting and by God's hand alone, winning a 7 front war if Trump were in? Nope, Biden was the antisemite Israel hater in chief who is even now forcing Israel to rely on their own weapons production, forcing them to realize their help isn't from America or any other nation, their help is from GOD alone!

Whoever wins- it will be related to Israel and the fulfillment of prophecy.

At this point in history it's getting pretty obvious that the world is taking sides on Israel and it's lining up - the Christians who support Israel, and the rest of the world including Christians who hate Israel or who think Israel is to blame.

Politicians, leaders, nations, all being tested on that one key issue- Israel, Jerusalem the cup of trembling.

Who stands for Israel against the hatred of the enemy?

This election really boils down to that- who is on the Lord's side? Not who is on Trumps side. Trump if he is on the Lord's side will be good, if he supports Israel America will be blessed but the issue isn't Trump. It's Israel.

Just as Joshua asks that question of the Angel of the Lord- the pre incarnate Jesus- are you on our side or the enemy? NEITHER says the Lord. And Joshua kneels before Him. If this were a mere angel he would have prevented Joshua from worship, but this is the LORD.

Joshua must kneel to Jesus just as Trump or any other leader must.

If they align themselves with God, it's good. If they insist that God is on their side or that God must bless them because they are doing good things- the wheels come off the bus pretty fast. God doesn't serve them when it suits them to use God to win.

They serve God or they will fall and be replaced like Saul was. As always even in their failures, God works it together for the good of His own, for the fulfillment of prophecy, for His glory.

I LOVE this passage in Joshua 5: 13-15 NIV

13 Now when Joshua was near Jericho, he looked up and saw a man standing in front of him with a drawn sword in his hand. Joshua went up to him and asked, “Are you for us or for our enemies?”


14 “Neither,” he replied, “but as commander of the army of the Lord I have now come.” Then Joshua fell facedown to the ground in reverence, and asked him, “What message does my Lord have for his servant?”


15 The commander of the Lord’s army replied, “Take off your sandals, for the place where you are standing is holy.” And Joshua did so.

"if that nation against whom I have spoken turns from its evil, I will relent of the disaster that I thought to bring upon it."
Jeremiah 18:8
 
I received my ballot in the mail. I noticed that Robert Kennedy Jr has his name on the ballot for President of the United States.
This is going to offset the votes if people vote for him and he dropped out of the race and has been asking courts to have states remove his name from the ballots but it's being denied.
This is so wrong and unfair.
He doesn't want to run for President and he can't have his name removed from the ballots.
 
"if that nation against whom I have spoken turns from its evil, I will relent of the disaster that I thought to bring upon it."
Jeremiah 18:8
I need to explain why I chose this verse.
As I stated up thread even if we get a better leader for this country, America needs to turn back to God. The culture in this nation is corrupt immoral and godless. It's the nation as a people who need to repent and turn to God to have God's blessings, or having a better leader is not going to make a difference.
Remember Romans 1:18-32. God gives them over when they turn to vile things and away from God.
This is where we, the church, come in. We are a light standing on a hill. Because we are the light bearers in a dark world We make a difference and while we wait on our blessed hope we need to be about The Father's business and be those Ambassadors for Christ and by loving our neighbor by sharing the gospel and giving them hope through The Only Way to The Father, Jesus, then maybe hearts will change and we may see God bless this nation as He patiently waits on Jesus sheep to finish entering the narrow gate, before He shuts it closed.
 
I'm still standing on:


32 And he said, Oh let not the Lord be angry, and I will speak yet but this once: Peradventure ten shall be found there. And he said, I will not destroy it for ten's sake.
Genesis 18:32, KJV

14 If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.
2 Chronicles 7:14, KJV

1 Blessed is he whose transgression is forgiven, whose sin is covered.
2 Blessed is the man unto whom the Lord imputeth not iniquity, and in whose spirit there is no guile.
3 When I kept silence, my bones waxed old through my roaring all the day long.
4 For day and night thy hand was heavy upon me: my moisture is turned into the drought of summer. Selah.
5 I acknowledge my sin unto thee, and mine iniquity have I not hid. I said, I will confess my transgressions unto the Lord; and thou forgavest the iniquity of my sin. Selah.
Psalm 32:1-5, KJV


:pray: :pray: :amen: :amen: :thankyou: :thankyou:
 
I received my ballot in the mail. I noticed that Robert Kennedy Jr has his name on the ballot for President of the United States.
This is going to offset the votes if people vote for him and he dropped out of the race and has been asking courts to have states remove his name from the ballots but it's being denied.
This is so wrong and unfair.
He doesn't want to run for President and he can't have his name removed from the ballots.
It's just another reason I don't believe in "fair elections" and never have. But like others have said, the Lord will have His way. No political indigestion for me!
 
Well if we are here a while yet, I hope Trump wins but as pointed out above- the cheaters won last go round.

However as Rose points out, God allowed things to go that way last time, and God is in charge this time and always.

He puts leaders in and takes leaders out.

and that affects the prophetic fulfillment.

Think of it this way- would Israel be fighting and by God's hand alone, winning a 7 front war if Trump were in? Nope, Biden was the antisemite Israel hater in chief who is even now forcing Israel to rely on their own weapons production, forcing them to realize their help isn't from America or any other nation, their help is from GOD alone!

Whoever wins- it will be related to Israel and the fulfillment of prophecy.

At this point in history it's getting pretty obvious that the world is taking sides on Israel and it's lining up - the Christians who support Israel, and the rest of the world including Christians who hate Israel or who think Israel is to blame.

Politicians, leaders, nations, all being tested on that one key issue- Israel, Jerusalem the cup of trembling.

Who stands for Israel against the hatred of the enemy?

This election really boils down to that- who is on the Lord's side? Not who is on Trumps side. Trump if he is on the Lord's side will be good, if he supports Israel America will be blessed but the issue isn't Trump. It's Israel.

Just as Joshua asks that question of the Angel of the Lord- the pre incarnate Jesus- are you on our side or the enemy? NEITHER says the Lord. And Joshua kneels before Him. If this were a mere angel he would have prevented Joshua from worship, but this is the LORD.

Joshua must kneel to Jesus just as Trump or any other leader must.

If they align themselves with God, it's good. If they insist that God is on their side or that God must bless them because they are doing good things- the wheels come off the bus pretty fast. God doesn't serve them when it suits them to use God to win.

They serve God or they will fall and be replaced like Saul was. As always even in their failures, God works it together for the good of His own, for the fulfillment of prophecy, for His glory.

I LOVE this passage in Joshua 5: 13-15 NIV

13 Now when Joshua was near Jericho, he looked up and saw a man standing in front of him with a drawn sword in his hand. Joshua went up to him and asked, “Are you for us or for our enemies?”


14 “Neither,” he replied, “but as commander of the army of the Lord I have now come.” Then Joshua fell facedown to the ground in reverence, and asked him, “What message does my Lord have for his servant?”


15 The commander of the Lord’s army replied, “Take off your sandals, for the place where you are standing is holy.” And Joshua did so.
@Margery
Wow! Excellent perspective.
How edifying. You did a great job of articulating your thoughts.
Thank you.
 
I'm still standing on:


32 And he said, Oh let not the Lord be angry, and I will speak yet but this once: Peradventure ten shall be found there. And he said, I will not destroy it for ten's sake.
Genesis 18:32, KJV

14 If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.
2 Chronicles 7:14, KJV

1 Blessed is he whose transgression is forgiven, whose sin is covered.
2 Blessed is the man unto whom the Lord imputeth not iniquity, and in whose spirit there is no guile.
3 When I kept silence, my bones waxed old through my roaring all the day long.
4 For day and night thy hand was heavy upon me: my moisture is turned into the drought of summer. Selah.
5 I acknowledge my sin unto thee, and mine iniquity have I not hid. I said, I will confess my transgressions unto the Lord; and thou forgavest the iniquity of my sin. Selah.
Psalm 32:1-5, KJV


:pray: :pray: :amen: :amen: :thankyou: :thankyou:
@Ghoti Ichthus
Genesis 18:32 has also been on my heart too.
Thank you for sharing these passages with us.
 
I received my ballot in the mail. I noticed that Robert Kennedy Jr has his name on the ballot for President of the United States.
This is going to offset the votes if people vote for him and he dropped out of the race and has been asking courts to have states remove his name from the ballots but it's being denied.
This is so wrong and unfair.
He doesn't want to run for President and he can't have his name removed from the ballots.
I'm no fan of CBS but this helps explain why RFKJ is on the ballot in some states.
I think it's a brilliant move, something the dems do planting their RINO'S into elections.
He'll help move votes away from Harris in predominately democrat areas.

Map shows where RFK Jr. is on the ballot in the 2024 election

"Seeing no path to victory, Kennedy endorsed former President Donald Trump in a speech in Phoenix on Aug. 23. But he said his name would remain on the ballot in non-battleground states and encouraged voters there to still vote for him.

In battleground states, "where my presence would be a spoiler, I'm going to remove my name, and I've already started that process and urge voters not to vote for me," he said. He added that the campaign's polling consistently showed that he would "likely hand the election over to the Democrats" if he was on the ballot in battleground states."
 
I didn't realize he was still on the ballot in so many states. I don't think he ever qualified to be on the ballot in Wyoming. In some states he tried to get off the ballot but couldn't.
I'm not sure how much difference it will really make with how the Electoral College is set up though.
I don't like the winner take all system as it gives Ca. and other populous states too much influence imo.
Your state has 3 electors and mine has 10. Here in Mo., St. Louis and K. City( mostly dem) unfairly shape this mostly red state.

As to the OP I think if we could actually know the real numbers for the popular vote, I think Trump is stomping on Harris. Probably closer to 60-40 or higher in his favor with actual legal voters, not this supposed nail biter show of 48-49 designed for ratings and viewership.
But as others have stated, I don't see him being allowed to take office (likely massive fraud and cheating again) and if he does win, I'm not sure we are prepared for the ensuing meltdown the rabid left will engage in.

Considering where I believe we are, on the timeline towards the trib events, I believe this country is likely to receive the leader that many desire in this increasingly godless society.
Either way it goes, I pray the Lords will be done!
 
In some states, the ballots had already been printed before Kennedy dropped out, and it wasn't feasible to reprint and distribute before the election. Much of this due to mailing out ballots to military, missionary, and other absentee voters, especially those overseas. It wouldn't be right (and maybe not legal) to have different versions/editions of ballots, and would likely create lawsuits, etc. This is also very expensive and could create financial burdens in some places.

The whole thing is unfortunate, but I'm guessing there are published cut-off dates for getting on and getting of ballots for each state (I could be wrong about this). There was something about this in the news about Ohio with regard to ballot deadlines and the DFL National Convention this past summer.

He's on the ballot I received.
 
A thought came to mind about the election.
Let's say Trump wins the election.
The process in a Presidential election includes the certification of the outcome of the election.
Who certifies the outcome?
The Vice president.
As far as I know, Biden stepped away from the re-election but has not left his position as President and Kamala Harris is still VP.

How can the Vice President certify the outcome of the election, when she is the opposing party's Candidate for the election, and if she lost, she's insisted that Trump is a threat to democracy, and would likely say Trump's win is illegitimate, just like 2016?
Would she certify Trump's win? What happens if she refuses to certify him as the 47th President?
I'm not sure what the Constitution says whether someone else would certify the outcome of the election if the VP is running for President.
This is going to be interesting.
 
A thought came to mind about the election.
Let's say Trump wins the election.
The process in a Presidential election includes the certification of the outcome of the election.
Who certifies the outcome?
The Vice president.
As far as I know, Biden stepped away from the re-election but has not left his position as President and Kamala Harris is still VP.

How can the Vice President certify the outcome of the election, when she is the opposing party's Candidate for the election, and if she lost, she's insisted that Trump is a threat to democracy, and would likely say Trump's win is illegitimate, just like 2016?
Would she certify Trump's win? What happens if she refuses to certify him as the 47th President?
I'm not sure what the Constitution says whether someone else would certify the outcome of the election if the VP is running for President.
This is going to be interesting.
This same scenario has happened several times before.
 
I am going to be the weird one out here. I will vote but I put no stock that it will do much. Looking at prophecy and seeing how humanity will have slidden so far down in future times I think it does not really matter who wins. It will not change prophecy only fulfill it. Given what we have seen in the past two national elections I doubt a fair election will ever happen again, too many evil people in positions of power they don't want to lose. I will go down and vote because it is my Constitutional right to do so and then I will wait and see what happens. I fully expect something will come up like the last time, there will be trouble in many cities. All I want to know is which cities and how can I stay away from it.

I mean look at all of prophecy. It is not hard to see what is going to happen will be because slowly Satan will be given control till the restrainer is removed and then literally all hell will break loose. I can't change that, none of us can. In short there is no going back to better times no matter how much we would like to. It ain't gonna happen.

Then there is the prophetic words of "as in the days of Noah." A bit of study and research tells us for many life was more miserable than it is now. Children were sacrificed, it sounds like crime was rampant, what ever form of government that may have existed then was fully corrupt. That is exactly what we are seeing now. Children are butchered in the womb and those that make it to birth some end up trafficked into sex slave work and others into forced labor.

If nothing else just considering that the time of Noah was so bad that God chose to destroy the whole world means what is about to become an every day reality is getting very close and will succeed till His patience is no more. That means simply as bad as things are now even in more advanced countries they are about to get much worse. And for all intents and purposes it will be world wide not just a US thing. So what ever happens in the US will either have no affect on what is coming world wide or it will be allowed to contribute to it one way or another. I know that all sounds pessimistic but if I am to believe prophecy then it is true just not the fine details of how it will all come about. Our hope is not in or of this world. Even right after Jesus ascended and for many years afterwards Christians died as martyrs. You know their lives got no better and I fully suspect if we do not see it full blown we will see the lead up to it over the coming years for how ever long we have left here.
 
No doubt more people will vote for Trump than for Kamala.
No doubt “they” will do everything and anything they can think of to keep him from being president.
I don’t feel good about it at all. But it’s all up to the Lord.
I’ve already heard rumors that should Trump win “Kamalalala will personally certify the election” (I don’t see how that’s possible) and further rumors suggest that the Dems won’t leave the WH peacefully.

I know that if Trump wins :pray: the left will literally have a cow, along with all these rich globalists who’ve sunk a ton into Harris’ campaign, not counting countries that Bribem are getting rich from like Ukraine and China among others.

Recall that when we finally found out that they stole the election, Trump gracefully left the WH.
 
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