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Pentagon agrees to host Qatari F-15 fighter jets and pilots at Idaho air base

LydiaJoy

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https://www.foxnews.com/politics/he...y-idaho-following-partnership-gaza-peace-deal

It’s also more than the above, the United States is giving Qatar 50 acres of land Receipts below

It’s official. The U.S. Air Force has already signed off on Qatar’s F-15QA fighter jet base in Idaho. The proof is in black and white — straight from http://mountainhome.af.mil and signed by Col. Ernesto M. Divittorio, Commander of the 366th Fighter Wing.

The document titled “Finding of No Significant Impact” confirms that the U.S. approved Qatar to fund, build, and operate its own F-15QA facilities inside Mountain Home Air Force Base, allocating roughly 50 acres for new hangars, simulators, housing, and support buildings. Allocates ~50 acres for Qatar-funded facilities (hangars, simulators, housing).

Projects 1,000+ temporary personnel (including families). Public comment period closed in 2023; supports joint U.S.-Qatari F-15 training. $200 Million plus in govt Contracts more to established in 2026. It authorizes the construction and renovation of 23 buildings, over 4 miles of new roads, 519 parking spaces, and more than 264,000 square feet of flightline, housing, and training infrastructure.

Duration: Approves an initial 10-year beddown, with an option to extend. Signature: Signed and dated 25 March 2022 by Col. Ernesto M. Divittorio, Commander, 366th Fighter Wing
 
Haven’t we already had a few issues with this population training in the US?
The top 2 that come to mind are:

1) The 2019 terrorist attack at Naval Air Station Pensacola in Florida was carried out by Mohammed Saeed Alshamrani, a Muslim Saudi Air Force officer who was participating in a training program. The Department of Justice officially classified the incident as an act of terrorism motivated by "jihadist ideology".

2) Multiple Saudi citizens were enrolled in flight schools in Florida and other states in the early 2000s, including some who later participated in the September 11, 2001, terrorist attacks. In the attacks, 15 of the 19 hijackers were Saudi nationals. Their presence at civilian flight schools in the U.S., particularly in Florida, became a major focus of the post-9/11 investigation.
 
Can anyone here tell me WHY Qatar's Air Force needs a base in our country?????
Is this "payback" for that plane they have given Trump????? What is the purpose of this????
Its not a Qatar air base. They are building a few training facilites bldgs on our US Air Base in Mountain Home ID. It will be used to train their pilots in the Jets they bought from us. This agreement to add a training facility for Qatar pilots was agreed upon several years ago.

The US has trained many foreign pilots throughout our Air Bases for decades.

Keep in mind the largest air base the USA military has in the Middle East is in Qatar.
 
I understand the concerns here. But I believe it is healthy to consider how we might be processing things in our day. Below is an article that covers this base issue. So it certainly is something that struck a lot of people the wrong way, amen. But I am kind of noticing a trend of how we are perceiving things as a whole in some ways (particularly the church). I bring this up because some things to possibly consider are of "paradigm" size. Huge templates or filters we use to evaluate everything else.

Although globalism has been active in American government since at least as far back as JFK assassination, what seems to be more trendy today than the realization of globalist effect in government, is our sense of being able to see both dems and reps are two sides of the same coin. The reason why that is where that is is because of globalism. But globalism is still an entity unto itself operating in the other two camps (dems and reps). It is easy to get lost in some of that. But it seems we can tend to stop at the threshold of whatever awareness comes with seeing D's and R's as infiltrated. 20 years ago, this was kind of a novelty. Contemporaneously though, to me, this view does not go nearly far enough.

The reason we have MAGA is because globalism wants to defund America and tame its global effect under the powers of other power brokering nations (this was admitted by WEC). In addition to, genuine moves away from globalist control of the US have, from what i can tell, fallen prey to the whole Christian Nationalism/This is not our home debate. Making the US a further complication of tempting believers to trust in temporal government over our eternal home. Which to me is kind of a given. But this is something I have seen floating out there that seems to be a spiritual assault on America from the church (like globalism is economically and politically). Making caring about a nation under assault to be petty, or even idolatry. But if we look at it in a particular light, it is possibly just another way to allow erosion of America. Looked at through a particular lens.

. . . . .

Obviously those sentiments above will not be agreed upon by all or even some. But two things are occurring regardless how we feel about it and why we see it is occuring:

1) Globalism wants to own America
2) Christian themes to equate America with holding on to the earth too tightly

In both cases: America bad. And it seems to be a practice. There are a lot of things not to be proud of in America. Amen. But if we understood how much of that was actually related to decades of Marxist/globalist influence, we would probably be pretty shocked. Did globalism start the massive pron industry? Not that I am aware of. So there is an example that America pumps adultery and very easy access fluid forms of sexual content like candy to the world. America is the heart pumping artery of porn to the wold. Not a good national standing before God Amen. And this had to do with human sin. Not globalism. But I think we would be shocked if we understood just how deep the globalist/marxist rabbit hole goes in the US.

So, yes i bring up globalism as a thing quite a bit because of how prevalent it is. And yes i bring it up enough in eschatological reference. But I believe we are in a very precious time. A time where God is allowing us to see the middle east transform before our eyes. Some notions of eschatology can be rather taboo. But one thing i would hope make sense at some one point is the relation of our age and the millennial kingdom. We tend to compare this age with the tribulaiton. And there are reasons to do that. But to "never" compare it to the millennial kingdom I believe can tend to truncate perspective.

What it looks like is forming in the middle east is a representational peace and safety for Israel. A temporal "mirror" likely of the thousand year reign on purpose. Israel is promised by God to reign with Him. Israel has forgotten her God. So to me, it just makes sense that God "mirror" for them that promise in temporal language they can understand, witness, and become even themselves. To me, its like a pop-up thousand-year reign living and "bigger than life" Christian tract unto Israel about God's promise to them. Likely as a last chance to repent and rapture with the church. They don't have to have their 70th week. We know they will. But if we have these two filters as considerations:

A) How globalism distorts America -- and what is globalist true game theory
B) The Middle East as a mirror of the thousand year reign (not for the gentile church) for Israel to repent before their big week

If we have these two filters as considerations, we have opportunity to see things outside our own paradigm makings of how to view a whole host of things. I use filter A as that which will likely be taken down by God perhaps in our age before us. And B as that which is according to Israel more than the tribulation or how perhaps the church might report on prophecy proper. I just put this out there because using these two filters has kind of been what has been going on for a decade now. And its time has come to at least be a potential seat at the table consideration. Even though prophecy watch won't caption it is such, it seems that those two elements:

Globalism
Millennial Mirroring

....those two things are likely the two biggest character roles in our age. We could say a lot about Qatar. They gave Jared Kushner bailout money to salvage the 666 New York high-rise on 5th avenue. Maybe a blend of the Arab world and America becomes Babylon the Great or something during the tribulation. But "if" God is interested in showing Israel a thousand year reign "taste" mirror in the middle east, would that not suggest a gentile world somewhat also at peace? If that is where things are going, I would not view that as false peace. But that which marks a likely rapture bang zone. A time where the world experiences massive unusual peace at a time where the church is looking for WW3, false peace, AC, one world government control etc. It might just be the fading of globalism and all her weapons to divide us all over the place resulting in more peace.

Well i just offer that as a consideration because globalism in a sense has already collapsed to a great degree. They did not get their global reset. They did not get their global vaccine passports. They did not shut down world economies to bring in the global reset. And if the FED is restructured under the treasury, central banking as we know it is dead. And printing money that devalues daily, a problem of the past. These are likely good omens. To be experienced for only a very short while. So if we see:

The FED lose power
Central Banking lose power
Republican Super Majority at the midterms

To me, that is not globalism winning through the republican arm. To me, that would just be God using America to provide Israel a middle east they can live with. And maybe "Ending the 3000 year war in the middle east" sound too much like a sales pitch. Or sounds too dangerously good to be true. Maybe it actually can be true under God's direction "according to Isreal" more than perhaps our views of eschatology templates. In that sense I believe it would be seeing America potentially as right sized. That which God used to bring peace to the middle east...for Israel. Why for Israel? To show them the promise one more time. So to me, the quagmire question i reckon would be:

Is it the beast system or the promise that is more on display today?

Blessings.
 
Lydia Joy...... thanks, those incidents you mentioned are part of my concerns, for sure.
mine too.

The memory of 911 is still fresh, I don't want to see that again.

The Qataris are not just an "ally" and a useful one in the middle east, providing an air base for the US over there,

... but they are also proven to work WITH and not against Iran, they are the premier source for funnelling money and arms into Gaza and the "west bank" area inside Israel.

If that wasn't enough --the same guy that was in this news article has been witnessed by news media in the past declaring "we are Hamas" in an expression of solidarity with Hamas.

I don't see why training exercises can't be done on their soil, or on the soil of Saudi Arabia.

There is PLENTY of evidence that Muslims use these temporary peace agreements till an opportunity comes to attack.

Nothing like giving them a beach head right in Idaho, as if Dearborn Michigan wasn't a good enough beach head.
 
mine too.

The memory of 911 is still fresh, I don't want to see that again.

The Qataris are not just an "ally" and a useful one in the middle east, providing an air base for the US over there,

... but they are also proven to work WITH and not against Iran, they are the premier source for funnelling money and arms into Gaza and the "west bank" area inside Israel.

If that wasn't enough --the same guy that was in this news article has been witnessed by news media in the past declaring "we are Hamas" in an expression of solidarity with Hamas.

I don't see why training exercises can't be done on their soil, or on the soil of Saudi Arabia.

There is PLENTY of evidence that Muslims use these temporary peace agreements till an opportunity comes to attack.

Nothing like giving them a beach head right in Idaho, as if Dearborn Michigan wasn't a good enough beach head.
So after reading this the thought occurred to me...maybe the reason America is silent in Ez 38 is because we were too partnered up? And romancing the Arab royal crown to know how we might respond after a night of inebriation, cometh a daunting Ez 38 hangover morning [mourning]. Interesting how no-one previously offered that possible take. But if we get all phat and sassy off the Arab dinning table of filet mignon...maybe ALL of the that is shade for Ez 38. Like America gets rocked to sleep like a pampered pouty baby...lol. Is that the plan? To romance America unto catnappin?

In this delivery, Saudi Arabia asked a question about spoil maybe not as surprised, but as the voice America can't have because she is too ashamed at that point to ask? lol. I dunno. But if that is the case, then looking at it all with whatever garden variety of distain we might, how do we process all the noticed issues of concern along the way EVEN THOUGH it be the exact mechanics of prophetic fulfillment? Not sure how that works. Any suggestions?
 
Thank you, Margerie, for your thoughtful response to this situation. It matches perfectly with my concerns.
Sometimes I get the feeling that my voice here receives the feedback of those who feel I am either a
a devout democrat (OMG!!) or a senile old woman who is blowing hot air. (I'm neither, by the way) but I value
your knowledge and ability to see both sides of a situation. I feel we problem, or a gall should ask the Father through the Holy Spirit to
give us discernment and question the whys and where-fors of all that is going on. I know I am often a dissenting voice, but
that is what democracy and even free will are all about, isn't it?? I want to know all I can about things............especially in these troubling times.

I feel that all of us need to look - not so much to the laws of the Old Testament and the laws of the Pharisees, - but to the red-letter words of Jesus!! How did HE teach us to love people, to treat people??? Too many people seem to worship the bible itself, rather than focus on what JESUS taught us while He was here. HE IS THE WORD!! That old King James messed with the written Word. I'm not discounting the value of the bible, but certainly Jesus Himself superceeded it. He came to fulfill it. Because, the law's purpose was to show us we re sinners and need the Savior........it did not solve mankind's problems. Jesus and His attitudes and teachings are what can bring peace and harmony to mankind.
 
Thank you, Margerie, for your thoughtful response to this situation. It matches perfectly with my concerns.
Sometimes I get the feeling that my voice here receives the feedback of those who feel I am either a
a devout democrat (OMG!!) or a senile old woman who is blowing hot air. (I'm neither, by the way) but I value
your knowledge and ability to see both sides of a situation. I feel we problem, or a gall should ask the Father through the Holy Spirit to
give us discernment and question the whys and where-fors of all that is going on. I know I am often a dissenting voice, but
that is what democracy and even free will are all about, isn't it?? I want to know all I can about things............especially in these troubling times.

I feel that all of us need to look - not so much to the laws of the Old Testament and the laws of the Pharisees, - but to the red-letter words of Jesus!! How did HE teach us to love people, to treat people??? Too many people seem to worship the bible itself, rather than focus on what JESUS taught us while He was here. HE IS THE WORD!! That old King James messed with the written Word. I'm not discounting the value of the bible, but certainly Jesus Himself superceeded it. He came to fulfill it. Because, the law's purpose was to show us we re sinners and need the Savior........it did not solve mankind's problems. Jesus and His attitudes and teachings are what can bring peace and harmony to mankind.
Thank you for sharing your heart dear sister. This is awesome. I would encourage you to stay curious in challenging the narrative if it needs it...or seems to need it. I hold back quite a bit on this forum for certain eschatological reason, but where it might be appropriate or where it might actually be helpful i do try and weigh in as often and deep as possible. Life is short. Thaks for sharing such an awesome sentiment as you have here. Its beautiful. :heart:

For about a year a while back when Servus Christi was making videos I used to get in thick with the comments as each one launched. They were hyper provocative (as they should be). And then came the war between the reformeds and those not reformed. And it was brutal. Many times i was pegged as selling out because at that time i still defended sentiments of the reformed faith--while mostly being edified by Josh's videos that were actually accurate in concern. And it was incredible and awesome to watch. But he wanted to make it a fight between he (servus Christi) and the big dogs of the reformed camp. His audience was never the leadership (although he certainly did shake them up). His audience was their followers.

I stood in the balance of understanding where the reformeds were coming from (even though i saw it as wrong i know they meant it in love--and some of it is pretty intriguing to consider how they use ministry philosophy). But pound for pound i was down with the decenters. But I am not (nor will I ever...so help me God--i was for a while) a fundamentalist. I used to be. But that camp for the most part is savage. And extremely hurtful. However I do like Spencer Smith. But in general my history and experience with fundamentalism is it has tended to go like full woke cultish like in ways. Thus i think you sharing the worship of the bible.

I believe there are some folks on our forum that lean toward fundamentalism. And i understand. I was too. I didn't know it. But that is what i was. In addition I believe there is actually a need for it to a degree. Had it not been for fundamentalism, the SBC would have never fought against Darwinians. I just share the concern i believe that so much of the church these days seem to be opinion driven. In any case, tryig to keep these posts shorter as a rule. But I really appreciate decent that is authentic. It is truly beautiful. And thank you dear sister for bringing such heart to the forum. Amen!!! :heart:
 
Sorry about the gobble-Dee-hook in the first paragraph.....my computer sometimes has a mind of its own!
Daughter calls it auto carrot- which refers to that awful auto correct.

...should ask the Father through the Holy Spirit to give us discernment and question the whys and where-fors of all that is going on. I know I am often a dissenting voice, but
that is what democracy and even free will are all about, isn't it??

YES! We should be asking how these things fit.

It's a difficult balance. People aren't all good or all bad, same with leaders. And as Christians and voters, we may not always see eye to eye on politics, but in fellowship we are side by side.

Politics is a volatile subject. It's not like sports, where you have your team, your friend has theirs, and you enjoy the game together.

Politics enters our space here because it affects Prophecy. It's one of the ways we can look at how certain prophecies are forming in advance.



Something I think Trump is doing right now is helping Israel towards the goal of living safely in Israel. This thread is about the peculiar mixture of stuff that is happening with Qatar and the Trump family as well as Trump and America. It is tied to Israel- because the Qataris were involved in this "deal".

Qatar IS technically an ally, but not always. At the bottom line, they are ISLAMIC FUNDAMENTALISTS and as such they are NOT thinking like we are.



Which then leads me to ask, OK Lord, why is this happening now? What purpose does it serve? Is it part of the rapid fire arrangement of the chess pieces on the board ready for the Trib and I think it is.


Trump is a change agent, someone whose talent lies in bringing about rapid change from the old way things were, to the way they are going to be. He does it far faster than is comfortable. NATO, tariffs, bitcoin, economic change, tech stuff, legal precedents being overturned. He's changing a lot, and it's happening fast. Some is good, some is not. But it's all necessary if we are going to see the the chess pieces lining up for the end game in the Tribulation (and we take the off ramp of the Rapture before that)

So then God has this man in place to bring about change.

Necessary to go from a world where the USA is the world's policeman, to a world where the AC can arise and take charge after we leave.

A world where Israel dwells in peace and safety in the Judean hillsides that are called "the west bank" but are the heartland of Israel, the spine of mountains going north south rising above the Jordan valley and it's river that form the actual boundary that Jordan belongs east of. NOT west, in the middle of Israel.

We aren't there just yet.

Trump said firmly that Israel doesn't get to "annex" Judea and Samaria, even though they are theirs by rights. He is forcing Israeli troops to retreat AGAIN in Gaza, so that this peace treaty has a chance. That DOES actually divide the land. It takes land that Israel won back by blood, and gives it to their enemies. In Gaza AND in the so called West Bank.

And we still haven't seen if Hamas will give up the hostages.

But the Qataris are moving rapidly forward in the lists of Trumps' allies. Even before this deal starts with the hostages coming home. Qatar is enmeshed with the finances of Trump and his family, Qatar is getting an air base on American soil.

The way that Muslims think about territory, once they gain ANY foothold that land is THEIRS, and it's a sacred obligation to keep it.

This is what that base in Idaho means to them as Muslims. It is part of the process of Islamic take over. It's why they wanted to build a mosque on the grounds of the WTC after 911. It wasn't some peace gesture, it's the same reason they built the Dome of the Rock on the Temple Mount. A visible sign of their takeover of the planet.

To answer the question- why?
 
Or, the rapture decimated Americas ability to fight with so many snatched up, thus opening the door for the Gog-magog coalition to think they can destroy Israel.
The way i see it is the rapture occurs as the bombs are dropping on Israel. Call it sentimental, but JD used to say "When the bombs come down...we go up." I don't here him say that as much any more (maybe he does i don't know), but I liked that and i think it is likely accurate because I believe Ez 38 is a response to the Jews not taking the hint from God about the promises He has for Israel. And showing them by providing them peace and safety for the first time ever in the middle east in times of modern history. So I guess it does not have to be perfectly timed.

Something like Ez 38 would take quite a bit of planning. So i don't think it would be a rushed scenario. Other than whwatever hooks Gog's jaw because something pulls him in abruptly apparently. So yeah, like what if the hook is because of the rapture, Israel is fair game from God's judgement (no longer having the church in the world to protect them from His allowing very damaging themes to occur). So yeah i suppose it could be the rapture and then Ez 38. So the next time i go to a bar, which is never, I will ask for an Ezekiel 38 with a rapture twist on the rocks. Because that is the drink i believe on order.

But totally, i mean the rapture could occur and then Saudi Arabia is like, "Duh, uh...what? Are they after Israel's spoil? Wait. Like, what just happened George?"
 
The way i see it is the rapture occurs as the bombs are dropping on Israel. Call it sentimental, but JD used to say "When the bombs come down...we go up." I don't here him say that as much any more (maybe he does i don't know), but I liked that and i think it is likely accurate because I believe Ez 38 is a response to the Jews not taking the hint from God about the promises He has for Israel. And showing them by providing them peace and safety for the first time ever in the middle east in times of modern history. So I guess it does not have to be perfectly timed.

Something like Ez 38 would take quite a bit of planning. So i don't think it would be a rushed scenario. Other than whwatever hooks Gog's jaw because something pulls him in abruptly apparently. So yeah, like what if the hook is because of the rapture, Israel is fair game from God's judgement (no longer having the church in the world to protect them from His allowing very damaging themes to occur). So yeah i suppose it could be the rapture and then Ez 38. So the next time i go to a bar, which is never, I will ask for an Ezekiel 38 with a rapture twist on the rocks. Because that is the drink i believe on order.

But totally, i mean the rapture could occur and then Saudi Arabia is like, "Duh, uh...what? Are they after Israel's spoil? Wait. Like, what just happened George?"
I've pondered/speculated for several decades that the rapture hits as or just before the bombs start to fall, etc. It has nothing to do with dreams or visions but just a scenario I've felt strongly about. Some are now saying we go up when they come down.....as in fallen angels posing as aliens, instead of or with bombs.
 
I've pondered/speculated for several decades that the rapture hits as or just before the bombs start to fall, etc. It has nothing to do with dreams or visions but just a scenario I've felt strongly about. Some are now saying we go up when they come down.....as in fallen angels posing as aliens, instead of or with bombs.
lol. Well that too. lol. I don't really have an opinion on alien invasion stuff. That sort of thing would have interested me a decade ago. But I'm not so into that sort of view even if it might have merit. But fun idea for sure...lol.

Technically of course it does not have to be when the bombs come down. From Ez 38 it sounds like they just do old school muscle in and take the state over. The only bombs maybe would be God retaliating? But in any event that would mean the church is still here when Israel gets hit. And what i do believe about that though is when the cover of the church is gone...Israel is more vulnerable before God. To me, it is as if God is preserving Israel as long as the church is here. And Ez 38 is what it looks like when they don't have our cover. So i would just think we rapture at the same time of the attach or just before. Personally, i think God makes it more about Israel than aliens. I don't know how the rapture would be explained but if it happens at the same time as Ez 38, it might be days before some notice a rapture might have also occurred kind of thing maybe.
 
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