New details emerge in door-knock prank homicide of 11-year-old Texas boy

[LydiaJoy]

A 42-year-old homeowner, Gonzalo Leon Jr., has been charged with murder.

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New details emerge in door-knock prank homicide of 11-year-old Texas boy

At least 20 firearms, including AR-style rifles, have been seized by police from the home of a Texas man charged with murder in the fatal shooting door-knocking prank

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Texas man charged with murder in shooting of child playing doorbell prank

Julian Guzman, 11, was shot and killed after ringing the doorbell and running away, police said.

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Julian's cousin, who was not identified in court records, told investigators that he and Julian had been at a birthday party in the neighborhood when they "became bored and wanted to ring doorbells, or play 'ding dong ditch,'" according to the complaint.

The cousin told investigators that he and Julian both went up to Leon's blue house, knocked on the door and ran, according to the complaint. The cousin told investigators that the sound of a gunshot "caused him to look back at the house they were running from, where he saw a person, who he described as wearing all black, extend his arm and shoot one more time," according to the complaint.

--The guy shot a kid in his back while he was running away from him, killing the child, all because the child knocked on his door and ran away. Why in the world would he think that was okay? Drugs must be involved.

 

[Baby Yoda]

The guy shot a kid in his back while he was running away from him,

You can't do that even if someone had been in your house and was now running away. Let alone a kid.

 

[dwb]

This was a common game for kids when I was young. Back in the late 60's-early 70's kids in my neighborhood did this all the time. Getting shot was never even a possibility.

 

[KMendel]

Welcome to today's world. It may have been a "hoot" to play this game back in the day, but there are so many things that are no longer safe.
Why? People are scared of the lawlessness of others around them, and kids need to be made aware of this and not encroach on other's property.
Other people are the lawless ones, who shoot first just because they have a gun and can. Some people are just plain evil. It's very, very sad........
but, it's the world we live in today and it is only getting worse. Parents.......teach your kids to respect others' property and privacy.............if you don't, you may very well end up a grieving parent. I'm sorry this happened..........but its not the first time and it won't be the last.

 

[Cheeky200386]

This is a tragedy. I will have to teach my children that you can avoid most problems by avoiding the 3 biggest pitfalls:

1. Stupid Time
2. Stupid People
3. Stupid Place

The more you check on that list the higher your possibility of something stupid happening.

People are crazier and the world just isn’t what it was when we were young.

 

[Kem]

You could always do what my Shawn did a couple of years back on Halloween. He was in his early 50s at that point and some teens egged his front door. He heard the eggs hit and jumped up and chased them down the street in his bare feet no less.
He actually out ran them, caught them and marched them back to his house, gave them a bucket of water and ordered them to wash the door. He also informed them that nothing better happen to any of his neighbors on the entire street because if it did, he would take their names to their parents and to the police. The door got scrubbed, nothing happened to his entire street the rest of the night. lolol

 

[Andy C]

This is the kind of person who give guns and gun owners a bad reputation.

If you own a gun, you need to know the laws that apply as to when you can shoot.

If the facts as reported in the article are correct, its cold blooded murder. Perhaps he has PTSD, and a loud bang at night triggered him, but even then, its still murder

 

[Tall Timbers]

If you own a gun, you need to know the laws that apply as to when you can shoot.

For me, I don't see the quoted as being important. I have my own rules as to when to shoot/not shoot and am willing to live with any consequences should I be in violation of a local/state law wherever the thing happened to happen.

That said, there's a very useful app that I use when traveling, not so much to review the gun laws of different states relevant to self defense/defending others, but just to see if my conceal carry is valid in the states I'm passing through, and if they're not, what gun storage method do I need to use when passing through that state. The name of the app is "Reciprocity".

 

[Andy C]

For me, I don't see the quoted as being important. I have my own rules as to when to shoot/not shoot and am willing to live with any consequences should I be in violation of a local/state law wherever the thing happened to happen.

That said, there's a very useful app that I use when traveling, not so much to review the gun laws of different states relevant to self defense/defending others, but just to see if my conceal carry is valid in the states I'm passing through, and if they're not, what gun storage method do I need to use when passing through that state. The name of the app is "Reciprocity".

You would be surprised at the number of “smart” gun owners who find themselves in prison because they thought they knew when deadly force can be used.



I probably used the same app for checking gun laws in the different states when traveling in my RV from coast to coast.

 

[Tall Timbers]

You would be surprised at the number of “smart” gun owners who find themselves in prison because they thought they knew when deadly force can be used.

I'm not smart in that regard, but am fully resolved, and if I ever end up in prison it'll be for doing what I would have done regardless of what the law in the area said. Guess if I ever got locked up I'd be looking at a new ministry...

Similarly, if laws banned sharing the gospel and an opportunity arose where I would normally share the gospel, I would, and would be content to pay whatever price might come.

 

[Andy C]

I'm not smart in that regard, but am fully resolved, and if I ever end up in prison it'll be for doing what I would have done regardless of what the law in the area said.

Dont worry, if you ever make a deadly mistake, and end up in the big house, I can send you a cake with a hacksaw…..

We are military trained and would instinctively know when deadly force is authorized.

 

[Tall Timbers]

Dont worry, if you ever make a deadly mistake, and end up in the big house, I can send you a cake with a hacksaw…..

We are military trained and would instinctively know when deadly force is authorized.

Could you make that an angel food cake with sugar frosting?